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again, because we are just four days away from the final election of the midterms. the senate runoff in georgia pinning george warnoff against herschel walker. now democrats are holding their breath until tuesday waiting to see if they will win a 51 seat majority. plus two of former president trump's top white house lawyers testifying today to a grand jury in a criminal investigation to on construct the peaceful transfer of power. pat cipollone reportedly testifying for more than five hours. five hours is a lot of time to answer questions. you wonder how many times you can have a fruitful conversation about pleading the fifth in five hours. and yet, we know the biggest moment for the for the world

cup, at least for team usa is yet to come as the underdogs take on the netherlands tomorrow. talk to someone who knows all about being a world cup champion, one of the biggest stars ever on the champion team, brandi chastain is with us. tonight ashley alison and scott jennings join me, and cnn analyst alex burns. glad to have you all here on a friday night. you're probably experiencing some dejavu. for election night or election season for georgia for it being a balance of power issue, and you would think people would say, we have been here before, seen this movie, move on. no. the opposite is happening. we're talking about record numbers of people turning out, even though, scott, they don't have a big ticket person meaning a governor or a full ballot. they've got one election and they're still turning out. what do you make of it? >> a lot of money has been spent on this race by both parties,

and both parties i think have all their biggest all stars as it relates to voter turnout. democrats certainly do, and brian kemp, the governor, has put his shoulder to the wheel for herschel walker. so everybody is all in on it. so i'm not surprised of this. this race kind of became nationalized even among all the other senate races, it became one of the two or three highest profile things. >> even before it was in a runoff capacity, it was a big one. >> i also get the feeling georgians are relishing their status as some of the most important voters in america. they're one of the closest purple states in america. so maybe the voters there are excited to be high profile now. >> i mean, they are the place. think about where obama is always going now, and you've got michelle obama did not do a lot of campaigning this first cycle,

and she had that call that was there where she was reaching out and telling people to vote as well. and you have on the flip side, senator lindsey graham, cotton who turned out. more people like rick scott and beyond. there's a lot of interest, but i suspect for different reasons. on the one hand, for republicans, it's, this is the balance of power for the committee sake, and democrats, a different philosophy. what's your take? >> i do think georgians are excited about being paid attention to. i think in every race it should always feel like that. every voter should feel like their vote matters. i also think this is some forecasting for 2024. so what happens in this runoff, 2020 folks were very sprieds -- n surprised that the state flipped blue. can it happen twice? if so, when you're starting to

look at a map for 2024, you start to make decisions about how you staff up in that state, whether it's biden or whether we have an open field for democrats. i think republicans are -- i'm not one, but -- >> you're welcome to be in the club, in the group. >> well, that's a friday night invitation. are you going to take it up? i think so. >> i think i'll pass. >> she's terrific. we would love to have you. >> i'm flattered. >> i might drop at some point. if you want to join me, that's fine. >> let me make my actual point, though. i think for republicans, there's the termination on candidate quality but what does it mean. i think there was strategy putting a black man against another black man here, and if it doesn't pan out well -- if you're going to do it, put a qualified black man to put up against raphael warnock. >> i think they were asking why

was he not in places like georgia, talking about president biden campaigning, and he mentioned he was going to be in boston tonight having a fund raiser. of course you know the prince and princess of wales are there. we don't have sound because in a fund raiser they don't let you in with cameras. but in a fund raiser tonight, president biden called walker a different breed and said he doesn't deserve to be in the georgia race. and i wonder how that will ultimately pan out. what do you think? >> it's a variation on a line we've heard from joe biden a lot of times. these republicans these days are a different kind of cat than your dad's republicans. it's really a boilerplate for him in a lot of ways. but i do think it's interesting he's touching that race from boston. you were saying on the lead in that sort of all the biggest players in both parties are there. you were talking about all the surrogates going into drive

turnout. the leader of the democratic party is not there because it would probably be bad for the democratic incumbent running for re-election. and donald trump is not there. brian kemp is the republican who herschel walker wants to be seen with. there are a whole lot of other democrats, wluing barack obama, who raphael warnock is happy to be seen campaigning with. right now, joe biden is not a popular man in the state. i do think that to ashley's point about how this is sort of a preview of 2024, i think it's going to be a pretty good temperature check on if georgia is a swing state to stay. i think it might not answer the question of whether that state is ready to break hard for one party or the other where even if the democrats do continue to win in these senate races there, i'm not sure how encouraging that is for biden specifically. >> especially after the red wave

did not materialize. the fact that he's still on the other side of the ten-foot pole that maybe you shouldn't come here. meanwhile, on the other side of the ten-point pole, who won reselection reacting to the idea of the different breed. i know it's his commentary by a different cat, and maybe it's the way he speaks. but there is some dynamic at play that has a bit of a cringe factor when you're talking about the idea that race has cast a very big shadow on the choices being made between these two candidates. how does that play for either of you? >> when i read that before we came out, i stopped on that word. we don't have audio of it or video, so reading it on paper, maybe it would sound a little different. but i paused on it. i wondered if it was going to make people feel uncomfortable because this is -- >> you wonder. >> this is an old white guy talk about an african american male.

i stopped on it. he doesn't deserve to be in the race? he won a primary. he's as qualified as anybody to run. doesn't mean he's going to win. but doesn't deserve to be in a race? what does that even mean? >> president obama didn't say those exact words, but remember there was that moment yesterday -- and i'm going to play it again because everyone is talking about it -- the vampire transition, listen. >> since the last time i was here, mr. walker has been talking about issues that are of great importance to the people of georgia. like whether it's better to be a vampire or a werewolf. in case you were wondering, mr. walker decided he wanted to be a werewolf, which is great. as far as i'm concerned, he can be anything he wants to be,

except for a united states senator. >> the idea of what he deserves or not, it's a different take, but it's the same concept. >> that was a great line. he landed it perfectly. i think it's not that no one deserves -- herschel walker is not articulating a clear policy agenda. he does have some questionable things in his past. to the biden point, i don't assign malicious intention to it, but the point is that people are saying herschel walker was selected because he's a black man who won the heisman that could run the football and he would take direction but not have an intention or -- >> direction but not initiative. >> and not positions that would be unpopular with the republican party, not because he doesn't believe it but because he's a yes guy. i think that was the breed is why folks might be a little cringe worthy. >> to your point, the idea of deserves or not, alex, there's a

new poll out tonight. there's a runoff election on tuesday because it was that close. look at this. even tonight, the choice for runoff. 52%-48%, that's a pretty narrow lead which has us where we are now waiting for tuesday to see what happens. collectively, it's being talked about by the former president, why still so close? >> i think georgia is still a senator rights state that a democrat can win unt the right circumstances. it reminds me a bit of the way virginia used to be for so many years before it broke so strongly in the democratic direction where a democrat can win by a little, and a republican can win by a lot. i don't think there's any scenario -- i think republicans could nominate the worst candidate ever devised in a lab, and i don't think raphael warnock would have a chance of winning by five or six points.

herschel walker was not designed to win the senate race. >> he stood in line four to five hours only to not cast a vote because -- is that what we're talking about? >> yeah. and i think the point lieutenant governor duncan's decision not to vote in that race is reflective of i think actually a lot of constituents to barack obama or joe biden are speaking to there are people who just kind of find herschel walker embarrassing and don't necessarily feel comfortable going out and don't actually feel motivated to go out and vote for him. >> and yet we have record turnout. stick around. we have more to talk about here. it's the final election night of a surprising midterm season. so join us. coverage starts right here on cnn tuesday at 4:00 p.m. eastern. be sure to tune in. and look, while georgia and the

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so tomorrow is the big day. the u.s. is set to play the netherlands at 10:00 a.m. eastern, and there's some good news for u.s. fans who are concerned about one of the team's star players. he was injured unfortunately while scoring that game-winning goal against iran, well, he's cleared now to play in tomorrow's game, and i'm thrilled to have my next guest here to talk about all this. brandi chastain was the 1991 and 1999 women's world cup champion and a u.s. olympic women's soccer gold medalist, and she joins us now. i'm thrilled to have you on. people were buzzing on set, is she here or not here, and i said, she's remote, and they went, okay. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry, everyone. but we all know you because we

were so thrilled about that moment in 1999, but i wonder tomorrow in this really important matchup, how you think the u.s. men's team is going to perform? >> i think they're going to be outstanding. they've had an outstanding tournament thus far to get through the group stage and to have not given up a goal in the run of play is outstanding. it's very difficult to do that. i feel like their confidence is very high. they know who they are and what they're capable of. it's a young team, but honestly, i believe it has a lot of veteran qualities even in their youth. so i feel they're feeling quite comfortable. now, you're playing one of the better teams historically in the world cup in holland, but this is a team -- and it's a team that hasn't lost in 18 matches, and they are quite good, they play around the world. but i don't think this team

fears anyone, so i feel like this match is going to be -- as this world cup has shown -- full of drama and emotions and ups and downs, and we're going to have to play at least 100 minutes. >> i mean, a fearless underdog that's going to leave it all out on the field is my kind of match to watch. and also, although netherlands is known as this really big power house, i understand that they have been experiencing a bit of a flu outbreak, and this is not that i am hoping they have sort of one arm tied behind their back. i want a legitimate team for the u.s., but their coach did give them a day of rest. i wonder how that plays out. with the adrenaline pumping and you're in the mindset of a world cup tournament, does the day off help you? >> you know, honestly, i don't think it's either one of those things.

it could be good, and it could be just an unfortunate circumstance. i think what teams and players now are really used to is having to be agile and adaptable, and that was one of the greatest qualities of our women's u.s. nationals team, and the fact that the world cup is not in the regular summer months as it normally is and it's in the fall months, these players have had to adapt as well. so the dutch side, that's going to be a big deal. sometimes honestly, a day of rest is just what the doctor ordered. what i'm hoping is they come out with the strongest lineup possible and we match their physical play, their tactical style, and we find our comfort in the midfield, who has done great this whole tournament in mckinney and our captain right now tyler adams, who is amazing. and that we need our forwards

and we get some goals. and i think that we could put them under pressure. >> i got to tell you. i have two young kids. i don't know if a day of rest will help me or make me feel like a zombie most of the time. i got to keep going and keep my eye on the prize and maybe coffee at the end of the road. this is an important time because every time they're winning, it's not just the idea of a camaraderie, this is a title nine team, and you have earned the right to have these split and divided, and the farther they get -- it's already $6.5 million and they get further and further, the prize gets bigger and bigger, what's the impact for you and the significance of that knowing this has been a hard-fought battle? >> well, i think this conversation about pay equity has been going on for four decades when the nationals team was started. this is not something that's

happened over the last seven years. so obviously, i'm thrilled that the team has pushed forward and created the conversation and then pushed it farther and now we have a signed cba that allows this pay equity to happen. and i think the men's team is actually quite -- they're a tremen tremendous ally for the women's team. but today we're talking about the men's nationals team and the opportunity they have to further the game in america. for all of us, we want to celebrate them. i think to some degree, they have kind of been in the shade of the women's nationals team, and they shouldn't because they are good enough and they're going to compete until the very last whistle, and they are talented, and i want everybody here and everybody around the world to see that because soccer is living and thriving here in america, and i want it to be

even bigger, so i hope the best for them. >> well, i tell you, moments like this, watching what's going to happen tomorrow, hearing the camaraderie, and can't help but think of the iconic moment from 1999 that everybody thinks about. look at this. first of all, everything about this moment just brings me to a place of just -- i'm so in awe. but i got to wonder, when people stop you and realize it's you, are these selfies a whole other ball game now? are they like, hold on, kneel down. i wonder what they're asking. >> i have to tell you the interactions i've had for the last 23 years have been phenomenal. i am utterly tlild to meet someone who's in the stadium. i want to know where they were sitting, i want to know what they were feeling. i want to know what they're feeling now when they see that

moment, when they talk about it. how has it changed the way they look at women's sports or women in business or women leading the way. it was such a wonderful moment, very genuine, very organic, very relieved. that was a big, big moment in terms of just -- getting past china was incredible. two amazing teams, and someone had to win at the end. >> might as well be you. >> yeah, might as well be us. but what has happened since then i think, we've catapulted the game of soccer into a different stratosphere, and we see it with our women's nationals team, and now we get to celebrate our men's nationals team at this world cup. >> well, i think when people are sitting and watching, they're feeling pride, the feeling of being triyumumphant, and we loo forward to seeing them tomorrow and cheering them on.

>> well, thank you. i'm wearing my crest proudly. let's go team usa. >> let's go team usa. let's get a bobble head to match. there you go. i see it. well, it's going to be a big day on saturday, everyone. and today, it was a big day at the u.s. district court in washington for wildly different reasons. former top trump white house lawyers testifying to the january 6th criminal grand jury. just how significant is their testimony to the investigation? frankly one of many. subaru retailers have supported over seventeen h hundred hometown charities. (p(phil) have i witnessed and seen the impact of what we dodo? you bebet i have. (kathryn) we have worked with so many amazing causes and made a difference. (vo) by the end of this year, subaru and our retailers will have donated over two hundred and fifty million dollars to charity. (brent) it's about more than just selling cars. (phil) the subaru share the love event going on now.

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there's news tonight of the many investigations involvesing the former president donald trump. two of his top white house lawyers testifying the doj's criminal grand jury investigation and investigating efforts to obstruct the transfer of power as their investigation nears its deadline and still considering the possibility of criminal referrals. here with me now, elliott williams and scott jennings and alex burns. let me start with you, elliott, because it's a pretty significant moment that the former white house lawyers are testifying in a criminal grand jury. speak to the significance of this moment in a time when we used to think about things like impeachment as never really wanting to ever happen, the idea of no one being above the law, the white house internal memo of a doj about whether to indict a sitting president was also a debate. we're in a whole different world

now. >> and i think part of the problem is there's a little bit of investigation fatigue. this idea of because of the multiple impeachments and constant lawsuits against the former president, that people sort of have -- many people have become desensitized to it. this is profound. number one, you have senior white house staff testifying before a grand jury, and you have lawyers testifying before a grand jury after being directed to testify because the objections that they were raising in testimony just didn't really stand -- >> stop there. let's unpack that because the idea that lawyers in general are testifying in front of a grand jury about notably contact they've likely had with somebody that they are providing legal council is already odd, but then you have the notion that they were directed to do so. >> a couple things. there's a third layer that they're also white house staff. so there's executive privilege questions. so a court has ordered them to

testify on account of the fact that it's just important testimony to get. so it legally, politically, historically, it's just a profound moment. i'm with you on this, scott, all the investigations over the years leading up to this have desensitized people to how profound it is right now. >> when you think about the fatigue, there are people who are legitimately fatigued and people who would like you to be fatigued. who would like you to be exhausted saying we have a new committee coming january 3rd. let's move on. some want to move on to have tit for tat investigations. others want to move on to other things. the january 6th committee has got wrap up. they have to have a report. the laundry list of things congress has to do between now and january 3rd now, expanding. how significant and how much people pay attention to this report? >> well, i think the january 6th committee has a pretty good

record of drawing attention to the big check points in its activity so far -- >> but that's in tv, not a report. >> well, sure. but it's up to them how to rule that out and when and what their tactics are to draw the material. having said that, the burden is, as it's been all along, on them to deliver the goods in a way that makes it worth paying attention to. if it's just the material we've seen before compiled into a couple hundred pages, i don't think it will have an impact. look. the phase of this process for legal accountability for the people who were involved in whipping up an insurrection, that process has mostly moved to beyond the january 6th committee. the testimony we're talking about today is way more important than the final, final act of that committee. >> there's some political fatigue. i hear from a lot of republicans who are tired of carrying all these bags. see some of the polling coming out, desantis rising against

trump, even people saying they have kind feelings towards trump but are ready to move on and look in a different direction. i think people are getting tired of it. and by tired of it, i mean just tired of the grind of it all. i mean, this has been going on for so long, and you throw on top of it, you get a flat announcement for his presidential campaign, a crazy dinner with these nuts that there's no good explanation for. >> you have to narrow down the nuts. >> kanye and this fuentes character. and you've got reasonable alternatives rising who look like winners who aren't going to force the average republican to have to go to work or the pta meeting tomorrow and defend whatever donald trump's doing. so this is all happening at a really rough time for him. i got to tell you, i mean, still quite -- man, alive, they are

struggling right now. >> another issue i think the public doesn't have an issue between what's a state investigation, what's a private investigation, what's somebody suing the president, what's congress investigating the president, and what are the very serious charges the president might face because the justice department the looking at him? and each of them in isolation is quite serious, in particular, the federal ones as you quite know and we've talked about on here. i think it's just confusing for people who don't live in this world. to the point about a thousand page report, and i think having worked for elected officials, you can make the public care about a thousand page report that the public isn't going to read, a lot of people aren't going to read it. >> by the way, the mother report was bound, you could buy it, people were tuning in. but there was a piece i wanted to point out speak about trump and the baggage, they say he's

embrace extremism as he seeks to reclaim the white house in 2024, and there's a moment where he's expressed support for riders behind the january 6th attack. it was last night for capitol rioters in a video for a fund raiser for a group that assists families for those charged in the riot. i want to play for you what he had to say and get your reaction. >> patriot freedom is what it's about, and that's not happening in our country. people have been treated unconstitutionally in my opinion and very, very unfairly, and we're going to get to the bottom of it. >> how is this playing, alex? >> well, i think it's playing -- first of all, it's not a new tune from the former president, right, this notion that the rioters on january 6th are the real victims here.

we've heard it from him before quite a few times. >> but this is after the oath keepers. >> i'm not playing down the gravity of what he's saying. i'm saying the trajectory that his postpolitical career is taking has been pretty clear for some time. i think his standing with the country as large or standing within the republican party sort of reflects the general lack of interest and how many republican voters out there, honest to god, want the 2024 election to be about that argument, right? there's certainly some of them, i don't think it's the majority. is it a critical mass in a primary with a lot of candidates in it, maybe? that's what would scare me. >> are you scared? >> if we nominate -- i said it on election night during the midterms. i'll say it again. there's no path in my estimation for him to win a national election. he did get more votes in the

first two times he tried. has it gotten any better for him since he lost to joe biden, since this midterm, and if you're an average american and you're like how were these rioters supposed to know they weren't supposed to storm the capitol? nobody wants to carry these bags when there are viable alternatives that give you everything you want, the fighting spirit, take on the media, fight for our values and against the world culture, but you're not carrying these ridiculous bags anymore. people are reached their limit. >> i would say real fast, i do think this is where the results of the midterm elections are so important. reall remember weeks before the midterm elections, are the democrats too obsessed with january 6th. whatever you think that is, democrats didn't pay a price for being obsessed with january 6th. seeing how the elections turned out for candidates who aligned

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big changes could be coming to democrats 2024 primary calendar. the rule-making arm of the national committee voting today to approve president biden's proposal of a new 2024

presidential nominating calendar. if it's approved, it would mean that south carolina would become the first state to hold a primary. nevada and new hampshire would follow days later with their primaries being held on the same day followed by georgia and then michigan before super tuesday. back with me, let's talk about the significance -- cnn put out a tweet earlier today saying so long, iowa. the dnc has approved the white house plan to put south carolina to the front of the line of the 2024 calendar. call it the presidential biden re-election protection act. it's counterintuitive in a way, though, because normally the primary schedule or the path you may have had to victory the first time, you might want to duplicate it so you have maybe the same assurances. is this smart strategy or is it just not necessarily about biden but more about what he says is a

reflection of america? >> i think that this is a good idea, and this has been a conversation in many communities for a very long time. when you think about the democratic party, the question is like, why iowa first? it's not a very diverse state. it doesn't really capture all the different communities that are a part of the base of the democratic party. and primaries are supposed to situate you so that you pick candidates that are farewell in the general election. i think by going to south carolina that is a southern state that has a larger black population, it shows democrats are trying to extend their map. nevada with the latino population. now, did joe biden fair well in south carolina and did it actually shift the balance to be able to catapult him into getting the democratic

nomination, yes. it's been a conversation going on for the last 20 years since i have been in politics. >> this is coming after a week when he said he wanted to remain in leadership because the south had to be represented. it's also a time when just this week a few days ago, the democrats voted to have as their leaders, not white men, which is the first time it's happened, and he's making history in his own right. in terms of how this plays, what's your reaction, scott, in terms of how this may impact the rmc's endeavor? >> i don't think it well. i interpret it as a couple of things. first, it's great to have the white house, i think this is great for joe biden. obviously south carolina saved his campaign. so that's number one. number two, iowa got what they deserved, at least the democrats. my recollection is the last time

they had a caucus, it was a complete and utter disaster, and there was confusion, and it was poorly run. anyway, so i think -- i'm not surprised at all. i don't think the republicans are going to overreact to this really. the republicans' biggest issue is how are they going to treat trump and whatever demands he makes on the party? he's not an incumbent president, but he's going to want to be treated like one. how is the party going to react to anything he would ask for that advances him. >> i mean, this is a proposal, right? they have voted on it, but they still have a long way to go before it's implemented. you still have two states saying i don't think so. nevada requires it to be there for primaries. they have some explaining to do. >> i think it has a situation to be uncomfortable for democrats because if new hampshire does move itself to the front of the

line, then you're going to have the standoff between the national democratic party, the dnc, the white house can be and that does tend to send democrats to the congress speaking out against the white house. so there are potential costs involved there for biden that do not exist in iowa. there used to be an argument to be made this no, iowa doesn't look like the country, no, they don't run a tight ship when it comes to organizing a fair election, but it's a swing state, and it's important the democrats can compete there. the people of iowa have spoken that they are not terribly interested in what the democratic party is selling, and i think it makes the breakup that much easier. >> thinking back to 2020 for example and how iowa was impactful, and people think about, for example, president obama before he was elected and secured the nomination, the impact of, say, in iowa on the trajectory, two places like south carolina.

there's almost a debate going on in terms of did iowa make obama or did south carolina make it possible for obama, there's all these conversations that are e pete itself now. >> sure. i think democrats who for many years who would say privately, not publicly, that some of the most irksome things barack obama did was protect hell out of iowa because it was responsible for his own rise. but, laura, that was the last thiem iowa played an arguably decisive role in making someone the nominee of their party in either party, right. it was not mitt romney who won iowa in 2012 it was not donald trump who won iowa in 2016. it was hillary clinton in 2016, but by this much, and it was embarrassing for her. so that idea that iowa picks

presidents is flaerting to new hampshire, but iowa is not doing a whole lot of picking presidents lately. >> in 2020, it was pete budavich. stick around. i do like the picking corn thing. i like corn. i'm just going to say about that. use it someplace else. but lava, let's turn our attention there instead because lava is spewing in hawaii, and the flow is few miles from a very major highway. we have the report on the ground next. try vicks vapostick.

lava from the world's largest active volcano is edging closer to a major highway on hawaii's big isle. >> reporter: the nighttime glow of oozing lava, you have to pull over to properly admire it.

>> it is the middle of the night and you are out here. why? >> this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to experience this. and we decided to come early in the morning so we wouldn't have to sit in the traffic. >> reporter: having hopped from oahu to here, they came to respectfully honor the eruptions. >> it is all beautiful to us. we pay huge reverence to this. it is very culturally significant to us. it's a big deal. >> reporter: a sight made even more alluring with the sunrise which brought the crowds to all saddle road. officials turning this into a one-way street allowing passers by to stop and let the views seep in. >> that keeps them from stopping on one of the main highways connecting one part of the island to the other. usgs state officials ware lava flow, while slowed in recent days, is inching closer to cutting off this highway. it is within three miles now.

the other worry, not up on the ground but in the air. those are acid gases. officials monitoring the level saying it could become toxic for residents and visitors. mauna loa is the second of the five volcanos currently erupting. kilauea still erupting after damaging home. >> we brought them over here and we gave it as an offering. you come with respectful. >> reporter: many hawaiians see the potential path of destruction as simultaneous creation, surfacing from this. the world's largest active volcano. with the eruption continuing at its current pace, officials say they should be able to give folks up to two days notice should the lava make its way into that major thorough fare cutting into the highway. they say when it comes to lava flow, there is no forecasting.

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