it's been an awful ten days in the u.s. for mass shootings. i know it's hard to think about this every day and every night. but we do have a list to show you that really drives home what we're talking about. in less than a week, there have been eight mass shootings in america. innocent people killed in everyone, lives ruined. family members in mourning. virtually forever. more than 600 mass shootings in the united states so far just this year. this is part of an epidemic that america cannot seem to self. but we are talking about solutions tonight, but first let's talk about the latest. we want to go to cnn's dianne gallagher, she's live for us in chesapeake, virginia. we also have cnn's -- it was in colorado springs for us. diane, tell us what you've learned about the six people who were killed last night? >> that's right, alison. this was just a little bit more

than 24 hours ago, at the walmart that you see behind me. those six lives were stolen by a gunman at their workplace. the victims range in age from 16 to 70 years old, and according to walmart, they all worked for the company. -- brian pendleton, -- and a 16-year-old male who the city says they are not releasing his name or his photo, because he is a minor. and look, that's not counting the wounded who went to the hospital and the emotional damages, the trauma for the survivors of this week. we've spoken to many of them over the past 24 hours. what they saw, the images they can't get out of their heads. like with this young woman experienced on her just her fifth day working at this walmart. take a listen. >> i was out underneath of the table and i was shaking.

i probably look like a chihuahua at that point. he had the gun up to my forehead. it was just really hard. he told me to go home. and he took the gun away from my forehead and he was aiming it at the ceiling, he said, go home. >> it's just awful. just awful to hear about that. tell us what we do know about this shooter, because what i've read, it sounds like he was really exhibiting lots of signs that were worrisome to his coworkers. >> so, alison, i think in retrospect perhaps, but when i talked to the people here about 31-year-old andre bing who was according to walmart, the overnight team lead, kind of a

supervisor position. but when i talk to the employees, they referred to him like a manager here. they saw him, he'd work for a moment since 2010. he was a longtime employee. look, they talked about him being difficult to work with, some of them described him as having odd or even threatening interactions. they said that he seemed to relish in the position that he had, that power that he had. over them. it was something that he seemed to enjoy kind of throwing around, they called him sometimes mean or condescending. but every person with whom i spoke with said that in no way, shape or form did they ever think that he was the type of person who had come in and do this. did they ever think that it was going to result in a mass shooting? they described him as paranoid, afraid that the government was watching or controlling him. they didn't like to be recorded by cell phones. there's himself phone footage that a former coworker of his head from back in 2016, she notes that when he realizes he's being recorded, he tries

to move out of the scene. they described him as strange, difficult to work with, alone or even. but alison, every person, even those who watch this happen, say that they are absolutely shell-shocked. that he came in there and did what police say that he did with a handgun. and several magazines they say that he was armed with, they are still trying to determine a motive here, and look, i can tell people here in chesapeake are still trying to gather their thoughts and figure out what they're going to do. this is thanksgiving eve, it's usually a very busy day at places like walmart. it's been closed. these employees don't know what to do. these survivors don't know what to do, these families are trying to figure how to go with their lives now. >> of course, understood, even when somebody acts that strangely it is unimaginable. what he did. so, nick, do you, the suspect in the colorado shooting appeared in court for the first

time today. tell us about that. >> yeah, alison, before i talk about that person, i want to talk about a little bit of resilience and positivity here. club q where the shooting took place, they always hold a thanksgiving lunch because that club was a real community hub in the small city for the small lgbtq community. they are going to have thanksgiving dinner tomorrow but at a different location, because their club is a crime scene. the alleged shooter is in that jail behind me, for this thanksgiving. and possibly many more. as you mentioned, first appearance in court today. said very little. set the whole time, slumped, orange jumpsuit. bruises all over the forehead and face, because remember, this shooter was taken down during the rampage. and a young naval officer and a trans woman kicked this suspect repeatedly in the head to stop him creating or causing any more havoc. i think we've got a little bit

of video that we can show you of this slurring, short appearance. take a look. >> the defendant please state his name? >> -- >> anderson aldrich, did you watch the video considering your constitutional rights in this case? >> i did. >> do you have any questions about those right? >> no. >> and that was it from the suspect, the defendant the lawyers that had a conversation with the judge about the next appearance, scheduled right now for december 6th, so nearly two weeks away. that's when we expect to get an official charge. right now, there are charges on the arrest warrant, five counts of first-degree murder, and

five bias related crimes. one little note here that i know you've been talking about, the lawyers for this defendant say that the defendant identifies as nine binary. you'll notice the judge did not use they them pronouns in that hearing. you know, we also spoke today with a neighbor of the suspect, and a good friend of the suspect, they bonded over video games, played four hours together. and this young man xavier -- told me that he had never once heard the suspect ever mention anything about being nine binary in the past. alison? >> yes, i think you're asking all the right questions nick and i appreciate that, because some people expressed skepticism as whether it's a ploy, we'll find out more about that. diane, nick, thank you both. i want to bring in democratic state senator -- louise lucas. senator, thanks so much for being here. we're so sorry about what's happening in virginia and in your district and what everybody there has had to endure. what's the answer?

what's the answer to stopping things like what happened at walmart? >> you know, i've said several times over the last 24 hours, the only thing that's going to stop gun violence is legislators coming up with common sense that gun violence prevention programs that's going to bring all this to a stop. the first thing that i thought needed to happen is for us to develop a critical mass of people around this issue. so that they can start impressing upon the legislators they need to do this, because people are just so tired of these mass shootings. as a matter of fact, i took it upon myself to go out to three different shopping malls today. just to get a sense of what people were feeling and what they were thinking. first, they were in shock, because first of all, they couldn't believe that they had hit this close to home. and then the next thing is, now, today, people are feeling grief and afraid and wondering, who's

next mass shooter? is it someone near them? is it someone they know? and so now, people are just afraid to even be out in public places. because they never know where the next mass shooting is going to occur. i say again and again and again. the only thing that's going to bring us to a point that we're going to bring an end to this mass shooting is to do like other countries are doing and get these guns out of the hands of people who do not need to have them. >> state senator, do you think that you have willing partners in virginia to do this? and i'm asking because when we heard from the governor today, he was saying that he would like to invest more resources in mental health. i'm sure that's welcome in virginia. i'm sure we welcome it in every state, not enough beds and enough staff. the lieutenant governor also i believe that she campaigns holding a weapon of war. >> that's correct.

>> and she had a tweet saying, beautiful day, ranged a. marines not to use guns, and i will never support a red flag law. second amendment says, shall not be infringed, hashtag semper fi, so, do you think you have partners? >> i think it's absolutely ludicrous. because people are, you have all these people out there who are imitating folks like the governor, the lieutenant governor. and it sends a really, really bad message. because people are being i think motivated by hate speech and all of the proliferation of guns. but if we're not going to talk about this now after all these mass shootings that we've had, several here in virginia, if we're not gonna talk about it now, then when? people are dying. families are suffering. our community is traumatized. we have got to bring an end to gun violence, and the only way to do that is with common sense

gun legislation. and i thinking now, that the critical mass that we've been looking for is developing, just like around george floyd where people took to the streets and marched. i think people are at the point where they're gonna march out somewhere to make sure that legislators understand that they're sick and tired of this, they're not gonna put up with it anymore. and i think a lot of this is going to be felt at the polls and subsequent elections. because people understand now that we have got to elect people who care about whether or not our constituents live or die. we've got to come up. >> yeah, senator -- louise lucas, appreciate you taking the time before thanksgiving to talk to us. >> thank you, my pleasure. >> here with us now you have -- a special correspondent for vanity fair, and cnn presidential historian -- cnn political enders -- and cnn political commentator scott jennings is back with us. molly, your thoughts?

>> this is a uniquely american problem, because we are a country that refuses to regulate guns. and so, we have the shootings and we have them everywhere. we have them in schools, we have them in restaurants, we have them in malls, we have them in bars. and it's happening because we refused to regulate guns. and i think that it's so craven of republicans to say this is a mental health problem sure it's a mental health problem, it's not an either or, we are happy to fundamental health that's great, and then have sensible gun laws we don't have to live like this and you know just like we saw in these midterms most americans don't want to live like this. >> you know it's really affecting my mental health poorly, mass shootings. that's part of why we have a bad mental health problem. ron, you know, you're a student, obviously, of trends in america. and how are we at this point? >> this is, i think, a crisis of majority rule, there is no

way that we will ever address the gun problem without addressing the ways in which the fill the filibuster combined with the two senators per state rule basically undermines majority rule. alison, if you look at 20 states that have the most highest gun ownership per capita. they send 30 to republican senators to washington out of those 20 states. if you go to the 20 states that have the smallest gun ownership per capita, they send 32 democratic senators. so equal. the difference is the 20 states with the fewest gun ownership for capita have about 125 million more people. then the 20 states with the most gun ownership. and so, basically what we're seeing on guns is that it is perhaps the premiere example of how the rules empower a small number of sparsely populated, predominantly white rural states that have an outsized influence on national

pro-politics in. -- about a size you get in a democracy, for most of the steps that people want to take. red flag rods, universal background checks, ban on assault weapons, ban on high capacity magazines. the majority of republicans who don't own guns say they support those ideas. but they simply cannot advance through the senate, so long as republicans in the senate believe they cannot cross the republican -- the one constituency, the republicans who own guns. >> scott, because you are, you know, our voice of what republicans are thinking, the latest polls that we have in terms of background checks, runs right. the vast majority of americans support strengthening background checks. in terms of banning high-capacity magazines, again, majority of americans support banning high-capacity magazines. so, why is this so stuck in congress? >> well, because the constituents of the people who represent them don't want it.

>> but they do. a majority of americans do what it. >> of a more majority of americans but these people represent specific states and districts and constituencies. so, that's ultimately one thing that representative government gives you, they don't represent the country at large, they go to represent the people who elect them. that's number one. number two, our manual that we did just pass a pretty broad gun violence response package justice last year. a bipartisan way. it passed the house in the senate and everybody was pretty happy about it at the time. a lot of things that are being discussed right now, looking at this walmart situation that we've been discussing tonight, and i'm trying to figure out wouldn't have stopped this particular case? and i keep coming back to the gun debate is one thing, policy debate is one thing, but no one seems to want to talk about one of the threads that runs through all the shootings, and that's what's going on in these peoples lives? this commonality of broken homes, violent homes, drug addiction, and it goes on and

on and on. it has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with how these people turn out in the course of their lives. i think as we're having the gun debate, i think we'll have that debate as well. i think they go together. >> i hear you, i would say it has nothing to do with guns. because when a deranged person doesn't have a gun, they don't go on a mass shooting. i wouldn't say has nothing to do with guns. but i hear you, scott, and i'm not disagreeing, obviously there's a crisis in peoples homes and there is a mental health crisis and all that stuff. but the nexus is when they get a gun. that's when the violence happens. but hold that thought. because tim, as our historian, give us your thoughts on this. >> something happened in the 1990s. after the 19 90s, that has made the argument that scott made is a totally fair argument. he's absolutely right. those members of congress are representing what their constituents seem to want. but in the 1990s, american police officers wanted gun control. and american police officers made the argument, we are outgunned by the gangs. >> and they still say that, by

the way. >> but the fraternal order of police doesn't say police unions don't say it. and this is the challenge, i think, scott, i'm sorry to talk to you, but on to say to you. the challenge is, we don't have this conversation. we don't talk about this nexus. molly said it's not an either or. absolutely not. but the problem is, the response, i have to say, from the republican side, is we don't want to talk about this. we only want to talk about this as mental health, nothing else. when congress controlled -- when the republicans controlled congress, they wouldn't allow a study of gun violence in this country. they wouldn't spend the money to get data. 690 mass shootings last year. there is no country on earth that has that. why should they be exceptional in the amount of gun violence we have? this year, we have 609 so far. we may actually get more than last year.

this is an epidemic. >> i wanna let scott respond, scott, why are republicans uncomfortable talking about the gun aspect of this epidemic? >> well, republicans, generally, and this is a long held's principle of the republican party, is that we're defenders of the second amendment. we believe in the constitutional rights that flow from the founding documents of this country. that is generally one of the longest held principles of this party. it's where a lot of legislators think that they haveli to defen. and by the way, their constituents expect him to defend. it doesn't mean you can make policy changes or investment things. in fact, we just did. republicans voted for some of these things that just happened. >> i know. -- >> there is a fundamental constitutional issue, that you're bumping up against, you can't just flip at least say, well let's just do this at the other, it's constitutional. >> it's not absolute. and scott, we obviously need an hour special to talk about this,

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murders. >> i want to bring in now -- she's host of investigation discoveries crime scene confidential. she is now available to stream on discovery plus and cnn is a division of warner brothers discovery. thanks so much for being here. so, can we talk about the dna evidence here? because today, the police chief at the investigators went through the list, the long list, of evidence that they've gathered. they've taken hundreds of photos, they have something like 103 pieces of individual evidence. and it's hard to imagine that in a crime scene, this bloody and this intense, that the killer wouldn't have left behind a lot of his own dna. so, how long will it take for them to maybe make a match? a dna match or for them to get to the bottom of that? >> it depends. so, dna can take up to a few weeks to get back. and in a case of this high

profile, they may be able to expedite that. certainly the hope in a case like this is in a case this intently aggressive, the hope is that our suspect could have injured themselves in the process. and that is not uncommon in a case like this. especially with multiple victims in a stabbing. we have a chance to see our suspect could have obtained some injuries, and that would not be uncommon in the palm or in the interior finger areas that we would see some cuts. so, the hope is those injuries could help to either identify a potential suspect, or, that suspect could've left dna on the scene. as you suggest. >> you are a crime scene investigator for 12 years, when you get to a scene like this, with this many victims and this much blood, where do you even begin? and by the way, one more detail here, is that the two surviving roommates first called their friends over to the house,

rather than police, i imagine for moral support or to help them. so, what is that done? what does that do the crime scene? >> it's overwhelming, because they live in the house, their dna can be expected to be there. it doesn't damage the house, it doesn't damage the crime scene, in any way. what we're looking for and the basis of crime scene investigation, as we try to link victim suspect and crime scene. and any evidence that can do that is what investigators are busy looking for right now. and that's what the task at hand is. that's going to take them some time to do. >> well, let's all hope that there is some dna that can be found in that horrible scene, and that they're able to do a match. and find out who this person is. thank you very much, really appreciate you being with us tonight. >> absolutely. >> the senate runoff in georgia is less than two weeks away, we have new investigative reporting on the gop candidate,

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neck virtual tie that we have? >> yeah, when you have a race that this close, everything makes a difference. i think the biggest issue in georgia is, even in the first round, there were clearly many republicans who were hesitant about herschel walker's capacity, his morality, his ability to handle the job. but we're willing to vote for him, because they wanted a republican controlled senate. that is no longer a possibility. and the question is, what are those republicans who held their nose and voted for him, much less those republicans who came out primarily to support brian kemp, are they going to feel motivated to come out a second time for a candidate about whom they have many doubts win control of the senate is no longer really at stake? >> what do you think, scott? >> it's gonna be a close race, i mean herschel's of obviously fighting uphill with fewer votes in the first election. on this saturday voting thing, i don't understand. instead of fighting against the saturday voting, where just focus on our efforts on getting people to vote when the polls

are open. that be my advice to the republicans down there. i don't quite understand. republicans are allowed to vote on saturday to, that would be where i would put my energy. >> yeah. and it's easier to vote on a day or enough to vote, but enough to work by the way. i've noticed. also this new kfile report, cnn's investigative team has new reporting, molly, that basically herschel walker has been getting a tax break in texas, last year in this year, for what he calls his primary residence. which is in dallas, texas. which is not in georgia. dallas texas is not in georgia, i've learned. and i'm just wondering if we think that will affect -- a carpetbagger claim will affect him. because people do think that affected dr. oz in pennsylvania. >> well, this is to quote mitch mcconnell, a candidate quality problem. these are these not vetted candidates just like oz was the same way. and i mean, he's not from there. neither was oz, oz was from new

jersey. and people want to be represented by people who are from where they're from. so, i do think that's a problem. he's also been plagued with scandals and he's had a lot of -- there's a lot of stuff that has come out to this campaign. but he's ultimately, i have to wonder if republicans really want him in the senate. he'll be there for six years if he wins. >> well, they certainly want -- i think that they want and they would prefer to have a split senate than to have a one per -- one person lead for democrats. >> absolutely. it will make him much easier for him to take over the senate in two years. by the way, the democrats have a tough slate. they're going to fight a lot to contain control of the senate for two years now. of course, republicans would like to win the seat. the problem for the republicans as what molly said, is that mitch mcconnell predicted that a number of the republicans that donald trump insisted on

supporting, we're not gonna make it. and, you know, herschel walker has either violated the law of georgia or the law of texas. but he's actually been a resident of two places simultaneously. so, he's got a problem. it's not just optics. he's actually got a legal problem. i think the big question for me is brian kemp. that's what i'm watching. does brian kemp throw his machine behind herschel walker or not? herschel walker doesn't have a machine. reverend warnock has a machine. and the question is turn out. i don't know, does brian kemp want to help donald trump's guy get elected? >> he is. isn't brian kemp campaigning with him? >> yeah. two weeks ago, it was reported that brian kemp was loaning his full turnout operation, his people, all of his technical know how to the republicans to

try to turn out voters for the runoff. regarding walker on this residency issue, everybody knew he lived in texas, this is talking about before. to acquit him to dr. oz, dr. oz was not a favorite son of pennsylvania. herschel walker is a favorite son of georgia. and everybody knew he had lived out of state and then come back to run for the senate. to me, it's a non issue. the bigger issue is what ron raised earlier. can you get republicans back out one more time and can brian kemp convince a few more republicans who voted for him to pull the lever this time. the reason the vote matters, by the way, is because of the filibuster. it doesn't mean control of the senate, but if you get democrats closer to changing the filibuster rules, that might matter to a lot of republican voters. >> got it, ron, last word, quickly? >> real quick? five states made joe biden president by switching in 2016, if walker loses, we will have trump backed nominees who lost in all five of them this year

for governor or senator which is about as clear -- even with three quarters of the voters saying the economy was in bad shape, which is about as clear a statement as a republican party can get on trump's ability to win back those places in two years. >> stick around, we have some election news to report. yes, the midterms are still going on. okay, cnn now projects senator lisa murkowski win will win reelection in alaska. this is another loss for former president donald trump who endorsed her republican rival. murkowski voted to convict donald trump in his second impeachment trial. and also, in alaska, cnn projects that democratic congresswoman, -- will win alaska's at large house seat, defeating republican rivals sarah palin and -- that's incredible, we're still getting in projections and reporting on midterm results. now, of course, it's a holiday

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the food -- thanksgiving is a day of delicious overindulgence. but there's a new study that suggests if you're trying to control calories tomorrow, moderate exercise makes you hungrier than intense exercise. it's counterintuitive. i also suggest no exercise, but that's a different story. let's talk about this with molly jong-fast, -- and scott jennings. molly, what is your thanksgiving strategy, or do you just succumb to the food coma? >> i just try to be normal. >> your normal on thanksgiving. >> you know what, i eat pie every day. >> wait a minute, you ate pie every day. >> well not every day, but i eat a lot of pie. so when i presented with pie i eat it, i have a piece of it. i had some pie today already. >> did you really? >> this is a great life strategy, by the way, i wasn't expecting this. but i like we are going with this life strategy.

okay, scott, what's your thanksgiving strategy, do you just eat your face off? do you try to control it, what do you do? >> i try to control it, but my main exercise strategy is to take a good long walk after the meal. because if you walk after you eat it like controls your blood sugar, brings or insulin down, so this exercise business after eating. after eating is where i'm going. >> that's good, scott, is that what the study suggests. the study says it makes intuitive sense that exercise would make us hungry, and often it does. in many studies, people who work out moderately for instance walking, and up peckish afterwards. and ready. >> i'm not exercising the before, i'm doing after. as soon as i'm done eating, i'm gonna walk like three miles and then pretend it's all gone. that's what i'm doing. >> i like that, i like that strategy. ron, tell us about your thanksgiving strategy? >> i feel like i'm getting an explanation here, because i am

a pre-thanksgiving meal -- it's gonna be 78 degrees out here. >> you really rubbing it in. >> i realize i'm grading on a curve here, i'm definitely a pre-meal exercise or. and now i know why it myself into a coma every year. >> stop exercising. either you have to exercise intensely -- >> maybe need the mali strategy of more pilots exercise. it would be even more successful, for thanksgiving. >> can you ever go wrong with more pie? again, a live strategy. tim, tell us. >> very simple. you choose between potatoes and stuffing. my mother makes a great stuffing. you choose the staffing. >> why do you have to choose? >> because then it all falls apart. at that point, you are more staffed than the turkey was to begin with. and then you can't enjoy the pumpkin pie. i think you just make choices. >> well, tim. that's a tough choice. in my italian family, our

tradition was we would have a pastor course before the turkey and stuffing and mashed mashed potatoes meal. so when i brought friends home from college, they just truly eight them selves into a food coma. i was like, rookies. they just slept the after rest of the afternoon. so, pastor before the thanksgiving meal. that's what professionals do. >> that's hard-core, alison. >> exactly. all right guys, thank you very much. have a delicious pie day. sounds wonderful. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. e 9 of your worst cold and flu symptoms, to help take you from 9 to none. for max-strerength nighttime relief, nyquil sevevere.

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on more vacillating journeys. in the first episode, lisa explores how the loneliness of the pandemic-era changed the fabric of human relationships. and how some people are embracing non human companions to fill the void. here's a preview. >> tell me about when you first became aware of real deal. >> oh gosh, there was a special on one of the cable channels. and i was like, that's interesting. before i brought her home, i wasn't sure what to expect. i opened the box, and i just went -- like that. i was just so taken back. and i felt her say, my name is tasha, take me home. take me with you. >> she really heavy? >> she's about 60 pounds. >> you must carry her around a lot? or she's pretty stationary?

>> she has a stand, or she sits in a chair like this. >> and you style her, you do your makeup, everything? >> yes. yes i do. a lot of youtube videos. >> you get a good job. >> thank. you >> lisa joins me now, lisa, intriguing or was a disturbing? >> wow. >> tell us about this shooting. let me be crystal clear, that's his girlfriend, right? >> so, this is nonhuman companion. you know, alison, our show has always tried to look at issues through a very unique lens. and this episode is no different. i will say that this is not an episode about sex dolls. it is about the relationships that all of us are having with non human entities. most of us are not in relationships with life sized

dulls. we are in relationships with our devices. and the things that we can do and experience on them. and the truth of the matter is, with ai in these algorithms, they actually know us in some cases better than we know ourselves. they know what makes us happy. they know what makes a sad or excited. they know what kinds of things we like to buy. and in some ways, we're not even thinking for ourselves anymore. these devices, these algorithms, are controlling our behaviors and controlling our thoughts. when you see how four people are being pushed to extremes because the information they are receiving is, essentially, served on a silver platter based on the data that has been collected on all of her habits. so, while we may not be in relationships with life-size dulls, we are in relationships with our devices and what's available on them these days. >> i think that's a really interesting angle. i think it's a really

fascinating way to look at what relationship means. can we get back to the doll for a second, because i am just fascinated by it. partly because she's actually a great girlfriend. because you can project whatever you want on to her. she doesn't argue. >> and alison, there are people, and this applies to the virtual world as well. there are a lot of people out there who suffer from severe social anxiety. or have a debilitating fear of rejection. whether it's a doll, or it's virtual reality, you don't have to deal with those things. you are validated. you are loved no matter what you look like, no matter what you do, what you've done. you can specify whatever you are interested in. so, it's this constant stream of adoration, again,

invalidation. and vr is getting so good that by some point, we may never have to leave the confines of our own bedroom. we can travel. we can go to sports games. we can go to concerts. we can even have sex. and again, we can design exactly what our partner is going to look like. and so, will we ever need to leave the confines of our space? and what does that say, what are the implications on the future of human relationships, when technology literally starts to take on a life of its own. >> i think, not good. that's my theory. i'm not going out on a limb. i think not good. i think it's intriguing, really intriguing, you present so many thought-provoking ideas. but i just think that it's better to interact with humans. but whatever, all reserve judgment until i watch your special, and i watched this is life and the whole series. lisa, it's always great. your specials are so intriguing

and i love watching the teases for them, they just make us want to tune in. >> it's always our objective to provoke thought. >> and you do it well. so, this season of this is life premiers sunday night at 10 pm, only on cnn, and you can find every episode of this is life, because they're all great, from previous seasons streaming on discovery plus. great to see you, lisa. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much for watching, have a wonderful thanksgiving everyone, our coverage continues now. (vo) after fifteen years of the share the love event, subaru and our retailers have donated over two hundred and fifty million dollars to charity. in fact, subaru is the largestc. ...and the nationapark foundation. and the largest automotive donor to meals on wheels...

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