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first, oath keepers leader stuart rhodes and another high-ranging member of the right wing militia group kelly megs found guilty of conspiracy. the two face a 20-year maximum prison sentence on that charge. more on that in just a moment. plus on capitol hill today the house is set to vote on legislation which is intended to prevent a nationwide railroad strike after grave warnings from president biden on the seaver economic cons against q. enss of such a shutdown. they are also working on a deal to fund the government. we will be live on capitol hill with all the developments just ahead. let's begin with a significant win for the justice department, the founder and another leader of the oath keepers found guilty of seditious conspiracy. cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid joins us now. the most serious charge brought so far in these ongoing investigations of january 6 and not an easy one to prove.
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>> no, not an easy one to prove at all, and now these defendants they are all facing up to decades in prison and defense attorneys have signaled that they intend to appeal these verdicts and they see hope for their clients in that this was a split verdict. make no mistake, jim, this was a victory for the justice department as it was the first time in a trial related to the capitol attack where a jury found that the violence on january 6th was not a spontaneous disruption, but the product of an organized conspiracy. so let's break down exactly what happened here. rhodes, the leader of the far right oath keepers, the militia and one of his subordinates kelly megs were convicted of seditious conspiracy. it is the most serious charge that has been brought in any of the cases stemming from the capitol a takes. roads, meggs and three other defendants were all convicted of obstructing an official proceeding and several charges. the justice department were alleging that the oath keepers
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conspired to forcibly stop the peaceful transition of power. the lead prosecutor told the jury in his closing statements that rhodes and subordinates claimed to be saving the republic but fractured it instead. i want to note on the day of the insurrection rhodes remained outside the capitol but prosecutors compared him to a general overseeing his troops and, look, this trial was a major test for the justice department for their ability to hold accountable those who participated in january 6 and, jim, i think you're going to see this embolden prosecutors not only the ones working on the cases already in the pipeline, but expand that beyond to the newly appointed special counsel jack smith. they are going to see that here a jury was able to see this wasn't spontaneous and were able to hold people accountable for what they saw as an actual conspiracy. >> no question. one thing to indict, another thing to be able to convict in front of a jury. thanks so much. joining us to discuss is former federal prosecutor ellelliot wil williams. today to see you. as you know this was a closely
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watched trial, it was one that even rhodes' own attorney said was a fair one. the doj didn't get everything they were seeking but this is a major conviction. what is the significance of it in your view? >> it's significant bianna, really in the sense that seditious conspiracy is very rarely charged, the last time it was even charged with a case was 2010, the judge threw that out, before that in decades it had only been charged i think three times prior to that. one, people don't usually try to overthrow governments and that's a good thing, but number two, actually establishing that someone used force to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of a law is actually quite hard to do legally and so on account of the fact that the justice department established here that they could get a conviction on the seditious conspiracy charge is very big. and then i think beyond that there's the macro almost moral point that an attack on america ended in a conviction here. so even setting aside the legal questions it's just a significant moment for the country. >> good for you for citing that
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essential fact there, right, that folks don't normally try to overthrow the government or disrupt the electoral process in this country and here you have a case of a rare charge where they got a conviction. all cases are different, the evidence is different, however, there is a commonality between this case and the allegations against trump and that is that he conspired, right, with -- he and some of his allies, to try to disrupt the process of a peaceful transition and to overthrow an election. do you see any lessons here from the way this case was prosecuted for how the justice department might prosecute if they decide to indict the former president? >> look, conspiracies can be tricky, jim, only insofar as often the person who doesn't, let's say, pull the trigger is the one you're going after here and you have to establish not just -- so, for instance, that he thought he won an election and was zealously advocating on his own behalf but that he set out to break the law. and with respect to at least in
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this seditious conspiracy case here stuart rhodes it was clear to the jury that that extra level of intent, not just to do something bad, but to break the law, too. look, it could be difficult to charge the former president with any number of crimes because of this intent question that we've talked about frankly for, you know, a couple years at this point. but at the end of the day the person who actually committed the act need not necessarily be the one who is charged and convicted. >> elliott, as we heard from paula this will likely embolden prosecutors, this was the first of three seditious conspiracy trials starting this year, others are also going to be facing charges from the oath keepers and even the proud boys. what message does it send to those who are currently awaiting trial now? >> okay. well, a couple things. one, i think it sends a message to the people who were acquitted yesterday that they really skated by and could easily have been convicted here. this is the very rare crime in which the crime itself took place on national television and
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the evidence was all in text messages. if you read that indictment, it's all these guys texting back and forth about in effect how they want to overthrow the government. that could show up in these future cases as well and they ought to be scared. i don't say that often. it's just the evidence is there here. if the prosecutors do their job, who knows what will happen. >> it's a great point, too, because so much of it was public, right? public statements about what the -- at least the goal of this was. elliot williams, thanks so much. >> thanks, jim. in the next hour we are expecting the house to begin voting on a key piece of legislation aimed at preventing a national rail strike. it is one of several priorities for the democratic-led house ahead of a change in leadership and ahead of a change in party control. >> cnn capitol hill reporter melanie zanona is following all of us for us. walk us through the top priorities and what the focus is today. it's going to be a busy day there. >> reporter: absolutely going to be a busy day. first up in the house they're going to take two critical votes
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to avoid a rail strike. first they will vote on the deal struck in september but has since been rejected, that includes a 24% pay increase and better health benefits. and then the house is going to hold a separate second vote on adding paid sick leave. that's something that unions have been pushing for and the reason why progressives were critical of the deal as-is. all of that will then head to the senate, it is unclear if the senate will take up the paid sick leave portion, but both republican and democratic senate leaders are vowing to get this deal done. so really it's just a matter of timing which can be a little tricky in the senate. this is just one of several tasks facing congress and the administration during these critical lame duck session period. the other thing that they're trying to do is pass same-sex marriage next week the house will take up the senate bill, they passed that last night in a historic vote, now it's on its way to becoming law. and then congress is also racing to do an omnibus spending deal, a massive spending deal to fund the government by the december
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16th deadline. it's a heavy lift. that's something that takes a lot of work around here, but the holidays are usually a pretty good motivating factor to get people to get their work done and all four big congressional leaders, kevin mccarthy, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell left a white house meeting yesterday vowing to try to get an omnibus spending deal done as opposed to a short-term patch. we will see if they're able to get it done or if they need to buy themselves a little bit more time which tends to be the case around here. >> a rare outbreak of bipartisanship on capitol hill. sound the alarm. melanie zanona on the hill, thanks very much. joining us now to talk about all this is heidi przybyla, national investigative journalist for "politico." good to have you on this morning. >> good morning. >> that's no small thing, right? when you look at this, you've got a same-sex marriage, interracial marriage protection through the senate, got those ten republican votes, they're saying at least that they don't just want to have a short-term continuous resolution they want
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to have something omnibus which lasts longer, that takes away some of the republican leverage to hang over democrats when they take control of the chamber. do you believe that? do you think they can get to that bigger goal as opposed to a short-term goal on spending. >> they both -- when i say they i mean the leadership both have motivation to do this. on the democratic side they know that when republicans take over they will have a lot more leverage, the right flank of the party and they don't want them to use the funding -- this is kind of a leverage to shut down the government. we've seen this movie before, jim, ever since the rise of the tea party which is now really the maga wing of the republican party that this is one of their preferred methods of torture, john boehner would attest to that, that extracting spending cuts, whether it be over the debt ceiling or in these never ending spending battles would be a way to extract whatever they're trying to get out of leadership. so this is a way for republicans to head this off as well as
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democrats who don't want to see the government shut down, the republican leadership knows if that happens next year that when that's happened in the past it's been republicans who were to blame by voters. >> also, heidi, it looks like a rail strike will likely be avoided through legislation. we heard from speaker pelosi they will be taking two votes today, one to codify that legislation and that deal that president biden helped negotiate back in september, raised wages but not sick leave. the second bill does address sick leave. is there any chance that republicans can get on board for that to pass as well because passing both of those would be seen as a victory for president biden who was hoping to avoid coming to this point to begin with. >> this is probably the most intriguing tale of this holiday season. the answer in the house is they really don't need them. this is expected to -- both of them to easily pass the house. the bigger interesting part of this is what's going to happen
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in the senate. senator sanders has already said that he's going to block the broader bill if he doesn't get a vote on his amendment to create sick leave, the seven days of sick leave for the workers, but the interesting part of this is he's got some unexpected allies like senator marco rubio who he's seen huddling with on the floor of the senate yesterday, also some senators like josh hawley. look, in the past union bosses and demands from union bosses were seen as kind of like the boogie man of the republican party and here you have as the senate republicans are kind of going into this wilderness period over at least the next two years a lot of soul searching about how they want to reposition the party and surprise, surprise here you have them coming out in favor at least with rubio and maybe some others of these pro-union measures. yesterday senator cornyn said he thinks that there may even be enough votes for this to pass. so stay tuned, what happens in the senate, in the house, i
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think it's going to pretty much be an easy slide here. >> republicans forcing paid sick leave. interesting. given blocking in the past, attempts to establish that on a national basis. just quickly other big challenges is will kevin mccarthy get the votes he needs to be speaker? where does that stand? is it trending negatively for him in terms of vote counting? >> it's trending negatively, but, again, i feel like we've all been through these leadership battles before and ultimately you can't know until the end what's really in the hearts and the minds and the main motivation of these individuals and who would step up to replace him. does anyone think, for instance, that steve scalise wouldn't have an equally difficult sledding trip with some of the right frank. and in the end a lot of these guys who are making these threats really don't want to be in a position of leadership, they feel more empowered when they are blocking things and
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throwing sand in the gears of government versus having to be in those leadership positions themselves. so i think this is probably just a preview of what kevin mccarthy's life is going to be like over the next two years versus knocking him off of his throne, but, again, i am out of the predictions business when it comes to elections and including elections of leadership because anything can happen. >> even if he does get the leadership position it won't be an easy one to maintain. sort of a careful what you wish for there for kevin mccarthy. heidi, thank you. >> you're welcome. well, this just into cnn, the spanish national police say they are investigating after an explosion at the ukrainian embassy in madrid this morning. >> they say an explosive device was inside an envelope, officials are unsure if the explosion happened when the envelope was opened or when it was moved, the ukrainian foreign minister spokesman says the staffer was slightly injured, no one else was hurt. security stepped up at the
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embassy in madrid, we will bring you any updates on the story as we learn them. up next we are live in mississippi where more than 20 tornadoes were reported overnight causing white spread damage. we are tracking where tornado watches are still in effect right now. plus, were you watching? we were. u.s. pulls off a massive win to advance in the world cup to the breakout stages, not without an injury to their star player. man, if you saw that collision, what christian pulisic is saying about whether he will play on saturday. the prince and princess of wales arrive in the u.s. today for the first time in eight years. why they've jumped across the pond and what's on the agenda. maybe e it's perfecting that special place that you wanant to keep in the family... ...or passing down ththe family business... ...or giving back to the places that inspire yoyou. no matter your purpose, at pnc private bank, we will work with you every step of the way to help you achieve it.
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damage in greene county, alabama. roof and walls of an apartment complex torn off, although the majority of the tornadoes touched down in mississippi. the threat for severe weather as storms make their way through the south. >> we've been following this since yesterday for you. cnn national correspondent ryan young is on the ground in mississippi. ryan, what have you seen so far this morning? >> a long night for a lot of these crews who have been working this situation for several hours now. power crews are out here now trying to restore some of the power to this area. you said your team has had to rescue people last night because of the storm. >> yes. our first call that came in were rescue calls, people trapped, and responders, this is all volunteer area, they responded here, found this station that was out of service then, so by the time we got in there with other apparatus we were
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successful in getting some people that had to hunker down in their homes that were messed up. >> reporter: we're going to watch this direction. guys, you can see just how blown out this station s but one of the things that caught us off guard is the tornado siren got blown off its perch as well. it was working before. >> it was sounding, we had sound it multiple times last night so it was operational, but this was -- it took a direct hit. >> reporter: everybody in this area is okay at this point? >> yes, we had no fatalities no injuries. >> reporter: thank you so much. we will probably talk to you a little more but we wanted to show you guys this. look at that tree that went through this house last night. this was so immediate people said they heard the siren, it wasn't down and then all of a sudden they heard the big bang and the people who were in this house were able to get out luckily. as you heard before, there were no fatalities in this area, but the damage is widespread through little swaths because of how powerful the storm was. i'm actually going to turn you
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to the side right here, there is a pickup truck that's there, that's smashed in half. the house next door is smashed, the temperature also dropped here to 50 degrees this morning and so the woman who lived here actually had to borrow a jacket from someone else. you start to see people coming out and trying to put the pieces together. the tree cutting service just arrived here, but look at all the damage in that field that's over there. we're just getting a chance to assess this ourselves because when we arrived here early this morning you couldn't see a thing, all the lights were out. so you can understand the pieces are getting put back together but they are not used to having storms this late in the season so everybody is trying to wonder what's going to happen next and whether or not today there will be any more storms. guys? >> those poor people in that house there. watch those power lines, i see them on the ground. >> reporter: absolutely. this morning encouraging signs for the u.s. economy. new data shows the gdp grew
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faster than nearly 3%. this comes hours ahead of a critical speech from fed chair jerome powell. investors will be limping for any new indications of rate hikes to come. i'm laughing, christine, we were talking about this during the commercial break. what do you make of this? prior to these numbers we had been talking about stronger than expected retail sales, black friday, cyber monday and the question this morning was going to be what's the confusion going on amongst fed officials as to what their next move looks like and how quickly do they start to slow when you have numbers libeling this, that may change the calculus. >> it shows an economy still plugging along, it shows solid business investment in equipment, it shows solid consumer spending. the only weak spot you see here is in the housing market. all these fed interest rate hikes so far may be tipping housing into a recession but the rest of the economy is plugging along. we're going to get jobs numbers later this week that will
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probably still be pretty robust. here is the conundrum for this fed, so many on wall street want to hear the fed want to say, okay, we don't need to be raising interest rates 75 basis points every time, we want to -- >> taper. >> -- cool down that pace. how do you cool down the pace of rate hikes when you have an economy growing at 2.9%. 2.9% for a quarter pre-pandemic would be the envy of any quarter of any president quite frankly. the fed has been raising interest rates to cool these numbers, these numbers are still pretty good. if you look at a bar chart, first and quarter second red bars down 1.6% q1, that was what caused all of that recession -- look at how well the economy has snapped back from all that recession talk of two down quarters. >> what are you expecting now to hear from powell this morning as he takes in this information and also knowing that for the first time in a while you are seeing some dissent amongst his colleagues, fed governors. >> so i think he's going to
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talk -- inflation is still too high. inflation is still too high and that is issue number one for this fed. you have a job market -- the title, the subject for his speech is the labor market so we will hear what he thinks about the labor market and whether you can have an economy meaningfully slowing with the job market still as strong as it is. we will be looking for any kinds of hints from the fed cheer about whether they feel ready to slow down from the very aggressive paces of rate hikes. we have had six rate hikes this year, an unprecedented four of them in a row that were 75 basis points, just has never happened before and there is a real hope that maybe they will start slowing that pace and let all these rate hikes catch up to the economy and cool the economy without, you know -- >> putting it into a recession. >> into a tough recession, yeah. >> christine romans, thank you. good to see you. still ahead, big moment of triumph for the u.s. men's soccer team.
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. making a big run, snuck in behind, in the middle. pulisic scores! might have paid the price, but the u.s. takes the lead! >> i was screaming just as loud as that commentator there when he made that score the 38th minute. just an incredible play by christian pulisic. the u.s. men's national team moving on to the knockout phase of the world cup. the team laid it all on the line to capture a nerve-racking, nerve-racking indeed, 1-0 win over iran. as we mentioned, christian pulisic injured as he scored that winning goal. it was something incredible yesterday to just see play out there by team usa, jim. >> you talk about leaving it all on the field. i mean, he did. he threw his body into that strike there. he got hurt bad, right? taken out for the second half, had to be taken to the hospital. thankfully he is talking now about being there for the big
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match the next match round of 16 match against the netherlands on saturday. we hope so. cnn sports anchor amanda davies was there to watch it all unfold. like bianna was saying, i barely survived the last 180 seconds of that game, given how close the iranians came to tying this, right? but here we are. they broke through. what's the team saying? >> reporter: yeah, they were not going to be giving up, iran, without a fight, given what this tournament meant for them, both on and off the field. but there have been a whole lot of people holding their breath for the last 12, 15 hours or so after that moment with christian pulisic where he was taken straight from the field as you mentioned to the hospital. he watched the climax of the game in the hospital. he is such a crucial integral part of the u.s. -- this u.s. men's national side. he's been named their man of the
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match in their last two games. he is such a positive influence on the field. he scored that goal as we mentioned last night. we got the update last night from the hospital that he suffered a pelvic confusion. we did see those pictures of him back at the team hotel, but the update last night was very much we are taking it day by day. the good news, though, is the u.s. men's national team coach has appeared on cnn this morning in the last hour or so and things are sounding a little bit more positive. have a listen. >> he seems to be doing good, just spoke with him a couple minutes ago and what he can do on the training field tomorrow and hopefully he will be ready for the game against the netherlands. but in terms of his contribution to the group, you know, i've said all along when one of your most talented players is also one of your most hardest workers you know you are in a good spot and that exemplifies christian.
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>> reporter: christian himself says he will be there as involved, but the mood overall in this camp is so positive, so calm, so confident, that is what the coach has instilled since he's been in charge. four days to go now until they take on the netherlands. i have to say they are a team who want to make an impact. things certainly going as well for the u.s. as they can be at the moment. >> yeah. >> are you as jealous of amanda as i am for being there? >> oh, my gosh, listen, if i could trade places with you i would do it in a heartbeat. it is incredible and we are so proud of team usa and christian pulisic. some people were thinking he would get back on the field, but he needs his days of rest right now and we will all be tuning in saturday. amanda, thank you. all right. the prince and princess of wales
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will arrive in boston today for a visit stateside. they are going to be here, they will spend three days attending public engagements. on friday they will announce the winners of the earth shot prize in an environmental ceremony, it's the first trip to the u.s. for william and kate since 2014. it's not all business on the schedule. >> not all business at all. cnn royal correspondent max foster joins us from boston. it's always a treat to get you to come to the u.s., traveling with the royals, max. what can we expect to see from them today? >> reporter: well, there's three days of visit effectively, it's not a formal royal tour, but it's three days where they get to know boston, we're going to see them at various different events over the next few days, caroline kennedy will be a big part of this, but it all builds up to the earth shot prize which is about finding solutions to climate change and accelerating those solutions as well. prince william describes it as his super bowl, this is the big event of the year, something he always builds up to and it was
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inspired by the moon shot people from jfk, this was his hometown so that's why we are here. they are due to arrive a little bit later on. we will wait to see what the response will be. this is their first visit under the titles of prince and princess of wales and they say they are aware of the legacy of those titles, you know, from diana and charles of course but they really want to own those titles in their own right. so we're going to see how they are going to redefine themselves effectively under those titles in this visit to the u.s. they haven't been here for years, of course. >> so it wouldn't be the royal family without some buckingham palace drama. what's the drama following them today? >> reporter: it's a race around, fortunately, a very unfortunate one as well. there was a guest at a buckingham palace reception yesterday, it was about domestic violence, she is the black founder of a domestic violence charity, that's why she was there at buckingham palace, a senior aide goes up to her, repeatedly asks her where she's from. she repeatedly points out she
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was british but she was effectively interrogated by this senior aide who has since stepped down, but to give you a taste of this conversation, we've got a transcript from fukani and it says i am born here, i'm british. then the aide said, no, why did you come from? where did your people come from? when did you first come here? hugely frustrated she tweet add transcript of this conversation, buckingham palace unusually responded straightaway, said it was investigating this extremely serious incident and that this aide has stepped down. they have invited her to come in and discuss this. of course it comes off the allegations of racism that the duchess of sussex also leveled at buckingham palace. >> goodness. glad to hear they handled it so quickly. max foster in boston, thanks so much. still ahead, back here in the u.s., as idaho students prepare to hold a vigil to honor four classmates stabbed to death nearly three weeks ago now, still no progress, at least
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from the scene of the horrific crime as well. while there is still no named suspect officials are trying to express some hope as they're getting tips from the community. >> is there a chance that this crime doesn't get solved? >> what we're finding is that the information and leads and tips that we're receiving are helping us with this investigation and we really feel confident. >> tonight the university will hold a vigil honoring the four students killed, at least one family the loved ones of kaylee goncalves whose father and brother and sister appeared on this program, they are holding off on a funeral service. >> i haven't earned the ability to grieve the way that i want to grieve. i want to be able to have justice first. my wife's biggest fear, part of the reason we didn't have a funeral, is because she couldn't be guaranteed that that monster was going to not be there. you can't imagine sending your girl to college and then they
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come back in an urn. >> just horrible to imagine. joining me to discuss idaho statesman reporter sally krisic. good to have you back. i wonder if you could describe the scene on campus now because here we are three, three and a half weeks out since this murder, no suspect identified. there is a lot of fear on the campus, is there not? >> right. so students were actually given the option to finish the semester remotely because so many of them were afraid to come back. the campus is really quiet right now because many haven't, you know, i talked to one student who said he is watching several apartments, feeding cats, watering plants because al of his friends were too scared to come back. >> the police and part of this is understandable they're conducting an investigation, they're following leads as best they can, they're not going to share everything they find, but they've been particularly tight-lipped in recent days and weeks and i wonder do students there -- we've heard from the families, certainly they're frustrated, are students,
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members of the community frustrated as well? >> absolutely. you know, police seem to think there's not much cause for alarm, that there's going to be a second attack, but because they've given no reason why they think this, why they think it was just a targeted attack, you know, the community is skeptical. they are saying, you know, why should we believe that? give us more information, and right now people are, you know, carrying around protection because they are afraid. >> what kind of protection? >> you know, i talked to some people who have said they started carrying, you know, guns, started carrying around a knife. people are in this mode of am i going to have to -- am i going to be confronted with someone with a knife looking to kill me. >> lord. amazing to have to make those decisions. there's a vigil planned for this evening, a chance to honor the victims. what do you expect to see? >> right. so it's going to be a
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candlelight vigil, it will give the community a chance to come together as a group to mourn, you know, school leaders are going to talk, friends and family, you know, are expected to be there and i think, you know, the school -- just everyone left to quickly no one had a chance to come together and grieve. this will be their chance. >> the one thing police have said that they are focusing on an area around the household where this murder took place, about a mile long, specifically with any video that might have been captured in that area in and around the time of the murders. what are they saying about that? >> right. so it's an area south of the home, it's a mostly residential area and they're asking anyone with ring doorbell cameras, businesses with security cameras and an interesting thing is they're asking even if there's nothing on the video send it to us. it seems like they're trying to map out where didn't the killer go. >> right. so they're trying not just to
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identify any potential -- potential news from that video, but also where a potential killer would not have gone, right? sort of eliminate some paths in and out. >> right. so, you know, as they get more information, they've gotten over 1,000 tips and submissions, they are trying to narrow down more and more where should we be looking for his route -- or her route. >> let's hope they make some progress, the community deserves it. sally, thanks so much. still ahead, could a single chest x-ray help predict your ten-year risk from death from a stroke or heart attack? up next the promising study using artificial intelligence and that one x-ray that could save your life. our business get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp and d it only takes eight minutes to qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what t they could do. getrefunds.comom has helped businesses get over a billion dollars
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a promising new medical use for artificial intelligence, helping to spot the risk of a heart attack or stroke in advance. early research suggests the use of artificial intelligence could give doctors another way to predict the ten-year risk of serious cardiovascular events. this includes a heart attack or a streak, all from using a single chest x-ray. >> so much of medicine is based on information, and how soon you have access to information. this is early, we should note, but if this in fact proves to be helpful, what can it do for cardiologists? >> it's understand cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death for men and women.
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we don't have yet a tool -- we have a risk calculator, an equation, a formula, and it gives up a percent risk score we can tell our patients. the problem is we adopt always have the information we need, so how can we incorporate that to complement the ability to predict who might be at risk, appeared most important to get them on treatment, medication like statins or encourage them to make lifestyle changes. this study very preliminary, and it's not been published or peer reviewed, but it opens the door for us to understand could this conceptually be used. what researchers did is use a simple chest x-ray to try to predict if someone's risk. they took 150,000 x-rays and generated an a.i. modeling, and then they took 11,000 outpatients and applied that
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tool, and saw, does it correlate with those number of patients who went on to have a heart attack or stroke, and it did. the tool wasable to accurately match that. anyway when they compared it to the risk calculator, it correlated very well to that. when i spoke to one of the radiologists, he said it was interesting, we can cheek at a chest x-ray, what is fascinating about this is, he said you would look at some, and never be able to tell what it is that the a.i. is picking up on that then goes on to increase that person's risk. it's still a bit of a black box in terms of our understanding of how this is working. >> doctor, you were mentioning, probably hinting at why this is so helpful. if you identify the risk factors
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early, you can prescribe things that might save lives, like stattens. >> absolutely. we call this the holy grail of cardiology. so many times patients come in, can you tell me, what is my chance of a heart attack or stroke. i can't always give them a perfect answer, so to have another tool where i could help them predict and most importantly, as you said, gets them on the road to prevent, it's so cool in or roles as cardiologists, knowing that information could really save lives. the researchers are hoping this could be a widespread population-based screening tool. for example, many people go into the emergency rooms for many year with a chest x-ray. what if you left with discharge papers that said your chest x-ray shows you might be at risk, you should see a cardiologist. that could go a long way to reducing events and saving dollars as well.
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