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it includes moments like this. >> it's happening. it's happening. >> reporter: videos and pictures never happening before. >> he told me not to peek. >> reporter: the moment harry proposed. >> lots there to take in for harry and meghan fans. for the royal family, there is quite a lot there to unsettle them but not enough to prompt a formal response. let's see if that's the case next week, wolf. that's the more sensitive part of the story, which is when they were forced out, they feel, from the royal family. >> max foster reporting. thank you very, very much. to our viewers. thanks for watching. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front" next, brittney griner landing in texas in just a few hours. the wnba star free tonight after a swap for convicted russian arms dealer victor booth.
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we have details from the white house and i'll speak to the family of the american left behind and the woman who spent her career hunting down victor booth. and holding trump's team in contempt. that's the request from the justice department tonight over the mar-a-lago case as the january 6th committee considers criminal referrals for trump and now for at least four others. plus an "out front" exclusive at this hour. we'll introduce you to a chinese national risking his life by posting videos of the protesters for the world to see. let's go "out front." flying to freedom. wnba star brittney griner is in the air right now to return to her home state of texas. show you live pictures out of san antonio. that is the runway where she is expected to touch down in just a few short hours. her release in exchange for the convicted russian arms dealer victor booth marking an end of nearly ten months of captivity. it's amazing to watch this. you see griner and boot actually
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passing each other on the tarmac reminiscent of what you would see on the bridgesness world war ii in the cold war. it is incredible this is how it was done. griner was originally arrested back in february at amos could you airport on drug charges and she was sentenced to nine years in a pen nal colony. her release is a result of painstaking negotiations that also originally included the former marine paw whelan who was not set free in this swap. let's be clear, this is a deal that putin is celebrating tonight. russian state tv is flooding the air waves with the video showing griner leaving the detention center, getting into a van and boarding the plane. they have the video of bout doing the same. he got the merchant of death, he's free tonight. let's be clear, bout is accused
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of supplying weapons to the taliban and al qaeda. he may have worked for the gru. he was found guilty in a u.s. court in 2011 of conspiring to kill u.s. officials serving a minimum 25 year sentence now he's free in exchange for someone who pled guilty for bringing less than a gram of cannabis oil into russia. the what are you learning about this prisoner exchange which has been a fraught process over months? >> reporter: victor bout, he's already home. he touched down near moscow. he was met off the plane by his wife and his mother. now griner is not only from texas but san antonio is also where trevor reed was taken. like reed, there griner will be able to get any medical or other help that she needs. as these two detainees arrive
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home, there are still major questions tonight about why griner was the only one exchanged for the so-called merchant of death. the dramatic moment of the high stakes prisoner swap, brittney griner in the red coat walking towards the american plane. coming towards them state department roger carstnage who was hugged by a russian official. griner is leaving detention and boarding the plane in the snow. her passport returned, griner smiles knowing she's heading home. >> are you ready for flight? >> yes. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> back in the u.s. griner's wife sherrell was invited to the white house. >> today i'm standing here overwhelmed with emotions but the most important emotion i have is sincere gratitude for president biden and his entire administration. >> the release was the culmination of many months of
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negotiations with russia. >> this work is not easy. negotiations are always difficult. there are never any guarantees but it's my job as president of the united states to make the hard calls and protect american citizens everywhere in the world. >> the wnba star who was caught with cannabis oil entering russia spent ten months in russian detention but now she's spared from a brutal 9 year sentence from a russian penal colony. the trade for victor bout was finalized in the last 48 hours. she was flown to abu dhabi where the exchange took place on the tarmac of a small, private airfield. >> i'm glad to be able to say brittney is in good spirits. she's relieved to finally be heading home. >> the u.s. wanted to trade bout for griner and paul whelan but russia refused. whelan told cnn he's surprised he wasn't included.
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>> i'm greatly disappointed that more has not been done to secure my release. i'm happy that brittney is going home today and that trevor went home when he did, but i don't understand why i'm still sitting here. my bags are packed. i'm ready to go home. >> reporter: whelan told cnn that the russians see him at a higher level than griner. he's been charged with espionage, sentenced to 16 years. >> this was not a choice of which american to bring home. the choice was one or none. i wholeheartedly wish we could have brought paul home today on the same plane as brittney. >> reporter: erin, paul whelan wasn't the only one frustrated and disappointed with today's exchange. officials in the justice department have been as well. evan perez was told law enforcement raised strenuous objections but the decision had been made. officials from the fbi and dea
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spent years trying to catch viktor bout and they worry this sets a dangerous precedent. >> thank you very much. as i said, i'm going to be joined in a few moments by the woman the u.n. credits with bout's arrest. she'll react to this news today. she spent 15 years tracking him down. to the white house, kesha lands bottom. she's been briefed. i appreciate your time. what more are you able to tell me about the negotiations for griner who is going to be landing in san antonio in the next hour. what sealed the deal here? >> this has been a long time in the making. the president made it very clear from day one that brittney griner and bringing all of the americans who have been unlawfully detained, bringing them home was a priority. many thought when trevor reed was brought home, others should
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be brought home. as brittney comes home, people are asking the question. what the president has been clear, any time anywhere that an american is unlawfully detained, he will not rest until they are brought home. so that's why we have something to celebrate today here at the white house and across america. we know that brittney is on her way home. her wife sherrell was at the white house this morning, as you've seen. this has been months in the making. over the last week a deal really came into place and then over the last 72 to 96 hours the logistics were worked out. >> which is interesting. months and then of course obviously sounds like quite a bit in the past week, these past, as you say, three to four days. now the criticism of this, you point out, obviously huge part of it why for one and not for others but there are other
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reasons that there's criticism about the deal, even as people celebrate griner's release. from both democrats and republicans we're hearing one other crucial point. here are two prominent senators. >> the more we engage in such exchanges, the more americans are at risk of being scooped up and killed. >> we have to recognize an american is coming home -- >> reporter: republican senator rubio and republican senator coons. >> the president had a lot of things to weigh in considering how to proceed with this. a the the end of the day, an american who was unlawfully detained in a foreign country is on her way home. that's important to note. and i think it's very easy for us who stand in america standing on free soil to second guess
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whether or not someone should remain unlawfully detained be in a penal colony in russia. it was important to get brittney griner home and he has worked nonstop to make this happen. while we know that there was a prisoner swap, we also had to recognize this is not someone who's sentenced to life in prison. he had six years left on his sentence so at some point he was going to be free and the president weighed all of these considerations and thought it was important to bring brittney home when he had the opportunity. >> paul whelan of course is one of the americans still in custody. he has been in russian custody a lot longer than brittney griner. justice officials were opposed
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h as an earlier deal had fallen through. i'm about to speak with whelan's brother david. is there anything you want to say to him and the whelan family? >> the president has not forgotten him in the same way he didn't forget brittney when trevor reed was released. he's not forgotten paul whelan and he will work tirelessly to make sure he gets home. the president wanted him home with brittney today. he used everything in his power to try and make that happen but the option was not there. the opportunity to get brittney home was there and that is what the president decided to do and he will continue to work to get paul whelan home in the same way he's worked to get brittney griner home. >> mayor bottoms, appreciate
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your help. i want to go now as i said, he's got trumped up charges of espy owe naming. i want to give you a chance. he will do everything to bring your brother home. what do you say to that? is that enough? >> i don't know it's enough but it's certainly a lot. the white house has been very generous through this process. we were able to learn in advance paul was going to be left behind which allowed us to respond privately instead of publicly. we're seeing an evolution in the white house and i think from president biden, from secretary
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blinken, supervisor sullivan we are getting a repeated message that they are continuing to work on paul's case. >> you are handling it the best you can. when the world watches this, if they have already negotiated away a prisoner with mythical circumstances, what do you see as the path to get your brother home? >> there's the problem. not just mr. bout but mr. yarashenko went home. he went home as an exchange be with trevor reed. the u.s. government has attempted a number of other concessions as they were trying to get paul home and the russian government refused to take any of them. i think it really is at the point that the russian side will
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have to figure it out. that's where we stand today. theis a bit frustrating. perhaps not unavoidable. >> it's got to be very frustrating because when you hear secretary blinken say it was one or none, you know, i guess on a certain level it feels like, well, putin is the one who made that decision. he had the leverage and he made the desichgs and the one or none was the right thing? are you -- are you supportive of it? >> i'm absolutely supportive of it. to punish the thought of one man. an american in the situation who
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has the possibility of coming home. i think the umpts s. publication, that's the right decision. >> our producer spoke with your brother today and i just want be to play some of what he said to her. here he is. >> the president and his team are going to have to look at what they have as valuable or i'll be here for a long time. in these conditions, who knows how i'll come back or if i'll come back. what i don't understand is why nothing has happened to this point and what the roadmap is for my release in the future. my parents are older. my dog is 14 1/2.
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if i'm stuck here much longer, i'm in danger of seeing any of them again. >> what's it like to hear your brother say that again? >> it's hard. you can hear the despair and that's also the reality. he asks for a roadmap and there isn't one. where we are going has not been plumbed because it changes with each detainee. >> i don't know. >> david, our thoughts are with you. >> thank you very much for having me. >> and the incredible grace with which you and your family are handling this news. thank you. >> i do want to mention another american still in russian custody here. mark foghle. i'm going to be speaking with
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his sister tomorrow. >> viktor bout landing in moscow. this is the woman who spent 15 years tracking him down is "out front." plus, multiple involvements surrounding trump and criminal referrals for trump and four other members of his inner circle as the justice department asks a federal judge to hold him in contempt. a chinese man putting his life and that of his family's in jeopardy by tweeting out photos of protests. it's a an "out front" exclusive. and effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep number.
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doesn't notorious russian arms tealer viktor bout is on the ground after a prisoner swap with brittney griner. he had been in u.s. prison in part for plotting to kill americans. bout telling a russian reporter he was surprised by the release. here he is. >> translator: in the middle of the night they simply woke me up and said, get your things together, and that was it. there was no preliminary information. >> and there he is. he's got a lot of life ahead of him, as you can see. matthew chance is out front. you've been covering bout for years. the russians see this as a major
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victory. >> reporter: oh, absolutely. one of the people that was there greeting victor bout along be with his mother and wife was a russian parliamentarian. she said this is a capitulation by the united states, an acknowledgment that so far russia doesn't leave people behind and this is an acknowledgment that was so difficult to get the united states to agree to release viktor bout for brittney griner. morally they're two different people. she was caught with traces of cannabis oil in her luggage. viktor bout one of the world's most notorious arms traffickers. even the russians are acutely aware of the massive difference in the status of these two people. nevertheless, he's back home with his family. very emotional scenes at the airport. >> it's reported he was a former
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gru operative. as this is happening, putin is toasting the russian forces carrying out my invitation, then pout continues says cheers, appears to be drinking from a glass of champaign. after this he made an incredible remark. let me just play it, matthew. >> translator: right now there's been a lot of uproar with our attacks on the energy infrastructure of our neighboring country. yes, we're doing it, but who started it? who hit the crime an bridge. >> incredible. the neighboring country won't even use the word ukraine and then, who started it, ukraine. >> reporter: yeah. the he's gone out there on
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russian television to justify the war. strikes against infrastructure targets. they're accusing russia of war crimes. he was talking about how victory in the what he calls a special military operation in ukraine will be a long time in coming but there have been territories that have been gained. he's now almost sort of constantly trying to justify a conflict that even in russia people are starting to notice is not going to plan. >> thank you very much, matthew chance. out front, kathy lynn austin. the arms trafficking operative who spent time with him. she is the executive director of a conference. you spent 15 years tracking viktor bout. now he is a freeman tonight.
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how are you feeling tonight? >> as a human rights investigator, of course i have always tried to work towards the innocent civilians who have been used by pawns like brings ner shoot. but to know one of the arms traffickers is ready to be deployed. he is what i call a weapon of mass destruction personified. he will be ready for putin to deploy him. that is heartbreaking for me. >> so you do, you call him a weapon of mass destruction personified. he was convicted and sent to a
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minimum of 25 years in prison. how foul ton and plotting to kill americans. pout is not a security threat to the united states. what do you think he'll do now? >> well, i do think viktor bout is a security threat and we cannot minimize the issue. you need to be very proactive over there. victor booth, he comes with years of experience. years of contact. he started in ukraine. that's one of the areas we need to be concerned about right away. he'll be a major asset for putin. >> interestingly, you're saying in ukraine and starting out that he started in ukraine.
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it could play a part in this store. >> absolutely. he was one of the most sophisticated arms traffickers and even after u.s./u.n./e.u. sanctions were ready, willing, able and that's exactly what comey may need a little more time after that he's going to become preventive and block chevys in. you know what he does and you know what they think, i'm better than everyone. the. >> thank you, earn. next, the justice department asking a federal court to hold trump in content. what that could mean for others.
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the doj's reason, failing to comply with a subpoena. of the this is according to two sources familiar with the matter. it comes as we're also learning trump does not plan to appeal a court's ruling that ended the special master review of documents found at mar-a-lago. many thought he would go ahead and push forward with that. he says he is not. let's go to evan perez. let's start with the issue of contempt. the what does it mean for trump substantively if he is being held until contempt? >> the judge could we could do that until he comes into
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missing. >> evan, thank you very much. i want to go to the democratic chairman adam schiff. he's a member of the january 6th select committee. congressman, do you think it's a close call or donald trump should be held in contempt of core? >> wul. there have been multiple investigations that they complied with the subpoena and no classified documents. the there were lots of searches within his own party and what i think is undrges did deception
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ensure max protein, with 30 grams of protein, one gram of sugar and nutrients for immune health. tonight, elon musk forenow no longer the richest man on the planet. tesla shares tumbling again today. and after the closing bell, musk is now second place behind bernard arnaud who is the chief executive of louis vuitton. surpassing musk's worst by a whopping $1.2 billion. this is by forbes. they keep a daily tally of the richest people in the world. "outfront" harry enten. when elon musk became the richest man in the world technically, 15 months ago, september 2021, unseated jeff bezos, it was like $100 billion. it was like him him and these other paltry 100 millionaires.
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but now forbes downgrading him to second. this is day in and day out of a stock price. but is this a long-term trend? >> it absolutely is a long-term trend. as you were mentioning, musk's worth was billions ahead of anybody else. if you look right before he bought twitter, his worth was $224 billion. he was well ahead of arnaud and his family. you can see how it's basically shrunk and shrunk and shrunk. i should point out the bloomberg list still has musk ahead bay little bit, but even then the trend line has showed that musk's worth has taken a nosedive since the beginning of the year and especially since he bought twitter. >> running relative value, his more than others. he is in the news almost every day. you have neural link working on the brain implants, the twitter takeover, you have the starlink satellites so instrumental in the war in ukraine. i haven't even mentioned the rockets and going to mars that he is working on, right?
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this is not just about tesla and spacex. >> no, it's not, right? and i think it's important to note that when musk was known as basically the car guy and maybe the space guy. if you look at his ratings, his negative unfavorable ratings, they were basically in the single digits. as he has ventured out into these other realms, you see his unfavorable in the 20s, 30s. more americans dislike elon musk than like him, which is quite a turnaround than where he used to be. >> well, he is in politics. you just heard the chairman of the intelligence committee adam schiff arguing with musk about hate speech on twitter. in the midterms he said he was going to vote republican for congress, elon musk did. so he has waded into congress. he said he would support ron desantis if he runs for president. this makes him more of a lightning rod. how does it break down by party? >> it's interesting. if you go back five years ago, if you look at his unfavorable
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rating, his unfavorable rating was higher with republicans than democrats. now his unfavorable ratings with republicans has actually dropped from 2017, but his unfavorable rating with democrats has gone all the way up into the 50s and 60s. >> wow. >> this is a guy who democrats really do not like. republicans, though, not surprisingly like him a lot more. >> all right. thank you very much, harry. it's amazing. it is amazing how he has become so central in so many stories, including the political story in this country. >> exactly. next, a look at the special all-star tribute for cnn's heroes. help make trading feel effortless. and its customizable scans with social l sentiment help you find and unlockck opportunities in the market
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