much for that. thank you for joining me. i'm christine romans. the "cnn this morning" starts right now. >> good morning. >> once again. >> once genagain. here we are. good morning, everyone. wednesday, november 30th. we have a lot happening. at least 20 tornados have been reported in the south. alabama facing strong winds and hail. mississippi a community there grappling with major disruption. this is a moment a storm blew a steeple off the top of a church. we're live on the ground. you'll see it. >> also this morning the leader of the oath keepers, stewart rhodes and one of his subordinates has been found guilty of sedition conspiracy.

their conviction a landmark victory for the justice department. just making a big run. meant for him. in the middle. pulisic scores! >> scores! >> listen to don. the game winning goal sending the u.s. to the knockout rounds against the netherlands this weekend. but as the world cup continues on for the united states, will the star player, christian pulisic who sacrificed his body, will he play? he says yes. >> i did do it right? gooaall! we have to begin with this. the south is on high alert right now after a massive storm system spawned at least 20 tornados in

several states. look at that gusting winds swept debris into the air in alabama west of huntsville, while four people were injured and multiple animals found dead in louisiana's caldwell parish. i want to get straight now to ryan young, who's in mississippi standing in front of a church where the steeple was blown off. exactly where are you and how bad is the damage? >> reporter: don, first of all we've been driving throughout the night and the winds have been strong, the rain has been consistent throughout the night. now the temperature has dropped you wanted to see the steeple. we're about 30 minutes away. you can see it came off the church. it's still dark here. we're an hour behind you. so as you can imagine, we haven't been able to assess the damage right now. this here shows you how strong

some of the winds were knocking this off the top of the church. look up there, we don't see any major roof damage. this is what people were concerned about, the storms would be hitting later in the night and people would not have a chance to get out of the way. luckily we haven't heard about any injuries in this general area but the damage here, this steeple is massive. when you walk over to it you can see how solid it is. emergency crews have cleared this area. we're told the firehouse nearby, that was slightly damaged as well. and there may be a house within a mile away from here that suffered some damage as well. when you think about the compounding wind late in the season when it comes to tornado season. you can understand why people would worry about the damaging effects in the area. >> thank you, ryan we'll check back in with you in a bit. it was a landmark verdict for the justice department in a washington d.c. courtroom. the founder and leader of the oath keepers and one of his top

deputies were found guilty of sedition conspiracy for plotting to keep former president trump in office. the jury found three others not guilty of sedsedition. this matters because this was the first of three seditious conspiracy cases to be heard. it was seen as a major test of the justice department's ability to hold the capitol rioters accountable. paula reed is live for us. the outcome is huge for the justice department, where do we go from here. >> reporter: this was a big test and after three days of deliberations, the jury returned a split verdict but still a victory for prosecutor because it was the first time in a trial related to the capital attack where the jury found the violence on january 6th was not spontaneous disruption but the product of an organized

conspiracy. stewart rhodes and one of his subordinates were convicted of seditious conspiracy tuesday, the most serious charge brought so far in any of the 900 criminal cases stemming from the capitol attack. rhodes, megs and three other defendants were all convicted of obstructing an official proceedings and several other charges. >> i think the character of january 6th is sinking into the whole country. >> reporter: the justice department alleged the oath keepers conspired to forcefully stop the peaceful transfer of power and plotted to attack the capitol on january 6th. the trial, the first of three sed seditious conspiracy cases, was a test for the justice

department's ability to hold the riot accountable. the evidence presented at trial revealed how rhodes, a former army pair ratrooper with a law degree from yale, wrote two public letters urging trump to call the. >> let the fight come. if they go canary on us we'll go canary on them. let the fight start there. give president trump what he needs. if things kinetic, good. that gives the reason the president needs for the insurrection act.

>> on the day of the insurrection, rhodes remained outside the capitol. >> we presented a case which showed through evidence and testimony that mr. rhodes did not commit the crime of seditious conspiracy. there was no evidence introduced to indicate there was a plan. >> reporter: they've also signalled they intend to file appeals. now, rhodes and meggs are the first people in 30 years to be found guilty with seditious conspiracy. a sentencing date has not been set but it usually happens a few months after the verdict. >> we'll watch to see what that looks like. thank you for the updebt. the latest on the january 6th investigation. former trump advise and speech writer stephen miller testifying, the first known witness to appear since the

justice department appointed the special counsel to oversee the investigations of the president since he announced another run for the white house. first time there is testimony before this grand jury in d.c. since the special counsel was appointed. there was concern wiould the special counsel slow things down, et cetera. would this indicate no? >> reporter: that's right, poppy. this is moving along at a pretty steady clip. we don't know that many names of people who have gone before the grand jury but this grand jury has been hearing lots of things from top people around donald trump after the election and even on january 6th. so miller is one of those people who was inside the white house talking to the president, including on january 6th as the speech writer preparing that speech he gave to his supporters before they went to the capitol and rioted. the thing we know miller has talked about before because he

spoke to the house select committee on it, was what trump wanted to put in the speech and whether trump was going to mention mike pence. it was one of those things that was in the speech, out of the speech. miller was involved in the discussions and that's one of the things the grand jury would likely want to know from him. what this respects with all the other people going into the grand jury as well. top pence advisers, trump advisers, miller now. those people are all the firewall around donald trump's presidency, and clearly the justice department with the special counsel are chipping away at that, trying to get more and more questions very close to donald trump. >> while we have you, what about the fact that the south carolina supreme court has ordered mark meadows to testify in georgia's meddling investigation. do you expect that meadows will still fight this? >> reporter: we don't know exactly what's going to play out with meadows one on one when he

appears for the grand jury. but there is the supreme court saying he has to show up. that his arguments are just manifestly not with merit. that's what the court said. and so he will now likely show up for that testimony. he could try and decline to answer some questions but we would have to see how that goes. again, chipping away around donald trump, another top adviser in a criminal investigator being ordered to show up. >> thank you for the reporting. it's a landmark bipartisan vote, the senate passed a bail to protect same sex and interracial marriages. >> 61, the nays are 36, the bill as amended has passed. >> mr. president what a great day. what a great day. >> the respect for marriage act is also expected to be passed -- it passed you should say by a vote of 61 to 36 with 12 republicans joining the

democrats, including some very conservative members. >> for the sake of the nation today and its survival we do well by taking this step. but not embracing or devaluing each other's views, but by the simple act of tolerating them. and that, madame president, explains my vote. >> democratic senator kyrsten sinema reacted to the vote saying these families are normal, these marriages are normal and i can't wait for people all across the country to be able to talk to their children and their children's children in the time in america when we made it completely normal for families to be together. the bill heads to the house where it's expected to pass by the end of the year before heading to joe biden's desk. as democratic and republican leaders in congress are preparing to act to pass legislation that would avert a nationwide rail strike that

coming after president biden called on them to do so after he warned a strike could deal a devastating blow to the nation's economy. this is overriding what union workers wanted to see happen here. it's also frustrated some progressives on capitol hill who said the offer should include paid leave for the rail workers. biden came into office promising to be the most pro-union president in the country's history, so i imagine this is not necessarily the decision he wanted to make here but what led him to? >> reporter: you know how often the president describes himself as pro-union, a label he wears loudly so this decision to call on congress to take action to avert the strike and force some of the allies in the union to sort of be accepting of something that they're not entirely happy with, that obviously came with some political risk and ultimately it wasn't something the president

wanted to do at the end, he knew there would be some backlash. you look at his public statements and they've been almost these pain statements explaining why he had to do what he had to do. but ultimately, the white house did see this coming a while away. the reporting is that by mid november the white house was making plans for precisely this scenario. the scenario where talks would fall apart and that's when we're told the president picked up the phone and called top officials, saying my public statement is coming i'm going to call on congress to act. >> he's been getting criticism from the rail workers who did not want to see this. we talked to one the other day saying this was wrong for congress to pass this legislation. what else has congress heard from organized labor on the move. >> the president and the white house have been getting plenty of criticism. some saying he had blown it. you know the paid leave, sick

policy that has been a sticking point in all of this. i want to offer just a little bit of nuance and context i think is important, too. dozens of unions were involved in these negotiations and four of them ended up rejecting the agreement that was agreed to earlier this year. there were plenty of rank and file members happy with it. one strategist i said to said this is not president biden sticking it to the union. this isn't the reagan, 1980s situation where he ended up firing thousands of air traffic controllers on strike. so there's some nuance and political risk too. >> and the economic consequences with the strike. mj lee, thank you. did you see tit yesterday? the moment american soccer fans have been waiting for since 2014. >> meant for him, in the middle.

pulisic scores! >> there's the moment when the u.s. beat iran in the world cup yesterday to advance to the knockout round thanks to that goal by pulisic. but as a result of the goal he suffered a pelvic contusion. he had to go to the hospital. he said he's fine, he'll play in the match saturday against netherland. fans around the united states and the president were excited. look at this. >> united states beat iran 1-0. u.s. 1, iran 0. >> and as fsor the team they ha a celebration of their own at the hotel. you can see pulisic embracing his teammates. there were even celebrations in iran after the u.s. win where many came to see their team as a

symbol of the regime that faced protests over human rights treatments for months. so joining us know, kobe jones. great to have you. what did you make of the moment? what does this mean for the team? >> first off, thank you for having me. i think this is an extremely important moment for u.s. soccer, for this team. getting through the group stage is probably the base of what you expect from the united states, but they've done that and they get to move forward. and now it's almost -- i can tell you from personal experience it's a sense of relief for the players. they can go into the second tournament vibe and try to push forward and have more success. >> can you talk about christian's role. he's attacked the game head on. he assisted on one goal, scored

yesterday's goal. came at a price because he's been injured. talk about his role and what it meant to securing this victory. >> i mean, i don't think we can overstate the role that he plays within the u.s. national team. he's a leader. he's the one that sets the example for everybody else on the team. and he's the player that was in the last qualifying cycle he was on the field when the u.s. did not qualify and go to the world cup. so he has it in his heart, that pain from before. so he's setting himself as the role model as the hard worker for this team and he's the one that has stepped up. he's pushed it beyond anything else. he's willing to sacrifice himself and that sends a message to the other players. if your leader is willing to do that, what are you going to do? he's the one that really is setting the tone for the united states going forward and getting

ready for the next game against the netherlands. >> following this online, and especially social media, it's blowing up when you watch the players consoling each other. you see the american and iranian players. it's amazing. these guys put so much into this and you have on top of that, not just wanting to win but the geopolitical part of it as well. can you speak to that? >> yeah. i mean, there is a geopolitical aspect of this. we know everything that's going on between the u.s., iran, within iran, the u.s., and the various issues. but when it comes down to it, we're talking about young men on the field competing for their countries. we saw it with the iranian player when after the game how he was devastated on the field. and the u.s. players, you know, sergeant and various others came up and actually consoled him.

there's an understanding that on the outside there's so many things going on, but it is a dedication to the game, it's a spirit of sportsmanship that happens on the field between the players and they leave everything else behind. it's all about that game and a feeling for the opponent, who isn't going on. >> cobi jones are you out screaming gooaall as well? >> i think i'm doing better than that, though, but yes. >> whoa! we won't give people your rendition of wake them up this morning. not unless you want to. >> thank you so much. authorities in china are cracking down on protesters but that's not stopping people from taking to the streets. plus this. >> you can hear the incoming rounds from russian artillery

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sides made minimal gains here. let's go to math thew chance fo an exclusive look. this has been going on for months and it doesn't seem to be ending. >> reporter: yes. in that area of bakhmut, the russians are trying to surround the town and it's been described as the hardest part of the front line with shelling and close quarter fighting taking a terrible toll. the brutal fight for bakhmut where ukrainian troops are battling russia's onslaught. these images are from the soldiers themselves. their commanders tell us dozens of lives are now being sacrificed here every day.

the road into town is heavy with thick smoke. explosions ahead force us to pull over before another slams into a building close by. >> you can hear the incoming rounds, the incoming rounds from russian artillery fire are really intensive here as we entered the outskirts of bakhmut. which is certainly everything we're seeing, everything we've been told is the most fiercely contested patch of ground in the entire russia/ukrainian conflict. >> quickly, quickly. >> reporter: so fierce we made a rapid exit, leaving the relentless barrage behind.

>> much of this battle is fought avoiding the artillery threat. in underground bunkers like these where local ukrainian commanders can respond to russian attacks. they're assaulting our positions from early morning till night he tells me, but the real problem is we are heavily outnumbered he says. but the innovative use of low cost tech is helping to bridge that gap. in another front line bunker we saw how commercially available drones are giving ukraine an edge. that's incredible. we've just seen an artillery strike in the position that the ukrainian drone operators have identified being full of russian. you can see russian soldiers running for cover as ukrainian artillery pounds their positions.

>> this is our position -- >> reporter: but battery commanders at the front line tell me they're now running low on ammunition rounds. that even guns sent from the united states are breaking under such constant strain. they need more of both, they say, if this battle for bakhmut is ever to be won. of course the high casualties they're suffering on the ukrainian side, it's reflected on the other side as well. remember the russians are plowing resources and man power into the battle for bakhmut they're making some gains but at a high cost. >> matthew chance from d knnipr ukraine. thank you.

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all right. welcome back to cnn this morning here's what's coming up on the program this hour chinese authorities are warning of a crackdown on the rare national demonstrations we've seen on the harsh coronavirus restrictions. also lava flowing from the volcano is coming within 4 miles of the highway on hawaii's big island. what if you can predict the risk of a heart attack or stroke with a single chest x-ray.

there's an artificial intelligence program that may be able to do just that. new this morning china cracking down on rare protests across the nation over the regime's strict covid policies as video emerges of protesters and police clashing in the streets. police in china increasing censorship tactics taking people's knphones in broad daylight. the zero covid policy includes mandatory quarantining of close contacts of patients, testing, and citizens confined to neighborhoods and apartments in some cities for months on end. >> selina wang you've seen her every morning on this program. she detailed her own experience

sharing just how invasive the protocols are. writing covid workers came in with a bunch of swabs, tested the sink, bathroom surfaces, counter tops. this is covid in china. >> joining susa journalist who worked in asia for 35 years, including here at cnn, maria resa, she has spent her career challenging corruption, including a website to fight the philippine government. she's here and writing, she has a new book "how to stand up to a dictator, the fight for our future" thank you for being here. >> it is so good to be here. >> we appreciate you being here. let's talk about the protests in

china and the crackdown and what's going on there, the chinese people showing up in the streets. can you put this in context for us. >> watching ukraine and china, both of the governments, russia, use information warfare first before conventional warfare and in many ways, china is at the forefront of control through data. which is creeping through the world. china has consolidated control -- a friend of mine, who ran apple tv in hong kong, he is in prison. he didn't expect that this would happen but the world has fallen off the cliff. >> one of the things that you say so brilliantly. you've been a journalist for so many years -- >> 36. >> you ran the jakarta bureau. >> i opened the jakarta bureau, the manila bureau. it's great to be here. >> you talk about freedom and the way you put it is, you really don't know what freedom is until you're about to lose

it. and look at china. and look at standing up. your book is how to stand up to a dictator. look at what some brave chinese people are standing up to now. >> yeah. but you know, be careful not to throw it out there because it is here. it is person to person in america, anywhere it is. let's talk china and control. tiktok, which has taken over. direct line. there's actually two different versions of the code of tiktok. one for china and one for the rest of the world. you know this. and the fact that the one for china, they know the dangers of control, of behavior, manipulation, which is what you see at the extreme here. and they make it so kids 14 and below are kicked out at a certain time. they have educational videos for them. a friend of mine calls it the spinach version. and then they exported the opioid version to the rest of

the world. >> to us. >> to you, to us. this is part of the control that we're living there. the novels, the science fiction we're here. it starts with data. the fact that social media platforms have essentially cloned each of us. they take machine learning, clone us and take ai to micro target your weakest moment and message. what you see on the video is the physical version but it starts online. because online impunity is impunity offline. >> what you said in your nobel speech. >> sorry i'm repeating. >> i think people need you to repeat because what you're saying is important. the tiktok thing is critical. we'll talk later on how the governor of south dakota has banned it from government workers from having people. when i talk to people in the national security realm, is this going to result in meaningful

change? the white house is focused on the fact they're protesting against the draconian covid measures. and also you see the protesters holding up the white sheets of paper. >> and there are costs to them as we saw the umbrella revolution, 2014, moving into here. and i was at tiananmen square, when it comes down, you'll see it, we should watch it as you're watching. but there are draconian responses to this. that's what the world must stop. look at what's happening in ukraine. >> listen, i think you said there's a lesson in there for all of us, not just china. this is all about as you said, information warfare. but american is not immune to it. >> you've already been targeted, right. the thousand page mueller report with the data pushed out, social media, the tools of gathering data on each of us now has

insidiously manipulated us. it's at a point where journalism becomes nearly impossible because the distribution system actually rewards lies. >> you were such a proponent of facebook in the beginning. >> i was. >> now you're fighting so hard ringing the alarm bells. their answer is free speech. i think about justice bran dice. >> when did he say it? >> 1927. >> exactly. >> free speech is more free speech. >> that doesn't work today. not in the age of lies. and frankly journalists bear the brunt of this. i've never been -- don, i see the attacks, you know, it's like we've never been at a time when we're so individually personally vulnerable. because information warfare uses free speech to stifle free speech. you say a lie a million times, you pound someone to silence. we have to get through this time

but also part of it is the failure of democratic governments to put guardrails in place, legislation on social media. this is coming up. so it started with american tech companies. now chinese tech companies have come in. sorry, i'll answer your question about china. the philippines is a strategic location, south china sea up for grabs, vice president kamala harris had just come from there. geopolitical power shift is happening as we speak. but it starts not with the conventional warfare you were showing, not with the repress sieve, 60% of the world is now under authoritarian rule, back to 1989 levels. it begins person to person. it begins here at home. the fact that january 6th happened, the fact that your identity politics has been targeted by russian disinformation, not to make you believe one thing but to just create chaos, violence, fear,

hatred. us against them. in that incentive structure, what happens to our kids? we create a world where it is impossible to have democracy. it's impossible, i'm sorry i could talk about this forever. >> no. we love it. i think the important that this whole idea about more free speech you said that doesn't work anymore. >> it's lies. >> yeah. you can't be nice anymore. you have to pound and led people know that we are in a very tenuous position especially when it comes to facts, truth, journalism. >> in september -- this is what i spent a whole book, i woke up at 5:00 a.m. every day to write because i feel like we're going off the edge. it will happen in 2024. if you don't have integrity of facts you can't have integrity of elections. >> thank you so much. we appreciate you joining us. best of luck to you. >> i just had her sign it for my kids in ten years when they can

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ten-year risk of death from a heart attack or stroke. this is promising technology for millions of americans who suffer from heart disease. it's the leading cause as you know of death in the united states. joining us to talk about this is dr. tara anarula. this could be game changing. >> it could. you said in the introcardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death for men and women in the country so the holy grail of cardiology is figuring out who's going to be at risk for an event like a heart attack or stroke. many times things are silent until they're not. until the day you have your heart attack and stroke. so we need a good screening tool to give somebody their prediction, get them on the road to prevention. the best we have now is something called a risk calculator. when a patient comes in my office as they did this week and said, dock, what are my chances of a heart attack or stroke in

the next ten years. take your information, your age, gender, whether you stroke, plug it into an equation and give you a risk score. the problem is we don't have all the data for every patient so we can't always generate the risk score and it's not always 100% accurate. enter artificial intelligence. how do we improve on what we have. artificial intelligence has come into the world of medicine since the 1960s. and cardiologists in many senses are leading the way when it comes to using this for heart failure prediction, tailoring drug therapy and now risk. >> as a hypo con deghondriac, ii have everything. does anyone go to their doctor -- >> let's talk about the chest

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>> andy scholes. >> he is on fire this morning. >> a little soccer flare to my intro. i like it. appreciate that. >> we have to talk about the rankings. because the college football committees may have an easy weekend coming up, actually. >> if the top four as is hold it would be an easy weekend. here's hoping we get chaos. for the first time in history, usc is in the top four. they have to beat utah friday night in the pac 12 title game. georgia remaining in the top spot followed by michigan up to number two after beating ohio state. the buckeyes are now five after the loss to michigan. then it's two-loss alabama who is sixth. we look at the weekend's schedule. georgia and michigan could lose their title games and make the playoffs. tcu is undefeated as well. but if they lose to 10th ranked kansas state that's where the

debate begins, would ohio state with one loss get in over tcu. if they both lose, would alabama somehow sneak in. a two-loss team has never made it to the college football playoffs. i know you're hoping, kaitlan, that both tcu and lsu were to lose. the tide, both their losses on the very last play of the game, they could easily be undefeated right now, and only missed the playoffs once in their history. >> it's hard. you brought your son to the alabama game this weekend. did he have fun? >> he had a blast. the iron bowl for his first college football game a good one to take him to. >> he you set the bar high. >> thanks, andy. alex mapple music this morn revealing the biggest songs of the year. justin bieber topping the

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