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with laila harrak. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world, i'm laila harrak. ahead on "cnn newsroom" -- from historic win and celebrations to heartache and tributes for a sporting world legend. we will break down all the highs and lows from the world cup in qatar. plus, part of a cliff collapses on to a beach in california as millions nationwide brace for a storm system that could bring more danger ahead. we're live at the cnn weather center with the latest. and nasa's historic artemis mission is coming to a close. in the coming hours the unmanned spacecraft will make its return after going further into space than any spacecraft before.
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♪ well, after three weeks of grueling competition only four teams are left standing at the world cup and it's a picture very few could have predicted. for the first time ever the semi-finals will include teams from south america, europe and africa. the contests will start tuesday with argentina taking on croatia and will continue on wednesday with the defending champs france taking on morocco, the first african team to reach the final four. fans in morocco have been celebrating their team's dream run which was extended after another win against a top team. morocco knocked out portugal and its star player cristiano ronaldo to book its spot. france advanced to the final four following a win over
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england. it was a close match that was decided in the final minutes when england missed a penalty kick that would have tied it. we will have more on that match and other world cup action from saturday a little later on in the show. as the world cup continues journalists are mourning one of their own. u.s. reporter grant wall died doing what he loved, covering soccer. he collapsed at the argentina/netherlands match on friday. the 49-year-old had spoken days before feeling unwewunwell, but cause of death remains unclear. fifa is among those honoring wall. flowers and pictures of the journalist were placed in the media section ahead of the england versus france match on saturday. while wall was passionate about soccer but he wasn't always a fan of fifa. he was critical of corruption at
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the organization. he also opposed qatar hosting the tournament over its human rights record. he was detained last month in qatar wearing a shirt in support of lgbtq rights. cnn medical analyst dr. leana wen spoke about wall's delgt and what, if any, ties it may have to symptoms he reported earlier. >> there is so much that we just don't know. we heard about his sudden collapse, we heard about this viral illness that preceded it but we don't know whether these two things are necessarily related. people get viral illnesses all the time, this is the season when many people have colds or the flu or the other things and especially for somebody who is generally young and what it sounds like pretty wealthy, it's extremely rare for them to die, much less to die suddenly from that viral illness and also for people who do die it ends up it's not usually sudden, in fact, there is gradual deterioration, somebody may be getting short of breath, they are in the hospital, et cetera so that sudden death it could be
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related. i mean, there are possibilities, maybe the viral illness -- we don't know this, but maybe the viral illness somehow affected the heart in some way, but there are other possibilities, too, including whether the sudden death could be caused by a sudden heart rhythm problem or a heart attack or a blood clot. again, we just don't know and, again, it's just so tragic at this point. the biden administration is also reacting to wahl's death, cnn's arlette saenz has details from the white house. >> reporter: the white house offered condolences to the family of grant wahl and also detailed some of the contact the biden administration has had with his family and officials in qatar where he passed away while covering the world cup. white house press secretary karine jean-pierre tweeted on saturday saying, quote, grant wahl was an inspiration to many. our thoughts are with his wife and those who loved him.
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state department officials are in touch with grant's family and with senior officials in the government of qatar to ensure his family gets the support they need. this statement largely mirrored what we heard from the state department which said they had been in close communication with wahl's family as well as officials in the country. it's also worth noting that dr. celine gounder, the wife of grant wahl, has very close ties to this white house, she served on the coronavirus advisory board for then president-elect biden during the transition period, so certainly many of the thoughts here at the white house are with celine gounder and her family and they mourn the passing of grant wahl and wait to learn more details about his death. arlette saenz, cnn, the white house. in southern california there are concerns of moreland slides after part of a coastal cliff gave way in los angeles county. here is a moment the rocky wall came crumbling down.
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luckily no one was injured but the massive collapse forced the closure of a beach. meantime, a major storm -- winter storm is pummeling parts of the western u.s. with heavy snow and rain. at least 9 million people in more than a dozen states are under storm alerts through monday. flood warnings are up for parts of california while some places in the sierras can expect as much as 5 feet of snow. for the latest update on the winter storm let's go straight to cnn meteorologist britley ritz. >> what exactly is happening the storm is far from over, between the flooding threat along the coastline of california to the sierras bringing in almost 6 feet of snow by the time the system is done, rolling into monday. so all that moisture gets pushed on to shore and we have winter storm warnings for the sierras, parts of the rockies under either a winter weather advisory warning or winter storm watch which extends up into the
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dakotas and parts of the upper midwest where nearly 12 million people are now under some sort of winter weather alert. the highest amount of snowfall expect that through the sierras, again, above 5,000 feet where we can pick up nearly 6 feet of snow when the system is all said and done through monday, but we are expecting heavy snow again through parts of the central rockies as well where travel is not advised. not only that but we mentioned the flood threat. along the coastline of california, caramel valley, down into san diego as well as l.a. we are already experiencing landslides on already saturated ground. 1, 2, possibly even 3 inches of rain expected just within the next 48 hours as the system continues to take its track farther east. we have flood alerts in effect, be mindful of that, if you do come across a roadway don't drive through t flooding threats expand into the central plains and back into the tennessee
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valley where we have had a stalled front over the past week. we've already picked up 2, 3, 4 inches of rain and we're adding to that within the upcoming week. all the way through wednesday where we could pick up another 1 to 2 inches of rain, the heavier stays along the gulf coast. all that moisture coming in from the gulf of mexico, the boundaries and lift plus instability, so now we're dealing with a threat for severe weather coming into monday, tuesday and wednesday. the greatest threats, going to be long lived tornadoes where we have all the right conditions rolling into tuesday into southern arkansas and northern louisiana but this extends into pens towards the florida panh panhandle. >> thank you so much. wnba star brittney griner continues to undergo a medical evaluation at a u.s. army hospital in texas following her ten-month detention in russia. griner's wife posted an update on saturday saying in part as bg and i start our journey to heal our minds, bodies and spirits i
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wanted to personally say thank you to some of the hands seen and unseen that helped make it possible for me to see my wife again. cherelle griner also called for imprisoned american paul whelan and others to be brought home. the biden administration says it tried to include whelan in the prisoner swap with griner, but russia refused. in los angeles karen bass is set to make history as the city's first female mayor. she will also be the first woman of color in the post. bass will be sworn into office later today by vice president kamala harris. harris also endorsed bass during her campaign. bass' six-term congressman was on president biden's short list for a running mate during his 2020 campaign. bass has said that tackling los angeles homelessness issue is her top priority in her first
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100 days. saturday was winter graduation day at the university of idaho. the school attended by four college students who were killed last month. the ceremony normally an occasion for celebration had a somber feeling. there were tributes to the four young people found stabbed to death in their off-campus home including a moment of silence. investigators say they're making progress and sorting through thousands of tips, but no arrests have been made. they're asking for the public's help finding a white hyundai elantra spotted near the victim's home on the day of the killings. russia takes heat from ukraine after moscow's new attack on ukraine's energy system. still ahead, the latest as kyiv takes aim at russian-held targets after a major ukrainian city is left in the dark. plus vladimir putin's war takes a center stage at the
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to give ukraine a head start on future reconstruction on friday. the council approved more than $18 billion in loans for ukraine's short-term financial needs and that includes repairing its infrastructure and making the first steps toward post-war reconstruction. help is also coming from norway which is pledging $100 million for fixing up ukraine's energy system. we're getting reports that ukraine is firing back after russia knocked out power to the city of odesa. president volodymyr zelenskyy says iranian made drones hit key power facilities around the city on saturday leaving it largely in the dark. this is how he described the situation in his evening address. >> translator: the key for today is energy. the situation in odesa region is very difficult after the night strike, the strike by iranian drones, odesa and other cities and villages of the region are in the dark. as of this time more than $1.5
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million people in odesa region are without electricity, only critical infrastructure is connected and as much as it is possible to supply electricity. >> but now ukraine says its missiles later hit the occupied city of malitopol. a russian news agency said the same happened in the russian held eastern ukraine. while unconfirmed reports are discussing widespread attacks. first we go to sam kiley in kyiv. sam, what's the situation like there on the ground? i understand ukraine has been launching attacks on self-proclaimed donetsk k and m leet poll. >> reporter: it's these attacks on malitopol which has been confirmed by both sides.
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of course, there is a lot of disinformation but we have now got the confirmation that malitopol which is an important town strategically in russian hands one of the cities taken early on in the russian campaign it's been a hot bed of resistance against the russian occupation, it has a mayor and other administration outside of the city still being sponsored effectively by the ukrainians and it also is likely to be a significant target if the ukrainians launch an offensive in the southern sector. they haven't been, it is expect that had they may well do that, particularly if they could take the pressure off the east of the country where fighting is intense around bakhmut. also they're hitting at the crimean annex. that has been the target of successive ukrainian attacks over the last few months but
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they are intensifying as it seems that the ukrainians are getting more confident and perhaps more able to actually produce their own missiles and drones capable of reaching now deep into russian-held territory to go after some of those more strategic locations such as the port in crimea and also potentially airports. >> sam, we heard president zelenskyy describe the situation in odesa as very difficult. ukraine's power infrastructure we understand continues to be targeted. is there any power in odesa? >> reporter: at the moment there is according to the government only essential services are being powered in odesa, following these latest air strikes by the ukrainians say russian drones. odesa has so far been spared a lot of the worst of these attacks on the infrastructure, the energy infrastructure of ukraine. the country suffered at least eight mass attacks by drones and
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cruise missiles. it had been assumed by the ukrainians that perhaps the russians were running out of these missiles, in particular running out of these cheap ukrainian-made drones, but it would appear that they've used about 15 in this latest attack on odesa. the ukrainians say they shot down ten of them but of course if you send enough into the air they can overwhelm the air defenses and of course, again, the ukrainians constantly are asking now for more and more air defenses in order to keep these sorts of attacks at bay. so that places like odesa can continue to be spared what is potentially a catastrophic outage. the ukrainians also are very quick usually to repair things. i imagine by the end of the day they will have most of the power to odesa back up and running, that has been the pattern in the past. >> sam kiley reporting from kyiv, ukraine. thank you for your continued coverage. let's go now to barbie nadeau in rome. norway and the eu freeing up
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funds to help ukraine. what more have you learned? >> reporter: it's interesting because this isn't military aid, we are talking about this $18 billion package this is for post-war rebuilding and restructuring and a large chunk from norway with its $100 million pledge goes directly to infrastructure. something that president zelenskyy was very much appreciative, let's hear what he had to say about it. >> translator: there is a new support package from this country in the amount of $100 million. and precisely for the restoration of our energy system after these russian strikes. i think all norwegians for this decision, i'm thankful to the government. in general we receive defense, economic and very important political support from norway, as well as a lot of humanitarian assistance. norway also helps with the purchase of gas. we will work together on the reconstruction of ukraine. >> reporter: and, you know,
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that's really, really important because this is really looking beyond the war now, we're looking at, you know, europe says they are not going to abandon ukraine, they want ukraine to be part of the european community to some extent and that's something that is forward-looking. again, this isn't military aid, this is restructuring money that's going to go to the future of ukraine not the present right now. >> barbie nadeau reports, thank you so much. convicted russian arms trafficking viktor bout now back in russia is offering his full-throated support for moscow's invasion of ukraine saying he would volunteer if he could. bout had been serving a 25-year prison sentence in the u.s. when he was set free on thursday in a controversial swap for american basketball star brittney griner. while many u.s. officials opposed the trade fearing bout would use his trafficking skills against ukraine and the west. a russian lawmaker said on
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social media that the first thing bout asked him was how can i help donbas? a russian nobel peace prize laureate is blasting president vladimir putin and his invasion of ukraine. he is the chairman of the russian human rights group memorial. at an awards ceremony in norway on saturday he slammed russia's, quote, insane and criminal war. >> translator: in russia hatred is incited against ukraine, its culture and language are publicly declared inferior and the ukrainian people are deemed not to have a separate identity from russians. resistance to russia is called fascism. >> memorial was ordered to close by russia's supreme court last year. it was co-awarded this year's peace prize along with ukraine's center for civil liberties and the jailed belarusian activist whose wife accepted the award on
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world cup semi-finals are now booked and for the first time ever it will include a team from africa. the matches start tuesday with argentina taking on croatia and they will continue on wednesday with the underdogs morocco playing against defending champs france. while the french team punched their ticket to the semi-finals with a thrilling victory over england. france's supporters were ecstatic with the outcome, it was a hard fought match that was decided in the last ten minutes or so. the french scored an amazing header to take the lead toward the end and england's harry kaine had a chance to tie it but miss td a crucial penalty kick giving france a 2-1 win. amanda davies and todd lewis are in qatar with more on france's victory and hunt for another
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title. >> reporter: so it was the defending champions france who booked their place in the semifinal at the expense of england after a tense night inside the tent stadium as it's known. darren lewis was inside alongside me. i know we are not necessarily neutral in this scenario, but what do you think, was it a fair result? >> i think it was. i think france took their chances, england didn't take theirs. harry kane reliable from the spot missing. i think as far as france were concerned they were razor sharp in the moments that they needed to be. that's why they are already champions and that's why they look as though they're going to do it again. >> so much of the buildup to this game had been about kill yan embappe but he wasn't the
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one in the headlines. >> as far as france are concerned they are where they are because they have leaders, the young real madrid infielder with a fine first goal, why so many clubs wanted to sign him. and then the veteran, 36 years of age, so many people play him down, he talks himself up, does his talking with his goes scoring to mimicself or consolidate his position as france's all time top scorer. a wonderful performance not necessarily aesthetically pleasing on the eye but a performance of leadership. >> how do you think england will reflect heading home. there is no doubt the image that will be remembered from the evening that was captain harry kane with his head in his hands having missed that penalty at full time, but how will they reflect? >> i think they will reflect on a fine performance, a number of good individual performances.
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drew bellingham took the game by the scruff of the neck in the second half. kane had a header go narrowly wide off the back post. but kane will be absolutely destroyed. normally so good from the penalties, his record is outstanding. he likes to assume responsibility for the club and his country and he's done that on so many occasions but on this one he fell short. they will have regrets because this was a team they could have beaten and they didn't take it. >> so england heading home, france through to the semifinal where they will take on morocco. briefly, i think it's going to be a spectacle. what are you looking forward to? >> the i remember resistance force that is france against the immovable object that is morocco. only one goal conceded in the entire tournament so far. they love defending and i think this will be a wonderful clash of styles. >> france become the first
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defending champions to make it through to the semifinal of a world cup since 1998. they're very much hoping they can go one step further than that and become the first back to back world champions since 1962. a scene of jubilation in casa blanca after morocco advanced to the final four becoming the first african country to do so. they pulled off another win against a top team. morocco knocked out portugal and cristiano ronaldo left in tears. this was likely his last chance to win the world cup title. earlier i woke about morocco's dream run with a sports journalist from morocco and i asked him how the team has been able to pull off such an incredible feat.
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>> i think the spirit is there, the motivation is there and obviously the sporting performance is there. so i think hugely part of a mentality shift. >> so what does this all mean for morocco? >> everything. everything. seeing on national team performing like this and going all the way to world cup semifinal it means everything. let's just say after two and a half years of covid crisis and all its consequences i think moroccan people not only morocco but throughout the world need this had joy and pride to feel about their national team. >> our thanks there to mohammed for his insights there. in the next hour we will be live in doha with more on the world cup. still ahead, some children in the uk wouldn't have anything to eat if it weren't for the
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that's actually super adult of you to suggest. i can't wait to squad up. i love it when you talk nerdy to me. guy, guys, guys, we're still in session. and i don't know what the heck you're talking about. tens of thousands protested in the streets of the capital of bangladesh to demand the resignation of the prime minister. the rally was organized by the nationalist party, the country's main opposition. the demonstrators blamed the prime minister for rising fuel prices and the soaring cost of living. they want his or her to step down for new elections under a caretaker government. the prime minister has called
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opposition leaders arson terrorists and western officials have expressed concerns about her government's response to the protests. despite global condemnation of the execution and the crackdown on demonstrators, iran vowed saturday that the punishment of protesters would continue. according to state affiliated media iran's deputy interior minister says punitive measures, quote, will definitely go on. on friday another iranian figure signaled additional executions will take place in the coming days. the u.n. says 11 more iranian protesters have been sentenced to death. at least 20 people were injured during clashes in southern perú, four police officer. the motive for saturday's protests is not clear, but it took place in one of several towns where people have taken to the streets demanding the release of ousted and now jailed former president pedro castillo.
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perú's new president named her new cabinet just days after castillo was sacked by congress and later arrested for rebellion and conspiracy. castillo has been accused of attempt to go dissolve the legislature to prevent an impeachment vote. a man held hostage saturday in germany shutting down the famous christmas market there has died. two people were held at a store near the market police say while they were rescuing them the suspect was mortgagely wounded. they say the 40-year-old man is also suspected of killing his mother before the hostage taking. police say the man appeared to have siej logical problems. the two hostages were not injured. well, the holidays will be bleak for many people across the uk, they're struggling just to put food on the stable. cnn's nada bashir looks at how the rising cost of living is impacting thousands of working
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families. >> reporter: for some children at the south london school, lunch might be their only meal for the day. it's a reality for many families across the uk. the cost of living crisis making even the most basic necessities difficult to afford. for this family supporter it's an issue at the for front of her mind. >> even our dinner ladies are noticing that some children in particular are asking for more food but i think it's really, really sad when people have to decide am i going to heat my house or am i going to do a big shop. >> reporter: this single mom is one of the many parents now struggling to put food on the table, despite working nights at a local supermarket, she says she has on occasion been forced to send her kids to school hungry. and is now having to rely on a local food bank. >> sometimes you choose in
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between food, heating, things for the children and basic things for the children, clothes, shoes, so, yeah, we are feeling it. >> reporter: she is not alone. thousands of working families across britain are having to make difficult decisions every day to cut back on costs. according to a survey from the food foundation, nearly 4 million children were forced to eat less or skip meals in september alone. while official figures show that the number of students depending on government support for free school meals has continued to rise since 2019 with nearly 2 million pupils eligible at the beginning of this year, but with uk inflation now at an eye watering 11% and food prices rising by more than 16% over the last year, the situation isn't improving and the pressure is being felt by both parents and schools. >> government are definitely
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completely out of touch. i think they actually need to come and spend a day in a school and actually see what we are dealing with day in and day out. >> reporter: schools have become a vital force of support for many struggling parents, stretched between paying skyrocketing household bills or paying for their weekly food shop. and with the holidays fast approaching, there are more difficult decisions to be made. some parents now foregoing christmas presents just to keep their children fed and warm. >> definitely won't be no extras this year. the time when i struggle the most is when the children are off school because breakfast, lunch, three meals a day. that's when i will be struggling the most this year. >> reporter: nada bashir, cnn, london. tropical cyclone medusa hit india's coastal state killing at least four people and damaging dozens of homes. up to a quarter of a meter of
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rain fell in the state capital. more than the average precipitation for december. a local official said more than 9,000 people were moved to safety to some 200 relief camps as authorities try to remove uprooted trees from the roads. a marine fossil just discovered in australia a being paired to the rosetta stone which helped decode ancient languages. the 100 million-year-old skeleton found on a cattle station in the queensland outback is being hailed as a break through that may provide vital clues about prehistoric life. >> there's still so much we don't know about these animals that were swimming in this ancient inland sea 100 million years ago including how many species of these long-necked plesiosaurs, for example, as simple as that how many species there were we don't know exactly. this animal had a has a head with a body attached to it
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allows us to unravel some of that species diversity. >> while some amateur pale i don't know tolling gists called the rock chicks made the discovery. the three go around australia hunting for fossils. just ahead, the artemis i mission is almost over as nasa officials wait for the orion space cap actual to reenter earth's atmosphere on sunday. i will ask an expert what we've learned from this test flight for a return to the moon.
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nasa's historic artemis i mission is set to splash down off the coast of california later today. let's take a look at the mission by the numbers. according to nasa the uncrewed spacecraft took a 25-day trip around the moon, total distance traveled 1.3 million miles, and the re-entry speed will be more than 24,000 miles an hour. michael holmes looks at what lies ahead for this ambitious space program.
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>> reporter: the lead up to the artemis i launch might have been a bumpy ride after a series of delays due to technical glitches and bad weather, but nasa says once it's mega rocket got off the ground it's been smooth sailing. >> we got to witness the world's most powerful rocket take the earth by its edges and shake the wicket out of it and it was quite a sight. >> reporter: after three and a half weeks in space filled with engine burns, lunar fly-bys and stunning views of the earth and the moon, nasa's orion spacecraft is almost home. but before it splashed down it needs to pass a critical test. in one of the most nail biting times of the re-entry process, the orion capsule will separate from its service module, then complete a skip maneuver off the edge of the earth's atmosphere which will bring it closer to its landing site and cut don on the g forces that future astronauts will have to endure.
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after that all eyes are on the heat shield as orion blazes back to earth at temperatures twice as hot as molten lava. nasa says the heat shield has been tested more than 1,000 times and making sure it can take the heat is one of the primary goals this have mission. from the outset the uncrewed mission has been a dry run to make sure the spacecraft is safe enough for astronauts to fly on board. >> we are stressing it and testing it in ways that we will not do to a rocket that has a human crew on it. >> reporter: if artemis i is a success it will be followed by artemis ii which like the first mission will fly around the moon but this time with a crew, that will be followed by artemis iii which intends to return astronauts to the moon surface including the first woman and person of color. later missions will aim even
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further with the goal of sending astronauts to mars, but nasa says before any of that happens the orion capsule must successfully complete its journey on sunday. >> as we progress, we will spend -- we will land on the moon, we will step foot on the moon and then we will extend the time we're on the moon longer and longer. >> reporter: michael holmes, cnn. i want to bring in the executive director of the american institute of aeronautics and astronaut particulars. he joins me now from maryland. very good day. how did this test flight go? >> this test flight is going absolutely fantastic. tomorrow we have the re-entry and the return and the landing, a high risk event, but hopefully it will all go well. >> what has nasa learned from this trip to the moon? >> nasa has learned a tremendous amount. we've learned, number one that is correct all of the launch systems and the spacecraft
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systems are working basically as we had planned, we've learned a few things along the way to make it better the next time around and by all indications short of what we will learn tomorrow, the systems are ready to put astronauts and crew on it and return to the moon. >> how close did the capsule get to the moon? >> the capsule a couple of times got within 70 or 60 miles as i recall, but it also went the furthest that a spacecraft has ever gone from earth out beyond the moon and that was intentional so that we could learn as much as possible. >> and so how close would you say are we to a manned mission to the moon? because i understand this mission didn't have people on board, but when will people ride this rocket? >> artemis ii is scheduled a couple years down the road. the hardware is all coming together, there's already
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spacecraft hardware in florida, the launch vehicle is coming together at the assembly facility near new orleans, so the hardware is coming. they need to put it together, get it all checked out and it will be ready to go. >> and realistically when will we see humans return to the moon surface? >> well, we have to get the human landing system in place, probably no earlier than 2025 and the nasa team is working hard to make all into happen. >> as you know, the rocket is huge, the price tag astronomical. a lot of questions are raised about if this is a sustainable project. it's very exciting but is it sustainable? what would you tell people who question if nasa should really build this moon program around such an expensive rocket? >> well, i would say, first of all, the first time -- first couple of times you build it and fly it will be expensive.
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what we learn along the way with get the costs down. nasa already has plans along with the industry team to get those costs reduced significantly and along with everything we learn we have established -- reestablished the launch capability and being able to return people and payload to the moon for the first time since 1972 and this is an important set of capability as we work to extend the human neighborhood, build the space economy and get to sustainable operations on the moon. >> exactly, i wanted to ask you about that. in terms of what's the wider objective here? yes, it's exciting to send people to the moon but what's the goal? >> the goal from an exploration perspective is to person how humans live and work on the moon. remember when we went in an polo went to the lunar equator and now the artemis system gives us the ability to explore all over the moon and it then provides us
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the capability as we learn to go on to mars and beyond. along with this, this will be the beginning of opening up the space economy, all the way from lower earth orbit out to the lunar surface and opening up new opportunity for generations to come. >> thank you so much for talking to us. >> my pleasure. have a great evening. and take a look at these pictures from the hubble telescope, the first one is using blue filters to get a look at what's called a globular cluster. this next photo is the same cosmic neighborhood but looks very different because a red filter was used. it is thought that these stars are about 100 million years old. by the way, that's considered relatively young for a star.
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