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really appreciate it. >> thank you. good morning, everybody. it is december 9th. welcome to "cnn this morning." we also don't have theo james on set sadly. but we do have two major stories for you this morning. first, there has been a major shift in the senate. arizona senator kirsten sinema is no longer a democrat. that's not all. we're going to ask amy klobuchar what does this mean for her caucus? >> and she is finally home. brittney griner finally touching down in texas after being in
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russia for nearly ten months, the u.s. swapping viktor boot for her. but what about paul whelan who is still in prison in russia? >> and this announcement after democrats were celebrating their new 51-49 majority in the senate but now sinema's announcement she is a registered independent could have a big impact on the democrats' legislative agenda. jake, we've been talking about this interview all morning. i wonder what your big takeaways were. >> it's really trillion. senator sinema says she's no longer a democrat. she started out as a member of the green party in the year 2000. she endorsed and worked for ralph nader, tried to get ralph nader into the white house. now that path as continued.
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she went from green party activist to democratic senator to moderate democratic senator that was sometimes a thorn in the side of the democratic leadership. now she's an independent. we sat down and talked about her decision just yesterday. you're here to make a significant announcement. >> i've registered as an arizona independent. i know some people might be a little bit surprised by this but actually i think it makes a lot of sense. a growing number of arizonans and people like me just don't feel like we fit neatly into one party's box or the other. and so, like many across the state and the nation, i decided to leave that partisan process and really just focus on the work that i think matters to arizona and to our country, which is solving problems and getting thungs things done. >> your voting record is
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democratic. your views are that of a moderate, centrist democrat. how does leaving the party change how you'll do your job? >> i don't think it will change how i do my job. arizona sent me to be an independent voice for our state. i think what is important i'll be able to show up to work every day as an independent and not be, you know, stuck into one party's demands of following without thinking. i mean, as we've seen in recent years both parties have created this kind of requirement or a pull towards the edges that you just unthinkingly support all of one party's viewpoints. it's made it difficult to find folks who are willing to work together and solve problems. now, as you know, jake, we've been able to do a lot of bipartisan work over the last couple years and i'm incredibly
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proud of that and i think it's important for folks across my state and frankly across the country to say, yup, there's someone that's kind of like me, doesn't fit neatly into one box or the other but is standing up for their values, for what they believe in and is doing it without trying to get one over on the other party or beat the other guy. >> reporter: so let's talk about practically what this means. you're a number of important committees, including veteran affairs. does this mean you're not longer going to be in those positions because you're no longer a democrat and the democrats control the senate? >> i intend to maintain my position on my committees and keep doing the work that i've been doing for arizona. so i don't think that things will change in terms of how i operate or the work i do in the united states senate. >> ever since raphael warnock was re-elected this week, the balance of power is 51
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democrats -- or 51 votes for the democratic party, that includes two independents angus king of maine and beernie sanders of vermont. so what you're doing isn't going to change that? >> that's kind of a d.c. thing to worry about. what i'm worried about is doing what i think comports with my values and the values of arizonans. i'm going to still come to work and hopefully serve on the same committees i've been serving on and continue to work well with my colleagues of both political parties and i'm not spending much time worrying about what the mechanics look like for washington, d.c. and to be honest, i don't think anyone in arizona is caring about that either. i don't think things will change much for me or for arizonans.
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>> the democrats in washington feel good right now, they picked up a senate seat and some governors seats. it's the first time they gained senate seats since 1934. the red wave didn't actually happen, krevin mccarthy or the republicans will control the house but not with the margins they were expecting. this is going to disappoint a lot of democrats and they're going to feel they don't understand. why would you do this at a time when the democratic party is having a good week? >> i think folks at home from arizona have known me for a very long time and they know who i am. i've always been someone who is focused on getting results, getting things done and i've never fit neatly into any party box. i've never really tried. i don't want to. and i think that's reflective of how most arizonans live. arizonans who aren't affiliated with either party are often the
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largest group of voters in arizona. and even those who are affiliated with parties often find they don't fit 100% into that box. the reality is when we get up in the morning, we don't really think about partisanship. most people don't wake up and think i've got to get this democratic breakfast on the table, get on my republican car and go to work. that's not how real life is. i know it is in this town but in the rest of the country, people are living their lives. they're not thinking about who is winning and who is losing but that's what the party is thinking about, how do we get one over on this guy, ensure we're punishing them and continue to win? what i'm focused on and i think the proof is in the pudding in the senate, i'm focused on getting results and actually solving problems. so removing myself from the partisan structure, not only is
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it true to who i am and how i operate, i also think it will provide a place of belonging for many folks across the state and the country who also are tired of the partisanship. >> well, there's going to be a lot of noise about this from the democrats, from progressives, from the left. you know this that because of your position working with senator joe mancion of west virginia, you've already been a target of the left. they're going to call you every name in the book. they're going to call you a traitor, an ingrate. what are you going to say? >> i think i'll do what i always do, jake, which is keep doing the work that i know is important for my state. i'm just not worried about folks who may not like this approach. what i am worried about is continuing to do what's right
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for my state. and there are folks who certainly don't like my approach. we hear about it a lot, but the proof is in the pudding. in the last few years in the senate as you and i just mentioned, i've been honored to lead historic efforts from infrastructure to gun violence prevention to protecting religious liberty and helping lgbtq families feel secure to the chips and science bill, to the work we've done on veterans issues. the list is really long. and so i think that the results speak for themselves. it's okay if some people aren't comfortable with that approach. >> jake tapper is with us. jake, it's rare to just hear from the senator at that length. they'll say this has a lot to do with her running for reelection. what did you think?
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>> um, it is rare and i was actually very grateful. she gave us a lot of time and we have much more of this interview that's going to air on "the lead" today and on "state of the union" on sunday, talking about her work and her very humble upbringing. i've been thinking about what this actually means because, as she said, she doesn't think much is going to change. she's hoping that she had keep her committee assignments. she doesn't really spend a lot of time caucusing with democrats as it is. she didn't vote to make chuck schumer the majority leader last time. so her not doing it again this time isn't really going to have an effect. he's still going to be the senate democratic leader. so what does this actually mean if she doesn't think it's going to change how she votes and is not going to change how she does her job? i think there are two ways. one is that she no longer will
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be feeling a sense of obligation to do things because she is a democrat. in other words, she won't feel the need to -- of course she has to endorse joe biden if he runs for reelection. so it's really about how she feels about the job she's doing and how she feels about whatever sense of obligation the democratic party puts on her, that's one. and then two is the idea of her reelection. there's been a lot of noise about her being challenged from the left in the democratic primary. congressman rubin gallego has talked about possibly challenging her. she can't be primaried because she doesn't belong to a political party. does that make her reelection harder or easier? i don't know. i guess it depends on whether or not the democratic party puts up a candidate to challenge her. they don't do that to bernie
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sanders, who is an independent from vermont. i don't believe they do that to angus king, a republican from maine. i think she will be a little less reliable but generally speaking her politics are fairly progressive on most issues. maybe this makes it a little easier for her to be re-elected if the democratic party doesn't challenge her in arizona, but that remains to be seen. >> great interview. i can't wait to see more. >> and notable, jake, what you said there. she did not say she would endorse biden in 2024. >> a lot of news in that seven minutes, tapper. thank you. >> you can watch, as jake said, the rest of that interview today on "the lead" at 4 p.m. this morning, brittney griner touching do you know for the first time in ten months one month after she was released from detention in a one-for-one
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prisoner swap. her release is being celebrated as a major win for the biden administration. there's still a lot of questions, though. what would it take to bring back another american, who is still wrongfully detained in russia, paul whelan. he was arrested on espionage charges in 2018. a senior official said the biden administration has a new idea about new forms of offers they'll try with the russians in an effort to potentially secure his release. joining us now is john kirby. i want to start with brittney griner. seeing her touch down this morning. what have you heard about what she's saying on the flight back and how she's faring now that she's finally released? >> we've had a chance to talk to the team who traveled with her. they tell us she was in good spirits. she was incredibly gracious and
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kind and humble on the flight, very, very appreciative of the effort to get her home. appears to be in good health but we're going to make sure. that's why she's going to go to a medical treatment facility in san antonio and get looked after, to make sure that we're taking care of her before she rejoins her family. >> this came together about a week ago. what was president biden weighing as he was prepared to make the decision? >> nobody is doing back flips that mr. boot is back on the streets here but the deal really came together in the last week or so and it became readily apparent to the president and the entire time that it was make the exchange and the only one they were willing to trade was
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britney for mr. boot or get done and not even one more day in a penal colony was a good outcome. >> and he is a free man. >> with any kind of exchange like this, we do a national security assessment, as is the case here with mr. bought to ta bout to what the risks might be. he was going to be free in six years. it's not like he was serving a life sentence. i think it speaks volumes about our confidence and comfort and our ability to protect our national security interests we were able to make this deal. >> what about concern about his returning to selling arms? there's a war going on in ukraine now. >> that's decision mr. bout will have to make. if he continues to, that's a
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decision that the united states will have to make. >> on this front the pentagon says there are concerns that bout could return to the illicit international arms trade. officials say, quote, i think there is a return he would return to doing the same kind of work that he's done in the past. >> again, a decision that mr. bout would have to make. >> but are you concerned about it? >> we are always concerned about our national security interests, about actors out there, whether they're nation states or individuals. and if mr. bout chooses that path, we will continue to make sure we can hold him accountable we did a national security assessment. the decision was this was a trade we could make at that time and get britney moment. >> paul whalen is still in russia. his family has been incredible
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the release of brittney griner. has the president had a chance to speak to paul whelan directly? >> we did speak to mr. whelan before the exchange happened so that he heard from us and not from the press that this was happening. and clearly he's disappointed. w we're disappointed. we would have loved nothing more than to get both of them back yesterday or today. but it just wasn't going to be possible. the russians are treating him differently, they put him in a different category because of these sham espionage charges. so we're going to keep working on this. we have a much better understanding of where the russians are on him. we're going to use that knowledge and context going forward. we're going to keep at that task. >> the question, though, and this is critical, who do you have to offer? you don't have another viktor
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bout, who is someone the russians want so badly? >> we are active discussions in trying to get paul home. i think you can understand i'm not going to negotiate in public. we're looking at our options, we're going to keep looking at our options and when we can get him back, we're going to do that. >> putin clearly is using his leverage here. what are your concerns on how that translates in ukraine? >> this negotiation was done separate and distinct from the ukraine issue. this is part and parcel of our efforts to get americans wrongfully detained home. i think it would be imprudent to think you got that done so that can somehow relate to easing tensions over ukraine. mr. putin has shown no indication of stopping this war in ukraine, no indication he's willing to stop targeting civilian infrastructure.
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we're going to keep the pressure on him and make sure we can continue to support ukraine on the battlefield, providing them the security assistance, the weapons and tools and ammunition to continue this fight. that will happen in coming days. >> do you think that he finally agreed to this deal because this is a deal that the administration made over the summer to get a win at home. >> again, i can't speak for his intentions. i think it's a dangerous exercise to get inside mr. putin's head. they were very clear they wanted mr. bout back. they were clear the only one they would give back for mr. bout was britney. so that was the deal that we took. >> thank you for talking to us about this important decision. >> and senator sinema shaking things up.
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three days after the party celebrated a cushion, a brand new 51-seat majority. and you're still a democrat, right? >> yes, i am. >> are you bummed? >> i'm still celebrating raphael warnock. number two, in terms of the senate, that victory matters. senator sinema has always had an independent streak. i don't think i'm telling you anything that's a surprise. she as worked out agreements with republicans and democrats, she's worked out infrastructure, to gun safety with chris murphy to the recent work with tammy baldwin and rob portman on gay marriage. i know from certain from watching jake's interview and reading the political story that i don't believe this is going to shake things up quite like everyone thinks she has committed to continue voting for judges that she believes are
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qualified. she has of course voted for ketanji brown jackson, a number of biden-appointed judges. she is going to continue to work with us and she's even -- you can point to some votes she's taken that were party line votes with democrats. we already have two independents in the senate and that is angus king and bernie sanders. they're different ideologically but they register as independents. that's why i don't want to downplay the fact that she is an independent and declare it today but i want to be honest about the fact i don't think it's going to greatly change the way the senate is working right now and in any way take away from the victory that democrats have because for all sense and purposes, chuck schumer is still the majority leader and we'll still be able to get done a lot of things we want to get down. >> so you think she had continue
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to cautcus with your pearty? >> i don't know how she'll caucus but she said she will continue to vote every day. every single day we grind through these votes on judicial nominees and appointments and the like. if she were to say, no, i am going over republican, i am not voting with them anymore. that's a whole different thing. that is no where near where she said. she tends not to go to the caucus except for rare moments where she's advocating for something she cares about. that's not going to change either. we have been living with independents. i don't think people think of it that way but that has been going on for quite a while. >> it kind of sounds like you're saying you understand her decision. >> i, having observed her and know her and worked with her on a number of things, it didn't
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completely surprise me, no, because she has voted independently a number of times and prides herself in that. i think the key is for us and in moving legislation, does this chang things? so if a supreme court nominee opens up, if we had a chance of codifying roe v. wade, she's clearly for that and reproductive rights. if we move on issues that are ones where we have to find some common ground in the middle, i don't think it's going to change things. it may change things with arizona politics and it's too quick for me to comment on how that would work right now, i'd have to look at it but it doesn't change things in the senate for all intents and purposes. >> you just brought up a supreme court. that is a critical part of being a senator is confirming justices. you sat in the supreme court for three hours this week as the justices heard arguments in this case of moore versus harper. i've been obsessed with this case, trying to explain it to the american people, why it
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matters, it's wonky but stick with me. you wouldn't have done agone an that. it's a little bit of a big deal in this moment. what did you take away from the oral arguments? it seems like the justices didn't discount the independent state legislature theory and might find a narrow version to apply. >> what i saw was committed with other arguments when you predict what the conservative justices are going to say or act, i thought a number of them were highly skeptical of this theory and this is conservative legislature in north carolina -- i get worried about everything with the supreme court. it's the conservative legislature that i say it's simply an unconstitutional power grab. they said they didn't have to report it all for any decisions, none of their cases, none of their laws have to be reviewed by the state supreme court. here's what's unique on this
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case. leading conservative voices like ludwig, ben ginsburg and all of the chief supreme court justices, including liberals and conservatives united on this to say this is out of whack, this is extreme. so you have a different set of facts going into this case. i thought all the justices' questions were good. clearly to me elaena kagan captured it when she said, look, we have these checks and balances for a reason throughout our system. you saw justice roberts asking questions. at an extreme, what would this mean? here's me talking now -- could any state legislature do whatever they want when it comes to elections and there would be no review by the state supreme court? that's why this is so important. we await their decision. i predict people may be surprised by the outcome of this. >> we'll wait a few months to find out. >> the implication, if it's not
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the surprising decision, if it is where the state legislatures can do this in. >> yes, if it goes their way, the way of the north carolina state legislature, it would mean that perhaps electors could be appointed that aren't even consistent with where the people are. it would mean that election laws of any kind could be passed. this is a gerrymandered map that's at stake here that the supreme court said was unconstitutional under their laws. it could mean other election laws that the state legislature could just do what they want. it might be extreme where you don't have to respect the governor's veto. that's why this is so crazy. we have a system of checks and balances in this country. >> for now. >> the prosupreme court has bee making decisions i don't agree with and the idea is the check is supposed to be the congress and the president. this one, though, given what i
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was watching of their questions, this one might surprise you. >> come back in june, okay? >> if i am wrong, i will come become and say i'm wrong. if i'm right, you'll say i predicted the affordable care act would be upheld and i'm predicting an interesting outcome on this. >> if you change your party affiliation, let us know. >> i think it's important senator sinema has been an independent for all intents and purposes, and i think in a very good interview with jake tapper, she explained it. >> does it give mancion more sway, tho? >> that's going to be going on. senator manchin will still have power and so will every senator. you'll surprised at what goes
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producer level prices and month tom to month it 0.3%. that number is hotter than they wanted to see. you can see this off of the 8%. but still, guys, it's too high. i'm watching futures tumble here right now. stock index futures. that's because wall street is saying, wow, all this medicine from the fed and these prices are still stubbornly high, you guys. >> what else can they do? >> keep raising interest rates. next week the fed is going to raise interest rates by 50 basis points. not quite as much as it had in the prior four meetings. but the fed is still in the midst of its inflation fighting mission here. that raises borrowing costs for all of you as the fed tries to slow demand and choke off inflation. >> thanks so much for that
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shaped who he is today. >> i've often given credit of these grand ideas, trevor, you're so smart. who do you think teaches me, shaped me, nourished me and formed me, my mom, my grand, all these black women in my life and america as well. i always tell people if you truly want to learn about america, talk to black women. yeah. because unlike everybody else, black women can't afford to [ bleep ] around and find out. black people understand how hard it is when things go bad, especially in america. the only place black people, in brazil, wherever it gets bad, it
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gets worse for them but black people in tparticular, they no what it is. people say why do black women turn out in america. they know what happens if things don't go the way they should. they can't [ bleep ] around. if you want to know the best way or the most equitable way, talk to black women. they're a lot of the reason that i'm here. so i'm grateful to them and grateful to every single one of you. this has been an honor. thank you. >> how beautiful. how real was that. joining us now, cnn entertainment reporter, our friend lisa france. >> it was peak trevor noah last night. it was poignant, it was cheeky, it was funny and it was just what we needed. i thought it was one of the best endings for a late night show host i've ever seen before.
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he really spoke from the heart and people responded to it, all over twitter there's been tons of praise for trevor noah and already people are missing him. >> it's hard to replace him i feel like. he's been this iconic voice for so long. there are so many voices like that talking about real issues but with such a sense of wit and humor. it's kind of hard to think about what it's going to be like in the evenings without his voice. >> absolutely. you know what's funny is when he first got the job seven years ago, he was barely known. he had only been a correspondent on the show for a couple months. people felt like, ooh, how is this even going to work? now we can't imagine the show without him. i interviewed a couple of correspondents and roy wood jr. said one of the things he loved about trevor was after trevor announced he was going to be leaving, he said let's focus on the work. he's always been about making the best show possible and he's really, really going to be missed. >> i can't wait to see wanda
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sykes guest host. >> oh, is that right? >> i think lisa france should get in there. >> from your lips to the big guy's ears. >> they're watching. thank you so much. >> four of the best golfers on the planet, including tiger woods, facing off tomorrow in "the match." that's what it's called. who will take home this year's bragging rights? that's next. and up to o 320 miles of range on a full charge. evs for everyone, everywhere. chevevrolet. when you're through with powering through, it's time for theraflu hot liquid medicine. powerful relief so you can restorand recover. theraflu hot beats cold.
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♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪ washington, we're glad you are with us. four of the biggest names in golf will be competing under the lights in the capital one "the match" this weekend. tiger woods will be teaming up with the world's number one player rory mcilroy, they will be up against jordan spieth and justin thomas in the 12-hole match tomorrow night. this will be woods' first
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competition since july. let's bring in trevor immelman, he is the 2008 master champion and will be a commentator for "the match." this is like a big deal, right, because it's called "the match." >> yeah. >> kind of cool they're pairing up the greats. >> yeah, it's a huge deal and fantastic to see these four guys come together, like you just touched on there, we haven't seen tiger woods compete since the open in july, he is the biggest name in our sport by far still, so lots of anticipation to see just how he's going to get on and how he's going to team up with the world's number one, mcilroy. >> what is your sense of who has the advantage here? these are all amazing golfers, everyone loves to watch them, but what's your sense of how the pairings look and how different this is from the pga and what these matchings, these pairings, actually look like? >> well, the betting favorites right now for me the guys who look the best are thomas and spieth, they've paired up so extremely well at the president's cup just a few months ago and were actually
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unbeaten in team competition against the internationals. so they are the favorites going in, they're great buddies, they've known each other extremely well since they were junior golfers competing together. the one thing i've learned through my career being around golf and competing is never count out tiger woods, even though we haven't seen him play for a little while. >> yeah. >> he has been working, he's been struggling with the walking because of the various injuries, he's going to be able to use a cart at "the match." so don't count him out, and it doesn't hurt to have the world's number one golfer rory mcilroy as your partner. this is going to be a lot of fun, 12 holes, best ball match play under the lights in bel-air, florida. this is going to be a great one to watch. >> even though i'm totally an expert on all things golf, as kaitlan can tell you -- not -- i heard something about a different kind of golf ball that tiger woods is going to use. is that right? i didn't even know those exist, by the way, but apparently there
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are harder ones and softer ones. what's up with that? >> you have just given me some insight, i'm heading down there later today and i will be catching up with all the players and i will find out exactly what's going on there. >> okay. >> when i was with him last week in the bahamas he did not mention testing a new golf ball, so i'm going to have to keep my eyes peeled on that and will have to report back. >> i hope i'm not wrong. this is what our smart producers tell me. trevor, thank you. for all of you watching, you can catch "the match" saturday, 6:00 p.m. eastern on tnt. for many this time of year it's about giving back, the holidays are here, cnn heroes is this all-star tribute for ten people who put others first all year long not just around the holidays. it's a star-studded gala and airs live this sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. it's something you don't want to miss, the stories are so incredible. >> announcer: sunday, it's the time of year to be inspired and
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good friday morning, i'm erica hill. >> and i'm jim sciutto. we are following several major stories this morning, including a cnn exclusive. arizona senator kyrsten sinema leaving the democratic party, officially now registering as an independent. this is just two days after her now former party secured a narrow majority in the senate. the white house out with a statement just in the last few minutes saying in their view this does not change the new democratic majority control of the senate. we're going to dive into what this means for democrats, plus more from jakepe
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