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hello. i'm victor blackwell. welcome to cnn newsroom. >> the shooting suspect at an lgbtq club in colorado will face charges. police say he gunned down five people at club q in colorado springs. nearly 30 others were wounded, most by gunfire. the police chief said the shooter used an ar-style rifle and carried a handgun. >> the club owners told "the new york times" surveillance video showed the attacker had tremendous fire power. they said he had six magazines when he entered the club. police say the death toll would have likely been much higher had it not been for two club goers
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who took down the shooter. the mayor said one of them struck him with the gun he had just been firing. a bartender described what he saw. >> i decided i needed to get out of there. i got up and, when i went inside, i saw what i believe was probably the gunman lying on the ground, getting beat up and kicked and yelled at by two very brave people who i still don't know the identity of those two people, but i hope i can find out one day because i truly believe those two people saved my life. >> incredible acts of heroism by those two patrons. nick watt is in colorado springs. nick, the suspect is in the hospital and we're learning new details about him. give us the latest. >> reporter: well, it is key these charges that he's facing because so far investigators have been a little coy about
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whether they were treating this as a hate crime. they were looking at it threw the lens of a hate crime. now we see firve charges of firt degree murder and a bias crime. among the lgbtq community here in colorado springs they've been saying it was a hate crime directed at their community. two law enforcement sources told cnn that this 22-year-old suspect purchased these firearms himself. that is raising questions. why did it not trigger any red flags because he has had previous run-ins with law enforcement? last summer he -- his mother called police to say that this young man was threatening her with a bomb and other weapons. he was arrested by police here. however, he was never formally charged. charges were not pursued.
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that wouldn't necessarily show up on a background check or red flag. officials in colorado are saying we need to use this as a learning moment in terms of how we actually use the red flag laws here. now, as you just heard from that bartender, he was subdued by two people in that club and he was kicked, punched. so the suspect is still in the hospital. charges will be filed once he's been released. by the way, one of those pplwho also in the hospital right now says the police chief. we're waiting for an update on his condition. guys? >> i know you're also learning more about the people killed. what do you know? >> reporter: yeah. victor, five people dead, more than 25 injured. i spoke to some people who left the club just a couple minutes before the shooter went in. they said it was not busy, maybe 30 to 50 people. a lot of those people inside
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were physically injured. we've heard one of the dead daniel ashton who was a bartender at the club. his parents told "the denver post" he recently moved to colorado springs to be near them. within the last hour or two, i spoke via facetime with a man who was in the club sitting near the door with his back facing the door. saw the gunman come in. saw the gunman standing there with another man in front of him. said he saw the man put up his arms and slightly retreat and the gunman killed him. ashton himself was hit seven times, seven times. here's what he told me from his hospital bed. >> i counted the bullet holes. i called my dad. we have a great relationship. i
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i called him. i wanted him -- i wanted him to -- i wanted him to hear my voice and i wanted -- i was shot. i was bleeding out. >> reporter: that is barrett hudson. he thought he was bleeding out. he did not think he was going to make it. that was his first time ever going to club q. he recently moved here to colorado springs. just in the past half hour he sent me a video of him walking, not unaided, he has people helping him. he's up on his feet after being hit seven times within two days of what happened in this club. guys? >> that's miraculous that just after 48 hours he's up on his feet walking with assistance. nick watt, thank you. joining us now is colorado state representative, the first openly transperson elected to the
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legislature. and also council woman, how is your community doing? >> we're angry, grieving, concerning and a tremendous outpouring of love and support. the love and the support is outweighing everything at this point. >> that says a lot given the carnage. congresswoman, nearly 1 in 5 hate crimes are motivated by lgbtq bias. you attribute some of that to lgbtq rhetoric and laws that are being enacted into law. you tweeted when politicians and pundits keep perpetuating
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insults and information about the trans and lgbtq community, this is a result. are you holding fellow lawmakers accountable for this shooting? >> well, it's not just lawmakers, but pundits as well. you know, we keep hearing people on fox news in particular and many of these podcasts just repeating over and over and over again the lies, the tropes and all the misinformation to paint and villainize people who are lgbtq, in particular transpeople. what have we gotten from that? we've gotten hundreds of laws to try to go against the lgbtq community and the trans community and this is in lieu of the fact we had the pulse nightclub shooting a have you years ago. they're still villainizing us and that goes to bullying and gives people permission to feel like they have a license to have
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violence against someone else. that's dangerous and we need to stop that. >> council woman, let me ask you about the red flag laws. there was a june 2021 bomb threat incident in which the charges were dropped. the suspect was arrested. some of the community is suggesting this is an opportunity to readdress how aggressive to be when imposing those red flag restrictions on people. what do you think the lesson is out of this for law enforcement and for community members? >> i think we must look and understand why the red flag laws that we have were not effective in this case and learn more about this case. we need to continue to examine how is it that we keep our communities safe from gun violence. it's a very important conversation for us to have. i would like to actually speak to what brianna just spoke to regarding the tropes and unsafe environment that folks who are trans or lgbtq experience.
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yesterday i spoke with a couple who were just in our city, just bullied off of a bus because they were out and loving each other publicly. that is really unacceptable. yet, i would also say we're doing quite a bit in colorado springs. we have many, many organizations working on this and we need to continue to work on that. >> brianna, we are looking at an increase in the number of mass shootings in that state. if you go back to even 2012 and the aftermath of the aurora movie theater shooting. you've had 61 shootings in that state. that's when four or more people are shot. most of these shootings take place in larger cities, including colorado springs. what are you doing to reassure those in your community, in your
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state that they should -- they're safe? they can go to a restaurant. they can go to a bar and not worry about somebody coming in and shooting them. >> yeah, i mean, it's a great question. you know, this is something we've been pondering for a long time. it even goes further back to the columbine shooting at the high school. you know, we don't know what the answer really is. there's not a perfect answer. you know, we as elected officials started the office of gun violence prevention and it's a new office. we're starting to get information from them about what we can do. we have a lot of guns in this state. we have a broken mental health system in general. we have a shortage of people to help people out. we have all this language that's going on. there's people here in colorado spewing these kinds of things.
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we need to get that to stop. we're not hearing the good things. we're hearing all these bad things about the lgbtq community, but we're not doing a good job lifting up the people doing the good work. as nancy was saying, the work of these organizationis to help th lgbtq community. we need to lift up the positive things and give the general public that the lgbtq community is welcome and they should be in our communities as welcome members. >> council woman? >> i would love to share something positive in that regard, if i might. first of all, the national organization glaad came to colorado springs last night and will be working with the community in advocacy and support. also, the pulse nightclub has offered the section 93 of the sea to sea rainbow flag that has
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been flying in orlando. they've offered it for an undetermined period of time to the city of colorado springs. that will be coming here this week. that flag will be hanging in our city hall and my hope is we'll be having some kind of acknowledgment here at city hall welcoming the owners of the nightclub and the community and show our support as a city of love. love is outwinning hate and we need to continue. we've made so much ground in the last 30 years in this city since amendment ii and we're continuing to gain that ground and we must continue that process. there is positive movement among the fear. >> you have highlighted the positive given the tragedy. thank you so much. i know that visit and the outreach is welcoming there for
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the community. thank you both. joining us now is juliette cayenne and charles ramsay, both led philadelphia and washington, d.c. police forces. chief, let me begin with you. the suspect has been charged with five counts of murder and five counts of bias-motivated crime, essentially hate crime. talk about the significance of that specific charge. >> it's very significant. it sends a very strong message. these are state charges. he still faces possible federal charges as well. you know, they're still in the information and evidence gathering phase of this i would imagine. going through social media, going through evidence they may have seized during the search warrant. they're really building a solid case against this individual that will support all those charges that have been put in place. it's very significant they moved
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forward, especially with the bias hate crime charges. >> juliette, i want to turn to this june 2021 bomb threat during which -- after which the suspect was arrested. i believe we have video from that summer from the incident showing as he came out of the house. there were no weapons found, no explosives found in the home. there's so many questions around this because charges were dropped. the records were sealed. should this have been enough for law enforcement to impose those restrictions allowed under the state's red flag laws? >> it's hard to see this was a violation or there was a mistake made given colorado's red flag laws. i'm assuming the mother refused to press charges. she seems to be the only witness in the original case. all they have is he said/she said. they didn't see a bomb. there was no evidence he had a
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bomb. the question now is why didn't a family member come forward if they had knowledge of the purchase of these guns which we're reporting he did himself? family members may have known about it, especially if his radicalization, his hate toward the lgbtq community was known to them and they knew he had guns. look, this is another instance where red flag laws are often not self-executing. police need specific charges, family members coming forward. they cannot solve the problem of our common responsibility, which is hate is stewing. as we heard the previous speakers and people from colorado say, hate is spewing. guns are not hard to come by, especially in colorado. you just simply cannot have --
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you could not possibly have enough public safety resources to stop this. this requires a lot more. >> chief ramsay, the shooter's mom did not press charges last year. we're reporting she's not cooperating with authorities in this investigation. does that expose a weakness or a vulnerability in the red flag law? >> well, nothing is going to be perfect, but that's not unusual to have a family member not cooperate in a criminal investigation. i'm sure that she was afraid at the time she called police and the police got there and later she thought about it. it's her child and she didn't want to press charges. that's not unusual. i'm not surprised in the least bit she's not cooperating in this particular case. as far as red flag laws, they can only do so much. laws can only do so much. people have to step up. someone knew this guy harbored this much hatred and should not be in possession of a firearm
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and nobody said anything. until we get people to step up and really say, listen, this person is a problem. then you can really take a serious look at them. you'll have these kinds of cases come up periodically unfortunately. >> chief ramsay, juliette, thank you both. we've learned the name of another victim killed inside club q. derrick rump worked at club q. >> he worked at the club with daniel ashton who was also killed. his sister told our affiliate that her brother found a community of people he loved so much and felt he could shine there, and he did. we'll be right back. d to support my family's immune health, i choose airborne. unlike some others,
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was real. wall street caught off guard. disney share prices up around 10% this morning. markets are happy with the fact that bob iger is back. iger himself dismissed this possibility earlier this year. listen to what he said in january. >> cnbc polled ten ceos about their predictions. one was that you would return to disney. >> as what? >> mickey mouse character. there are rumors you could become disney's ceo again. >> that's ridiculous. i was ceo. you can't go home again. i gave my name tag up, my i.d., my office, my email address. it's all gone. if i wanted to run a company, i would still be running disney. i did that. >> now he's doing that again. what changed?
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>> disney was having its worst year since 1974 in the stock market. disney reported disappointing results last month and losses of their streaming service. one analyst told me there was growing concern on wall street about the strategic path that bob chapek had disney on, especially these la ser focus o subscriber growth. this might have been worked when the economy was booming. rates are high and there are all these recession fears. disney wanted to ride out the storm with a trusted hand. doesn't get anymore trusted than bob iger. just because it worked in the past doesn't mean it will work again. he has to get the streaming business on a sustainable path and he has to find somebody to lead the company in the long
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run. he's 71 years old. chapek was his hand-picked successor. >> he has to find a new i.d. as well. interesting. >> and an email address. >> chapek just signed on in the summer. >> in june. now he's out. >> surprising. matt, thank you. president biden pardoned a pair of turkeys today. chocolate and chip. ahead of thanksgiving. >> the two north carolina natives were given presidential reprieve on the white house lawn and will live out their lives at north carolina university in raleigh. jeremy, this pardon comes as the lame duck session is under way. see what i did there? >> turkey and ducks. >> the democrats are hoping to bring a bunch of bills to the
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floor. what can you tell us? >> reporter: there was that light-hearted tradition at the white house. the president is expected to turn his attention to more serious matters over the next month. that's because there's a lot to get done in this lame duck session of congress following the midterms before republicans take over the house in january. at the top of that list is government funding. the current government funding deal expires december 16th. the president and congress have only a few weeks to get done everything in there from more funding for ukraine. the white house has asked for $37 billion. they asked for $10 billion in covid funding. there's expected to be some action on this respect for marriage act, to secure same sex and interracial marriage. a lot to get done over the next few weeks. the president is expected to meet with congressional leaders from both houses of congress in
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the coming weeks. he said he would do so following his foreign trip that he got back from this week. we don't have a scheduled date for that. clearly, that will be a top priority as the president tries to get some bills done here before republicans take over the house and the president's life and legislative agenda expected to get more difficult going forward. >> jeremy diamond, thank you. ukraine is now responding to accusations from russia of war crimes. we are live in kyiv next. new york city's jewish community is on edge yet again after police arrested two men in connection to a threat on a synagogue. the latest on that investigation straight ahead.
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kremlin's spokesperson said russia will do everything possible to search for and punish those it believes are responsible for committing war crimes. moscow says video shows russian soldiers killed after surrendering to ukrainian forces. cnn has located videos to the outskirts of -- a recently liberated village. >> the edited video purports to
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show russian soldiers lying down with their hands over their heads. more soldiers are seen emerging from a building and laying down. a man can be heard yelling come out, one by one. which is the officer? a short outburst of gunfire is heard. a second clip shot from a drone says the same man dead on the ground surrounded by pools of blood. >> we're unable to verify what happened between the clips. we know that the u.n. human rights office is aware of the video and is investigating. russia says it shows a deliberate killing of more than ten immobilize russian servicemen. >> executing prisoners of war is a war crime. ukraine has also accused russia of multiple war crimes,
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including the attacks against civilian infrastructure. let's bring in matthew chance. matthew, ukraine is now responding to russian war crime accusations. what is ukraine saying and has russia commented on it? >> reporter: i mean,s absolutely horrible video to watch. i mean, there's no doubting that. no one is denying that these soldiers were killed. what the ukrainians are sayi is they're rejecting this idea that this was an execution of russian soldiers. this is what the kremlin accuses the ukrainians of carrying out. they're saying the ukrainian soldiers faked a surrender. they're saying that because at the end of the video which has been edited -- at the end of the video you can hear gunshots. that's when the camera goes down and chaos breaks out. you have the video reappear from a drone with those dead bodies.
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the ukrainians are saying faking a surrender itself is a war crime. under those circumstances the ukrainian soldiers had every right to open fire, which is what they did. they make the additional point there wouldn't be any russian soldiers killed in ukraine if russia hadn't invaded the country. this is the ukrainian position, pushing back strongly on allegations that their soldiers on the ground committed war crimes in this instance. >> matthew chance, thank you. for the first time ever, the world laid eyes on kim jong-un's daughter at this weekend's latest missile launch. the girl made her first public appearance friday. these images appear to show kim holding her hand. >> north korea confirmed they launched a new missile last week. the mission sparked outrage from
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in massachusetts this morning. responding units found multiple patients injured inside and outside. >> one doctor treating victims there said several people have life-threatening injuries. that investigation is active and ongoing. here in new york, authorities say federal charges are being considered for the two men accused of threatening a synagogue in manhattan. the two suspects were arrested. bryn jengrass is here with details. >> reporter: let's go back to just really over a week ago, november 12th, we're told this online posting became alarming. they were able to trace them back to a computer used by one of the suspects. i want to read to you one of the tweets that was so alarming. it said gotta ask a priest if i shoulder become a husband or shoot up a synagogue and die.
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there were also postings about a date and time, but not a target of a possible synagogue. sources are telling us there was a frantic effort within law enforcement to try to identify this person and also, of course, find them, which they did. they sent out an alert to law enforcement cell phones called a bolo and two officers that man the subway systems in new york city spotted this person, 21-year-old chris brown, along with a friend of his matthew mayer and they were both arrested. federal charges are a possibility. state charges are there for chris brown, terroristic threats. law enforcement said in their possession was a swastika arm
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an oregon couple may have just given birth to the world's oldest baby. >> this is an incredible story. >> they were born on october 31st after waiting in a frozen embryo lab since 1992. for those of you doing the math, that's 30 years ago. cnn's dr. sanjay gupta talked with the couple who gave birth to these history-making twins. >> president of the united states -- >> reporter: in april of 1992, more than 30 years ago, the world was a lot different. bill clinton was running for
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president. >> thank you. >> reporter: phones looked like this. i was 23 years old, and at a small clinic, these embryos were frozen, suspended in time at nearly 200 degrees below zero, waiting patiently at the national embryo donation center in knoxville, tennessee. that is nuntil just a few weeks ago when twins timothy and lydia were born to rachel and phillip ridgeway of oregon. >> when we heard about embryo adoption, we thought, that's something we would like to do and that's something we think we're able to do. >> adoption refers to living children and it's a judicial order, a legal process by which a parent/child relationship is created when it did not previously exist. >> reporter: dr. segal clipstein is a fertility specialist in chicago and shares this. she was not involved in the ridgeways' case. >> embryo donation is a medical procedure. it's a way by which we take
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embryos from one couple or individual and transfer them into another individual in order to build families. >> reporter: freezing embryos is not a new technique. in fact, the first baby born from a frozen embryo was back in 1984, but at a time when medical science has pushed the boundaries of life earlier and earlier, a new question has arisen. how late is too late? >> going into this process, we wanted to choose children that in our eyes were the most unwanted, the most needy, the ones in a lot of ways that have been overlooked. >> intentionally or not, the ridgeways have set a record. after 29 years and 10 months, the donated embryos are believed to be the oldest embryos ever to result in a live birth. >> we weren't looking to get the oldest embryos to be frozen the longest. >> reporter: nedc is a faith-based center. the center says they have now
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facilitated more than 1,200 births through donated embryos and according to the society of assisted reproductive medicine, the number of donated embryos has steadily climbed from about 1,000 a year in 2013 to about 2,100 in 2020. of which around 40% result in a live birth. >> i hand them a picture and i see the three of them and then he said, so, you know, multiples, you know, can cause problems in pregnancy and he says, so at this point, i would recommend just transferring two. we'll put the third in the freezer. you guys can come back for it, and so i looked back at dr. gordon and started to get teary-eyed and i said, no. you've just shown me a picture of my three children. i have to have them all. >> i didn't think we would get that. i figured it would be that. >> reporter: but during an ultrasound, they discovered they were having twins. >> i don't think there's any risk to freezing embryos that's related to the number of years
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that the embryo is frozen. we have been preserving them for nearly 40 years and there's not been an increased risk to the babies or the pregnant women. what makes the embryo a good quality oftentimes is the age of the woman at the time that she donated eggs and so the younger the woman, the more likely that embryo is going to be normal. >> reporter: for the ridgeways, it's all part of something larger, something they view as a personal mission. >> it's hard to wrap your mind around. i was 5 years old when god gave life to lydia and timothy. in a sense, they're our oldest children even though they're our smallest children. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. >> that's fantastic. >> imagine having that conversation at the kitchen table. let me tell you guys a story about when you were conceived. >> a collaboration from vanilla
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milestone today in its mission to return to the moon. >> the artemis orion capsule passed just about 80 miles above the lunar surface. the agency tweeted this image captured by the capsule's cameras. wow, that's fantastic. >> amazing. >> nasa is describing this as a huge step in its mission to one day put humans back on the moon. cnn's space and defense correspondent kristen fischer joins us. big day for nasa. >> reporter: really big day and probably the most visually stunning of this entire artemis 1 mission aside from the launch of the artemis rocket which was just five days ago. to be very clear, guys, what we're talking about is the orion spacecraft, that little capsule that was sitting on top of that rocket that launched five days ago, and so this morning it made its closest fly by of the moon. you can see it in that video right there approaching the moon in that little blue spot in the bottom of the screen, that, of course, is us. that's earth. so the spacecraft got very close to the moon. on the far side of the moon, it
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lost communications and that is really where the money shot is going to be, and we still don't have it yet, guys. we're waiting for it, but what you are going to see is an up-close view of the moon as the spacecraft flies over it. just 80 miles above the surface. victor and bianna, it also passed right over tranquility base which is where apollo 11 famously landed back in 1969, so we should be getting good images of that as well, but i think the big difference i should point out between apollo 11, the entire apollo program and this, the artemis program is that, you know, when those astronauts landed on tranquility base back in the 1960s and '70s, neil armstrong and buzz aldrin, they were just leaving flags and footprints and took some moon rocks and dust back to earth. now they want to build a base, establish permanent human presence and then someday go onto mars. this is a very different
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