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hey there. i'm victor blackwell. welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> and i'm bianna golodryga. good to be back with you. >> good to have you. >> today the u.s. supreme court justices took up a case that could reshape elections in the united states. at issue, the independent state legislature theory. now, it would give state lawmakers nearly unchecked power over federal elections including the ability to gerrymander voting districts and change voting rules. >> allies of former president trump promoted versions of the theory during efforts to overturn the 2020 election. now, the case before the supreme court started as a fight over gerrymandering when a north carolina court struck down a congressional map that it called illegal and partisan. cnn's supreme court reporter ariane devogue is with us now. let's start with these oral arguments. what did we learn? >> reporter: just out of court, and they took over three hours. and as you said these republican lawmakers are asking the supreme court to take up this
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long-dormant legal doctrine that had been brought back to life by supporters of president trump. they basically interpret the constitution to say that state legislatures cannot be constrained by state courts when it comes to voting rules in federal elections. think about that for a minute because it would really give a lot of power to these state legislatures in the areas of voting i.d., for instance, absentee ballots, even partisan gerrymandering. and the case came to the court because a north carolina supreme court struck down maps that had been passed by the state legislature and these republican lawmakers, they raced to the supreme court. and in court today it seemed very clear that the conservative justices were going to embrace at least some version of this theory. we know that the ones to the far right would embrace it all, they really think that they should adopt the entire theory, but key will be chief justice john
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roberts, amy coney barrett and brett kavanaugh. those three looked like they wanted to put some limits on a broad ruling and they really will decide sort of the contours of future elections. and of course the liberals in court were furious. they said that if this is adopted it's going to cause chaos on the ground and it's going to lead to rogue legislators. take a listen to liberal justice elena kagan. >> i think what might strike a person is that this is a proposal that gets rid of the normal checks and balances. legislators, we all know, have their own self-interest. they want to get re-elected. and so there are countless times when they have incentives to suppress votes, to dilute votes. >> progressive groups and liberals are really worried about this case because they say there's no way to really make it narrow. even if chief justice john roberts and the other two try to do so, it's going to invite more
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legal challenges down the road. they say that that's going to bring more of these cases to the court and it's going to change electoral politics going forward. >> yeah. a potentially consequential case to say the least. ariane de vogue, thank you. top democrats in congress are celebrating senator raphael warnock's election in georgia. his win gives democrats their 51st seat in the senate. warnock defeated republican herschel walker by more than 95,000 votes in a runoff. it is the final, yes, confirmed final race of the -- >> are you sure? >> let's hope. 2022 midterms. >> warnock, who grew up in public housing, became the first african american elected in georgia to a full senate term. >> i am georgia. [ cheers and applause ] i am an example and an iteration of its history.
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>> yeah! >> of its pain and its promise, of the brutality and the possibility. >> herschel walker's loss marks the latest rebuke of trump-backed candidates by swing state voters. cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox is here with more. so lauren, senate democrats seem relieved and thrilled. explain the impact of that 51st democratic vote now. >> reporter: well, chuck schumer, the majority leader, doing a victory lap earlier today during his press conference, making it clear that this might be just one race, one vote, but it makes a huge difference in the u.s. senate. and that is because over the last two years committees have been tied, that means every time they wanted to advance a nominee that was controversial or just had democratic votes, anytime they wanted a subpoena they needed republican support or it took a very long time on the floor of the senate to advance nominees and legislation. this makes it a lot easier for them because suddenly they do have a majority in those committees. it also makes a difference for
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how schumer is going to do his job because he has a little bit, and i want to emphasize little bit of a margin now. before he had to have every single democratic senator in lock-step if he was going to pass democratic-only legislation. that has now changed. there is a big difference, though, this next congress for chuck schumer. and that is the fact he is not going to be looking across at the house of representatives at nancy pelosi at his fellow lard. instead he's going to be looking at a republican-led majority. and he told us earlier today that he does want to work across the aisle. here's what he told me. >> i think a good number of the non-maga republicans realize that if they follow a maga direction they're going to lose. and so i think there's going to be a real imperative for them to work with us. we'll have to reach out. >> reporter: and this of course is going to be a challenge for republicans because kevin mccarthy is still chasing votes to be the next spaccer of the house of representatives. he's got to keep his right flank happy and that equation is going
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to make it so difficult for republicans and democrats to pass some of those must-pass bills through the united states congress. bianna and victor. >> lauren fox for us there on capitol hill. thank you, lauren. >> joining us now, cnn senior political correspondent abby phillip, anchor of "inside politics sunday." and cnn political commentator alyssa farrah griffin, former trump communications director. welcome both of you. as victor promised us, this was the last lerks at least this year. so abby, on that note, we have now seen raphael warnock win four elections in two years. clearly he is not an anomaly. and that raises the question of what that makes of georgia. can we call georgia a purple state? because on the one hand you have his wins. on the other hand, every other election this year went to a republican. so what does that tell you about where voters stand in georgia? >> yeah, i think no one is more happy that this is all over than georgia voters, who withstood
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really a historic amount of ad spending in this race over the course of two years fighting over two senate seats. but you know, to your question, bianna, look, i think when i talk to democrats they believe that georgia could be a purple state. it has the potential to be. these senate campaigns over the last two years have demonstrated where that potential lies. it's in the suburbs. it's among the diverse electorate, increasingly young and increasingly diverse electorate of black, latino and asian american voters. and so there's a lot of potential there. but you're right. the reality is that georgia still has a lot of republicans in that state. 48% of the electorate voted for herrtial walker. a candidate who even republicans believe was deeply flawed. i think that tells you a lot about the fact that it's just -- partisanship is playing a huge role here. and democrats now have four
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years on the senate side to figure out how to lock in some of these wins because it's going to take probably about that amount of time to really move things more in the direction of the purple state territory. >> alyssa, this is not a binary choice. i'm asking for what is the primary driver of the outcome in this question. is this more about what warnock and democrats did or about what walker and republicans did not do in this campaign? >> it's a little bit of both. so governor kemp, to abby's point, outperformed -- obviously beat stacey abrams by eight points. then the lieutenant governor won his race, a republican, by five points. but then of course last night raphael warnock pulled it off. so i do think it's trending to being a purple state. but ultimately it comes down to the poor quality of the candidate that my party put up. herschel walker was not qualified to run for senate. excellent football player. put him on the field. but this was not a man who was ready to govern by any means. you clearly had a large number of split ticket votes with brian kemp performing at the level that he did.
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and i think also, do want to give credit, though, raphael warnock ran a good campaign. it was disciplined. i was actually advising republicans in the 2020 runoff. he wasn't nearly as disciplined and on message as he is now. and frankly he's one of the biggest rising stars for democrats. >> he's a first-time politician. this is his first run-in and four wins in a row. >> clearly a lot more money went into this race than on the republican side. abby, one thing that really sort of surprised us, i mean, the bar is really low, but pleasantly surprised us was the concession speech that we saw from herschel speaker. i don't know that many people expected to hear from him. what we did, given the rhetoric that we heard surrounding the campaign. if we have the clip, let's play it. >> i want you to believe in america and continue to believe in the constitution and believe in our elected officials most of all, continue to pray for them. i want to thank all of you as well because there's no excuses in life. and i'm not going to make any excuses now because we put up one heck of a fight. stay together. continue to believe in our
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elected officials. always, always cast your vote no matter whatever's happening. >> so can we take any solace in that given that he was a trump hand-picked candidate and he was in line with trump on so many maga-related issues and here unlike trump he said that this was a fair election, he said that there are no excuses, he said trust your elected officials and the constitution. square that with what the former president said about the constitution just a few days ago. >> yeah. i mean, look, i think it is a good thing that he did that. i think that is what we do expect and what we should expect from people who run for office in this country. but it signals to me that even herschel walker understands that the party is over for election denialism. it was really resoundingly defeated at the ballot box. and there's -- the one person who is really left at the highest levels who is still pushing this is donald trump.
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and it hasn't really worked for anybody else. so i think there was at least an acknowledgment of that by herschel walker. and you know, i can't -- i don't know about the constitution bit of it. i think republicans in general believe that you should stand by the constitution. democrats believe that too. but will that mean that a herschel walker is throwing trump under the bus? i will wait to see that actually happen before determining that that's what he was trying to signal. on the other hand, i also think this is a man who has been humbled and chastened by this experience. it was incredibly difficult. he was put through the ringer because of his own conduct, i should be clear. but it's not an easy thing, what he experienced, all that spotlight. and i feel like you saw it there in how he gave that concession speech. >> so as abby says, aliyssa, maybe the verdict is in now on election denialism. but what does this mean for
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trumpism? let's put up the slate of trump-endorsed candidates in the battlegrounds, in the swing states. all of these people lost, one after another. tudor dixon, bolduc, doug mastriano, mehmet oz. all the way down here. and these are the senate candidates. we're not mentioning dan cox in maryland, other gubernatorial offices. what does this mean for trumpism? >> well, it means that voters are rejecting election denialism. a good thing. good for democracy. i caution to go any further to say that it has massive implications for donald trump. and i say that because many of these were very weak candidates. they were people he hand-picked based on their loyalty and fealty to him, less based on their experience. but donald trump still controls a large portion of the base, and i always caution folks, we've seen many, many times that we've said he's over, he's done. time will tell. he's the only announced candidate right now. he's still polling ahead in a number of polls for the republican front-runner. but it shows the limitations on running as a trump candidate. perhaps he can do it. perhaps that may work for him. though it hasn't worked for him since 2016.
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but it's certainly not working when trying to be replicated. >> abby, we heard a bit of a gracious side of chuck schumer today when he was celebrating this election and now having 51 votes in the senate, 51 democrats, that is, by saying that he would like to work across the aisle in a bipartisan way with republicans and asking republicans to at least if not turn left not go far right. is that just wishful thinking at this point, or do you think that we could possibly see a change in how these two sides work together? >> i think that's largely going to be up to the republican side. in part because the democrats still hold the presidency and republicans are the ones who have to decide whether it's more important to them to resist biden, to push back on biden, to stall a biden democratic agenda, or to work with the other side. and i think that, you know, democrats are very incentivized to get bipartisan deals done because when you look at the last two years, despite all of
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the ups and downs of the biden agenda and build back better and what did and didn't happen, there were a lot of bipartisan things done. and at the end of the day when they took that to voters voters decided that was apparently good enough for them in spite of how bad the economy was and how uncertain that was. so if you're chuck schumer, the lesson he takes away is that if you can do that again for the next two years it sets democrats up in the better position. republicans now have to decide what they do. >> yeah. and not only in the senate but obviously in the house as well, where i think bipartisanship may indeed be wishful thinking given the state of things there and the fractiousness we've seen in the party. abby phillip and alyssa farah griffin, thank you. well, donald trump's lawyers hired an outside party to search trump properties for any additional classified documents. a new report about what sensitive material was found in a storage unit. up next. police say they've busted a plot by far right supporters to
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cnn's kara scannell is here covering this for us. what more do we know about this "washington post" reporting specifically that there had been two marked classified documents found? >> yeah, so this new reporting from the "washington post," this has been a quick-moving story today as we've all been learning a little bit more about this. so the "post" is saying that in addition to bedminster and trump tower, which we have reported, they also searched this storage locker, which is according to the "post" a federal storage locker, so something that gsa would have controlled and would have been a place where they directed some of trump's materials from an office in northern virginia to go to. so according to the post reporting when trump's lawyers hired people to go in and search these locations they discovered at least two documents that had markings as classified. and according to the "post" those documents have been turned over to the department of justice and the fbi, which have been investigating this. of course it comes amid all of this tension over how cooperative and collaborative trump and his legal team have been to this original subpoena that dates back to may. >> and a judge did ask them to continue to look because the
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national archive says there's still some outstanding documents they believe the former president still has. >> right. this tension has been carrying since more than a year when the national archives first kind of initiated this saying we don't believe we have everything. so the judge and a federal judge in d.c. has been overseeing a grand jury. put it upon the lawyers to say can you come back and tell me that you've searched everything, that you've done this exhaustively? and you know, these -- this material is all still part of that original subpoena. so there's a question of have they actually and plied with it? and of course doj didn't think so. they initiated that search at mar-a-lago. it seems they're trying to work out some other way here to determine whether everything has been turned over. now, our reporting is that the trump legal team had offered the justice department to come in & observe their search at bedminster but doj said no, which it would be unusual for them to go and observe a search of someone that is not their own agents. >> all right, kara, stay with us. i want to bring in david
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aronberg. he's the state attorney for palm beach county. this storage unit in west palm beach, right, kara? >> yeah, the search is in west palm beach. >> it's there where you are. where i used to live. dave, at what point does the deference here end? if there are government secrets out there that the national archives believes the president still has, that they have to go and get them instead of saying hey, look around and tell us if you find some. >> yeah, victor, and we miss you down here in west palm. the deference ended a while ago because that's why the feds were able to convince a judge to give them a search warrant to go into mar-a-lago, because they didn't believe that donald trump had complied with the subpoena. and they always believed i think that there were perhaps documents at other properties. well, the trump people brought in a very well-respected lawyer named chris kise. he suesed to be the solicitor general in florida. and he said we need to work with the feds, produce everything we
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have. and trump didn't like that advice. so they put kise on the sidelines. this is a guy they were paying a $3 million retainer too and they continued their combative approach. and now here we are. you have a federal judge saying you need to keep looking. and so now and only now donald trump hired an outside firm that found additional documents in a storage facility. >> okay. so then walk us through this because from the reporting doj chose not to take up this outside firm and their offer for them to at least watch as the residences had been searched. now that we know that at least two items were marked classified do you think that this will trigger a search warrant from the doj? because we haven't seen an additional one yet after mar-a-lago, correct? >> he yes, correct, bianna. this is exactly what chris kise feared. this is why he gave the advice to voluntarily work with the feds. but now it's too late. now they've recovered new documents. and yes, it will provide the
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feds with the ability to go to a court and say we need another search warrant, let us search bedminster and all the other properties. it's not enough that trump hired an outside firm to do it themselves. it's not enough that trump is saying hey, we'll do it, just come and supervise it or you can do it while we're there. no. the feds don't work like that. the time for negotiation is over. and they could go to a court and say -- get a search warrant and we're going to come in at 5:00 a.m., make everyone stand outside in their pajamas while we do the search ourselves. >> and kara, let's remember that the credibility, especially on this investigation, is kind of weak for the trump attorneys because back in june there was an attorney who said we searched mar-a-lago, there's no more classified information here, and up until we got this reporting from the "washington post" there was no evidence that there had been classified information found at these locations that were searched. >> right. and remember, they've been in this whole back and forth over the special master and trying to
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review these materials, which while their investigation's been ongoing that certainly sucks a lot of air out of the room as they're trying to figure out even what documents they can look at and what they can see. another important component of this is that's the reason why part of this investigation is obstruction of justice. it's not just the handling of materials. it's that they are concerned that there has been an intentional effort to obstruct this investigation and not provide materials. when you start to see other things popping up, other documents somewhere, that certainly is not a good thing for the trump team. >> all right. you'll continue to follow this developing story for us. kara scannell. dave aronberg, i know you miss victor down there. >> i miss you all too. >> thank you, dave. thanks, kara. all right. officials in north carolina hope to have power restored to everyone impacted by the attack on two electrical substations. and the fbi is still investigating, looking for suspects, trying to determine a motive. we'll get into that ahead. and harry and meghan's new
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other conspiracy theories. >> one report says a former german lawmaker who is now a judge was also involved. cnn's nic robertson and cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller, they're both with us now. nic, the scope of this policing operation is stunning. what was uncovered here? all right. we're having an audio problem with nic. so john, let's come to you. >> sure. >> bowian bianna mentioned a qa influence, qanon-like. explain what was seen, what's happening. >> well, this group has been on the radar for a long time, which is why when you see the scope of last night's raid 3,000 police officers across a wide area of the country, arrests also in austria and italy. why the big show of force? their prior contacts with this group have involved searches and the seizures of lots of weapons. and the plot involved the idea of a coup to take over a building, take over the
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government. so very serious. but to get to the core of your request, this -- you know, we have neo-nazi groups here. we have sovereign citizens who deny that the government is legitimate. we have conspiracy theorists who believe the world is run by a deep state corporation. this group combines all three into one group. they don't believe that the german republic is legitimate government. they subscribe to all the conspiracy theories about the deep state and all that comes with that. and if you look at their anti-vaccination, anti-covid things, when they demonstrated at the reichstag, the german parliament, they stormed the steps, very reminiscent of january 6th, tried to take over the building. hundreds of arrests. >> and nic, i believe we have you back with us. as we said, very reminiscent, you take out germany and you could put in the united states here given what we've seen over the past couple of years. what's also disturbing is that
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the amount of weapons that were found among these men. we know some of them had military training, but german gun laws are much stricter than those in the u.s. so how do they get hold of all these weapons? do we know? >> it's not clear how they did it. they were planning it. the group formed sometime last year. some of the members were formerly in the german military. they had a very clear intent and mainland europe it's not impossible to -- well, not impossible, it is relatively easy to peck up weapons in mainland europe. there are criminal gangs that will sell them. this ideology, again, as you say, similarities. they wanted to attack the bundestag. the interior ministry in germany described them as having violent fantasies. these conspiracy ideologies. they had clearly, from what we understand from the german
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authorities, already set out a plan to not only storm the bundestag violently, potentially causing death and injury. they had decided already who would take the key ministerial positions and they were going to set up a parallel institution running the army. so this was a complex plot that was thwarted that could have been very dangerous. 52 people is the number of people the police set out to pull in earlier on today. 25 we know they've got so far and they're saying, look, the investigation here still has a long way to go. 150 different properties raided. that tells you the scope here and the amount of material that police are going to have to go through and to put together and answer questions like exactly how did they get those weapons? >> yeah. thank goodness that this plot was thwarted. but the ideology clearly has not been as the investigation there continues. nic robertson and john miller, great to have you on set.
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utility officials say the damaged equipment has been fully repaired. >> but authorities have not yet identified a suspect. they do not know the motive for the attack. they say they have recovered some key physical evidence from the scene including dozens of shell casings. cnn's whitney wild is in moore county. she's been covering this since this started. what's the latest, whitney? >> reporter: well, there's new reporting from my colleague john miller who says that law enfor enforcement, again, as you point out, while they don't know exactly what the motive is are zeroing in on two possible threads. the first is a call by domestic violent extremists to attack critical infrastructure across the united states. and other zeros in on recent disruptions of lgbtq events throughout the country. law enforcement is putting this into context, and as we know, the time that this happened, the time the power went out here in moore county coincided with the start of a drag show that was supposed to happen here in moore
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county. so investigators are looking into that, although it's important to note they haven't exactly nailed down the motive yet. and part of that is because they haven't been able to figure out who did this. the fbi now leaning on the public to try to help them generate very solid leads. they've come out with a new wanted poster, hoping that these photos might help jigger some memory, might help to generate some really solid leads that law enforcement can run down because quite often it takes someone calling in saying they know the person, saying they have information that can really help break open this case. meanwhile, here in moore county they're on the fifth day of no power and it's extremely difficult. one woman telling us she has to drive up to an hour sometimes to get groceries. another woman saying that she's losing out on hundreds of dollars because she can't work, there's no power at work and so she can't go and so she's not being paid. here's what two women who were atshelter told us this week. >> it's kind of hard to sleep.
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but at the end of the day i would rather be somewhere where it's warm, where we have food, where we're taken care of, than to be somewhere where it's freezing cold and not knowing or wondering if, you know, through your sleep you're going to go into an epileptic shock from being so cold. >> i have a 1-year-old. so it's very hectic. no lights, no power, can't really do nothing. the kids scared of the dark. not good at all. >> reporter: one of the most difficult things for them to get over is the fact that someone did this, this wasn't happenstance, this wasn't a storm they could prepare for. someone did this, rendering 45,000 people in this county victims. now just waiting for power to come back on. the electrical company saying that that could happen as soon as midnight tonight. back to you. >> some much-needed relief for those residents there who have been cold without power. hopefully they get that power restored as soon as possible. whitney wild, thank you. well, an update in the investigation into the four
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slain college students in idaho. police have begun removing some of the victims' personal belongings from the off-campus house in moscow. >> now, these things are not pertinent to the ongoing investigation, so they'll be returned to the families. but that house is still an active crime scene. police say the suspect in the quadruple homicide is still at large. new york city mayor eric adams is dealing with a problem at home that his administration is trying to fight across the city. rats. adams, now, he's talked about his hatred for rats. he had to attend a hearing about rat infestation at the property he owns in brooklyn and is facing a potential fine. >> now, according to a summons dated may 10th, adams was fined $330 for failing to eliminate a rodent infestation. but adams is contesting the fine, and he told new york one that he's invested thousands battling the problem. >> 6,$800.
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$6,800. that's how much i spent to do rat mitigation on my property and throughout the block, the entire block. there is a rodent problem in this city, and you don't have to go far to know that i hate rats. >> did we need the rat video? people know rats. >> $6,800, in case we didn't hear it the first time. >> why do we have to show this again? all right. we got it, we got it. airplane mode. will it be a thing of the past for flyers? i'm moving on because i can't stand rats either. it is if you're traveling over europe. but americans may have to wait a while. we'll explain. that's next. up to 300 miles of range on a full charge. and a starting price around $30,000. evs for everyone, everywhere. chevrolet.
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all right. the wait is over. netflix's highly anticipated docuseries about the duke and
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duchess of sussex, harry and meghan debuts at midnight. t >> it delves into the couple's challenges inside buckingham palace. >> it's really hard to look back on it now and go, what on earth happened? >> do you hear that? that is the sound of hearts breaking all around the world. >> she's becoming a royal rock star. >> and then everything changed. >> wow. suspenseful ahead of thursday's premiere. harry and meghan hit the red carpet to accept the humanitarian award. trisha goddard is a cnn contributor and the host of "this week with trisha goddard." i know a lot of americans will be excited to start watching this tomorrow. it was interesting because in the film, we heard harry say, no one knows the full truth. we know the full truth. how nervous is buckingham palace about this apparent revelation
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perhaps of the, quote, unquote, full truth? >> that's a difficult one to tell. they're obviously going have some nerves. i actually think there's a lot of the british tabloid media, which is even more scared because i think a lot of the documentary's going to center around that, the, you know, kind of hounding that harry and meghan felt and especially as, you know, after princess diana died in the way she did, it clearly did traumatize both boys, especially harry. there's a huge class action against one of the tabloid newspapers, a really big one, with not just prince harry, but elton john and a whole load of other stars, and the court is waiting to hear back from that newspaper group. they have held off with their reply, one suspects until after this has gone to wear. there's a lot of collective holding breaths because this may
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feed into that court case as well. so yeah. it's an interesting one. britain isn't quite as hollywood. we, you know, they don't understand all the glitz and the gla glamour, and even those promotions have got people, you know, perplexed. we're just not used to that. so it's going to be an interesting one. i just -- there's a guy, a fantastic guy called charles who's written a portrait of the queen, and he really does have the royals' ear. he's friends with prince charles. he knew the queen really well, and he said apparently one thing prince andrew said to the queen after harry and meghan sat down with oprah is, oh, dear. that's not good, is it? the queen said, didn't fergie do something wrrather the same wit
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oprah? not the first, and won't be the last. >> certainly not. you talked about the fear within the british press and of course, the palace. what's on the line for harry and meghan? could their standing worsen after this, or improve? >> in the uk, i think there are two camps. so, you know, we either hate all of this thing, and it's been wrapped up by clickbait. team wales or team sussex. i don't think it's going to make things much worse in britain. those that are on team meghan and harry are going to stay there. what i do think though is maybe one thing, you know, i'm a program maker as well. i've made shows as well, and i think harry and meghan are about to find out what happens when you hand over very personal stuff to -- for millions. i mean, netflix is going to make a buck. they've got to show, you know, everybody who invests in them that this documentary is worth something. already the british press has started picking up on some certain scenes, one where the --
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in those promos where it looks like the press are coming after them. that was actually harry when he was going out with chelsea davey. so, you know, there's not a real understanding of the way things are hyped up, but i just wonder if meghan and harry have not kind of laid down with the dogs and might get up with a few fleas. >> well, i know so many people will be watching at midnight. trisha goddard, always good to have you. thank you. >> i will. >> i know you will be. well, this is frightening. there is a growing measles outbreak in ohio. health experts say it could take months to get it under control. we'll speak to one of the health officials there, straight ahead. the eat fresh® rerefresh just won't stop! now, subway® is refreshing their catering with easy-order platters and lunchboxes perfect for any party. pool parties.
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in europe, officials are about to let airlines provide 5g service to passengers during flight allowing in-light calls and high speed data. i don't know how i feel about this. >> brian fung is with us now. do you think this is a good idea? >> well, victor, that's a great question, and while the headline from europe is about 5g, i think the big reason we're not about to see this here in the u.s. any time soon has very little to do with 5g. in the united states, there
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isn't anyone pushing for that same ability here, and the reason to go into it has to do with a little bit of history. in the united states, we've debated this issue many, many times. most recently in 2013 when the fcc actually proposed relaxing the rules against cell phone use on airplanes, and that was met with a huge backlash from air passengers, pilots and flight attendants who basically were saying, we don't want the, you know, passengers on airplanes -- i don't want my seatmate to be able to make noisy phone calls right next to me, and there was even a white house petition to that effect, you know, around that time. that ultimately led the fcc in 2017 to withdraw that proposal when its chairman also cited those nuisance concerns, and so there are a lot of concerns obviously around 5g, and whether or not it may pose interference to aircraft, but alsro