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good evening, tonight, two big's legal setbacks for the former president, federal judge ordering it -- to give a additional testimony to the grand jury in the election. also federal appeals court, rejecting a need for a special master to -- stay in plainly, former presidents should not receive special treatment. i'm quoting from the opinion, and considering these arguments, or face with a choice, apply usual, test drastically -- for every subject of a search warrant, require about an unprecedented exception in our law for former presidents we
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choose the first option in other words, former president or not, the normal rules apply. steve mary joins us with more on this and the steve cipollone case. so sarah, what does this mean? the court ruling on the mar-a-lago documents, what does it mean if the doj and their investigation? >> well, obviously it's a big win for the department of justice, who had been arguing that there should not have been a special master in this case all along. practically, it could mean that they will get this whole mess of documents sooner than they would have otherwise. remember, they already have access to the roughly 100 documents that were marked classified. but there were thousands of these other documents that they want to use to try to make their case about how things were stored haphazardly at mar-a-lago. so now they could get them sooner. of course, the x-factor is, will trump appeal? we've seen him, his willingness to do so in many related cases. he earlier appealed something to do with this case in the supreme court, and he may ultimately decide to go to the supreme court with this question as well. we should note though that this appeals
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court that ruled against the trump team today, it has made up of three gop appointed judges, anderson. >> >> so, if he did want to slow things down, he could try to appeal to the supreme court? >> he could, yes. if he still wants to try to stall, he could go to the supreme court. he could ask for some intervention there. he could go back to this court, frankly, and ask for the entire panel to hear it so he can ask them to hear it -- although i'm not sure why he would do that, given the panel sort of sympathetic or possibly sympathetic republican judges he had. you know how they very clearly voted against him. >> we mentioned pat cipollone has been ordered to give additional testimony before the grand jury. the grandeur investigating the efforts to interfere with the election. he already appeared back in september, it was obviously before the special counsel jack smith was appointed to oversee the doj criminal probe. what happens now? >> well, that's right. you know, what we have learned is that a judge ruled that cipollone, as well as his deputy, pat philbin, had to go back to the grand jury and testify. now, again, this is all happening behind closed doors. this is a secret court proceeding and trump's team had argued that because of privilege issues, that they
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should not be able to answer certain questions before the gradually. now the question is, are these guys going to get swept in the granary quickly? or will they go there and answer questions, or will trump's team first appeal before they go back there? we do expect an appeal by the trump team, so we will wait and see how this plays out. again, this is all playing out behind closed doors, so we are learning this from people who have been briefed on the matter. >> just to be clear, this is a criminal granary probe for the justice department? >> that's right, this is a criminal granary probe having to do with efforts to overturn the 2020 election. remember, these guys were in the white house. they were around the former president, they were there when he was, you know, raising gains about trying to go to states when he was suggesting this potential coup at the justice department. they've obviously seen a lot. >> sarah murray, appreciate. it we want to get some perspective. now to enhance -- carrie cordero in elie honig. also cnn political commentator, david irvine. former trump campaign advisor. carrie, how helpful, in your view, is this ruling to the justice departments investigation going forward? >> i think the 11th circuit
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ruling is important in the case. what it did is i t basically said that the former president is not entitled to special treatment, that executed search warrants is a standard process for the justice department, for the fbi, when they are conducting an investigation. when that warrant is based on probable cause and it's approved by a judge, that there really were no strong arguments made by the former president, that is special master should be in place, and that he should receive any special treatment. so, i think the 11th circuit case and the opinion that was just issued really resets this case in terms of the way things normally would work for any individual who is the subject of a search in any investigation around the country. >> elie, how do you see the opinion? >> well anderson, first of all, this opinion is all that what we call jurisdiction. meaning the courts can't just do anything they feel like. and
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what the court of appeals today said is that the district court, in ordering the special master, went too far. that's not a thing that courts can do. you cannot interfere with the criminal investigation at this stage. and as a practical matter, what this does is it removes a roadblock or a speed bump for the justice department. it means that unless this case goes up to the supreme court, it gets reversey unlikely, doj can outtake all those documents that they seized at mar-a-lago and use them fully in their investigation. so, it will enable doj to carry on with their investigation in a speedy manner. >> david, in terms of the legal strategy, do you think it was a mistake now for the former presidents legal team to go through the route of requesting a special master? or if gumming up the works or slowing down the process was the goal, was that successful? >> yeah, so anderson, i think
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we've had this discussion before. i think that a president has one idea in his legal team has a separate idea. he's the client and i think, you know, they filed this suit. you know, facially they had a claim and it's been pointed out via the limits circuit, these three judges on the 11th circuit, they don't really have the standing to to do so for variety of recent. separation of power and others. i anticipate that the president's legal team will appeal, asked to be heard in -- by the entire 11th circuit, which low likelihood success there seems pretty slim. and then again, no appeal to the supreme court. i think that is a tactic we've seen before from the presidents orders in terms of just delay. i think that they will continue to delay until the absolute, you know, last moment they can and the supreme court doesn't take it up, i don't think the supreme court will take it up. but, you know, they will take it to the 11th circuit, run back, and see what they have to say. >> carrie, how long could it slow things down? the ruling by the 11th circuit doesn't go into effect for seven days, which obviously means the president has time there. >> right, so it gives him time to appeal. and so, then there
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will be a determination whether or not the justice department can go ahead and actually look at the information. so, there is, you know, some i think a little bit of ambiguity as to whether or not they can start looking at the information right away or whether or not they are going to have to wait a little while. i don't think there's any credible basis for the -- for the supreme court to take up the arguments in this case. and i think it's important to point out just how unusual the former presidents arguments were in this case. the normal time that an individual would challenge the results of a search and say that their rights have been violated is lynn when they've actually been charged with something. and so, the former president in his legal strategy really jumped far forward here by trying to make arguments that's constitutional rights were being abused in some way by the way the fbi handled the search. that just is not the way that normal investigations would work in any other matter. >> go ahead. >> i was just going to say, it's clearly a setback for the president in any way you look at it. >> elie, i mean, if the former president is in fact eventually charged with a crime, would he have another chance to challenge the search warrant than? i mean, the carries point. >> yes he would, anderson.
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that's precisely the basis for the court's opinion today. they say essentially, you are not special. they say, look, we have a couple choices here. we could say everybody gets a special master after a search, we don't want to do that. we can say nobody gets a special master after a search, which is the normal rule, or only former presidents. they say we are naftali not doing that. the way it normally works, anderson, is if there comes a day where donald trump or anybody gets indicted and they want to challenge the search warrant, at that point, the prosecutors will have to give them all the documents, all the paperwork that went to the judge and you can, and i'm sure if this ever happens, donald trump will challenge the search. he will say it was unconstitutional, they will say that the prosecutors did not establish probable cause, that the search violated his constitutional rights. and if he wins at that point, then evidence cannot be used against him. but that's the way this normally works. >> the fact that now the former president says he is running again for another term, i mean, there's been a lot of talk tha t
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maybe he thinks by announcing that that might slow down some of these investigations or at least complicate them and make them look political, do you think this ruling in any way affects his run? >> anderson, i think it's goin g to be tough to make that case when you had three republicans, the judges that issued this, the circuit judges that issue these opinions, are a bush appointee and two trump
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appointees. so, it's pretty tough to make that case and then obviously, a lot of conservatives believe that this case was flawed at the beginning because of separation of powers, you know, arguing that the justice, the judicial branch should be interfering in the executive branch's business. >> carrie, i got a dumb question for you, not that all of mine are not dumb, but when the judgment, on the u.s. district judge in this case, anthony buchanan, is completely overturned by a federal appeals court, is their career or reputation or harm to the district judge? like, the next day in the judges chambers or the judges, you know, coffee break room, or the other judges like, wow, that was lame? i mean, is there any blow back? >> in this case, it is unusual because it involves a former president. so, you know, there certainly could be the coffee chatter about it, but look, judges get overturned. i mean, that's how we have an appellate system, that's how cases and up going up to the supreme court. so, in this particular case, it's very high-profile, obviously. in my judgment and obviously in the 11th circuit judgment, the original judges opinion was not based on the law, it was not well reasoned. but judges get overturned. that is basically how the system is set up to work. >> you said that in a very nice way. the judge's ruling was not based on the law or reason,. carrie cordero, elie honig, -- appreciate, it thank you. coming up next, the georgia senate runoff. herschel walker's new campaign challenges and what the impact could be of democratic senator, raphael warnock's campaign closed. >> hello, atlanta! i'm back! i am back.
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>> former president obama tonight in atlanta. his president is underscoring -- how important control of the senate -- instead of 50 is to democrats. the difference might seem small, just one seat, but of course, it matters and nothing matters more than senator warnock right now than bringing out black and young voters. but president obama had to say tonight, former president obama. >> i know a lot of folks have been voting early over the last few days. that is a good thing. that is an encouraging thing. but you knew there was a but. plenty of folks have not voted yet. tomorrow is the last day for early voting. and then we need to get people out to the polls on tuesday. which means we've still got work to do. so on the other side, you've got mr. walker. wait, don't boo now. i told y'all the last
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time. can't nobody hear you boo, but they can hear your vote. all right, so you've got mr. walker. look, i was here last time. i think i made clear my thoughts on mr. walker. i had to acknowledge and, yo u know, some of you, you know, everybody here has pretty good home training, right? and so, you know, you're always reticent if you don't have something nice to say about
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somebody. you don't say it. so, i talked about what a good football player he is. but i also had that knowledge that i did not think he had. either the confidence, the character, the track record of service, that would justify him representing georgia in the united states senate. >> that event is now wrapped. the walker event is just beginning. cnn's -- is there in woodstock, georgia, for us tonight. so, you're there where the walker family. senator warnock event, where the former president obama has been speaking. how different are the strategies the two campaigns in this final stretch? >> so, we are seeing quite different strategies here. you can probably see behind me, representative -- of georgia speaking out during trying to warm up the crowd here in woodstock, georgia, fort
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republican, herschel walker. not necessarily the heavy hitters of the party here bringing out the crowd here from senator lindsey graham a little bit, then the candidate himself. we've seen an aggressive campaign from the incumbent senator warnock. again, bringing out the not-so-secret weapon of former president, barack obama tonight, on the eve of the final day of early voting. herschel walker has taken a much more relaxed approach, if you will. we are not seeing the same level of events throughout the time. of course, he took those five days off for public events in just a four-week runoff period. so, very different strategies. one very aggressive, one trying to seemingly hit as many of them as you possibly, can hang out as many big names -- herschel walker using many of the same -- lindsey graham, a familiar face to support of walker in many different events. and so, to hit 1 to 2 events a day. we are also looking, of course, at
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the money that is being spent. $77 million total in ads. but just the stark difference. democrats are 2 to 1 on this. more than that even. 52.9 million to 24.2 million. anderson, just to crystallized that, the candidate himself, rafael warnock, he has spent more than all gop spending combined at 24 point $8 million. so, spending activities, all of that more aggressive for democrats. >> tomorrow, as you said, is finally of the early voting. what are the expectations from the campaign, in terms of turnout? >> so, the campaign's voting rights groups, all of them expect tomorrow to be exceptionally busy. that may be something we've seen every single day this week because of that condensed for. only five days of mandatory early voting, which is, in part, why we're seeing those daily records being set. of course, on monday, 303,000 plus voters casting their ballots. that also means that we're seeing -- across the state and people basically trying to get into vote when they can. so, i do know that
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i've spoken to some democrats who say that while those daily numbers are very impressive, they are concerned that perhaps we're not going to see the same type of overall turnout during this early voting period because of the condensed format. this abbreviated, four-week runoff period. though they are confident that right now, democrats say they are seeing but the good areas that they are looking for turn out to vote. just at this event here, each one of the speakers has been encouraging these voters to get out tomorrow and vote. a lot of the people i've spoken to are attending though tell me they do prefer to vote on election day. and i know that voting rights groups, again, say they expect to see very long lines on tuesday, as more people are able to get to the polls. more than 1.1 million people cast their ballots through wednesday and they believe they are going to see another 200,000 plus votes that were cast just today, anderson. >> all right, danny gallagher, appreciated. thank you, joining us now cnn political hala -- jones. also cnn senior political correspondent, inside politics sunday anchor, abby philip. abby, you look at the stark contrast between to the campaigns. even these dueling events tonight. what does that say to you about the strategies of each team? >> yeah, i think it tells you a lot about where the
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expectations are for both sides. democrats are really hitting the gas on turnout, bringing in their biggest turnout geddert, a former president obama. and republicans are really trying to keep herschel walker out of sight. and perhaps out of mind for some voters who are not super comfortable with him and the things that he's had to say. i will also say, the money tells a huge part of the story. you know, there's been a huge democratic advantage in ad spending in georgia over the republicans, and i think that that says a lot about the optimism that i think democrats have, that if they really give it all they have, that they have a good shot of holding on to the senate seat. >> in a race like this that has been going on for so long and so many commercials, peoples minds are made up one way or the other, i assume. now it's about just getting people out there? >> well, i think that's true but also i think tonight is sort of like, you know, the pride of the community, president obama, and then the shame of the community. you
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talk about herschel walker, you talk to people in the grassroots level, you have a lot of people who are motivated to come out. they just feel embarrassed by herschel walker. they just think that it would be an embarrassment to georgia, an embarrassment to black people, an embarrassment to the country. and so, tonight you've got the pride and you see people have for president obama, then the shame. and those both are going to be driving turnout for democrats. >> do you think it's less about warnock himself than it is about those things? >> listen, there are people who love warnock and, you know, he has a real popular appeal. i mean, these folks, people love him. but it is bigger than him, it's bigger than him. also as you said earlier, it matters how many votes ahead they are when it comes to the senate. if it's even steven, then the committees are even steven, if they are ahead by one, the committee structures change and it helps democrats as well. >> abby, what does it say to that former president trump is
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not campaigning with walker in these final days? and, you know, it's lindsey graham who's out there tonight. >> yeah look, it says really everything. i think the biggest problem that herschel walker has is that there are a lot of georgia voters who are not particularly comfortable with former president trump. they do not think that trump represents them. those are the voters, almost 200,000 of them, who voted for the republican incumbent governor, brian kemp, and did not vote for herschel walker. so, they've got to really deal with that. by keeping trump out of the picture and i will say this, trump has spent so much time telling voters basically not to trust the voting process, not to vote by mail or vote early, and the last time around, that cost georgia republicans but their senate races. and i think that there is a clear memory of that among republicans and there has been a huge effort, frankly, to try to keep trump out of this race. >> you have been, if herschel walker is able to win, what does that mean for the trump wing of the republican party? >> i mean, if herschel walker wins, that is a huge
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vindication for donald trump and this is a handpicked trump candidate. there was nobody in georgia walking around saying, we sure wish herschel walker would move here from texas and run. that was trump's idea. so if he wins, then it's a vindication for trump. but if he loses, which, you know, that looks like where we are headed, i think it's another repudiation of the trump wing. not just necessarily trump, who knows what he's going to do. but the trump wing is further repeated. >> there's also some news today that president biden has former -- a major overhaul of the democratic presidential primary system. what does that mean? actually, let's take a look at this on the screen. we want to put it up. basically there should be no caucuses at all and for the first silver primaries -- more diverse electorate, they would go seconded order. south carolina, then a week later nevada, new hampshire, then on the same day, then georgia, the following week and week after that, michigan. now it's up to, what,
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the dnc to ultimately decide this in new hampshire democrats already blast the idea. is it something you think people in your party would support? >> a lot of people are saying hallelujah because, you know, for a party that is so strongly african-american and latino and latina, iowa, which is 0.001% black, why is iowa first? for caucus, it's so hard for working folks to go to a caucus. there's been a discontent inside the democratic party with you've got to win in iowa first. now, obama pulled it off. that is still discontent. but for biden to say that south carolina should go first, south carolina is where he won first. and so, he's giving them a big, big hug and a kiss. but i think it makes sense, given who the party is. michigan, georgia,
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nevada, you know, these are states that reflect more the base of this party. south carolina, obviously. >> abby, you broke the story. this would represent a big change in the nominating process. >> yeah, it represents really a huge change. one that a lot of democrats wanted and for all the reasons that dan described, i think biden putting his thumb on the scale in this way, laying out a system that puts south carolina first and followed by nevada, a heavily latino state, really tells you everything you need to know about what is going on here. he says very clearly in a letter to the dnc tonight that the party should never nominate someone who does not have the overwhelming support of black and brown democrats. and that is what this order really represents. one note about new hampshire, yes, south carolina is where biden won new hampshire. is this where biden lost by a lot. and they are upset tonight because they
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would lose their first in the nation primary status. but if you are biden, you're saying to yourself, i won the nomination and the presidency without winning new hampshire. really skipping the state of new hampshire. and i think that that is what is kind of playing out, partly in this order here. they want the states to represent not just the demographics, but also the politics of the democratic party. working class voters and black and brown voters, and also slightly more conservative voters in the south as well, anderson. >> abby philip, van jones, thanks so much. next up, we got a surprise head when we learn news about a friend -- we've spoken to for the past nine months about living through the war in ukraine is now in the united states with her family. i will talk to her about the war and her families battle here. with ukraine, the key advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. ♪ ♪ this... is a glimpse into the no-too-distant future of lincoln. ♪ ♪ it's what sanctuary could look like... feel like... sound like... even smell like. more on that soon. ♪ ♪ the best part? the prequel is pretty sweet too. ♪ ♪
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>> what's it been, like i think you've been here since mid november, what's been like as a family to be here in the u.s. and georgia? well, we are very big family now. i feel like a part of the big american family, that has four dogs and cats. and it feels safer somehow. first of all, the kids started to sleep in a separate room, they even follow sleep alone, they don't have nightmares anymore, they got scared recently because of the thunderstorm, and she started to pull out hairs again from her head. but in general, the healing process for children has started so we see that it was the right decision, and it was taken just a nine time, because children are very much traumatized by the war even those children who are still alive not injured they are all
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traumatize psychologically inventively this is something that the war is doing with our children in ukraine and everything. >> it's something the people have been through it don't think about we see kids be on trains and frightened children and warm war zones, but just a cumulative effect of living in kyiv. and even giving safety and seen everything, there are so many kids going through this trauma. it is one of the horrific parts of war. >> there are many parents who stayed out because their parents cannot live, -- because that some important work to do, they're simply afraid of leaving because it's a big step into the unknown, many of them don't know english language, they tried it leaves a normal lives, any second up
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bomb could fall on your child and kill your child and you cannot really protect your child. when a child is looking at you, and like it's terrible feeling. >> so before we left kyiv, were hiding in the corridor and these missiles were flying above our apartment block, -- about their herman block, and the windows were shaking like this it is very scary. >> you're being hosted by an american family, and i want to bring in mary who is that family that's hosting you called uniting you through united for ukraine. i understand you reached out to elena, what made you decide to get involved. >> well i've been watching elena since the beginning of the war on her youtube channel which i found out about on your
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program, so compelling to hear about a mother facing the situation, is very interesting, i learned a lot. and somewhere along the way, i thought, if they didn't want to leave, what would they do? i kind of started researching and i found out about uniting for ukraine. then a while later, a few months later, alina was talking about packing a backpack. before an evacuation came up for the first time and i started thinking, you could do this. i mean, a little voice in my head said, you can be part of this. and so, i researched the program, i wrote her an email, and i sent to myself at first. i sent it to my email. talked about it with my husband that night and he said, we can do it. and as you heard, it got to her right at the moment that all these things were happening. and that's how the whole journey has been, you know? from the time that we said yes, she said yes, we want to do this, it was five weeks until we pick them up at the airport in atlanta.
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worked hard, but also things fell into place. i mean, there were amazing things that happened. an apartment in krakow became available through a wonderful women that i met through my niece at the university of georgia. i mean, just these amazing things happened. and now olena has helped with bringing one of her very good friends there through the same program and we're using the same channel again. so, we're really excited to promote this program. >> yet, we're going to put up information about the program on the screen during this segment and afterward. olena, what was the first meeting like with mary and her husband and her family? i mean, it's such a complete culture shift. from war to peace. >> by the time when we came here, anderson, i already felt like mary's my sister because we kept in touch so much, you
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know? it was like, i think it was like trust from the very first email when mary emailed me, like, i haven't heard about this program before, you know? i didn't know that it was possible. i didn't know that somebody on the other side of the planet can care for someone. and spend their money on someone who they do not really know. but mary emailed me and said, look, this is my house and she just sent me videos of her house. she said, where i can leave, she said she can sponsor as a participant. she sent me the documents for the program. so, she did all of this research, she just showed it to me and i'm like, okay. later we were in touch, like, every day. and every day mary was telling me, you will stay alive, your kids will come here, i see you already sitting, you know, in my living room. she put the photographs of my
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children on her refrigerator, on the second day. but it's very, you know, it's something. >> we are we were a team, now where family. >> mary, i know that olena and her kids are wearing traditional ukrainian outfits. i believe you are as well now. >> yeah, this was a lovely gift that olena brought me when she got here and we also have the ukrainian trident necklaces that we wear for -- every day. >> and olena, what's your plan in terms of do you know how long you want to stay, can't stay? what do you want to do while you are here in terms for of for the kids? -- the program allows two years. so, we're just playing it by ear at this point, you know? we are hoping that soon, they can go to their home in ukraine, but we are
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prepared to assist them with whatever they come along, you know? >> well, my hope, back to ukraine as soon as possible. i don't feel like taking my children back to the danger because i think they've been through too much there. i want them to have their childhood. -- i want them to be children. but i really hope that the war will be over soon, yes? because it is impossible that this fight is still happening. -- but online, you know, 90 years ago, russian killed millions of ukrainians by starvation. that was a genocide and it was replenish. the evil comes back, no evil's come comes back and we see the genocide, it's obvious. this is a genocide of ukrainian people and ukrainian receives a lot of help and are very grateful, but still, it's not enough help, you know? for ukraine to defeat russia. the terrorist state of russia. we need airplanes, we need tanks, we need real weapons just to stop the genocide. this is what we need, you know? and all this, like, tensions and uniting for ukraine, helping refugees, this is awesome. i'm grateful. but what we really need is to stop the war now. so, people with children do not have to leave ukraine. so, people don't have
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to die our sacrificed, you know? the war just has to be stopped by force because otherwise, it will still go on and go on. and every date, more ukrainian lives are taken away. >> olena and mary, i appreciate talking to you both. and we will check in with you both. i want our audience to know, if you want to learn more about this program, uniting for ukraine, a program that helped bring olena and her family here to the united states as refugees, you can go to dhs dot gov forward slash ukraine. you can see it there at the bottom of your screen. dhs dot gov forward slash ukraine. up next, breaking news on the investigation of the stabbing deaths of four university of idaho students, what police are saying about who else may have lived in the house where the students were found.
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>> there's breaking news tonight in the investigation into the murders of four university of idaho students. they tell cnn that there may be another previously unknown person who lived in the house when the students were killed no suspect, though, is in custody, as authorities have been given mixed messages about
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the attack. our reporter has the latest. >> for the first time police tell cnn there may have been six people living at the house where four university of idaho students were killed. until now police have only released information about five of the roommates. three of the victims, and two other roommates who were not armed. a fourth victim, ethan chapin, did not live at the home. of four snowstorm for the moscow police department tells cnn, investigators are aware of a sixth person, who could have potentially lived at the residence. that person was not at the residence on the night of the murders. unemployed with the property management company for the home tells cnn that six people are listed on the least, but they would not release the names. it remains unclear if the six person lived at the property at any point. we asked police if they have found this potential sixth roommate, questioned them, and cleared them as a suspect.
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all they could tell us is that they continue to investigate anyone who potentially has information about the case. kayleigh got elvis's mother tells cnn, quote, kayleigh had never mentioned that they were looking for a sixth roommate. if there was a sixth person on that lease, i didn't know about it. but she also said she had never been to the home and didn't know the other roommates besides kaleigh's best friend and victim, madison morgan. because of his family among those at the universities candlelight vigil where hundreds of students came together to honor their fallen classmates. >> they shared everything. they would get into the same apartment together. and in the end they died together, in the same room in the same bed. >> veronica joins me now from moscow, idaho. police have already cleared the other two surviving roommates. does it tell us anything that they didn't come out and clear this potential sixth person on the lease? >> anderson, it's hard to say
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because like so much during this investigation the peak were vague in their answer to me, but they did say this person was not home at the time of the attacks. we did reach out to other people connected to the home, but we have not heard back. so we don't know if this person was living at the house currently. but we do know from the leasing company that there were six people on the lease. >> i appreciate it. coming up, a cnn investigation, lawsuits are only decades long scandal involving an environmental disaster and a major u.s. military base. into health, and wellness, and fitness... i tried everything with diet and exercise, and nothing worked. there was just kinda this stubborn area on my stomach. but coolsculpting worked for me! coolsculpting targets, freezes and eliminates treated fat for good. no needles, no incisions. discuss coolsculpting with your provider. some common side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort and swelling. you've come this far... coolsculpting takes you further. visit coolsculpting.com
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working accomplish two new may be eligible for a significant financial combination. >> please give us a call. >> you've probably seen the commercial, lawyers lining up to help that threatens to return for a slice of a potentially huge money pie. huge, because the water at this vast marine base in north carolina it was contaminated over 30 plus years ago, by an off base dry cleaners, leaky storage shades, and chemical dumping. 1953, to 1987. >> potentially how big is this? >> over 1 million people were likely exposed to this toxic water during that time period. what does that mean in terms of damages? it is off the charts. >> greg sexton's mom saw one of the commercials, their first inkling that camp lagoons water might be to blame for what happened to him. >> i sent the summer there in 1977, i was eight years old i was spending time with my father who is in the marines. he was a sergeant in the marines.
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when i was 17 i was diagnosed with what is called a williams tumor. >> he had kidney cancer, one of the disease is now potentially linked to those chemicals, in the water, on the base. a base where and johnson lived with her marine sergeant dan where she met her future husband in high school, where she gave birth in 1984. >> she did not bring her to you immediately, now? >> they did not. i guess they're trying to prepare me for what she looked like. >> and baby -- live just seven weeks, aged 18 and horrors into a horrific decision to let her daughter go. >> i looked at my husband and he just dropped his head, and so i looked up at the doctor and said we, just let her go. >> birth defects also now potentially linked to those chemicals in the water on the base. here is the history. in 1980, tests found that water is highly contaminated.
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1981, hot water highly contaminated with other chlorinated hydrocarbons. solvents, the most contaminated wells were not closed for four years after further testing. in february 1985, dry cleaving solvent was measured at 43 times the current epa limit for drinking water. here, and the terrorist, it houses enlisted men and their families. the base commander sudden them all a letter. they -- had to be taken off line because minute trace amounts of several chemicals have been detected in the water, no health warning, just a request to reduce domestic water use, because supply was now limited. apparently, a mass health warning did not come until much later, 14 years later. >> the marine corps barracks, the barracks that was one of
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the area was the water was tainted >> large sections of the base used by officers and enlisted alike, were affected. and our steel after 6000 or so clients what rank were you when you are exposed to the water camp lagoon? 96.3% of respondents say they were enlisted 3.7% were officers, worth noting there were always more enlisted men then officers on base. >> an act of congress passed in on august allows marines in their kin to file civil claims. >> some simple acknowledgment would be my wish for everything moving forward. >> the navy has six months to process their claims. >> they've received almost 5000 claims as of today. they have not yet done anything about any of them. >> do you think any of the claims he filed so far will be processed within six month window? >> as of today i do not. >> and if not, claims could end up in a courthouse in the eastern district of north carolina.
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>> what litigation could take years to even get inside the courthouse. >> it really could. >> i think that they are too worried about how to defend themselves and then focus on what they should be doing to make these lives better, of the men and women who are suffering today. >> rather than it being, me it could've been the water that i consume, and the government could be responsible for what i went through. my ex-husband went on to remarry and have a couple more children. and there was nothing wrong with them. just wet ahead to be me. it had me. the other kids were fine. >> she joins us now. has the military commented on the situation? >> anderson, the navy unit is claiming it would not give us an interview, citing ongoing claims litigation, but they say they are in the first phase of handling some of these claims. they can say they have not actually adjed
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