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absence, but also in the case of heroes about how even the darkest moments leave room for light and strength and grace. the news continues, so let's hand it over to casey hunt at cnn tonight. >> john, thank you and we are going to stay with the memory of those five police have identified him -- and release their pictures this evening. daniel ashton, raymond greene pants, -- our deepest condolences to their loved ones. they have also named the two hero is being credited with taking down the gunman and saving so many lives they are thomas james and richard fierro, a u.s. army vet who says that he went into combat mode as bullets were flying. john berman just poke with him, watch. >> i saw the aclu pattern, and for me if there is a handle i'm

getting it. i ran across the room, grab the handle, pulled it down, and then started to -- i think i actually went through his gun. his rifle flew in front of him. the young man who tried to jump in there with me, they pulled him down, but he ended up at his head and right next to the ar. and then with the a r, i told him to get the ar away from him, i do not know what his name was. then i proceeded to take his other weapon and start hitting him where i could. i lost my kids boyfriend, i tried everybody in their. i still feel badly there are five people who did not go home, and this guy, this guy when i was hitting, him i told you i am going to kill you.

one of the performers was walking by when the kid was getting tired of kicking, and he helped and kicked him with the high heels that she had on. i am one of the guys that wanted to protect his kids and his wife. >> wow, what an incredible story. authorities did not release very many new details about the shooting in the updated they gave tonight, but they did mention a tip line that has been set up by the fbi so the public and kelvin under investigation. he's not yet been charged, but he remains hospitalized. online court records show the 22-year-old is facing multiple murder and hate crime charges. but the da of el paso country says the counts are not finalized and are still under review. >> it is important that, if we have enough evidence to support bias motivated crimes, to charge them. it is important for this community. it is important for the prosecution effort.

law enforcement says that aldridge had an ar style weapon and a handgun on him at the scene of the crime. they have encountered this suspect before it. last year after a bond thread. please engage with him after a standoff. cnn has obtained new video of that. >> look at that, they have a beat on me. you see that right there? they've got the rivals out. i'm going to blow it. >> then there is what happened this weekend. we do not know yet, if that is in fact a hate crime or what the motive was, but it certainly comes at a time when heat is on the rise in this country. it has led the president of glaad to say, quote, there is a direct link between the violence committed at our community and the hateful rhetoric's view daily by lgbtq politicians and extremist. there have been a number of

anti-lgbtq bills this year in state houses nationwide. joining me now is national security analyst julie kayyem and political commentators hillary rosen and scott jennings. i want to start with juliette as we set the stage here, you heard the district attorney say that they are still collecting evidence to figure out if this mass shooting can be charged and considered a hate crime. earlier today he said there is already some evidence pointing to that, let's take a look at that and we will talk about it. >> location is some of dense, the fact that these victims were in a specific location that is predominantly frequented by members of the lgbtq communities, that is evidence that we can use towards that decision of motivate crimes. we are looking for a rather evidence as well as that. >> so can you walk us through

what the investigations might look like, and what kind of evidence they will be looking for, especially to charge for a crime? >> yeah, so first of all we do not know if he is not speaking now but he may eventually. whatever he says will be relevant, and of course whatever trail he left and there will be two pieces to this. one will be, did he say anything, do anything with other family members, friends, that would then lead witnesses to testify that he had targeted the bar, or the community. the other of course is online presence. what is online, what caused him to be radicalized? just within a year he is attacking his mother, this is a case that we know about, he is focused on a family issue. within a year, that becomes a mass killing which we have to remind everyone could have been so much worse. over a dozen people have bullet

wounds and they are lucky that they are alive. so what radicalization happen? did it happen online, and who was he following, who is he communicating with? that will capture the picture. i was surprised that he was not charged today. these cases you can start with a hate crime, but i would suspect that they will likely do it in the next day or two if they have evidence that this was targeted because of the kind of bar that it was. it is hard to believe it was not, it's a unique bar, not many lgbtq bars in the community. it is not like he randomly showed up at a bar and decided to shoot the people in it. >> right, of course. you mentioned this earlier, but i am curious how it will affect this. the fact that the suspect is refusing to speak to police, how does this play into this decision not to charge anything? >> so it may be that he might be willing to speak, or that

other members of his family will speak. remember, the mother likely did not charge false file against him when he was violence towards her. she will not speak to the media or law enforcement now, but there might be other family members. we would anticipate that he is not going to speak, he is going to get lawyers and we cannot imagine a narrative coming from him. so really what you are looking for is narratives about his hate towards the lgbtq community. either that he said to other people or his left online. >> so hilary rosen, the reality here whether this is deemed a bias motivated crime, it does not affect the sentencing in colorado so this man is going to face significant jail time no matter what happens. how important is this distinction to the lgbtq+ community that it is recognized as a hate crime. as we know, from a law enforcement perspective, they

are saying they do not have that. but as we all look at this, we understand the people who are targeting here are members of the community? >> well, it is important and it is particularly important in colorado springs because colorado springs is actually a hotbed for many many years of anti lgbtq rhetoric, activity, in the 90s it was one of the first places that created referendums, anti-gay referendums. so there is this history locally. the local republican members of congress have been very vocal against the community, and so i think it feels particularly scary and personal for people in colorado. i do not want to be clear about this. i am a gay and i stand in solidarity with the children in uvalde, the shoppers in the supermarket in buffalo, and the

folks in the movie theater. we have to look at what these mass shootings have in common, the thing they have in common is we not hate. what we have in common is high capacity magazines and guns and the easy access to them. i think that until we actually face that, we are not going to stop this. we do not to mental health resources, but if we do not deal with the capacity to go in and shoot 40 people in the scope of ten minutes, we are never going to solve this problem. >> there is of course the motivation for whoever is committing the attack, and also the means and there are different ways to address those two things. scott, the reality is that the attack happened on the eve of the transgender day of remembrance. while his motive is still under

investigation, we do know that the 2021 was the deadliest rare on record for trans and nonbinary people. there are a lot of people pointing fingers at the political rhetoric on the right. that coming from congresswoman boebert who represents the western half of colorado. what do you say to that? we >> number one, i would like to learn more about this guy's history. i do not know what it says to -- a preferred way through the police. number two, i would like to know more about what happened last year and why he was not held or charged in that incident. it strikes me that the quickest way to have kept him from getting a gun for him to have swallowed under colorado's red flag raw law, which i guess was not possible kathy was not adjudicated for his issue with his mother. third is i don't know i know any republican politicians who have been advocating violence.

they certainly have strong policy differences with democrats on some of these issues, but that is a far cry from advocating violence. violence is wrong, i do not advocate violence -- >> but people we are calling people in the lgbtq community groomers, which insinuates something that could lead people to violence. is that going too far, is that contributing to what we saw? >> we hold on let me let scott answer that, and we will come back to. >> scott cantwell question? >> yeah, look, like i said i do not know any republican politicians who are calling on people to commit violence. and i think it is a pretty far jump. these issues of gum hot button issues in america and i think certainly republican politicians have picked up on, it and some use heated rhetoric, but i still defy you to find a republican member of congress

or anybody else saying let's go commit violence against a particular community. i just do not think that is happening, but beyond that we still do not know everything that we need to know about this guy before those kinds of jobs are made. for me, i am a wait and see on this. violence is wrong, rhetoric should be cool down, but to describe violence to republican politicians who have not called for that is also not. right >> hillary what is your response to that? >> i mean, i agree with scott. i do not think that republican congress people who target legislatively this community are encouraging violence, i just think that you create an atmosphere that makes people feel threatened by people who are different than them, in a way that makes it uncomfortable for them. if you take and combine that with a person who is mentally challenged, who has issues, who

is sociopathic, you are kind of lighting a match and i think that that is the piece that people really have to think through. are we doing everything we can to bring people together instead of making people feel bad about each other? that is the piece that the republicans do not quite take into consideration. i do not want to politicize this horrible murder, but i do think that this conversation is kind of an important one to have overtime. clearly, the access to guns is a particularly horrific tie between all of these mass shootings. >> we've got about 15 seconds, quick last word. >> i agree with hillary, of course about the gun issues, but i want to talk about radicalization very quickly. it does not have to be as we -- asked for by a politician. i think we have askar selves is the rhetoric one in which people would hear and seal that

there is a promise of cultural to attack a target, and then ultimately a very small group to use violence against a class of people who've done no harm who are just loving who they love. so words like groomer, even if the person saying that does not actually think i want this person to kill someone, they know by now, scott, that by using that term it is an insightful term. so to be a responsible politician, it simply -- if you know that that is likely going to be interpreted, stop using it. you can have debates about gay marriage, about education of lgbtq issues, we can do that but name-calling is the thing that becomes an acceptance, in other words there is no shaming of this hate towards the lgbtq community, jewish community, african american community, and it is the shame that i think we can bring back to the dialogue now.

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>> on number of republican presidential possibilities spent the weekend in las vegas. the jewish coalitions annual leadership meeting provide an opportunity for 2024 contenders to try and court the parties big money donors. many of whom have given in the past to the former president, donald trump. we heard this time around, lots of talk about moving forward. someone more willing than others to talk about, to name donald trump. >> trump was saying, that we'd be winning so much that we get

tired of winning. while i'm sick and tired of our party losing. the fact of the matter is, the reason we're losing is because donald trump has put himself before everybody else. >> personality, and celebrity won't get it done. >> we need to look in the mirror. the republican party has lost the popular vote in the last seven out of eight presidential elections. that's saying something. >> okay, i'm joined by margaret -- and former chief of staff the homeland security under trump, miles taylor. there was a lot to work with, margaret, i don't know how many you've covered have been out there several times to cover some of the earlier events on the presidential calendar. you go out there, get big donors, they did seem to reflect a little bit of the change in tuned, the gop's had after the midterm election. -- when everybody thought trump was gonna lose.

>> if there's a sure way to empower donald trump, it's a bunch of candidates dividing up the rest of the boat. the thing that's obviously different this time, is 2016, along reminded donald trump can bring to the equation was what do you have to lose. take a risk out of business. be something different. we know what donald trump presidencies like. but what you're starting to see, is the split stylistically and -- brand wise. among republicans that would like to seek the nomination. there's candidates like ron desantis, that don't need to say donald trump's name. they're in the forefront of this ridiculous early stage. those candidates who have always branded themself as critical of trump or speak outside the box. you've got larry hogan, and the mike pence. -- mike pompeo lane, they served closely to the mic administration. he legitimize him for years at the very end. when they had no choice really

but step away. all that messaging's different. you've got the vicky haley, who had says taking a page from the nancy pelosi playbook. which is pelosi's open the door for people to say, it's time for a new generation. to make an age argument, and across party lines. >> sure, miles, you served in the administration. obviously there was people when you do get elected, i river talking to senior republicans who say, good people got a stick around here. because if they don't, the whole thing will go off the rails. we were all willing to buy that argument early on in the administration, by the end of january six, -- and won't criticize. what do you make of the way, i don't see any of them while they're all saying, okay the party needs something new. they're not going after the man himself. >> yeah, and there's no other way to put it than cowardice. it sounds like a strong word but that same cowardice is what allowed donald trump to rise in the first place. your point about the adults in the room thesis, i was one of the biggest --

thesis that the adults in the room were keeping it in. jack i was objectively wrong about that. why, because it was easy for donald trump is systematically dismantle those guardrails at the same time, if he became president again, i'd be the first to say, we need good people to go into government. but as margaret said, this being a replay. we've seen people -- what's more striking to me. when you play those clips, it's some of those same people wear the same people saying the same things seven years ago. the nikki haley's, mike pompeo when he is a member of the house, was saying the same things to me. you go down that list, they're saying the same thing. and now they're saying it less forcefully than they did. then, remember rick perry called him a cancer on conservatism, then served on his cabinet. >> then there was lindsey graham, remember? >> right now it's say the race as early as it is. it favors donald trump the way that it's constructed. >> paul? >> it's because it's a winner take all system in the republican party.

a plurality politician can do very well. and that's what trump. is trump never -- >> he's got 35% politician. >> within his party, maybe 40. >> -- >> and he can do a lot with that. he never got 50% in the republican party -- 33rd state. new york, home state. it didn't matter. i think people are counting amount are wrong. i think he's formidable, he wants as many opponents as possible. nobody could've been happy. then mr. trump. he divides up the anti trump vote. >> the argument that this early stage you're hearing from everyone from paul ryan, to a lot of people in the room, was the reason why it's time to move past trump for the party, is a matter of winning. because they can't win with him. what i'm not hearing at this stage is the other argument, which is the reason for the party to move away from them. it's to redefine themselves around the rule of law. they're old norms, what are acceptable politics that you

need to support institutions, you can't terry thing down. that's not part of the argument. it might be for tactical reasons, because the base of the party isn't ready here. that but it's an important moment to make that point. i'm not hearing folks make that play. >> if you have national security credibility, mike pompeo, -- or nikki haley, ambassador to the un. why are they talking about the most shameful day a presidents had. >> the materials mls. >> he betrayed our intelligence agencies unendorsed putin. why aren't they saying that. >> i'm sorry some of these people that are gonna be running against trump are the absolute worst people to be running against trump. as you know, they were the people who were -- mike pence, mike pompeo, these are not people that can -- lava hartung creating. >> they try to criticize -- and say, we were saying that when you are working with me every day. stick around, trump's own former vice president has been

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contender on television a lot lately. donald trump's former vice president, mike pence, was out in las vegas. he was noticeably still talks like this about the man who reportedly said he deserved to be hanged. >> i couldn't be more proud of the record of the trump pence administration. >> so, marc short, former vice president chief of staff during this time, thank you for being with us tonight. you heard your former boss, your current confidante of the former vice president close adviser of his. why is he not willing to be more aggressive in confronting somebody, per cassidy hutchinson's testimony, mark meadows said that trump thinks pence deserves it. meaning pence deserves to be hanged.

>> i won't try to excuse anything that happened on january six. in, fact january six was a dividing line. i think it was one and the prize vice president biden advise the presidents for weeks leading up to january 6th, that he didn't have the authority that the president was arguing he should use. casey, i reject the premise your question. even in the town hall that the former vice president did just last cnn last week. he was clear in saying, donald trump was a unique person for our party in 2016. but our party has at this point looking for a different leader. and that's what he believes. but at the same time, he's proud of the record. he's not gonna divorce himself from the record. he's proud of the fact that we actually have 240 new federal judges are courts. judges that stand and confirm the value of life. we did secure the border, we did support israel, the administration did do a lot of things and record tax relief. he's not gonna distant some self from that record. if you look at the quote, specifically, i'm incredibly proud of the pence trump record. >> i take your point on the record.

but when david where pressed him about, hey, do we need somebody do what trump to run. he didn't seem, couldn't say no. he said we have choices. it seems to me, the tone, he could be much more. he knows so much because of the room, he could be talking about his experience in the capital and using that in a way. we will talk about all the other candidates on the stage were shying away from criticizing trump directly. why is pence shying away from. when he frankly has potentially the most harrowing experience of? all >> he specifically said that the president was wrong. he said -- overturn the election. if you read the book, he does -- >> ideally says that in the book. i'm talking about when he's out in public, -- >> he said it multiple times out in public. -- just last week. i don't think he's shy way from. that at the same time, what many of the media wanted to discredit the record as well. and that's not something he will contribute to. he's incredibly proud of the record, of those accomplishments in four years. >> former members of the trump

administration, bill barr, -- are saying that the doj has a case against former president trump. i want to show you what they've said. >> i personally think they've probably have the basis for legitimately indicting the president. >> they still believe they viable potential case. >> you've obviously been called in before. you've worked on various legal arguments against the former president, or been party to these cases. how does the trump indictment potentially impact the former vice presidents plans, and the plans of other 2024 contenders? >> i don't know if it impacts the former vice president's plan at all. to the extent that it impacts others, you need to ask that. i do think that it's interesting development, the special counsel, both parties have abuse special counsels over the last several decades. the fact that this investigation is going on for nearly two years, to suggest

that now you're gonna name a special counsel and say, this is independent from what we've been doing. it doesn't really meet the smell test. >> do you think the special counsel has credibility here? >> no, i don't. as -- republicans have abused it before as well. i think that you go back for the last several decades, -- going through the clinton and ken starr mastication, all the way up until today. special counsel's don't have the same guardrails. they abuse peoples rights. you have an unlimited budget, an unlimited scope of an investigation. i think at this point, if the part of justice has had two years to investigate. this they should be able to make a determination on whether or not there's evidence to move foreign indictment or not. >> do you think that donald trump should face criminal criminal liability for what occurred at the capitol on january six? >> i think donald trump disappointed the american people on that day. he let us all down. he let us down on the weeks leading up to january. six >> but you don't think it's

criminal? >> it's hard for me to say, if you're listening to very terrible advice, that would be a criminal act. i think there's a lot of things he got wrong. i agree. i think entirely disappointed the american people, it was a dereliction of his responsibilities. i don't know what evidence the department of justice has, to say there's an indictment to bring criminal charges. >> what we do need to see. does the vice president, former vice president think he should face? >> he's answered that specifically. and said it's hard to see if you follow really careful advice, that's a criminal activity again, incredible separation. that the vice president said that if i had done something different. i would've violated my -- and therefore i did not. but to the extent that the president should have criminal charges, i dont know what evidence they have. -- i don't know where they're gonna go with. that is >> the people that

provided the advice should they go to jail? and the criminally liable? >> there's no doubt -- provided council that was against the law. it was basically advising to say, here is what the vice president -- >> -- >> the whole group. including john eastman. they clearly were giving advice, mick from a legal counsel perspective that was asking the vice president break is over the -- constitution. >> all right marc short, thank you very much for coming in. i appreciate. it will be talking to you a lot them in the months and years ahead. since we have two before the next presidential election. up, next what happens for the nations politics of twitter collapses. will donald trump's reinstatement matter? and what would the other up and coming campaigns do without their favorite rapid response app. that's next. [interpreter] [interpreter] mm. ...a "chow down" day... - mm. [ chuckles ] - ...a "love my new teeth" day.

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checks given and taken away. and just today, the head of u.s. news partnerships announced he's leaving the company. while mosque, well, this afternoon he tweeted quote, hope all judgy hall monitor stay another platforms, please, i'm begging you. so, that's where we. our twitter with no hall monitors? what will that mean for the social media giant, and frankly for the rest of us. back with me now -- thank you guys for coming back. i want to say twitter is not real life. it's important we recognize

that. underscoring. but it has become this echo chamber for the political media narrative, in a place that campaign spend a lot of time, reporters you can argue spent too much time on twitter. but it's become a source of conversation. all, let me put this to you. i feel like there's some democrats who privately rooting for donald trump to start using the twitter account he received back yesterday. i'm wondering, do you think it matters? does it have an impact? before trump starts tweeting again? >> it's the only social media i've ever been. on its over populated with politicos. -- >> i don't want to ask you how old you are. >> but the very first tweet ever received, seconds after adjoin the platform, and i wrote to me on twitter and said, hey, big gala what you drink roth -- >> that's pretty -- >> that shows a can't take a hint.

mr. trump gets back on it, he undermines's investment, this right week groupies formed. if he doesn't, he loses his platform. i couldn't claire lasts. much less on twitter since mr. must decided it needs more anger and vitriol, and divisive nice. it's been good for my blood pressure. >> there's a lot more spam on their i feel. >> miles, what do you think? >> i take a little bit of a different perspective than paul. i say that i actually think if trump goes back on, it's been extraordinary that he hasn't. i got the alert set up, i'm waiting for at the moment. not that i want to. from four years for waiting of every alert.

i don't think he's gonna be able to resist. he's never resisted a spectacle. i do think it benefits it benefits him enormously from a transactional, he can reach more people, more quickly. we need to wait for these sherpa show us on truth social. none of us want to be on truth social. it gives them some power, at the same time though,, locally replaced the horse and buggy with the car. we were fine, we are better for it, we replace the bank teller for the atm. if twitter goes down and needs to be replaced by something. it will give me, paul, and everyone else a little bit more reprieve from the craziness. it might be time to move on to

some kind of new and better plan. >> -- vine, periscope, all this stuff. facebook isn't what it was ten years ago, all this stuff. having said that, as we lose the ability to have any civil, public discourse about anything. as political polarization and these kinds of silos take root, social media as one of the only town squares. it's a mess stop town square, but it's still -- >> very tempting to use. i'm right there with you. >> town square. i do think, a few days ago, they were all these -- to twitter. if i knew that was gonna be my last we, i would've said whatever. and now it's like, he let trump

back on. which suggests everybody understand it's not gonna blow open goal way. i think we're in a period right now where nobody really knows what's gonna happen. there's two other things that are true, if giving twitter goes away it empowers tiktok, we know that with the problems are with tiktok. it's a real and currently not regulated concern. >> it's a national security disaster. >> by the way which trump was right about. he was flagging of the chinese communist were driving this. i don't know why he didn't act on it, he was probably. right >> so, separate from that concern is the inside twitter concern. which is security, data, privacy, everyone's dms. as long as twitter lasts, as long as everybody on this tables hanging on, some having settlers, others not, that's ripe for breaches right now. i read a really interesting analysis, how elon musk did the same kind of crazy pressure testing at space acts and

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is getting some fans more riled up in the games itself. qatar is the host country for the world cup this year. they say quote, everybody is welcome. it's a great sentiment in theory, except that homosexuality is illegal in the country. punishable by prison time. team usa, along with several other countries have plans to express their support for the lgbtq+ community, by wearing rainbow armbands on the field. but at the last-minute, fifa banned this show of support. threatening anyone who wears the bands with a yellow card. we have a great voice here to weigh. u.s. hall of fame goalkeeper world cup champion in two-time olympic gold medalist brianna scurry. the first openly gay woman on the u.s. soccer team. brianna, thanks for joining us. we're gonna talk about all this stuff we just went through. but the one thing i had trouble

getting my -- draw in the game today. in the men's game. so, what would you took away from the game and what's next for our team? >> it's really unfortunate. 84% of the time within your into first game, you go through your group into the knockout round. i was bummed out about it. but we're still in. it was still. and the play england on friday. there's a tall order there. we still have a chance of getting through. so, tell your family to stay on it. and keep for the team. >> we have a good friend that grew up in england. so, it's gonna split our social cycle. time for thanksgiving. let's turn to what's going on here. honestly, the qatar's position

on this, and enforcement of a. what do you make of that, what should we think about particularly i'm wondering about, the organization that represents countries around the world, and their decision to handle at the. >> what i, with fifa when you pick the country, you pick the consequence. so, years ago when qatar for the world cup, they pick the qatari in rules and regulations, laws. they knew these laws were on -- they chose this. now unfortunately they were hoping it was gonna be a little bit more lax about these type of thing. but clearly. not -- in doha, downtown somewhere arguing with each other about this thing. fifa probably said, we need to show some solidarity, some

understanding of, this instead of this wonderful great idea, one love armband, they decide to do a notice -- which is black and white. a lot more muted support. so, it's unfortunate by fifa makes a lot of mistakes, they have a lot of different things that go sideways, right when the tournament starts. that unfortunate ruins the football. they're doing it again. >> how would you feel, you've played in for world cup tournaments, as someone who is openly. would you feel comfortable playing in the world cup? there >> i would. it i wouldn't feel comfortable at all. we're talking about jail time potentially for being myself. for being who i am. it's very disheartening, alarming, but like i said, unfortunate fifa makes the decision that a lot of times put players in compromising positions. and it's really unfortunate. but the good news is, i will say, this topics getting a lot of press. it's getting a lot of coverage, a lot of conversation. and that's actually backfiring

the phrase a fifa and tara. >>, this quote stood out to a lot of people. there's a double standard, he said quote, what we europeans have been doing for the past 3000 year, we should be apologizing for the next 3000 years. before we start giving moral lessons to people. i think he's trying to make a point about colonialism there. what's your response to that? >> my first response was, what. and then my second response was, i think he's talking about colonization. that's jazz, it's a little absurd. because he had an opportunity to make a difference today, with the situation had fallen on the side of allowing these players to make a stand. and to use their platforms to bring more awareness, solidarity, in support to people all over the country all over the world. he blew a. so, now we want to see this other statement about what we should've done this, this and unfortunately he had his moment where he could've made a difference and he chose not to. >> what's that about, is it

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