>> the former president was already having a turkey of a legal week, now comes what

could be a sign of trouble. john berman in for anderson. barely a day after 3 or 4 legal setbacks depending on how you're counting, including a supreme court defeat on his taxes, trump now has one more thing to worry about, the possibility that his former vice president, the one he 6th a mob on when he tweeted 2-24 pm on january 6, could one day off or potentially damaging testimony against him. so far, pence has avoided giving evidence under oath. just last week, pence told jake tapper that he has not cooperating with the house select committee. >> the january 6 committee, congress has no right to my testimony, because under the constitution of the united states, as vice president, we had 2 coequal branches of government. congress does not report to the white house. the white house does not report to the congress, and i truly do believe indeed the separation

of powers, and to avoid what would be a terrible precedent. >> that is out, he says, but what about testifying in a criminal investigation? because as we learn late today, that is exactly what federal prosecutors are seeking. we also learned he could, hence, could be open to it. couple that with the possibility that the former vice president is winning a presidential run against his old boss, and you got quite a dish this thanksgiving eve. cnn's kaitlan pollens is working the story for us and joins us with the very latest. kaitlan, at this point, how likely is it that former vice president pence would provide testimony in the justice department investigation? >> john, it's quite possible right now. they are at a starting point, that is where they are. there is a lot of eyes on the special counsel jack smith. from our reporting, we understand that this request from the justice department went to pence's team a couple of weeks ago, so before smith's apartment but from prosecutors, who are going to continue

working on this january 6 criminal investigation, so how much smith is going to want to put forward on this is, is a big question, but we do know from our reporting that pence is open to discussing the possible agreement with the just apartment, where he can come in to testify. that might be a grand jury. it also could be what the fbi directly he could be providing some information, and it does not look like he is saying no outright, john? >> pence made clear that he has no interest in cooperating with the house select committee investigation in january 6, so people understand, what is different about the justice department probe? >> it's different because this is a criminal probe that's a much different thing than a congressional probe a congressional probe, they are their own branch of government, and they are equal to the executive branch, so they can't reach into the executive branch and pull everything they want there's a standoff there that continues often whenever the congress is trying to get information but in this circumstance, it criminal investigation, that's the

justice department's doing they will be looking into their own branch of government and also justice department criminal investigations have historically gotten lots and lots of information that they wanted, including around past presidencies there is nothing that is here that would say that the justice department cannot get out of pence they have already gotten information out of his top deputies and in the past, the nixon presidency, the clinton presidency, even the reagan presidency, all of those presidencies have been tied where the justice department has been able to build criminal investigations and look into them >> caitlin, vice president pence just published a book, a book tour, inside some of the details with his interactions of the former president, donald trump, as he tried to overturn the 2020 election. might that undermine and a potential claim of executive privilege or? >> look, donald trump is the person who could try and claim privilege and fight it. mike pence in his own right was

a very important and powerful person, who has his own authority, so he ultimately may be able to make a decision on his own. it's possible the trump team will try to fight, but that book that you mentioned, that pence put out, we know that he is already saying in the book, he's defaulting conversations that were directly between him and donald trump. he was saying when he told trump, i don't believe i have the authority to overturn the presidency, to block the certification by congress. he says in his book, he writes the trump told him that he was whipping out, he might have been perceived as a wimp. those are the sorts of details that the just department may want to nail down. we know that there are already nailing down quite a bit from many of the other people around the white house, around trump, even around pants, so if they do ultimately get him, john, that would be what they say is gravy. >> gravy, well done on this thanksgiving, kaitlyn polanski,

a happy holiday for you. thank you for being with us >> you as well. >> perspective from cnn carrie kordell o and republican strategist, alistair harry, you heard the report from kaitlyn there, how big of a deal is this? >> i think the fact that the vice president's team, the former vice president team is talking to the justice department is important, and this is a process, john. first, they will open a dialogue, with suns like they've done, and then they will ask him, the question for him is, does he want to voluntarily come in and be interviewed or potentially testify before the injury? the next question is, will he be compelled? sometimes, john, there is this great space in between the government forcing someone serving a subpoena and won the potential witness actually would prefer to receive a subpoena and prefer to be compelled that way they can sort of publicly, especially if there are politics involved,

have the appearance of holding back a little bit, not volunteering to go in but at the same time, if they're served with lawful process, cooperating with a belt law enforcement investigation >> please compel me, i only testified because they forced me to, that kind of situation alice, about the politics, if the former vice president does choose to cooperate with the investigation and also chooses to run for president in the coming years, he could be offering testimony against a rival for the republican nomination, so how do you think he looks at the politics of this. >> i truly believe that mike pence did the writing on january 6, and he will do the right thing in regard to a criminal probe, regardless of the political consequences. look, any other potential candidates that donald trump will face in 2024 understands full well what that means. that means if you are someone

that stenson donald trump way, you will get called a, name we criticize, be mocked, and all of those that are currently potential 2024 candidates are already proceeding that. i don't see mike pence shying away from doing the right thing based on what could happen in 2024 and how donald trump would respond. donald trump clearly as gone after this and this, gun after glenn in can, and speaking with leaders on their teams, they will ignore him because republican see every day, with each passing day, donald trump becomes increasingly irrelevant within the republican party, and the best thing you can do is to ignore him and look at issues moving forward, to advance the country and events the next peaceful transfer of power and put donald trump in the rearview mirror >> caitlin talked about the possibility of the former president trying to

exert executive privilege to keep the former vice president with testifying. how successful would that be? what would the impact of that be? keep in mind that some of mike pence's aides have ended up testifying, with other executive privilege to president one of their, it didn't hold up. >> there are huge differences, as you also are describing, between the congressional inquiries, where so many aides have tried to assert executive privilege on behalf of the former president versus this criminal investigation that the justice department is conducting. so, why there could be stronger cases of executive privilege when you deal with the 2 branches, congress has to get information for a political or legislative process versus the just apartment which is part of the executive branch conducting a criminal investigation and then using the court system to facilitate that investigation. so there's a huge difference there in terms of the a bill the to use executive privilege. the fact that the former vice

president has also were in some of the things that he might talk about in an interview or testimony you smoke, will you make arguments on behalf of the former president even harder. because if it is already out there, if he has communicated that information publicly, it would -- work to challenge it and use executive privilege, the fact that he has already put some of the information out in the public would make that and even we can case that's not even getting into the fact that executive privilege really is the domain of the current president >> look, the bottom line is that the justice department has got in the testimony it's going so far. it's taken more time than they would have liked in some cases,, but they are getting what they want so far. alice, what about mike pence? what role do you think he wants in the republican party going forward? >> he wants to continue to have a big part in the party, as he already has. if you recall when donald trump was the nominee, mike pence was

instrumental in galvanizing social evangelicals behind donald trump and encouraging him to look for scully like justices and really go all in on the pro life issue and issues that are important to social evangelicals that is mike pence's calling card, and whether he puts his hat in the ring for 2024, or he is advising someone else, he has a key role in keeping issues that are very important to a big part of the republican party front and center. look, it will take someone with a temperament of mike pence to do what needs to be done with the republican party. darting that needle with keeping donald trump's base on board and broadening the 10th to the republicans who are disaffected due to donald trump 's extremism. republicans across the country, john, speaking with them since the last election, donald trump's extremism has expired, and they are ready to turn the page they just need someone

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make national headlines, there has been a -- a colorado springs lgbtq club saturday night, last night a walmart in chesapeake, virginia. 6 more of our friends and neighbors gone. we just learned that all 6 worked at the store. lorenzo gamble, brian pendleton, kerry pile, -- and a 16-year-old whose name has not been released because he is a minor. in a moment, a trauma surgeon who treated the wounded first, cnn style and gallagher about what all we know about what happened. >> -- you kept people like a ain't nothing to you. >> -- >> this video was taken by employee kevin harper, he says the gunmen was a store manager. >> just got off the break room, he started capping people in their >> the manager came into the brick room, never entered the room but stood in the doorway he opened fire.

he looked at me and shot near my head, it was about inches away, i would not lie. there were people drop into the floor, everybody screaming, gasping and yeah, he just walked away after that. >> the chesapeake police chief provided a timeline on how it unfolded. >> our 9-1-1 dispatch cynthia received a first call a 10 pm last night. the first officers arrived on scene within 2 minutes of 10-14, and entered the store approximately 2 minutes later at 10-16, and the scene was declared case by 11-20 pm. >> police say the gunman a 31 -year-old manager on the overnight shift. he died on the scene from a self inflicted gunshot wound. authorities say he was armed with a handgun and multiple magazines. what remains unclear is why. >> we don't know at this time. the investigation is ongoing, so there's no clear motive at

the time. >> i am new but i heard from the beginning that he was the one to watch out. 4 he was released and office. he gave off lunar vibes. >> the city said 2 of the victims are found in the brick room, another in the front of the store. 3 others died at the hospital. this woman's relatives who works at war more was injured in the shooting moments after he started a shift. >> he went in at 10 pm tonight, and we received a phone call -- his wife received a phone call about 10-18 saying that he had been shot. he clocks in at 10, so he had not even been there 10 minutes. >> walmart released a statement saying that is shocked by the tragedy and it is quote praying for those impacted by the community and our associates. this is the 2nd mass shooting in virginia 2 weeks, something virginia governor glenn you can adjust today. >> this is a horrendous event. it's a horrendous senseless act of violence. >> diane gallagher joins us from the scene. diane, you also spoke with other survivors and employees

about a possible motive the shooter might have had. what do they tell you? >> john, they seem just does perplexed and stressed up by what this man has done like everyone else. i spoke with survivors, some of the employees, who said that the gunmen just came in and started shooting. he had a blank look on his face and did not say anything at all. almost everyone we spoke with who worked at the warmer and had dealings with the shooter said that he had exhibited out or even threatening behavior in the past, noting, according to one woman, had been mean and condescending to the employees there. walmart has said that he was on a salary manager, but that he was and over 19 supervisor. we talk to these employees who felt that he relished in the power over them when he worked here. none of them expected what happened, not even 24 hours ago here at this walmart, did it have been. they said that he seemed strange and stent office, but they never thought that he would take lives.

>> another tragedy, then gallagher, thank you so much. perspective now from dr. jessica bridges, one of the critical care surgeons who treated the incoming wounded. >> dr. bridges, thank you for joining us. the patients who came to your hospital after the shooting, how are they doing tonight? >> i can report that out of the 3 patients that were here at the hospital, one was being discharged today, and then to remain in critical condition. >> one being discharged, that is a piece of good news, thank you for that how much do they remember about what happened to them? have you had to tell the more details? >> i can't go into a lot of details about that, but certainly, they are aware of what has happened, and what they have been to >> doctor, can you walk us through what was going through your mind when the patients first started

arriving and you saw the full extent of what happened to them? >> sure, so i was on call that evening, so i was called by my partner, doctor carver, and it was late known that we had a mass casualty it would be getting multiple patients. at the time, we did not know how many. at that point, we drill for this on a regular basis. unfortunately, we have mass casualty incidents all too frequently, so this is something that we are prepared for. my way to the hospital, i was calling in other surgeons to be available if needed, making sure that we had the appropriate number of operating rooms available, icu beds and pulling in any additional staff that was needed. >> i understand that you had reached out to one of your colleagues in colorado springs, who had taken care of shooting victims there. did you ever think it would have been where you are just days later? >> sure, yeah, that was a very sobering realization when i realize what was happening at their i had just spoken with one of the surgeons at colorado springs.

it is heartbreaking. we go through this all too often, even in -- multiple mass shooting incidents, whether a virginia beach municipal center, one of the local bars in the downtown area. we have multiple masters like this on a not too infrequent basis, so unfortunately, i think everyone that is a trauma surgeon in the u.s. knows that it is not if you have a situation like this, it's one. >> not if but when. i know it's your job and i know unfortunately you have experience with this, but how hard is it to separate the job what you have to do from letting the reality of what is happening sink in? >> sure, i certainly think that in the moment, and i speak for myself as well as the outstanding team of nurses and respiratory therapists an anesthesiologist and surgeons working with us last night. when we are in the moment and

doing the work, we don't really think about that. we just got to work and do the best we can. this is the job we trained for. this is a job i love and moments like this, there's no other place i would rather be than be in a hospital helping these people out of their time of need. once the dust settles, and takes a toll. with these great emotional highs from helping save a person's life come pretty justice those at times. it can be tough. telling a parent that their child will come home, or that their loved ones passed away when they arrive to the hospital, the memory of this family member reactions is forever burned into your brain, and again, while there are amazing games where i love my job, there are days when i come home and hug my kids and try not to let them see me cry. it can be a hard job at times. >> dr. jessica bridges, thank you so much for the work that you do, i have to say, i'm

sorry that you had to do it so frequently. thank you. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> more now from colorado springs and the murder of 5 people in a nightclub that was an anchor of the lgbtq community there. today was the first quarter appearance for the alleged shooter. cnn nick watt is outside the county jail for us, where the defendant is being held. nick what did happen in court today? >> john, the suspect set throughout, slumped in a chair, by video link from the stroll house behind me, wearing an orange jumpsuit, heavy bruising around the face. if you remember, the suspect was taken down in that club, and a young naval officer and trans woman kicked the suspect in the had repeatedly. the suspect did not say much, name, then said yes that they watch the video outlining the rights. no one asked that they had any further questions. the lawyers for the suns pickups it incorporates that the suspect identifies as not

binary, uses the pronouns they/them. the judge in court did not use they them pronouns and afterwards, that the aid was asked, is this non-binary stat is gonna have any impact? he said, no, no impact on the investigation, no impact on the prosecution. this suspect is the defendant. today, we just had the arrest warrant charges, 5 counts of first degree murder, 5 bias crimes, that's what they call hate crimes here. formal charges are expected december 6, so that's just under 2 weeks from now. john? >> you also spoke, i understand, to the neighbor of the shooter. what have you learned? >> we did, john, and this is not just a neighbor, this is a friend. the 2 of them have bonded over video game, spent hours playing together. they lived across from each other. xavier crouch and -- suspect live with his mom across the whole way up until september.

this man xavier klaus said that the suspect not once mentioned this non-binary status. carlos also said that the suspect would have had outbursts. he said they came from a place of anger. those oppress were at least once directed at the gay community. apparently they suspect said that they hated gay people, used a slur to describe get people, but clouds set that those a press room in the towards other races the suspect also apparently proud of his guns, showed them off the cross and said at one point, bro, it's not the guns, it's the people you got to be scared of. cross at the conversation sat with him. john? >> that is very interesting, nick watt, appreciate you being there for us tonight, thank you very much. up next, we're getting new details tonight in the investigation into the murder of 4 university of idaho students will tell you what we know and what remains unanswered, that is next you spend the holidays making everyone else smile, but what about your smile? it needs care too, and when it does, aspen dental is here for you. this season, and every season,

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>> idaho police let it much needed press conference on investigation. tonight, there's still nobody in custody. cnn's in moscow idaho with the latest. natasha would please say today? >> well, john, not a whole lot that's new information. that was very frustrating for people in the room, and we've

heard from victims families about wanting to know more than just vague statements and little bit of details here in there. there was a little bit of new information, including the fact that the man that was called several times from one of the victims phones in those early hours, he's been added to the list of people cleared as potential suspects here. the police also explain the process, because behind the scenes, the processing more than 100 pieces of evidence. it took 4000 photos. they're chasing after more than 1000 leads, and interviewed 150 people. they wanted to explain, that until the public that they're making this a high priority, even if they can't release a whole lot to the public. >> without a suspect in custody at this point, what are the plans for when students return from the holiday break? >> right, with the university president issued a statement last night to students saying -- the option to finish up the rest of the semester remotely or in person.

just a couple weeks left in this semester, and today, we learned there's gonna be a pretty heavy police presence. granted, this is really a big shock for a college town of about 25, 26,000 people. is what captain roger lanier told the press. >> in some ways, this took our innocence. i was taught students, you need to stay with a friend. -- increase some of the safety on campus and provide certain options to students. so, yeah, going forward, there's a lot of things that we wish we would've done before, but we need to start doing now. >> one of the questions asked of him today was, why can't they share who was targeted among the four people? or if it was all four of them? because information like that could help allay some fears in the community. but the answer to that was, they could not say, because they wanted to protect the

integrity of the investigation, john. >> all right. the tasha cheng, we appreciate you being there for us. thanks very much. perspective now from forensic scientist -- professor at john j college of criminal justice, also retired investigator paul holes. he's the host of real life nightmare. -- law enforcement officials are sifting through about 1000 tips, 150 interviews, but they still haven't named or arrested any suspects. what do you think they go from here? >> well, they've actually got multiple investigative process is underway. but these take time. even the forensics -- gonna talk to, think about, hundred and three items of evidence. that sounds like a lot. but imagine one bedsheet but these victims were killed on contains maybe 100 bloodstains, and maybe one of those is from the offender. this takes time for the analyst to get there. now, also, going through all

the digital evidence. video surveillance, the salt howard dumps that they're going on, man hours. they're getting to a point where, now, i think they're gonna -- narrow win after a week and a half, two weeks. they're gonna start narrowing in, and potentially identifying the offender. but it takes time. >> the perpetrators deon day, if it is president at the time crime scene, what's the timeline in terms of processing? how long could it take? >> it takes time, as you just heard. this is a very bloody scene. four people were murdered brutally with multiple stab wounds for each individual. so this is a very difficult scene to work on, even for forensic scientists who are very experienced with bloody scenes. there aren't a whole lot of murder cases in the city.

when you have something like this, quadruple homicide, people are frightened, and they want instant action. you, know it's like television. it turned on, 60 minutes later, you've got the crime soft. that's not the way it is. we've got a lot of different kinds of forensic experts working the case. there are fingerprint people, trace evidence people, there are people doing dna analysis. also, don't forget, you have the autopsy, which is a very important piece of information. out of that autopsy, what we learned was that the murder weapon is probably a military style knife. whether it's somebody did or not comes out in the autopsy. or if there's a straight edge, that comes out in the autopsy. the width of the blade, that comes out in the autopsy. so there's a lot of information that we have gathered already that is just not being revealed. we don't know all the details yet.

it'll take a lot of time. there's a lot of information. finding the point of entry is very important. there aren't a lot of possible points of entry. at that point, you've got a look for all kinds of at evidence that might reveal the name of the person who did this. they're only really two kinds of forensic confidence that can turn up a suspect instantly. and that is fingerprints and dna analysis. so you're asking the right question. dna can do, it fingerprints can do it. but sometimes, this takes time. >> so, paul, if neither dna nor fingerprints do it, if it doesn't show up in any database anywhere, paul, then what? >> well, than they have a long haul to go. because, now you're relying on other traditional investigative tactics. we have the world of high tech. so, it's looking at the victims devices, it's helping the offender carried a smart device

that is got its location service turned on, and potentially, you know, getting information as to what devices were at the crime scene at the time that the attack occurred. could be critical. it's going through video surveillance. but now, you have to expand out. because the longer this case goes on, and they don't identify the offender, and ends up being more likely that the offender is an actual stranger with no prior interaction with the victims. and it becomes very hard that point. and now, you're casting a much wider net and disinterest occasion turns more into a marathon that is sprint. >> which is the last thing they want to hear in that community, particularly with people coming back from the holiday break. has to be a scary time to be a student there. paul holes, -- thanks very much to both of you. a quick reminder, paul dives into some of the most -- series, realized nightmare, on our sister network, hln.

just ahead, ukraine's defiance for an onslaught of russian missiles that killed at least seven and knocked out power in much of the country. plus, my conversation with a british american professor who managed to hide out in survive for months under russian occupation of kherson. make this december one to remember. together. happy holidays from lexus. ♪

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>> at least seven people killed today in ukraine after a barrage of russian missiles temporarily locked out power to the country. those fatalities, according to ukraine's first lady, included two day old infant after missiles struck a maternity ward. ukrainian forces say russia fired 70 missiles. 51 were intercepted, along with five attack drones. the white house today said the missile strikes don't appear to serve any military purpose. -- the lack of electricity and fuel this winter could put the lives of millions under, quote, massive threat. despite the misery, many ukrainians are grateful for their freedom tonight.

timothy morales is a british american teacher. he was tracking kherson from the time of the russian invasion last february. he basically lived behind emily -- enemy lines for months in an occupied city until kherson was liberated last month. i spoke to him earlier. >> so, timothy, when the war started in february, what was your thinking than? then you try to leave? >> well, yeah. on the first day, i was woken up at 5:40, with an smes, asking where i was. it was my ex-wife. and that's when she told me the russians had invaded. and that first day, we spent my -- my daughter, i have a ten -year-old daughter, she was there at the time. trying to -- find petrol. the petrol stations were just absolutely inundated with cars. blinds, two, three kilometers

long. we got petrol, we headed -- on the way out, and i should say, the road that connects mykolaiv to the bridge, basically the one way out of -- there were tank battles going on. we saw, physically saw tanks moving back and forth and fighting each other. and understood that maybe -- might take the chance, but with kids on board, we decided not to leave at that time. >> what a time it's been ever since. what's it been like? or what was it like during those particularly tough periods, to hear sirens and explosions day after day? >> one of the things that's interesting, several people contacts here in odessa who previously lived in kherson. it's not just me who feels this

way. the people who are left in kherson where more upset -- not upset, but more unnerved, i guess. it went for a couple of weeks without any explosions, which happens in september, october. we used to get nervous. we'd like to hear the sound of the -- blowing up. it is just a sense that we hadn't been forgotten. so from the early days, of course, when you first hear explosions going on, it's unnerving. but later on, we learned to anticipate -- the sounds of the -- going off. >> what was it like to be in kherson when it was liberated? >> we've got approximately ten days without any electricity, without any water. so obviously, no internet or

mobile phones. over two days were very difficult. but, people adjust to situations dog. -- mornings, afternoon,'s looking at my window. it was one of those afternoons i was sitting there, looking at the window, and a car drove down the street, and it had to ukrainian flags flapping from the windows look on the side of the car. and i was like, okay, this is probably just somebody being brave. doug we hadn't seen russians for a couple days. but then, later, a minute and a half, pick up truck came down

the street with a bunch of people in the bad, with an enormous ukrainian flag. there are honking, they weren't being discreet of, honking, shouting, cheering. and that sort of up in the floodgates down the street. there came hundreds, maybe that's an exaggeration, but lots of cars, big honking, screaming, flags flying. so as, like okay, all right, i walk down the street, to the epicenter of kherson in front of the governor's house. everybody cheering, everybody happy, carrying their flags. some of the flags were brand-new. some of the flags were dirty in tattered from people who had

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>> here's a 5000 gallon water tank. can loved her slice of paradise until it began to run dry. >> what keeps you up at night? >> neighbor's wells have dried up. others harvesting rainwater as an extra buffer. >> this is the stockpile that is about to go into the house to be used to flush our toilets. >> many homeowners relying on private water deliveries from nearby scottsdale which no longer has enough to spare. >> come january 1st we are done. >> as november, scott still informed water hauling companies at starting in 2023 they could no longer by scott still water to the outside limits. including the foothills. >> the man delivering the water, and more recently the bad news is john worn over. >> there is no question about it. the drought is reality. rio verde is the first domino to fall because of the drought that we are in. >> people taking it seriously enough? >> water is more precious than you realize. once you go to your faucet

internet on, and there's no water. then's value becomes real. >> quads urban arizona, signs of drought aren't immediately obvious. as the taps run dry, developers keep on building. >> this is a symbol of the massacre of maricopa county. >> maricopa county which includes the rio verde foothills is the fastest growing in the nation. adding more residents last year than any other county. but, as cities boom, the drought pushes arizona farmers to the brink. >> thanks to the colorado river, penal county is or at least was one of the most productive farming regions in the united states. the crops grown here are shipped all over the country. but as the mega drought continues to worsen and water supplies like this dry out. the farmers here fear that their fertile fields could become desert again. >> once we get to your two shortage, we lost all of our water. >> for three generations, family has the soil in an hour's drive south of phoenix. >> we are looking at where i

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