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watching. our coverage continues now with allis allison camerota. happy thanksgiving. you too. good evening, everyone. this is "cnn tonight." i'm alison cam rata. sources say former vice president mike pence may be open to telling prosecutors what he knows about donald trump's efforts to stop the peaceful transfer of power on january 6th. tonight we have more on what he might tell them. plus it's been a horrible ten days of mas shootings in the u.s. from the murder of three uva students to what happened at club q in colorado springs, and then last night six people were shot and killed in a wal-mart in chesapeake, virginia. four people are still in the hospital tonight from that event. is there any way out of this awful cycle that seems to be one of our national pastimes? other countries don't endure this hell. what is the answer to ending mass shootings and this gun violence epidemic? we have a lot of people with us
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tonight that have ideas that go way beyond thoughts and prayers. lert, so we have a lot to talk about. let's begin with the justice department seeking testimony from former vice president mike pence, cnn's senior crime and justice report katelyn polance has been working this story for us. so what's the latest tonight? >> well, alisyn, the justice department approached mike pence's team weeks ago wanting to talk to them of their probe into january 6th and the moments after the election obviously they're looking into donald trump, the white house, everything going on there to try and disrupt potentially congress from certifying the presidency and from allowing joe biden to become president. in this situation our reporting is that mike pence is open to discussing a possible arrangement with the justice department where he could provide testimony, so he would be a witness in this sort of situation. and we know throughout these past couple of weeks, alison,
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the just department has been carving out information around trump and pence. they've been looking around conversations the two would have had. we know they would have brought in the two deputies into the grand jury. they brought them back a second time into the grand jury in recent weeks then because they had declined to answer some -- some very, very deep questions into the heart of the oval office. now they're sharing them. and so now the question is will pence also fill in whatever blanks are left, will he choose to speak? and also how aggressive will the new special prosecutor, special counsel jack smith be in wanting to move this forward and potentially have more negotiations with the pence team. >> so kaitlyn, of course you remember that vice president pence had closed the door to testifying before the january 6th committee. he said this in our cnn town hall last week. >> congress has no right to my testimony. the very notion of a committee on congress -- in congress
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summoning a vice president to speak about deliberations that took place at the white house i think would violate that separation of powers. >> kaitlan, clearly he sees the department of justice differently, in a different category. >> yeah, alison, he said no to congress, but mike pence is out there sharing things that he had never shared before this year. so he just released a book, and in that book one of the things he writes about are direct conversations he had with donald trump in that crucial period early january 2021, and he basically says he's telling trump it's not going to work, you can't use me to block your loss in the election, and trump tells him things like if you wimp out you're just another somebody. he also writes trump said you'll go down as a wimp, so that word wimp, wimp over and over, trump is saying these things directly to pence. there wouldn't have been other witnesses of that, but pence is disclosing that in his book. that's the sort of thing that could get the justice department
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interested in them, and the justice department has a lot of power in a criminal probe like this. they have used precedence, former precedence in the past to testify for investigations. they have no bounds around them to use people like pence as a witness. they might have to go through a process to get executive privilege wiped away in court, but really they have been in a situation where even former president ronald reagan after he left office testified about things that were going on inside his administration in the iran contra affair. so we are in an area where we just don't know what's going to happen here. but if pence wants to talk he probably will be able to. alison? >> and that's just one of the things he said in his new book. we'll read more of the passages as well. kaitlan, thank you very much. we have cnn political commentator errol lewis tonight, joey jackson and scott jennings.
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legally this is in a different category, right? the department of justice is in a different category that the january 6th house committee. does mike pence have to answer doj prosecutors? >> he could stall it. he could prevent it. i think there will come a time where he will answer questions, so let's talk about the distinction. when you have a house committee of course congress has oversight responsibility and they're investigating for that purpose. we're talking about the department of justice we're talking about a department involved in criminality. when you're doing that the only effective way not to testify is assert some privilege or give an indication you shouldn't testify. i don't think the privilege -- i don't think he's looking to assert privilege. i don't think it necessarily applies here and i think there will come a time he does speak. i think there's reasons to negotiate his testimony. the justice department always wants a motivated witness, a calm witness, a cooperative witness, a witness who was there
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not having any belief that they are and he's not the subject, the target of any investigation. i think it allows them to be more forthcoming and by the way there's a little wrinkle here. there's an election coming up upon which him and the president, the former president may be at opposite sides. so he may be very motivated to tell the stories what happened not to mention the book you talked about "so help me god" which he has many excerpts of conversations between him, the president, and other parties who were there. >> scott, i want to read a portion of that book because i know at times we can think we've all heard everything mike pence has to say about january 6th. not exactly. in his book there's some new stuff. here's what he writes about. he said on january 5th i got an urgent call that the president was asking to see me in the oval office. the president's lawyers including mr. eastman were now requesting i simply reject the electors. i later learned mr. eastman had
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conceded to my general counsel that rejecting electoral votes was a bad idea and any attempt to do so would be quickly overturned by a unanimous supreme court. this guy didn't even believe what he was telling the president, so it sounds like there is some new stuff that he could offer. >> yeah, i think he should talk to the department of justice in this criminal investigation. i think he had a pretty good argument on not going to congress. i do think the separation of powers is something that ought to be taken seriously, but the main thrust of what we're going to get out of january 6th strikes me as coming from this department of justice investigation of who broke what laws, and so i think mike pence should do it. and sounds like he's got -- >> scott froze for a second. erroll, you can pick up where he left off. >> he may not want to but i think the handwriting is on the wall. you can't take millions of dollars -- what was probably millions of dollars for a book advance and start dishing all these breathless information about conversations in the oval
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office and try to assert a priv lnl that's it's confidential and he doesn't need to talk about it. just as you said former president testified when he was asked and sitting president bill clinton let's go back to 1988, the whole testimony, the whole 4 hours and 16 minutes is online. you can watch it to this day. where he was subpoenaed. he appeared before the special counsel before the department of justice and said a lot of embarrassing things about conversations and actions that went on between him and monica lewinsky and others in the white house. mike pence i think joey is right, you want him to be in a good mood. this is the first part of the investigation but in the end he's going have to testify. >> i know it can be hard to keep up with all the various cases donald trump is involved in. but let's break it down to this week and here is what has happened, joe ach am a new york judge has scheduled a trial date for the trump organization and
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the supreme court did clear the way for the house committee to get donald trump's taxes after he'd tried to block from for years. an appeals court had been skeptical of donald trump's arguments what he was doing with all those classified documents at mar-a-lago. and senator lindsey graham has testified about trying to overturn the election results in georgia. that's just -- we're not done with this week yet, joey. so that's what's happened. does it feel to you like things are ramping up? >> i think so. this is a legal process at work. you're entitled certainly to push back as the president does, very lutititigious, litigating going back to mark short. and trying to block that testimony. this is the way the process
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works. and i think ultimately if you do things allegedly not so good, if you have documents potentially you should not have had, there's accountability factor. so i think some -- at some point in time you've heard the expression the chickens come home to roost, right? you reap what you sow, all the things you can say i think the reckoning time is here. and whether you run for president that does not act a bar to investigations to potential indictments and of course prosecutions. so that's not going to help or -- can stall it but it's not going to prevent the inevitable. >> scott, how do you see it? do you think things are ramping up in. >> well, he's got a lot going on. he's carrying a lot of heavy bags. and i think if you're a republican voter and trying to sort this out whether we want to go through this a third time this is going to weigh on the minds of a lot of people. national polling that indicated donald trump's favorability with republicans had dropped.
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ron desantis was on the rise. it appears to me that republican voters are finally catching up to all this and deciding maybe they've had enough and maybe the bags are too heavy to carry and too risky to roll the dice on for another run for the white house. certainly doesn't help as you're kicking off your presidential campaign. >> right, okay gentlemen thank you very frucmuch for that perspective. it's not a matter of if there'll be another mass shooting but when. that's what we've learned. in the wake of the mass shooting at wal-mart that happened just last night the question is what are we going to do to stop this epidememic?
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eyewitnesses describe the chaos inside a wal-mart in chesapeake, virginia, last night whether a 31-year-old shooter who was a team leader for the store's overnight shift opened fire and killed six people inwounded four others in the latest mass shooting. how do we get out of this awful deadly cycle in our country? here with me is errol lewis, also cnn contributor jennifer masia, kathy trout, and cnn political commentator scott
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jennings. nice to have all of you, and we need solutions. obviously we're way past the time of thoughts and prayers. what's interesting is virginia has relatively strong gun laws. i'll put up what they did in 2020. this was a democratically state led ledggislature. they passed universal background checks. there's a reporting requirement for a lost or stolen gun, a limit of one handgun purchased per month. for most people that seems like it should be enough, and then they have red flag laws. so explain how it is possible that someone who was clearly exhibiting some unhinged behavior was able to have this? >> it doesn't go deep. we see other countries are able to avoid this gun violence because they do a lot of gun vetting before the point of purchase. right now you can -- guns are
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extremely easy to access because our gun laws are built with holes in them. our federal system does not cover private transactions, which means that you can sell a gun to a friend at a yard sale. and most states are like this. so virginia can have very strong gun laws. but if there are weak gun laws in neighboring states it undermines all that progress. >> catherine, that is exactly the point i have asked about so many times when we're reporting on these awful mass shootings. why can't there be more questions asked at the point of purchase, some sort of screening done to weed out people who -- this guy last night the shooter he was described by all his coworkers as gruff, mean, condescending, made threats. he was paranoid about the government. he talked about it all the time. he threatened what he would do, there would be retaliation if he was ever fired. i mean is there no kind of screening or questions that could be asked by gun sellers? it's not a law that you have to
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sell a gun to anyone who asks. why can't we do a better job of this? >> well, i think you make -- part of it is you made a good point. they can refuse any sale, and i know that gun sellers do. ffls do refuse sales, and i talked to several who said he didn't seem right, i don't know what he was talking about. so i know they can. but the limitations are just that. you're talking about people who their business is to sell guns and there is not any state or federal regulation like they have in a lot of other countries where you have to have witnesses, neighbors, they talk to the neighbors. you have to have people who vouch for you, who write letters. some of the other countries are setup that way. we just don't have any standards like that in the united states. it's a little late, you know, 400 million guns in to start thinking about those kinds of standards for gun sales. >> i hear you but we have to do something. obviously we're in this cycle. we have to do something because nothing isn't working. and hold that thought for one
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second, catherine, because i want to ask scott about this. governor youngkin of virginia said basically, which we hear a lot, now's not the time to talk about, you know -- he didn't say now's not the time to talk about solutions but he basically said that. let me play what he said this morning. >> this is a horrendous event, a horrendous senseless act of violence and today we have to come around families and support them. there will be time for us to react and better understand. we will have once the facts and circumstances are well-understood an opportunity to take actions. today we must stay focused on families. >> scott, unfortunately he's wrong. we will not have any time to better understand or take actions because if -- at our current rate there'll be another mass shooting tomorrow. >> well, i think he's making a
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pretty valid point, which is we don't know all the circumstances that went into what happened to this particular guy, and i think before you start prescribing solutions to solve a particular matter, you know, however this guy came to get his gun and however he came to make the decision to shoot-up his coworkers you want to know all the facts before saying we have to do this or do that. look what happened in colorado. what we thought we knew about the shooter changed over 48 hours. >> like what? what changed in colorado. >> if you want to answer the question you should get all the facts before you -- >> hole on one second. first of all, we've covered -- i mean i don't know, i can't count how many i've covered of these. so they do sometimes fit a pattern, and there does seem to be a deranged sort of unhinged, staple personality type in mass
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shootings, but what changed in colorado? >> what was being said about the shooter's motivations in colorado changed after a couple day peerldriod after his said s things about the way he self-identifies. >> so you believe that mass shooter, you believe his lawyer and him? >> i mean, alisyn, i don't know. it's his lawyer. he's argued we didn't know anything and everybody was making arguments and his lawyer goes to court and says something that changes the narrative. all i'm saying in the case of this wal-mart shooting we didn't know anything about this guy. if i'm governor youngkin i'm not going to go out and start proposing solutions to things when i really don't have the facts. wouldn't it be prudent to let the breathe? >> i don't know, scott, because it wasn't just he was weird. he was paranoid and making threats and acting in this way we often see unhinged paranoid
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people behaving. and they all knew it. they'd seen it for years. it wasn't new. >> let me add some facts to this. this was a workplace killing. on average more than one person dies in a workplace killing every single day, and that includes -- the number is over 390 for the last year for which there's federal data. you know, this year alone, by the way, and the only reason -- look, the only reason we're covering this wal-mart case is because it came so close to the other mass killing. but there have been workplace killings this year in wisconsin, in ohio, in michigan, in maryland, in tennessee, on and on and on. it happens all the time. and other than in local markets it doesn't even get reported. that's how entrenched it is in our culture. so you want to talk about who has responsibility here, there's the gun sellers. yeah, there's the governor. there's also wal-mart, there's the workplace. you know, the employees who went to work had the right to expect a safe workplace. not somebody who's a supervisor
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who's muttering to himself, exhibiting deranged behavior, and then took their lives. and the occupational safety and health administration part of the labor department, where's marty walsh, where's the white house, what are they going to do about this? i've been writing about this for years. this has been going on for years. it's an absolute epidemic. there are measures that can be taken but not if we don't collect the data, talk about the data. the secretary of labor needs to step forward today right now perhaps before the end of the week and say what he is prepared to do. there was some talk about violence being directed at hospital workers. that's a particular workplace where there was a lot of workplace violence during and after the pandemic, but there were a lot of other places as well. and we as a country have to really sort of isolate this piece of the crisis and make sure that employers are living up to their responsibility and the federal government that overseas those employers are living up to its responsibility as well. >> i knew you guys would be the
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perfect panel to talk about this because we are going to come back and talk about what each of you thinks is the one suggestion for a solution to break out of this because this year could mark the second highest year of mass shootings on record in the u.s. so, again, we're going to talk about solutions at the national level. we'll be right back.
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we're approaching the ten-year anniversary of the murder of 20 children and six adults at sandy hook elementary school and the mass shooting epidemic has only accelerated since then. joining us now is nicole. her son was killed at sandy hook
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and since then she has tackled gun violence virtually ever day. she's now the managing director of sandy hook promise. i always appreciate talking to you even though it's often in these horrible circumstances. i know you were listening to our conversation about what happened at that wal-mart last night. what aren't we getting? what are we missing? >> honestly i was listening in. it was a very infuriating conversation to listen to because i'm seeing a lot of deflection rather than dealing with the problem at hand. we have an epidemic and it's not just about workplace violence. it's about church violence. it's about nightclub violence, about school violence. it's everywhere. we have over 600 mass shootings alone this year. that's over two a day. there isn't time to wait for people to get over it. there isn't time to wait for to just let's worry about the families first and we'll think about solutions later because tomorrow it's someone else's family. and if we're not taking action today, then we're not doing anything to prevent the violence
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tomorrow. we're just waiting for it to happen to us next, and that's not a place any of us want to be in. i'm kind of a little angry tonight, and i'm not normally. i'm just very dissatisfied with the lack of accountability and desire to take strong actions to deal with a problem in a way that we can protect constitutional rights and save livesch the solutions are in front of us. we just have to stop fighting and work on getting them passed. >> nicole, you are entitled to your frustration and anger i think all of us feel and you just articulate it better. i think your tweet this morning you sent out at 7:00 a.m., i think spoke for all of us. you said again waking up to news of another mass shooting this week, but still there are people who won't acknowledge the problem or accept the solutions. instead cue thoughts and prayers, about some effing action instead. so what is the solution, what is the action, nicole, you'd like to see people take? >> i hate to see this pun buzz
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there's no silver bullet. there's no one solution that's going tosolve this. there are legislative solutions such as strengthening implementation of extremist protection orders. there's federal funding right now for states to apply for to either implement or strengthen their implementations. awareness and education are crit cri critical for these laws to work well. other laws like background checks, limits on high capacity magazines and semiautomatic weapons these are important. they're not restricting someone but keeping people safe. and then there's a lot of community work we can do. strengthening the bonds within communities, learning the signs, recognizing the signs of someone who is in crisis or could be at risk of hurting themselves or someone else and taking action to get that person help, not thinking it's someone else's problem, someone else will take care of it but being that upstander and knowing that's something kids can do, adults can do, something we can all do to help create safer futures. >> that's such a great point because so often after these
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things there is a pattern. you heard me arguing a bit with scott there. and scott will be back in a moment with us, but there's a pattern. after we've covered this i mean probably at least 50 times you see there actually are signs and we have to be able to be proactive instead of reactive. i know you were involved in the bipartisan gun safety law that was passed. here just to remind people it enhances the review process for those under 21, incentivizes state red flag laws, increases the funding for mental health programs and school security. that's something governor youngkin talked about today. it closes the boyfriend loophole, requires more gun sellers to register as federally licensed firearms dealers. i know it didn't go as far as you wanted it to, but can it count down on mass shootings? >> it can. if the federal money is used, if
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the laws are strengthened, if schools are using these violence prevention programs, there's so much funding available. there's no excuse not to do it other than our own will or political will that might get in the way of us taking action. so it's there in front of us for taking and creating something good from. you just have to lean-in and do it. it's going to take, yes, and that is inkredsably frustrating with the amount of violence we have right now. but if we don't take those steps now all we're doing is allowing the violence to continue until we suddenly decide we're ready because it's happened to us. >> nicole, you're wonderful. i always appreciate your voice and talking to you. thanks so much for taking time for us tonight. >> thank you. >> i want to bring back errol lewis, jennifer, catherine, and scott jennings. carroll, you were listening there i know very closely. what's the solution? what's the one thing that we should do that we can do that would stop this? >> i'll go back to what i mentioned before. i think you have to get the private sector involved.
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they're not just the site of killings and it's all up to the rest of us to figure out who should be hired and allowed to supervise at wal-mart. it is the responsibility of wal-mart. they've got to do better. if they don't have the tools to screen employees, they should figure out how to screen employees. there are data scientists out there who can help them figure out how to do this. they can praeb crmaybe create sl legislation for us. by the way in addition to bringing in the private sector we're going to have a general election in a couple years of which upwards of 150 million people are going to cast a vote. the political will is expressed at the ballot box. now is the time not later to try and do whatever is necessary, whatever is possible to reduce the -- some of the best possible actions to a couple of propositions and then make sure that it is on the ballot at
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every office from the county commission all the way up to the president of the united states, and then we can really sort of put it to a vote and see if we can actually force some action on this. >> scott, your solution. >> i'll give you two. i think we ought to put violent criminals in jail and keep them there. and i think we ought to strengthen nuclear families in this country. i think one of the strands that goes through a lot of these shooters is absolute lack of a solid upbringing. they've broken homes. they've been taught terrible lessons in their lives, and they end up in violent outcomes. and those are my two. >> okay, catherine, you have written a book saying that there's an end -- there's a way to end mass shootings. what is your solution? >> stop dumping all gun violence into one bucket and thinking there's one solution. the workplace violence is one situation. mass killings that occur where somebody runs out at the last minute and buys a gun is another problem. strengthen the funding and make
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sure that we get a strong atf so they look for strong buy, develop those systems so we don't have to chase after the minute number of people who are committing the kind of terror that we're seeing so that people who have guns and are confident that they can be responsible gun owners don't feel like somebody's running after them to take their guns away. and my second thing would be make sure that you get mad -- everybody should be mad about this, as mad as nicole is, as mad as i am, you should be so mad you should be going, you know, through your kids drawers and your husband's trunk in his car. there's no democracy in a household. the people who make the -- who do the leaking, had make their statements and they do leak 95% of the time, say actual words to people saying they're going to do things just like we were just talking about. but people don't respond and think they're serious about it. get mad, be serious about abit.
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>> a great suggestionmism go ahead, jennifer. >> well, you know, 80% of homicides are perpetrated with guns. at the end of the day guns are the common denominator. there would be no gun violence without guns we see because we see other countries don't have this type of violence. and the way you cut down this violence the data shows is by properly vetting gun owners, requiring training. it's a level of scrutiny that americans are not used to. and it's kind of shocking but we see that other countries have successfully done it because they don't have this every week. you know, in between colorado springs and chesapeake, there were 418 people shot in america. 160 of them fatally. that's every day gun violence. >> that's a remarkable number and so you're talking basically the last ten days. >> actually, no, that was the last three days. between colorado springs and chesapeake there were 418 people shot in america, not mass shootings. that's interpersonal violence. when guns are around and
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conflict happens, people reach for them. and vetting gun owners before the point of purchase, data shows, does cut down guns. now only seven states have gun owner licensing programs. that is something we're going to see big state divides. you're going to have california and new york with super strong gun laws and lower gun death, but then you have 25 other states that will not require permits to carry a gun in public or training. >> i mean and of course borders are porous. even if you have a state with strong gun laws or requires this kind of background checking for licensing if you're next to a state that doesn't, it's different. thank you all very much. i really appreciate this conversation. thank you all for thinking of solutions. it's the only thing left to do after we report on something like this so frequently. i really appreciate your perspectives. okay, on a lighter note the u.s. mens national team set to take the world cup stage against england on friday and could be a match just as dramatic as the
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okay, millions of americans will be chrisscrossing the country for thanksgiving and of course the weather will be a damper. so we've got your holiday forecast. >> we've got lots to be thankful for. considering 55 million americans are on the move, if you're talking about atlanta, jackson international airport the hartsfield-jackson international airport they're expecting 2.5 million people to move through the airport just through the course of this week. we've got lots to be thankful, though, and that includes a very
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decent forecast along the i-95 corridor with the exception of just high volume delays. i think we're setting up pretty nicely today, but things are going to get interesting across the nation and midsection as we go forward in time. and i'll talk about that in just one moment because we've got some very, very messy weather going to start developing. a lot of people tuning into the macy's day thanksgiving day parade. you can't beat this forecast if you're in new york city temperatures in the 40s and calm winds good news for people holding the balloons. so this parade will go on without any hindrance from the weather at least. this is the storm system going to bring us wet weather going forward into the rest of the weekend and could cause travel delays especially as you head home by saturday and sunday from visiting family and friends. we have winter weather advisories and winter storm watches in place for the texas panhandle, and you can see some of the snow already forming across the northern rockies, but this is the wet weather that could cause delays dallas into
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houston and get a lot of that gulf of mexico moisture going forward. time this out for you. thursday being thanksgiving day the wet weather starting to develop, but friday things are going to get messy across the deep south, the southeast, anticipating 12502 inch of rain south of atlanta as the system moves through and you can see this forecast accumulation going forward. things are looking a bit on the wet side. there's a snowfall for new mexico and the texas panhandle, really kind of a wet looking forecast for this area again for the second half of the weekend. but in terms of today getting out the door i should say thursday, thanksgiving day forecast looking pretty decent but sunday a whole other story and anticipating travel delays for d.c. as well as new york city and you could see another storm system developing across the northwest. >> is your advice everyone should travel tonight or tomorrow for thanksgiving and then get out of there before sunday? >> great question. and, yes, you hit -- perfectly
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that's exactly what i would advise. get out the door today. perhaps early in the morning on thursday because the weather will be most tranquil on thursday but as you wind out the weekend you need to get home quicker than anticipated. that's when i anticipate the travel delays as people head home from grandma and grandpa's house they'll be hitting some of these major airports across the eastern sea board and could see moderate travel delays that could slow you down. >> we will heed your advice. thank you very much. >> thanks, alisyn. >> okay, we'll be right back. in facact, subaru is the largest corporate donor to the aspca... ...and the national park foundation. and the largest automotive donor to meals on wheels... ...and make-a-wish. get a new subaru during the share the love event and subaru and our retailers will donate three hundred
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, with us now are can and -- acosta, and there's a long delay so everybody be patient for this conversation. because we hope technology will help us. great to see you guys. tonight. and your son made this incredible play in the game, people call it the world cup saving foul. basically, he, you know, fouled his his friend, but also a competitor. and everybody says that he safety game. tell us what that moment was like. >> that was actually pretty amazing. i was wondering if you are going to mention the foul, he had to have it. he had to take it. you know, he does play with the other player, you don't hurt anybody. but we needed it to save us. he took him out. >> he was playing for the usa,
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it could've been a goal. great play. >> back domestically, he plays with gareth bale. but i'm guessing all bets are off when you're in the world cup? >> oh, most definitely. >> and so, what is it been like for you guys, sorry that the delay is making me interrupt you guys, what's it been like to watching this, and what's the mood, by the way, in qatar? we've heard about the controversies, what's the atmosphere there? >> well, it's been great here. beautiful city. we've got a lot of family oriented things with the u.s. team. it's been fun, they make sure that everything is taken care of, everything is handled. they tell us where to be, it's perfect, we have all these activities. a lot going on here. it's been a great, great experience. >> and the fan base is great
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to. we got into it before the game, after the game. it's been great so far. >> that's wonderful to hear. it's been wonderful to watch, and great to chew your son on, he saved the world cup, basically. for the u.s.. so, congratulate him and we'll be watching him on friday. thanks so much, guys, for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> okay, so, the holiday season is here, of course, and with it, comes the traditions that make it special including all those holiday movies and tv shows that we love to watch. so, this year cnn is bringing us a unique look at our favorites, the new cnn original series, special event,'tis the season. the holidays on screen on wraps the most memorable and festive moments of holiday classics new and old. and explores why these stories continue to delight audiences. here's a preview. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ christmas music -- movies and television specials
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