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good morning. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. america has a longstanding homeless problem. at least that's what we call it.
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i think it's much more complicated than a matter of shelter. on last week's program i gave credit to new york city mayor eric adams for taking it on. others are not so supportive of his efforts. the mayor himself will join me in a moment. adams tasked first responders with enforcing a state law enacted in 2021 allowing them to involuntarily commit people experiencing a heating crisis. the mayor called it a law. it only covered an overt act that the person may be suicidal, a danger to others and those who prevents them from meeting their own basic human needs to the extent they are a danger to themselves. i said the same standard exists in theory all over the country. what sets mayor adams apart is his willingness to act on it. he said we have a moral obligation to try and help. yet his move immediately calls controversy. anthony al hoe haro with new
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york's fire department bureau of emergency medical services wroeg these words. in nearly 20 years as a medical responder i have never witnessed a mental heating crisis than the one new york is currently experiencing. during the last week of november, 9 11 dispatchers received on average 425 calls per day for emotionally disturbed persons. he lists overworked responders swamped hospitals and the breach of trust that it will cause among the homeless population. new york city mayor eric adams joins me now. thank you so much for being here. as i said, you're getting lots of attention. it's mixed. when i looked at the directive, are they at risk to themselves on others is the same as any other city. you're acting on the authority you have. is that a fairen caps hraeugz? >> yes, it is.
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it is a clear one. we should be clear, if we are saying let's lead the status quo, those who are saying that, they are basically stating leaving people on the streets who cannot take care of their basic needs and they are a danger to themselves or other. that is inhumane. i'm not going to do that. i'm going to make sure we get people the care they need and deserve. and, in many cases, they don't need -- they don't know they need that care because of their mental health illness. >> mayor, we know what it means to be a danger, to pose a danger to others. we can see that. threatening conduct, violent action. but it is much more of a gray area to dry to determine when an individual is at risk to themselves. so, how do we define that? >> well, there's clear training. we are using several ways of making a determination of, first, based based on the
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partnership we have with mental health professionals. people state police will roundup everyone where mental health. that is not true. what we are doing, we will train our mental health workers, outreach workers and officers to look and make a determination and then reach out to clinical professionals either remote viewing or some sort of telecommunication, telemedicine to assist in that on the street. they then go to the hospital where a determination is made by a psychiatric or psychologist, a professional will determine the next steps to be taken. >> you know that a lawsuit was filed this week and folks say -- critics say you've lowered the bar and now someone with a mental disability runs the risk of being locked up.
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to those folks you would say what? >> it's really unfortunate that we are trying to use our political motivation to get in the way of motivating people to take care of those individuals who need their basic needs. everyone knows my comments were clear. we are not taking everyone that has a mental illness into custody. we're not arresting people. and so all of this hysteria that's being raised is totally in conflict with new yorkers. new yorkers understand we cannot leave our fellow citizens on the street that cannot take care of their basic needs. i did not get to this point overnight. in january and february i went out and sat in encampments. i saw people with human waste, talking to themselves, drugs, pair per nail ya, hearing voices
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in their head. i said this is not the city we're going to live in where we are walking by fellow new yorkers when we know they cannot make the determination of seeking help. >> fort reason you just articulated i said last week that maybe homelessness is not the right distributor. yes, shelter is a factor. they need to be housed. so much is driven by mental illness and addiction. what should we call it? >> that's a great question. and i'll leave that up to the experts that's better than me. i sat down with mental health professionals, other individuals and sat in the room and they assisted me. after my observations and the first safety plan we continue observation. what we discovered was a lack of qaa clarity. our first responders did not know exactly what they could do if they came in contact with someone that clearly was imagining things.
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we cannot wait until they do something harmful to themselves or harmful to others. we gave that clarity to our first responders. you know what i have learned, change is hard. any time you want to make a change, especially in new york with 8.8 million people, 30 million different opinions. we know this is the right, humane thing to do. we will move forward. and hopefully other cities and states will see we can't leave our fellow americans on the street when they're in these conditions. >> you know you're going to be judged for how well you care for the folks, those you do remove from the street. are you ready for that? >> yes, i am. i did not become a mayor to climb a hill. i became the mayor to climb a mountain. far too often we are afraid to take action and we want to punt to another administration and pretend as though the problem is not there. i want these problems. i noticed them for years as a police officer. i saw how we abandoned people.
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and i made that commitment. we're not. we're going to take these tough choices. we're going to go towards the problem. i ran towards gunshots as a cop. i'm going to run towards the problems facing the city and how we can do better by the people of the city. >> well, it's heartbreaking. and i wish you godspeed. i have an unrelated question before i let you go. the guy with the bat, what the hell? $7,500 and he's back out? it's heartbreaking and it's wrong, correct? >> it really is. not only that, the individuals who plotted to shoot synagogues, they're back out. the individual who shot three people, killed two had a long record. he finally got caught. every time we do our job as law
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enforcement and city administrators, we are seeing this revolving door, catch, release. i say this over and over again. when do we pass laws that protect the innocent people of this country. >> mayor, thank you so much. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> what are your thoughts? tweet me. social media, hit me up, tell me what you're thinking. what do we have, catherine. let's stop kidding. this isn't to help the mentally ill but for the benefit of others. it's a clear civil rights violation but so what. what about the rights of individuals who are ill equipped to make decisions for themselves? i'm in philadelphia. i came into work under the cover of darkness on a saturday morning as i always do, stopped at an intersection, look at someone who had an encampment, an umbrella to shield them from
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the overheadlights of the city. is that person capable of making a determination that this is where they want to be. he's evaluating it in a way that i think all of his contemporaries are afraid to do. so i hope it works. my highest priority are those folks living on vents. i have seen them all over the country. here in philadelphia, new york, tenderloin in san francisco, skid row in l.a. i hope he's successful. up ahead, just as the supreme court heard arguments whether a colorado law could compel a web designer to make sites for same sakes marriages, a virginia restaurant cited the dignity and safety of its lgbtq employees. the president of the group shunned is going to join me next. and arizona senator kyrsten sinema jolted the political word when she announced her switch to independent. many think it's a bid for
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survival. i hope more will follow her lead. i'll explain. plus, if you were paid more than $600 via apps like paypal or venmo they are now required to report that to the irs. previous threshold 20 grand. this as a result of the 2021 rescue plan act and addition of 87,000 now employees at the irs. i want to know what you think. go to smerconish.com and answer this week's poll question. should every app report over $600 every year to the irs? >> you don't even pay taxes. they take taxes. you get the check, money gone. that ain't a payment. that's a jack.
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is refusing business to someone discrimination or is it free speech? a virginia restaurant refused service to a group because of its anti-abortion and anti-lbgtq religious beliefs, and news of it happening the same week as the supreme court hearing arguments about a colorado web designer who doesn't want to make wedding sites for same-sex couples. lori smith is challenging a public accommodations law. smith claims this means she would be forced to express messages inconsistent with her beliefs when she says violates around her first amendment rights. she said the law pertains to be conduct not speech. four years ago the court ruled in favor of a baker who refused to make a cake for a same-sex
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wedding. in the midst comes the virginia restaurant dustup. the family foundation of virginia reserved a private room at a richmond restaurant only to have it canceled 90 minutes ahead of time. it is a veteran of tv cooking shows including top chef and chopped. it released this about the cancellation. we have always refused service to anyone for making our employees unsafe. many staff are women and/or members of the lgbtq plus community. all are people with rights who deserve dignity and a safe work environment. we respect established rights as humans and strive to create a work environment where they can do their jobs with dignity, comfort and safety. a list of its beliefs and causes on the website including virginians free to live out
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their faith, enhance the value of human life on elective abortion and greater information for support for mothers who find themselves wrestling with an unexpected pregnancy, that marriage is a lifelong union between one man and one woman, institution of god and foundation for civil society and each person's gender beautifully expresses either male or female as god created them and fighting the false ideology of false genderism in the school and workplace. victor yo cobb wrote this blog post describing the incident. quote, we've been canceled again. so, victoria, thank you for being here. i don't think that you should have been denied service in virginia at the restaurant. similarly, i don't think that the baker or the web designer should deny service to a gay couple. and i want to know if you are similarly consistent? >> yeah. i don't think you have the
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analogy quite square. the real apt analogy, take the baker. if the baker had a sign on the door and he said i don't have an lbgtq person in here. that would make my team unsafe, uncomfortable. that would be an apt analogy. instead what we have is people who have said our -- we have a situation where people have said these people make us feel bad and there are our team, our staff doesn't want to be around them. how hypocritical that we cloak a statement with words like in khraouszivity and welcoming in order to defend our decision to deny food service to other people who hold different political or religious views. >> but i think what you are saying, you correct me if i'm wrong, that there is speech inherent in the baker or the web designer. and you are now going to compel that person's speech.
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let me stop there. do i have it right so far? >> yeah. jack does birthday cakes for anyone. he does not do same-sex marriage wedding cakes. it say specific product. our courts said look, that he is an artist. we are not going to make him do a certain type of speech. >> i'm going to take that as a yes. you're for the baker being able to say i'm not baking the cake for the gay couple. now it is a virginia resta restaurateur, highly touted. she said i'm not serving dessert because i don't agree with what they represent. it is completely analogous. i'm all for service. if you're a baker, bake the blanking cake f. you're a web designer, welcome in the group from virginia.
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>> she didn't say i can't use my artistic talent, i don't want to be part of this. she said my wait staff is unsafe. we used to use words unsafe like for domestic violence victim going to get a restraining order. she said my people don't feel comfort wbl these people in our restaurant. >> i totally get it. i'm just saying if she in the desserts she was going to make was expressing speech, it's the same as the cake baker. >> if she was. >> let me back up. i know you follow the arguments as i did this past monday in the supreme court on the same issue. it's incredible the timing of all of this. justice sotomayor said, hey, if we allow the web designer to not have to design that web for the same-sex couple, for the first time in our history we're going to be saying it's okay to
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discriminate based on gender identity, based on race, based on religion. you know it's a slippery slope argument. would you similarly say a web designer doesn't have to make a cake for an inter racial marriage because they don't agree with that from their religious point of view. >> i think we are stretching the lori smith case. she has a fundamental concern. it's not the people. it's i don't want to write speech. i have to write content and create beautiful imagery on something that violates my faith. that's her case. we vice president seen a ruling yet. it sounds favorable from what folks are saying. it is because we protect speech. it is a bedrock principle. it is so important that no one, not even a paying customer compels someone else to have to say or write words they don't agree with. i think that's the american we want to live in. >> i want to live in a world
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where everybody gets served. i want to live some a world where judgments aren't made based on religious conviction. you respectfully didn't answer me. i think the web designer could say, oh, my god, it's an inter racial marriage, i'm not designing a website. the baker could say i'm not going to bake a cake for them. i want everybody to get served. i'll give you the final word. go ahead. >> americans want to know that we live in a place that protects freedom and their religious views but not a place where weight staff can say i am bigoted, intolerant of other people who simply believe differently so i won't put food on the table. >> thank you, victoria. appreciate you being here. >> thanks for having me. >> hit me up on twitter, youtube, facebook, et cetera. this is wrong. it was wrong to deny a cake to a gay couple too. but the right started the slippery slope. again, i'm not going to get into
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we started it, they started it. to me it reminds me of the pharmacy where someone, because of their religious conviction says i cannot dispense birth control. my response is to say maybe you shouldn't be a pharmacist. still to come, arizona senator kyrsten sinema announced she's leaving the democratic party and registering as a political independent while she has long upset part answer in both parties, as she put it. i say, we need more like this. and to help pay for the biden administration rescue plan, the irs is hiring many new agents and has lowered venmo transactions from $20,000 to just $600. are americans with a side hustle in for a rude awakening come tax day. that's the focus of this week's poll question. go to smerconish.com and answer
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we strive for all americans to be properly even proportionately represented at all levels of government, right? that's why we appropriately celebrate when glass ceilings are shattered in elections. imagine if i told you 35% of americans are unrepresented in washington. no elected official stands for what they want. that is the case but maybe it's changing. arizona senator kyrsten sinema just announced a change from democratic to independent in her party registration. and she's got lots of company. 35%, a plurality of americans, regard themselves as independents, not republicans, not democrats. the number exceeds the alternatives. in arizona, according to the latest data as of the time of
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the midterm election, it's the same story. 33.9% of arizonans regard themselves as others, 37% who say democratic, 34% who say republican. something is wrong when so many of us have no one we can look to who is similarly registered. angus king and bernie sanders regard themselves ayes but rarery exhibit the maverick behavior of sinema. the house of representatives and senate do not look like america. maybe that now changes. senator sinema's explanation published in the arizona republic reads like a transcript of one of my saturday morning commentaries. her words, everyday americans are increasingly left behind by the national party's rigid partisanship which hardened in recent years. it pulls people to the edges, allowing the loudest voices to determine their respective
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party's priorities and expecting the rest of us to fall in line. in catering to the fringes neither has demonstrated much tolerance for diversity of thought, bipartisan compromise seen as a last resort better than to achieve lasting progress. americans are told we have two choices, democrat or republican and we must subscribe wholesale to the views pulled further and further toward the extremes. sad and all true. as i have said many tiles we have surrendered the playing surface to the loudest voices in media and in washington. some say noting she would have trouble winning a i democratic primary in 2024. that's more telling about primaries. if jeff flake couldn't survive a primary as an arizona republican and sinema can't survive as a
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democrat, then we have a primary problem in this country. nuance is not tolerated. the way to fix it, by the way, is to get states with closed primaries to open them up. indendents have to register 29 days in advance for the other. no such leeway for presidential elections. consider if only there were a few more like sinema the balance of power would shift to independents who might then see value in caucusing with one another instead of sitting with the two hearts. and then the i's would really have it. delta air lines and the state of maryland are ditching the requirement of a college degree. are diplomas meaningful in the workforce. a the threshold for reporting such
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$600. anyone who receives more than $600 in business transactions through third-party payment apps will need to report as taxable income. and the platforms are required to report transactions exceeding that to the irs. previously they were only required to do so if a consumer had 200 commercial transactions over the ours of the year. this is part of the biden administration american rescue act that spurred inflation say critics. joining me now to discuss is americans for tax reform, author of the book "leave us alone" getting the government's hands off our money, our guns and our lives. if you vote no on my poll question today, aren't you endorsing the nonpayment of
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taxes? >> no, of course not. this is a new invasion of the privacy of the american people. we haven't had this law before. it used to take $20,000 and 200 different exchanges to trigger the sending in your private information to the irs. this is a massive invasion of the privacy of the american people. it's not just reporting income. it is reporting any payment you get. if you sell your children's stuff for $1,000, the irs says, that's $1,000 of income. you've got the receipts for all those years and years of children's clothes? if not, you could be audited. if not, you better pay the tax on the $1,000. until you prove that it isn't income, it is too. >> rars of my receipt of a 1099
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k i need to pay my taxes. i have an obligation to pay my taxes. presumably the economy needs to do because this the gig economy has grown so large and so many aren't paying taxes. what should they be doing if not this? >> they should repeal this until, for starters, they have some idea what they're doing and they can tell the american people what they're doing. they're not picking up most phone calls that come in. less than 50%. maybe 20%. you call and say what do i do i got a 1099 k. i don't know what a 1099 k is. the government is being september information on you that you don't know about. they're sending you a note saying uh-oh this money. why? you can't call the irs and get through at present. that's a problem. and the privacy, your privacy doesn't exist anymore. you may remember when tens of thousands of irs documents,
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people's audits were shared with a left wing organization taken from the irs, stolen from the irs, very illegal. the irs has made no effort and cannot tell congress how this happened or what they're going to do to stop it. and they've refused to tell congress, never mind the american people, they won't even tell congress what is happening there. they got caught by their own internal investigators destroying about 30 million tax documents. they won't tell congress how they were destroyed, burned, buried, what happened, lost. they're gone. they say they're destroyed. they won't answer these questions. that may be data, your pieces of paper. >> i hear your argument. i don't know if people still speak of getting paid under the table. but that's what we're talking about here. the under the table economy has grown exponentially as the gig economy has taken off. so what is the irs supposed to
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be doing? i'll bet you don't want them to have 87,000 new employees. unless they get them, they won't be able to answer the phones. >> $20,000 is significant. how much of your personal data do you trust the presently structured irs. unless there are reforms, the 1099s we know are not secure because the irs has a bad habit of letting it be leaked, handed out or stolen. >> i hear you. you are telling me what they shouldn't do. i'll read it. catherine put it up on the screen and grover can respond with me. can't wait to get audited for all the pizza my friends pay me back. for that i'm not reporting.
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i guess i'm going to get caught up and explain these are gifts for our children who are students as opposed to income they've received. do you want to respond to the pizza comment. >> well, it's those kind of exchanges that can show up as income even though it may be paying somebody back. what it means is the irs has the ability to tell you they're going to audit you because they have questions. it will allow the irs to audit anybody, just about anybody in the country who uses venmo or paypal and say we need to see your receipts. do you have receipts? if you don't have receipts you owe taxes on what's not income but was cash to you. and it's a very big deal. people don't have receipts for that. and it's going to be a mess. and the irs is not prepared for this. >> grover, thank you for being here. i appreciate it. >> okay. hopefully we can get it
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see fewer companies requiring a college degree? "the wall street journal" reported that the tight job market is prompting more employers, including google, ibm and delta air lines to concentrate on skills and experience. a recent study says the share of jobs requiring a college degree dropped from 51% in 2017 to 44% in 2021. looking at job postings in november, 41% required at least a bachelor's degree, down from 46% at the start of 2019 ahead of the covid-19 pandemic. more than 100,000 americans have completed google's online college alternative program offering training in fields like digital marketing and project management. joining me is nicole smith,
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chief economist and research professor at the center on education at georgetown university. she published this piece at smerconish.com under the headline don't speak on middle skills, sub b qualpy occasions are winning in tighter markets of are employers rethinking the value of a degree or are they adjusting the current laboring market? >> hi, good morning. thank you so much for having me. all evidence points to the fact that employers are just rethinking what's available to them. they have a really tight labor mancht it's difficult to get workers. we are coming off of the heels of covid-19 where many people have resigned and left jobs permanently. something has to be done. >> what would you say to someone who now is in the midst of an undergraduate education and they are hearing this like, oh, my god, i invested all this time, incurred debt and i am not going to get a leg up? >> we are not saying a
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bachelor's degree doesn't matter. they still matter, earn on average more than some associates degree or middle skill degrees. if you haven't started yet, consider middle skills. almost one in four people with some college only are going to earn more than half of people with bachelor's degree. and closer to one in six high school graduates with some type of training beyond high school earn more than half of bas. so this is call into question what you take, when you take it, where you work with it. >> to the point that you made, you published some data on my site today. i want to put it up on the screen. you said 9% of graduates 23% of workers with some college education but no degree and 28% of associates degree holders earn more than what half of workers with a bachelor's degree earn. expand on that, please. >> so there is a distribution.
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we all know depending on what you take, where you work in terms of the occupation, where you work in terms of industry, unionized, all of these things matter in determining what your income is. but we know that there are many bachelor's degree that take a long time for you to settle in. they take a long time to figure out what's your defined pathway, where you are going to step off to get those jobs. and in the middle skills jobs, particularly in sales, health care support, health care professional and technical, customer service that could pay more than some of these bachelor's degree in the short term. so a quick cost benefit analysis particularly when you care about student loan debt and how much debt people are incurring as a result of trying to get this bachelor's degree, it makes sense to consider alternatives. >> have we oversold college? have too many of us raised our
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kids believing to be successful you have to go to college, when in fact it's not for anybody? and honorable working and high paying work comes from the building trades, by example? >> i wouldn't say we oversold it. many people in the building trades will eventually try to get some sort of managerial training so that they can move into their own business. i think the concern here is that everyone right out of high school does not necessarily have to go straight to a four-year program. you can think of it as stepping stones. let's try this particular two-year program, see how this works, let's try to figure out what works for us. so this time it's more of a very, i guess, forward-thinking approach to how you you create your career pathway rather than following everyone else's footsteps. >> dr. nicole smith, thank you for your time. thank you for your piece, as well. >> thank you so much.
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checking in on social media reaction. what do we have on this subject? interesting, isn't it? you mean i have done all this schooling for nothing? well, i just said that to dr. smith, like there are going to be people who have that. it's of great value to you, but look, the data that she offers is compelling how some people without a college degree are doing these days. will go back to what it was when the job market shifts? in other words, will the companies that i identified saying you don't have to have a college degree, will they alter that when be get further beyond the pandemic? still to come. more of your best and worst tweets, youtube, facebook comments and the final result of this week's poll question. i think that grover norquist laid it out. should every app reporting transactions over $600 over the course of a year to the irs? go vote. then own it support your immune system with a potent blend of n nutrients
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there is the result of this week ag 's poll question. should every app reporting transactions $600 over the course of the year to the irs? 69% say no. 25,000 voted. i get the sentiment and has all the makings of a cluster when people get these 1099 forms? what is the irs underfunded, understaffed to do until they get all that new money to try to track the gig economy? i don't know. social media came in during the course of the program. grateful for smerconish making homeless issues the leaden to the show. two weeks in a row he shined a
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light on this chronic problem. a kind email. how did that get in there? it's important and heartbreaking and i'm part of the problem of those of us who are totally desensitized. you know, especially those of us who are pet lovers. if it were a dog or a cat on that vent, we'd never walk on by. and somehow it's become so easy to walk on by. that's why i give eric adams credit and i hope he is successful. another one. what else do we have? i'm unaffiliated voter for reasons you stated but the fact you are taking sinema's party change at face value is laughable. look, even if she is cynical and wants to survive primary season, i think it's a great thing. we need more i's. i can't wait say the i's have it. see you next week.