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>> good evening everyone, i'm laura coats. and this is cnn tonight. and look, after a long holiday weekend, we are finally hearing from more republicans who are calling out the former president for the dinner that happened last week with holocaust denier, nick fuentes, and rapper kanye west. >> president trump was wrong. to give a white nationalists, an antisemite, and a holocaust denier a seat at the table. and i think he should apologize for it. and he should denounce those individuals and they're hateful rhetoric. without qualification. >> mike pence also saying

tonight, he doesn't believe the former president is a racist, or a bigot, although it does it make you wonder about the company that he is keeping. given the statements of condemnation that you just heard from president trump. a white nationalist, a holocaust denier, and the rapper formerly known as, or now known as yay, tweeted that he's going to go death con three on jewish people. not sure that qualifies for someone to be called bigoted, but we'll wait and see i guess. for that from mike president. pence and the shooter that killed ten people, and the super mike it in the mostly black neighborhood in buffalo, pleaded guilty today. some of the men and women who were killed, said that they think that he was treated

differently, say a black shooter. we're going to now the political analyst, ashley medicine, also kevin, who worked on the presidential campaign, and alex burns is here as well. good to see you all here tonight. look, there has been a bit of a pass that was over the weekend. it's thanksgiving, and hoping to hear from many members of congress. they're hopefully doing what we're doing, eating turkey. but on monday today, we are hearing things, we are hearing some condemnation. but i want to just, sort, of orient the discussion for a moment. because not everyone might know who mr. fuentes's. and what he stands for. you hear the name and wonder, now what could he have possibly have said? we played through a little bit of clips that he has, a mash-up of comments that this person

who now has access to the former president of the united states, would say. >>, we've got the white question man that built this country the first time. and we'll do it again. dumoulin atmosphere done, send the military into these black neighborhoods, make the streets safe, don't complain about it. it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter, they're never gonna vote for us. who cares? you know, along with the jim crow stuff. who cares? oh no, they have to go to a different school. the water fountain in the

famous picture, was worse. who cares? grow up. now they're on russia, vladimir putin is hitler. that's not a good thing. i shouldn't have said that. [laughter] >> he's so funny. he really is. normally, provocateurs don't interest me much. because i really feel or don't fall for the bait that they give. but in this instance, the fact that this is somebody who had an audience with someone who is running for reelection is very concerning. don't you think? >> absolutely, but i'm not surprised. donald trump continues to show us who he is, and i do appreciate, former vice

president pence saying something. i wish he would have also said something as strong in charlottesville, when you had neo-nazis marching through the streets. also, saying antisemitic things. so the fact that you have somebody who says that they are running for president in 2024, who was the former leader of this country, sitting down with somebody like yay, who is problematic on very different, but also ye has no political analysis here. and an antisemite is troubling and we need to pay attention to it, because you cannot ignore this type of behavior. it allows it to continue to fester. >> what's new about this

tonight is that the former vice president has spoken about this very issue. you are right, he has been infamously mute on a number of issues. still, never going all the way to distance himself completely from donald trump. the question is why. because, i, mean it is likely that he has probably aspirations to be president of the united states. whether that's a viable aspiration? we do not know. but he is now coming around,, alex and you have other top republicans who are condemning his behavior. and actually, having an open conversation about, in fact, here is senator and corey ernst talking about these issues. senator said it is a bad idea to every level, i don't know who is advising him on the staff. and i hope whoever it was got fired. cory saying that it's, bad there's nothing about it. joni ernst thing it's difficult, that's all i'm saying about. it other saying it's difficult to expresses those views.

you have those coming, out even senator kramer, saying, from north dakota, here he is. >> while, he should condemn it those kinds of things. anybody would stand for. no matter who they are. clearly, it's not our view. it's not my view. i don't think it's his view. but, as you know, president trump doesn't condemn a lot of people who support him. >> act the part, alex. he doesn't condemn a lot of people who support him. is that the crux of the issue? >> certainly, for former president trump it is much of the crux of the issue. i think what is so important what you're hearing from a handful of these republicans now, laura, first with mike pence. he's not just sort of a rapid former president on the wrist. and moving on, i think the way you've seen a lot of republicans do overtime. i think the challenge to trump that he should apologize, is an

interesting and very deliberate choice by pence. it advances the conversation further. i don't think pence is eager for a long, drawn out fight with donald trump. but it does mean that it's not necessarily quite so easy to just say your piece and move, on and hope that the media cycle moves on. soon enough. to i think more than anything though, this is an indication of at least, a sense among republicans, and that is a pretty decent cross action of the party, you're not just talking about the never trum p folks are the ones who voted for impeachment once or twice. he really is a politically weekend fourth. why are you hearing a joni

ernst, or a kevin speaking so clearly. the problem with donald trump? they don't see him as the guy who's running the show anymore. >> what do you think about? that >> they're not convinced of that yet, and the thing that is ignoring to me is that they're doing this in such an incremental way. and they're doing it with these little glancing blows, and then there's sort of checking the temperature and seeing. am i getting any blow back from a republican base? >> are they? >> they don't know yet. and that is the not the right question to ask. i think the main question we

should be asking is, is sitting something about -- the answer on that is emphatically, yes. he's at the qualifying act to sit with someone with those views. you should not be able to be the head of a major political party, or president of the united states, and that should be the question that they are asking. and quite frankly, i would be sitting here rhetorically and i would be asking myself that question as an elected member, and the leader of the party. and i say in faculty, he's not qualified to be president. >> and i say for the long list of things that people try to disqualify trump on the basis of. it's pretty, long you see senator jamie, very intent on his qualification of being tied to january six for example. but the notion, here and i don't want to give him necessarily an olive branch in, this but his statements have been, president trump, has been, listen i don't always know who i'm sitting with. kanye brought the people with, him which given security questions about the people you don't know who's coming around, the former president the united states. i wonder if the obamas or clinton, or jimmy carter for that like our, saying i don't, know who has no with me this days, that's a cop out. but that's with the statement as. ben >> yeah, but he does cop outside the time.

when you are the president of the united states, or the former president, especially the most immediate former president, you know who you are sitting down with, there is vetting that is supposed to be happening. now, it might not actually happen in the trump -- because they don't actually have any particles it seems like. >> is that [inaudible] >> now, because you have a responsibility as a leader. and the thing i agree with you with, is why are they doing this now? pence wants to be in the new cycle, just as much as donald trump wants to be because you know, he might not want this to go on forever, but he will bring it up on a presidential race. >> but alex's point in part, is interesting that you are making.

is the idea of pence's statement this time around. requires a response. and the in the absence of a response, the absence of apology is in itself a response, or refusal to acknowledge something, is that, and again, it's a glancing blow but at that point, is that intentional you think by pence in terms of getting a response and wanting, one or asking if he'll get one? >> look, i don't think anything that mike pence says about donald trump is that not intentional. but to kevin, point until you have leaders of the republican party out there driving the message that this guy is not qualified to be president, that he should be seen as having taken himself out of consideration, there is no mechanism to disqualify somebody from seeking public offices, just because they're an abuser, and their character is deficient. that is about driving a message that persuades voters to see that way, until you have folks on the right notches dipping their toes on the water to say let's see how the base is gonna react to, this but really taking the situation in hand and saying it is my mission to make sure that the base believes that this guy is the costs qualified, you're gonna see round after round of this. and i do think just in terms of the crop out after calk, out how many times has donald trump, accidentally had dinner with a left wing radical? one is that ever happened? >> you just mentioned that's the biggest hack to the problem, here we are again, donald trump kicking, driving the new cycle. and everyone else reacting to it. if you want to be the 2024 menomonie in side the republican party, and you're not donald trump. you have to get out of this vicious cycle of just t cand ththe last th is this 2016, 2020 reductions.it respontrum news cycle sta, an clip, because i and i do sense chang truand f - say something, at leas bu >> th the repu and i'll letthat, bu clea>> now, of cou may be very cbecaushe b georgihow it all pans o im reeling from one af gunm beings in a racist shooting, in a buffalo supermarket, in a mostly black neighborhood, today has pleaded guilty. and some of those victims, they are not happy about, this will

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>> well, the gunman in that horrific, races shooting at a buffalo groceries story that happen in may, pleading guilty to the state charges today, 19 -year-old peyton pleading guilty to one count of domestic terrorism, motivated by hate, ten counts of first-degree murder. three counts of attempted

murder, and a weapons possession charge. his plea now ensures that there will be no state level trial, but he does still face federal charges, which is obviously already pleaded not guilty to at this point. now some of the victims family members expressed some frustration with the outcome today, calling out the system that we have for being overly sympathetic towards the gunman. >> his voice, showed me, made me feel sick. this country is inherently violent, it is racist, and his voice show that to me today, because he did not care, he did not even, you couldn't hear him and his voice, he was just a robot. >> so in court today, a lot of anger, anger was over my body, i was angry how the judge was constantly talking to this gentlemen like he was a little, priebus and six great boy, i was angry that they didn't have to look at the faces of the

families victims that he ruined and scarred for life. >> let's think about why he was taken into custody, when others can have their hands up and they are not taking into custody. they end up on the ground with bullets in them. my mother had bullets in her, i did not know attorney, i did not know the full extent until i came here today. >> back with you, now ashley and kevin madden, and norm

eisen is joining us as well, norm when you look at this, again, keep emphasizing, state charges versus federal charges. we know full well of course that federal can often be that backstab, first sometimes failed state charges. but just the idea of the anger and the frustration of the families, you have been a defense council, and a prosecutor, we've been in this courtroom cinci the frustrations of so many. what is your reaction? >> laura, i've worked bet penalty cases defending those who are accused of these heinous crimes. and my first reaction is not as a lawyer, it's a human, one and my heart is breaking for these families, there is nothing that can bring back the precious lives that were lost, or ever fully heal those scars, that's a scar that never heals. i do think that killing, him

for the terrible things that he, did this is not a case where this is a crazy man. this is the stone cold killer, he made up his mind and he did it on races grounds, still, life in prison, is a severe penalty for that, killing him is not going to heal those wounds, those victims, the families will have a chance to impair in court and talk, and i think as a nation, i returned to the question of, he legally bought a gun, he illegally modified it, we need to make it much more difficult, if you look at the statistics, the last thing i'll say, if you look at the statistics internationally, or even in the united states where it's easier, and more difficult to get guns to do these kinds of modifications, where it's more difficult, there are many fewer mass killings, we must address this, as a society to prevent this horrible pain that we are

seeing in buffalo. >> and ashley, thinking about this, norm is right, the human element of this, the pain, and this is on the backdrop of how many mass shootings occurred even since this happened in may? it is horrific that we are still, i've reported on so many, as we all have in our time, but he is right that there will be a time for a sentencing opportunity where the victims impacts statements can talk, and i found interesting part of the frustration of the families was that they wanted to be able, through a trial, to have information come out, knowing that there is a spotlight on what has happened and wanting to address what all of the evidence and just thematically that he sought out this particular community based on demographics and based on the intersection of race and income, and geography. there was an intersectional story here. >> yeah, i mean, i am just like norm and i'm sure everyone, here in everyone watching. i go back to that day when we heard about the shooting in buffalo, and as a black american, it hit differently. there are many shootings, but this one hit home, and you never want to tell a victims family how they should feel like justice should be, served

because i think you can never fully empathize until year in somebody's shoes, and i am not a supporter of the death penalty, but that doesn't mean that that shouldn't be what those, if that's what the family won, it should be able to have that, but i also think that what you heard was the racial implication that they felt that this system was unjust. that they felt like if this was a black shooter, that he might not have had even the chance to plead guilty, because he would've been dead. if they might have had more transparency, it sounds like they are just learning things today, and they need that transparency foreclosure, to norms point, i do think that

there are some measures that we can take around assault weapons. but also, there are some things on monitoring without invading privacy, about chat rooms that people were in on social media platforms, where he was quickly early espousing some of this hate, and his intent, and that should be addressed as well. >> let's be clear on one, thing and again, i agree with you i would not dare to suppose i knew what justice look like for a family member. at the state level in new york, the death penalty was not an option, it was life without possibility of parole. but they are federal charges could possibly bring that about. there is a moratorium right now on death penalty, cases actually attorney general merrick garland talked about not being support of the death following -- but i can't help but look at these cases kevin, on the backdrop of, we see what happens when families don't believe that, the trial is not taken, place there is not the semblance of justice in some parts, meanwhile here in washington d. c., we've got the oath keepers trial is going on, and for many it's clear as mud, maybe as day depending upon your view points about the evidence before the jury, in

washington d. c. the jury is still deliberating, and many look at this and say, well what could be taking so long, i thought they were all these discussions about an expedited result. what do you make of the fact that the oath keepers trial, as of right now, we are on verdict watch, has not yet rendered a verdict? >> well, without going into any of the details of, that because there are a lot of details involved i evidence involved. i think one of the big challenges here about both of these cases, is that we oftentimes have them driven on a public policy conversation, or a political conversation, or a larger sort of conversation in society. they are often time driven just by events, and so many of the questions and problems that we face in the day-to-day, and management of the judicial system, and the legal system, things like equity, things like fairness, so much of that as a conversation that can't take place just around one event. we remember buffalo happened, then uvalde happen, then we finally saw some policy action. but the conversations, and the address, addressing these issues go to a very deeply rooted problems in the system. and in society. those conversations have to be ongoing. beyond any trial, beyond any one event, it becomes newsworthy that everybody that turns the cameras on and reporters show up. that conversation probably has to be very much more methodical, and very much more systemic. >> we are very reactive nation when it comes to policy, that's one of the complaints. we often hear about discussions about gun control, when a mass shooting occurs. not the sustained conversation,

but before we got a break. i'm curious norm, from your perspective, are you surprised from having not yet gotten the verdict from the oath keepers trial? >> no, it's two days. they had one before the holiday now they've had a second day, they sent a note out of the jury. >> it wasn't a good note. the prosecution i'll tell you that. >> it wasn't a terrible notes, they wanted to understand what prevent hinder delay, as you, know in this case, seditious conspiracy. has to be a agreement to prevent the delay of any execution of the united states by. force and they wanted to understand how that related to laws governing the transfer of presidential power. and, judge mehta, when he was a, lawyer we practice together in the firm, judge made us sent back and instruction how the two interacted, that they're gonna have to find an agreement to interfere with the transfer of power by force, i think there's a lot of evidence of that, i represent the d. c. ag in a civil case against these

malicious. i know these are not easy, cases and i appreciate that the jury is taking their time, but come on, we tried a bunch of cases, the jury was out longer than two days. the jury sent multiple notes and then they convicted in the end. so i think the evidence is strong. >> my jury is really liked me, and justice, so i gotta tell you. >> -- >> i'm getting. it was always on a reasonable doubt. laura coats. >> despite not being as likable as laura coats, they still root for me. >> i will say, prosecutors respected, if i have a jury that's asking questions about clarifying, and definition that was the meat of my case. i'm worried about what i may have faltered, on but we will see, and everyone is extraordinarily likable, in court and out. there we go. look at the smile. >> i hope my family is watching. >> there, not my kids, no one watches me either in my family, but not personal, look, we are eight days away from what everyone is watching, that is a critical senate runoff in the state of georgia. and now we're learning that the former president, donald, trump he is not gonna appear in a campaign for herschel walker in georgia. plus, lava is flowing down the largest active volcano in the

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>> georgia senate runoff is really heating up tonight, where entering the final week of the contest between democratic senator, raphael warnock, and his republican challenger, herschel walker. and thousands, and i do mean thousands and thousands of voters have already cast their ballots, more than 300,000 as of today, which blows up the old record of 233, 000, so very motivated voters here. that's according to georgia election official, gave starlink, back with me now actually alison, kevin, mad and alex burns returns as well, i want to play for you this part because governor kemp, i think, really encapsulates exactly why there has been good turnout, and why he is still promoting and endorsing herschel walker,

let's listen to what he has to say about why you should vote here now. >> we cannot rest on our laurels, everyone, you're gonna decide who are senator is. this is going to be a turnout election. who is more motivated? is it them or us? >> not a whole lot about herschel walker's campaign. right? >> turnout! >> turnout! who's gonna do? it >> who's more excited? >> that's the crux of it. that's what they're saying. >> the amazing thing about this race right now, it's been three weeks, we have one more weeks ago, it has been an extension of what we saw for the last eight months, it is just the same messages, it's the same tactics, with the same two candidates, spending money on ads.

that's really all it is. nothing much has changed in the last few weeks. >> $50 million by the way. >> the d $7 million by the way. >> democratic tire, and think it's -- million for democrats, 22 million for republicans. but i don't know, there seems to be a different sort of, taste in terms of the ads that are being run. for a long time, senator raphael warnock was criticized for not being more attack, attacking of herschel walker, people wondered why he wasn't gonna talk more about the abortion related scandals, and whatnot. now he has this commercial, out which i saw and kind of chuckle that because, that was the conversation that people were having, they would show you a video of what herschel walker had to, say and what's your

reaction to it, he had a hone in on that, a little bit more of a tactful way. but here it is. >> watch stupid movie late at night, doesn't get better, but you keep watching it every way? the other night, i was watching this movie called fright night, freak, night some type of night and it was about vampires. there were some core people. >> what the is he talking about? >> is he serious? is he for real? >> i found out. the way i would kill of empire, -- >> what is he talking about? >> that is the question people were asking about that very clip, alex, is this the approach he ought to take in terms of senator warnock? >> first of, all its give senator -- where it's still i didn't know that. [laughter] >> are you a georgia voters? cause he would want to know that too. >> i'm, not but, look you know,

far from a to tell brian kemp how to win an election in georgia. it's a very convincing victory, but what we heard him say the ad is not quite true. the fact that it's a turnout election, the fact that it's a bizarre sideshow, up there sideshow. about what brian kemp and raphael warnock showed in the midterm elections is that that is a persuasion game also in georgia. right? that you have many thousands of people turned out to vote in this november election and cast their ballot for a republican governor and for a democratic senator, and what herschel walker badly needs to happen in the runoff, is that a lot of those people who put their ballots, either switch back to just voting straight ticket republican, meaning only for him this time or they just stay home, and not that many people show up. it doesn't really look like from the early vote that folks just staying home is a great bet on this land, but you don't, you know, what you see in that ad is herschel walker trying to getting to the republicans who

rejected him last time, because they think he says outlandish stuff. they think he's a person of low, character and just, say listen man just vote to the for the team this time. >> i think quite camp was talking about also, we call that a persuasion turnout, that you have to convince people to actually go and vote, some people call it get out the vote. i thought that that add that the warnock team put out was spot on, hilarious, i watched it five times today, and there was one part where they were like, he's talking about air and he's like, the guys like it's all the same air. you know, you just, somebody needed to name a, thing and they're like what is he talking about all the time? anytime he speaks he said something in his speech and you're like, what is he saying? am i, is something going on

with me? am i missing the point? and now, his own party knows that because every time he goes out, he gets chaperones. and they, because they want to clean up if he says something crazy, which he did most recently, i'm not gonna say what he said, but he definitely said something, inappropriate about the election. >> what a cliff-hanger, i'll leave it alone this time. the google everyone right, now we'll see yourself, and it's not just warnock is doing, this walkers heading back. i mean he has an adult as, well because there were questions that were raised about comments that senator raphael warnock made about one's character, is what you have no one's looking. with this. >> character is what you do with nobody is watching. aren't >> and warnock that no one was watching, when his ex-wife called police to report his abuse. >> he's a great actor. >> and we're not thought no one was watching when he evicted poor people from their homes. >> is that effective? kevin? >> it's the same ads that were run in the general election, that we saw three weeks ago, it's the same, th on thi t knowi m maj iso and an >a po c b a ei e c l wor, the d n e f i don't want surgery? well, then you should find a hand specialist certified to offer nonsurgical treatments. what's the next step? visit findahandspecialist.com today to get started.

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>> there's a really rare events happening in the white tonight, you've got dueling, dueling irruption from two active volcanoes on the big island. for the first time in nearly 40 years, mauna loa, the world's largest active volcano is sending molten hot lava streaming outside of the mountain. it began late sunday night, and right now there is lava, and what is known as their northeast riff son, according to officials. that have little effect to residents, in the time being and i hope that remains the case. and also, nearby, is the ultimate volcano erupting nearly 20 miles away, and in 2018, it destroyed more than 700 homes.

joining us now, current-elect and lieutenant governor josh green. you've got both the titles right now. it's good to see, but we're learning a lot about what is happening down in hawaii right now, i mean, right now i'm wondering, is there a big risk to the residents of the areas, i mean to erupting volcanoes? it's crazy. >> it is crazy, but there is not a threat to our people right now, thank goodness. it's interesting, this is the area where i took care of patients as a physician when i first came to hawaii, and we are a vulnerable community out here in hawaii. we've had so many different storms and disasters, you described the other volcano erupting in 2018.

and now, mauna loa. which it has been a long time, it's been 40 years since mauna loa ruptured. but because going to the northeast rough, so that is a better way for the lava flow. it goes into a flatter, area the lava becomes quite viscus, and it slows down before going near our people. which would be he low, he low is the town on the big island and it's where my in laws live and it's just a week away and we hope that it won't make it out of town. >> wow, the idea that that would be like the prospects, feeling about the time, but as and -- although the lava might not present this urgent threat, i'm

wondering about the air quality posed by the volcanic ash in the air. i understand it's pretty, minimal but that could have impact on those with respiratory conditions, and might create them. is that right? >> that is true, there is more hot air coming out of the georgia election -- but i'll tell you it's not without consequence here, we do have a thing called hague. that's volcanic smog, and that has peoples lugs. and people are twice likely to have aspirations are copd when the volcanoes go, off and also there is a thing called police glass, or police hair which is shards of volcanic ash that the carbon forms into a glass like fiber and people breed that in

but right now it is been very, minimal it is been safe, and we are encouraging people to wear masks if they are concerned, and monitoring it for equality, so there's no where is traveling to hawaii. it's a big island. but it's a concern always, we worry about these things. >> but so i wonder how you prepare, obviously with certain national exhibitors for a hurricane, were wondering what happens there. is there a way to prepare? because i think from the u.s. geological survey, has reported earlier in the summer that is been some seismic activity at least near mauna loa.

is there a way to prepare or is there really a wait and see approach that must be taken? >> we do monitor things constantly, there were a lot of earthquakes so we knew it was coming, we stratified, risk we do a lot of science here in hawaii, as you, saw with covid. u.s.. science we have good results, with the volcanoes we use silent, we get people prepared. if the lava had actually broken through to the other side away from the northeast, into the southwest. it's more worrisome because you can't predict where these lava flows will go. and then it goes downhill really quickly towards kona and -- , which are other areas of the big island. that would be more disconcerting. also, whenever we have earthquakes we have some concern about the shelf moving, that could cause things like a tsunami. if the shelf moves into the ocean. i know a lot of this freaks people on the mainland, out but these are very rare instances. we follow them carefully with our geology folks, and we are okay. but we appreciate all the concern because everyone loves, hawaii and these are pretty unusual, things you don't see this in the mainland. >> you certainly do not, we're thinking of everyone out, there and it's hard not to fall in love with a place like hawaii, so we wish you the best out there, as well lieutenant governor, governor, electoral screen thanks for taking the time to be here. we'll follow along. >> thanks for wearing about us. we care about you guys too. >> thank you. well, jay leno everyone. he is returning to the stage and he is cracking some jokes. although, probably not good as the governor elected about georgia. but we'll give them credit as well. the comedian is back at, it after some serious burns from a gasoline fire? so what did he find funny about? it will tell you next!

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>> how is it to be back? >> i've got a stage. >> back with may actually addison, never, nor mason. big -- shocking that i happen to, good to see him back out there. >> yeah, i mean, i love jay leno, i think he, i love to watch a show, very excited to have him back. and i was particularly worried because the browns were on his, face and he has such an iconic. face >> the most famous chin and show business. >> yeah, just to see him back and i think it's serious. that's what we need. >> he is to go out on the road even it when he was the host of the tonight show, so the comedy club circuit is in his blood. so it's great to see him doing what he loves. >> and how fantastic, on a day with some very heavy knows, to have jay leno back, and showing us the role of humor in lifting up his own spirits, and all of us, it just was a bit of good news that we needed.

>> and we need to have more of, it glad to see him out, there and of course, what was not a laughing matter to some people, bob dylan. he tried to make his life easier. by essentially, using an auto pen to sign limited addition copies of his book. and yet super finds were we're comparing online thought, hold on this looks exactly the same. turns out that they indeed were subject to duplication. i of course have a book with simon and schuster, his company as well in this -- so i won't say too much about my about selling book, but let's talk more about this notion. because he was trying to cut corners. but it is bob dylan. >> the value of my books actually goes down. so i, it is not the bob dylan situation, but here's what i will say laura, he started the show on the call for trump to apologize, and we all know that

donald trump will not apologize if pence asked him 100 times. bob dylan apologized. he made a mistake, he had vertigo. he used the auto pen and said he was sorry, they are sending money back to their fans. again, that's what we need to see, you make a mistake, apologize! >> i'll give him credit for apologizing. i, mean i hate that he only apologizes when he gets caught on stuff like this, but i do give him credit for that. >> i guess some too cynical, of not surprised. i'm just not surprised that they would be so many people use they auto pen to use those signatures, and. >> too much time and governments. [inaudible]

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