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but that's not common. we've seen it with hawaiian eruptions, including just a few years ago, but really the biggest threat is to property, things that we can't move. but generally with an eruption like this, we have plenty of time to help people get out of harm's way. >> the fact that these are happening simultaneously, did one trigger the other, or is this random and does this have anything to do with climate change? >> so the volcanos did not trigger each other, even though they are next to each other. they have their own separate ma gma cham ybers, which is a store area before the pressure erupts to the surface and becomes lava. and so basically they have their own plumbing and didn't trigger each other. and, fortunately, as is so rare
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these days when we're talking about geoscience and disasters, volcanos are not impacted by climate change. so the fact that we have a changing climate doesn't affect these volcanos at all. the volcanos erupt when pressure builds up in the system and that's all that causes the eruption. now, there is some misconception about do volcanos make climate change worse. i'm happy to tell you they don't. they produce less than 1% of all the carbon dioxide emissions annually around the globe, so humans are still on the hook for that. >> well, jess phoenix, thank you for making us all smarter. really interesting to talk to you. okay, it's the top of the hour on "cnn newsroom." i'll alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell. president biden is in michigan visiting a semiconductor plant and he's scheduled to speak later this hour on the economy
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and potential rail strike that looms over the holiday season. >> this morning biden emerged from a rare meeting with leaders from both parties at the white house, confident a strike can be averted. >> i asked whether they would be willing to come in and talk about what we're going to do between now and christmas in terms of legislation, and there's a lot to do, including resolving the train strike, what we're doing now, and congress, i think, has to act to prevent it. it's not an easy call, but i think we have to do it. the economy is at risk. >> cnn's manu raju is on capitol hill and phil mattingly is at the white house. the president says he's confident that a rail strike can be averted. why is he so confident? >> i would defer to our good friend manu on capitol hill because that's where things land right now. the president has made a call and it was a very complicated call for a president who has bestowed upon himself the title as most labor friendly president in the history of the country.
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this is something that will directly undercut what labor representatives have been negotiating for, at least on the rank and file side of things. remember, the tentative agreement that was reached between rail carriers and the 12 major unions had to be signed off on by the rank and file. 4 of those 12 had it rejected. the deal included some very clear wins for union representatives and their rank and file, however one of the things it did not include was paid sick leave. that was something they wanted very deeply, it was something they could not get. it's something that the president and his team say they support, but they need to stick to the agreement that's on the table right now. one thing that did come out of that meeting between the president and the top four leaders in congress is that democratic leaders who control the house and senate, house for another month or two, will move forward on that agreement. they do believe that they can move it forward over the course of the next couple of days. however, the reality remains there is a clock here, it is ticking, and it's not just the deadline which is december 9th. it's the fact that every day they get closer to the deadline,
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certain critical components of really kind of the backbone of how goods and services are transported across this country will start to kind of productively shut down. that's the concern right now. that's why they want quick action. still some very real issues outstanding, i guess i would say, as they wait for lawmakers to act. >> let's turn to manu. speaker pelosi says she will bring a bill to the house floor tomorrow. what does the path look like in the house and senate to avert a strike? >> democratic leaders in the house are whipping their members to make sure they have votes to get this passed. speaker pelosi is confident that they do have the votes, they'll likely have some republican support as well. and then the big question will be how quickly can this get done in the united states senate. it's a much different institution, one that requires all 100 members to agree to schedule a vote. otherwise you have to go through a very time-consuming process, time they simply do not have in order to avoid the economic impacts of any disruption among
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the railway. so the question among democrats is can they get that agreement? right now bernie sanders, one of the members of the senate democratic caucus has concerns. he says he will oppose this legislation, over concerns that it does not include paid sick leave for rail workers. he told me earlier he wants to insist on an amendment vote to essentially assure the workers do get paid sick leave. the vote will probably fail but he has not said whether he would agree to a quick vote on the underlying bill before that critical deadline of december 9th. on the republican side, it's another question. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, has indicated that he plans to support this, he'll push this forward. but will his conference get in line? republicans are divided over this issue. mcconnell himself said there are mixed views among senate republicans. some say there should be no congressional action whatsoever, others recognize there needs to be something to avert a rail strike. so those are the big questions. can they get a quick vote in the senate, get democrats who are concerned about this in line and can they get enough republicans
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on board at the end of the day and right now republicans and democrats are optimistic, but it may be bumpy until then. >> thank you both. so the pentagon just dropped a major report on the military power of china and it revealed that china is making nuclear warheads faster than the u.s. predicted. >> the report detailed that if china continues at this pace, the continue will have 1,500 nuclear warheads in a little more than a decade. oren lieberman has been combing through the report. what else have you learned? >> it was just a couple years ago you saw in that chart right there that the pentagon said china had about 200 warheads and that could double within a decade. well, only two years later, a fraction of that time, the pentagon says china's nuclear stockpile has surpassed 400 warheads. it's not a question of where it goes from here. they say at that pace they'll hit 1,500 in 2025, so a little
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more than a decade. what is the goal of having this number of nuclear warheads? it seems a far cry from the lean and efficient nuclear deterrent that china once said it wanted. it remains a fraction of the u.s. nuclear stockpile which is up toward 4,000. but, again, what is the intent behind having a nuclear stockpile is a cause of concern for the pentagon. >> the challenge here is the more proliferation there is, the more concerning it is, the more destabilizing to the region it is. so certainly we want want to ensure from a regional -- global and regional stability standpoint that we can maintain an open dialogue to ensure there's transparency and that we understand what the intent is behind this. >> the china military power report also gives an overview of china's military. they have an army of 1 million soldiers, numerically the largest in the world, and an air
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force with more than 2,000 fighter aircraft and numbers are growing as they look to modernize and expand their military force. what's the purpose behind this? it is power pro jek, and according to the china military power report, you see that with the increased military, economic pressure on taiwan, especially after the visit of house speaker nancy pelosi earlier this year. they are using their military more around that, whether it's navy operations, whether it's aircraft into taiwan's area, they use it as power projection. we saw this one more time essentially overnight with the south china sea, much of which china claims is territorial waters. a u.s. guided missile cruiser sailing through the south china sea, china claims it scurried that away and forced it to flee. the u.s. says that's not what happened. >> thank you for the latest. so china's government is cracking down on those rare protests that are opposing covid lockdowns. they have erupted in at least 15 cities across that nation. the white house is treading carefully in its response as
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president biden tries to mend u.s./china relations. the white house says only that the u.s. supports peaceful protests. >> officials have steered clear of addressing some protesters calling for the removal of chinese president xi jinping. u.s. national security officials are concerned that a u.s. response could undercut demonstrators. the thought is that a stronger response could prompt claims by the chinese government that the protests are part of a maligned effort by the u.s. let's turn to former u.s. ambassador to china, gary loch, a former commerce secretary, former governor of washington. lots of titles there, mr. ambassador. good to have you back. let's start with the rhetorical approach. when it comes to the protests in iran, the president says we will free iran, taking a different trac track. should the u.s. be more bold with these protests? >> i think the united states and
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administration has taken the proper approach by saying that we very much support a people's right to express their opinions and their views in a peaceful fashion and that government should allow that type of free speech. the problem, though, is that we're dealing with a very authoritarian communist regime in china and they can be very, very ruthless and the hundreds of people in all these different cities, actually thousands of people throughout china who have been protesting over the weekend, have already been met by stiff resistance. people have been called in to police stations, they've been basically threatened, harassed, many of the sites where these protests have occurred have been almost barricaded or blockaded, and when protesters announce that they're going to move to another location, the police are faster in getting to that location and with a huge police presence intimidating the protesters. so china is trying to figure out a way in which they can allow people to express their views in
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a somewhat limited fashion, but then hope it peters out through this strong show of force without actually resorting to any violence. >> let me get your thoughts on what we heard from a chinese health official today acknowledging the impact of the lockdowns, and said the government would, quote, reduce inconvenience to the public by lifting them as quickly as possible. that's not really what that kind of rhetorical response that the protesters are looking for, but as you point out, the ruthlessness of, as you say, the regime, what is that worth? is that notable, even to hear that from a government official? >> well, i think they're trying to address the underlying concerns of millions and millions of people, hundreds of millions of people all across china who have suffered under these lockdowns. any time a case of covid appears in a city, they shut down the entire city. people are not allowed to go out for food, to go grocery
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shopping, to go to restaurants, go to doctors' appointments, even to go to work. and so that's having a huge toll on the psyche, as well as the income of the chinese people, and there's a huge tension, frustration rising. beijing is saying, well, our policies are being improperly carried out by local government officials. so they're trying to pass the buck. but the local government officials are afraid of incurring the wrath of beijing, so they are just doing -- imposing these draconian measures until beijing actually gives clear guidance on how they're supposed to approach it. but when you have a city of 23 million people or over 20 million people like in shanghai and the entire city is locked down, shut down, that's going to lead to huge tensions and that's why you're seeing these protests erupting all across the country. when people cannot get their sick ones to hospitals and then the patients die, when first
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responders can't respond to a fire and people die as a result of these lockdowns, that's when the anger of the chinese people is coming out and that's what the communist government is most concerned about. they do not want these protests of hundreds of people spread across 15, 20 cities to get larger and larger and larger and then become almost the foundation of the leverage point for unleashing their grievances against anything and everything dealing with the communist party. >> let me get your thoughts on this reporting from oren lieberman about the new pentagon report, the accelerated stockpiling of these nuclear warheads, potentially 1,500 by the end of 2035 at the current pace. is this aimed primarily at intimidation, and the pentagon says this is cause for concern. should it be cause for anything else in the u.s., any response/reaction?
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what do you think? >> well, obviously we need to be concerned about the amassing of any type of nuclear stockpiles and weapons. what is the purpose? how many nuclear warheads do you need to obliterate another country? and certainly if it's a show of force, why do you need so many nuclear warheads. they have a huge army, a huge navy, a huge air force. what more do they need as they try to project power and muscle throughout the world? so the concerns of the pentagon are very legitimate. what is the intention behind all of this buildup of military arsenal? >> ambassador gary loch, always good to have you. thank you. a potent storm system is marching across the middle of the country. right now tornadoes, dangerous wind and lots of snow in the forecast. more than 40 million americans are under some kind of severe weather alert.
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cnn meteorologist tom seder is here. what's the timing of this storm? >> it's already going on. we've got three states right now with tornadoes. this is a dynamic system, as you mentioned. watches and warnings for the snow, coldest air of the season, 1 to 3 feet in some areas, minneapolis, several inches. but it's the deep south, once again, that is really the target. a level four out of five. storm prediction center, this is the first time during the month of november that not one time but two times we have seen a level four out of five. the last one was on the 4th of november. we had 62 reported tornadoes, multiple fatalities. the greatest tornado threat is 4:00 p.m. through 10:00 p.m. we're already seeing it ongoing. look at the temperatures. how about missouri? st. louis is 63 and it's 36 in kansas city. that's the power behind this storm. tropical air coming in from the gulf. when we get in closer, already you're going to start to see not only a tornado watch, this is an elevated tornado watch. it's been given a pds signal,
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that means a particularly dangerous situation, only issued for the most violent and potential damage to occur. the sun sets in jackson, mississippi, at 5:00 p.m. tornado, they had one just east of houston, they've got one in areas of alabama. this one is moving north. again, on the 4th of november they had 62. we could have more than that today, and that means a long track, very large tornadoes. maybe ef-3 or higher. and it's going to come in waves. so, again, at night that's when it becomes particularly dangerous because tornadoes are two to two and a half times more deadly at night. still, damaging winds even without tornadoes will occur with 65 to 70 miles per hour. some of these could have a tornado emergency. that means they're large on the ground. so have your phones ready and have the alerts set. >> tom seder watching it all for us. thank you. new york city mayor eric adams is ordering police officers and firefighters to
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elon musk is taking aim at apple and its ceo tim cook. in a spring of tweets, musk claimed apple threatened to pull twitter from it's app store and alleged they're engaging in censorship and twitter has seen a drop in revenue as more brands drop ads on the platform. >> donie o'sullivan is following
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this story. what's behind this? >> i think musk is getting a little worried. it's important to say that apple has not responded to any of this publicly. but what potentially is happening here is that apple kind of has a vetting process for apps in its app store, so before anything can go on your iphone, apple takes a look at the apps, one, to make sure there aren't viruses or spyware or things like that in the apps, but also we've seen in recent years they've looked into apps to make sure they're not promoting hate speech or maybe what they view as dangerous misinformation. last year parler, the right wring social media platform was removed for a few months until they got their hate speech policy together in a way that apple was happy about. so it's possible that apple has expressed some concerns privately to twitter about this under musk, and what we did see overnight, of course, was that twitter is no longer enforcing
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its covid-19 misinformation policy. so tweets that include false information about the virus and the vaccine are now allowed on twitter. >> that's not going to be helpful, just hazarding a guess. just a guess there. also, donie, we know that an ex-twitter employee is set to speak to the crowd where you are tonight. do you know what he or she is going to see? >> yeah, so this person was basically yul ross. he was part of a team, basically led the team that was in charge of enforcing twitter's rules. he stayed with musk for a while, but quit about two weeks ago. we haven't heard from him yet. we'll be hearing from him at the foundation event in florida in a few hours. but clearly the situation, i think, at twitter became untenable for ross. i think somebody in his position where he is supposed to enforce these rules and musk is then
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making decisions to reinstate some accounts and not others, clearly that put him in a very, very difficult spot. it will be really interesting to hear from him tonight. >> donie, thank you very much for all of that reporting. meanwhile, new york city mayor eric adams is ordering first responders to intervene when someone is suffering a mental health crisis, and this includes possibly involuntarily committing someone who is in need of immediate care. >> brynn gingras is following this for us. the law was enacted last year. what's changing now? >> the mayor wants to clear up this perception that if someone is experiencing a mental health crisis they can only be involuntarily committed or receive help if they're about to harm themselves or harm someone else. he says that's not the case. someone can look at someone and see, are they not wearing shoes, are they not wearing a jacket when it's very cold outside, of course they experience this a lot on the subways, which was a
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big issue with the mayor. he wants officers, ems workers, city staff to be able to assess someone on a case-by-case basis and intervene, and that could mean involuntarily giving them help. so let me first go over stats with you. first, the mental health in new york city, one in five new yorkers experience a mental health illness in a given year. this was exacerbated certainly by the pandemic. and this is something that the mayor campaigned on, wanting to really get at the issue, saying that in many cases the mental health crisis is affecting the crime rates in the city, and certainly this is something that he continues to address with the city. some of these initiatives that he brought out today in this news conference particularly to this new initiative is helping officers have the tools in their tool belt to help people who might be in a mental health crisis. having a dedicated tele-consultant line for police officers, using video calling, basically allowing a police officer to go up to someone. if they don't think they have
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the sense or idea if this person needs more help, be able to get on the phone with a health professional, a medical professional, and make that assessment together. so sort of streamlining that process. and then once that person actually goes to a hospital, gets the care they need, it's important, the mayor says, that they have discharge instructions, they don't just fall through the cracks. they actually are then brought to a homeless shelter if that is the next step or they're given medicine if that is the next step. he basically just doesn't want this to be going to a hospital and then they're left to their own devices. let's hear more from the mayor as he described the initiative. >> state law already authorizes a police officer to make a judgment call to have a person involuntarily moved to a hospital. many officers feel uneasy using this authority, when they have any doubt that the person in crisis meets the criteria. the hotline will allow the
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officer to describe what they are seeing on a clinical professional or even use video calling to get an expert opinion on what options may be available. >> there's a lot of critics out there that are already criticizing this plan, saying we don't have enough care and resources necessary to take care of the people that are experiencing mental health crises right now. the mayor knows that and says this is an evolution, this is a process that's going to take time and tweaking. >> brynn, thank you. a woman in texas who was kidnapped as a baby just reunited with her biological family five decades later. how she figured out the woman who raised her was not actually her mother next. create something new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you u with the tools and expertise you need to bring o out the innovator in you.
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a family in texas found their daughter who was kidnapped as a baby more than five decades ago, thanks to a match on a dna testing website. >> cnn's ed lavandera is live in dallas. tell us more about how this all happened? >> reporter: it's a stunning and emotional story that has left an
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entire family completely overwhelmed. back in august of 1971 melissa highsmith was picked up at her apartment complex where she lived with her mother at the time. she's 22 months old. the mom needed a babysitter because she had to work. the babysitter shows up and then disappears. they never get another call, they never hear another word about her. this goes on for more than five decades, 51 years, until a few weeks ago the parents had submitted a dna sampling and the family members submitted that as well, and it came back as a match with melissa highsmith, who is now 53 years old and has children of her own. the dna came back matching one of her children, so they were able to reconnect through that. at first melissa highsmith said when the family reached out, she thought it was some sort of hoax, a prank, and then it all started unraveling. she questioned the woman she believed to be her mother and
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then the story started to unravel there, culminating this weekend, over the last few days, melissa highsmith has reunited with her biological parents and learned that she has three sisters and a brother. incredibly emotional, and you can hear a little bit from the parents and melissa here. >> it is yeoverwhelming, but at the same time it's just the most wonderful feeling in the world. >> i just couldn't believe it. i thought i would never see her again. >> they said, dad, she's alive. and i started crying. >> so the question now becomes, what happens to this woman who acted as melissa highsmith's mother for more than five decades. fort worth police say they will investigate this. fort worth is the city where she was abducted back in 1971. but it's not exactly clear what can be done. the statute of limitations has
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right now the u.s. men's soccer team is up 1-0 against iran. l last hour midfielder christian pulisic scored a goal. >> andy scholes is at an irish pub and nick watt is live at a party in california. andy, how is it going there? >> reporter: it's going pretty great. as i told you last hour, everyone is really anxious waiting for a goal. we tied in the first two games. that was not going to cut it today. we have to beat iran in order to h move on to the round of 16 and this place just went bonkers in the 38th minute when christian pulisic scored the goal. everyone was jumping up and down, high-fives, people were shooting off confetti.
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it was certainly quite the scene. they're shooting more confetti on me right now. this crowd is excited. they are hoping that they've got another 18 minutes or so in them and they can pull this out and come away with the win. usa fans have been here all day. chris, what do you think of the game so far? >> we've just got to close it out. strong defense, close it out. >> you have a pretty cool world cup story. >> this is my daughter, she's 16. in 2006, eight days after she was born, i left her to go to see the world cup and the u.s. and germany, and here we are today. >> here's hoping they give you a win and you can watch some more games together on saturday. >> amen. >> so victor and alisyn, as you can see, it's rowdy in here right now, but, remember, an iran goal and a tie and the usa is out. so it's tense, but also everyone here is pretty optimistic about the outcome. >> isn't that a cool story,
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right after you were born i went to the world cup? >> she's shaking her head, like, oh, no, dad is telling this story again. >> and, nick, a large population of immigrants. how is the watch party there going? >> reporter: victor, there's one thing that pretty much everyone here agrees on, they do not like the current iranian regime. there are signs saying ayatollah out, the old iranian flag, posters in support of mahsa amini, the woman whose death a few months ago sparked the current wave of protests in the country, and everybody agrees they're happy to talk to us, but without a camera. they are scared, they have friends and family back home in iran and they don't want to be seen on film saying bad things about the regime. it was very interesting when christian pulisic slammed in that goal to see who rose to cheer here and who didn't. more people got up cheering than i thought. there are pretty much
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wall-to-wall dual iranian american citizens here, and some people say they just can't support this team because the regime uses the team for propaganda. right over here there was one man who leapt up in support of the u.s., the ladies behind him, you know, slapped him in the back. she was joking. i said to her, is that your husband? she said, no, if it was, we would be divorced. she says you've got to support this team no matter what. in terms of the food on offer, i will say that they have moved on from the pastries and tea. we've had lamb, bread, omelette, everything for lunch. i'll tell you, i'm used to a deep fried sausage and a pint. this is much, much better. but on a more serious note, one chap did tell me, one man did tell me that the u.s., if you beat us, you are supporting us. if you beat us, the iranian regime can no longer use this team for propaganda.
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we've got ten and a bit minutes left. iran just need one goal. they only need to draw, remember. the u.s. needs to win. so it's getting a little tense around here, guys. >> hookah action. >> yes, that sounds like the party to be at. that sounds delicious. >> nick watt, andy scholes, thank you. this just in to cnn, the 911 calls from that pilot who crashed into the electrical lines and remained stuck there for hours on sunday. you heard victor do this interview yesterday. we have more on those calls just ahead. 12 hours!! not coughing? hashtag still not coughing?! mucinex dm gives you 12 hours of r relief from chest congestion and any type of cough, day or night. mucinex dm. it's comeback season.
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new 911 audio reveals the moments after a pilot crashed into a live power line on sunday in maryland. listen. >> i've flown into a tower to the northwest of gaithersburg airport, it's one of the electrical towers, and believe it or not, the aircraft is pinned in the tower. and i don't know how long we're going to be able to stay here and i don't know -- >> are you the airplane pilot? >> yeah, i'm the pilot. >> how can people be so calm in this situation, victor? >> i can't believe there's no screaming. you don't hear any whimpering, i'm screaming and whimpering when i watch the video. authorities say the plane was suspended nearly 100 feet above ground for almost seven hours until the rescue was complete. pete muntean joins us now. pete, how can they be so calm?
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>> reporter: that's a great question. the audio is simply so amazing because we knew that the pilot onboard and his passenger were able to communicate with rescuers via cell phone for hours while they awaited getting rescued, trapped inside that single-engine mooney airplane. now we're hearing from the pilot in these new 911 audio types, and in it he describes simply just how terrified they were being stuck in this airplane 100 feet up, in that pepco transmission tower. rescuers # say it first hit the transmission lines and then the tower. it happened about a mile away from the montgomery county airport, he was apparently aligned with the southeast facing runway, but in the 911 audio tape, he simply explains that he could see the ground but could not see in front of him. i want you to listen now to how
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he describes this issue. >> totally visibility for the airport. i descended to the minimum altitude and then apparently i got down a little bit lower than i should have. i thought i was closer to the airport than i was. >> it took eight hours for merkel and his passenger to be rescued from inside that airplane. rescuers used a 178 foot tall insulated ladder truck. this cut out power to 120,000 pepco power customers in montgomery county, and had to cancel school. what's also interesting in this audio tape is that merkel describes how afraid he was that the plane was going to get blown by the wind out of this transmission tower. we know now that the ntsb and the faa are investigating. this happened in the dark. this happened when the weather was poor, the visibility was bad. the clouds were low.
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the ntsb says the weather will be a big part of this investigation. >> remarkable. remarkable that they were able to stay that calm. pete muntean. >> i want that guy to be my pilot even though he had a crash. i still think -- >> really? >> yes. i still think his calm and cool nature is what you want in a pilot. >> pete, thank you. will smith is on a media tour to promote his latest movie and is opening up about the slap that got him banned from the oscars for t the next decade. that's next. l freedom. we're investing for our clients inin the projects that power our economy. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance,
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will smith is opening up about that night at the oscars, you know the one. this is his first late night interview since he slapped chris rock. smith said his actions do not reflect the man that he wants to be. >> that was a horrific night, as you can imagine. i was going through something that night, you know. and not that that, you know, justifies my behavior at all. i would just say, you know, you're asking what did i learn, and it's that we just got to be nice to each other, man. you know, it's like it's hard, and i guess the thing that was most painful for me is i took my hard and made it hard for other people. you know, and they say hurt people hurt people, i was gone, dude, i was gone.
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i was gone. you know, that was a rage that had been bottled for a really long time. >> cnn's chloe melas joins us right now. this was an emotional interview for him. what else did he say. >> he also says he's human, and he has to realize that he too, although he is a global icon, and he is will smith and that we have put him on this pedestal, his fans for such a long time, that he makes mistakes just like the rest of us. it's still unclear exactly why he stormed the stage. is this years of him and his marriage really being criticized and made fun of and that's something that trevor touched on too. i mean, will smith and his wife have been by some accounts treated very unfairly in terms of the scrutiny of their marriage. will has been at the butt of many jokes for many years. was that a culmination. although the interview was lengthy, and his first late
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night interview, so many questions unanswered, much more to say. i do think he's ready to start talking, and he did another interview yesterday. we have a little bit of that. >> i completely understand that. if, you know, someone is not ready i would absolutely respect that and allow them their space to not be ready. my deepest hope is that my actions don't penalize my team. >> so that was with kevin mccarthy, local fox 5 interview out of d.c. and chris rock still has not commented. we have reached out from cnn to see if chris has anything to say and also it's going to be interesting to see. does this affect people going to see ma see e mmancipation, comes out nt week. getting a lot of oscar buzz. the sad part about all of this
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is will smith, even if he's nominated for an oscar can't go because of the ban, because of what happened. i think knowing will smith and having covered this and covered will smith, i think an even bigger sit down is to come. i hope it's oprah. >> you would think a local fox interview isn't enough, isn't enough to answer the questions. >> it's not. there's more to find out. and also i want to hear from chris rock too because we still haven't heard much from him other than the tidbits in his stand up. >> shouldn't he just do a red table talk. >> with chris, yes, and his wife. >> they should all do that. that's exactly right. >> thank you, chloe. "the lead with jake tapper" starts right now. can washington present a rail strike and keep the u.s. economy on track? "the lead" starts right now. congress now stepping in going around labor union negotiations to try to prevent a rail