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i have no idea if people are good. i have no sense. what i do know is that how the republicans responded to this attack was so unforgivable. >> good morning, everyone. that was alexandra pelosi, daughter of house speaker nancy pelosi reacting to jokes and conspiracy is about her father's attack. going to talk about much, much more pap wide-ranging interview. more on that and preview of her new documentary on her mother a little later on, but first, from the top of the crypto market to
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being arrested in the bahamas, the charges the s.e.c. just announced against the founder of the failed crypto exchange ftx. also, major surge at the southern border. more than 2,400 migrants crossed over into the u.s. over the southern border just this weekend and officials say it may just be the beginning. new cnn reporting also how brittney griner is readjustments to life back in the united states after ten months in russian detention. first, this just in to cnn. the securities and exchange commission charged with fraud. now accused of or straighting a years' long -- according to s.e.c., crypto house of cards, quote/unquote. arrested in bahamas on charges filed here in new york. bankman-fried suggested he had no idea what was coming just before the sealed indictment was
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unsealed and announced last night. >> are you worried you might be detained if you stepped foot into the u.s.? >> i don't believe i would be, but i haven't done a, like, deep dive into that. at some point, something i have to think harder about. >> so what will he be charged with? what the "new york times" is reporting. bankman-fried will face charges in new york for wire faurd and securities, conspiracy fraud and conspiracy as well as money laundering. bringing in former federal prosecutor and good morning to you both. a real question, mainly because crypto is so unregulated. what could authorities do here? they've brought these charges. >> what you see from the s.e.c. complaint just put out this morning, i read through it. it's 28 pages. even though crypto is confusing, sort of mystical to some people, the allegations are straightforward and bread and butter for securities fraud.
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if you tell people you're going to take their money and handful in one way and do the opposite thas that is the basis for most security fraud charges. what i'm told here. money segregated between ftx and hedge fund saying one account. this money used for investments. they say allegations are he took out $1.3 billion in loans to himself and used that money to buy condos, real estate for his family, fund large political donations and other venture investments. a simple, i'm going to manage your money, don, i can't do something with it i've told you i won't. >> let me ask you, kara, not sure, maybe both of you. the concern that we, it was thought, maybe he couldn't be kr charged with anyone because he's not regulated. people wondering, well, what happened? why is he charged now? >> i think that there was a lot of confusion about what the actual evidence would be here,
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and, again, this is a perfect example why anybody should never talk and make statements when they're potentially implicated in any criminal enterprise. a lot of interviewing he's given, and now it looks like there's, they're moving ahead with charges clearly shows federal prosecutors believe not only they have evidence, that they it prove beyond a reasonable doubt he intentionally engaged in defrauding schemes and other criminal conduct. to the ebs txtent just bad busi management and wouldn't have to face any sort of criminal allegations obviously was very short-sighted and clearly it can be regulated, certainly. >> seem to indicate more charges are coming. seems like, if you read the filing. are you surprised he's the only person charged, and what does the timeline look like from him coming from the bahamas, where he was arrested last night, back to the united states? does it happen immediately, take weeks? >> moving relatively quickly.
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this is rapid speed to bring a complicated massive securities case. seem to want to put a marker out on him. out on a publicity blitz talking about this and major question where people's money -- billions of dollars. where is this money for various people? wanted to move quickly and he is co-founder. seems based on the complaint have a lot of evidence specific to him the one interacting directly with investors making statements at basis of the charges. as for the extradition, he'll appear around 10:00 a.m.hamas t. they're also investigating him and have to do the extrication process. it's not clear when he'll be in a new york court to face these charges. >> what i'm reading, the "times" story about this saying the united states -- it's unclear. bahama have has an extra addition process with the united states that can take weeks sometimes far longer if a criminal defendant contests it.
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if he contests it it can take longer. >> absolutely true. bahamian authorities intend to fully cooperate with the united states and expedite the process as much as possible to hold him accountable under u.s. law here. certainly there could be contesting that, but it will prolong the inevitable, seems, and he will face charges here in the u.s. >> what about the folks ho lost money? what does it mean for them. >> see where the money is, how much can be recovered and reclaimed. pushed out in november put in a turnaround expert, and some of testimony was shocking. testimony before the house financial services committee and just, i mean, what he said here is, just sounds like a free for all. no internal controls. had no financial statements. so it's been, you know, putting together this puzzle to understand where this money is. i think there's still a bit of a way to go before people who put money in this know how much they
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might recover. >> all right. >> one way to get out of a congressional hearing. >> gosh. exactly. facing something -- >> i don't know. >> might have preferred that after this. thank you, ladies, both very, very much. >> thank you. this morning, a major surge in the legal crossings at the southern border. a senior border patrol official says hundreds of migrants crossed into the u.s. near el paso over the weekend. more staying just across the border and to that, juarez, mexico. raising concerns are more crossings when the title 42 crossing ends later on this month. joined live from washington, d.c. with have more. good morning, priscilla, how are border patrol handling this influx? >> reporter: exactly what's generating concern within the u.s. and the border patrol. ahead of this, title 42 ending next week, you mentioned. a senior border patrol says a three-day average more than 2,400 daily encounters over the
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weekend meaning hundreds of people crossing into just one section of the u.s.-mexico border placing a strain on what has already been overwhelmed resources. the senior border official calling it a "major surge in illegal crossings." don, i have been speaking to people who say migrants are growing desperate. they've been arriving over weeks and months and waiting for the moment to cross into the united states. e were saw some of that this weekend. the city says that they are monitoring the situation. they're working with the state and federal partners and homeland security secretary of state alejandro mayorkas will actually be in el paso today to meet with officials. >> congress asked to green light $3 billion in funding a title 42 comes to an end. what is the money for, and do you think the president's request will be granted? >> reporter: the money is ultimately for border management and a sores says technology assistance. this as they prepare for end of
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title 42. the source told me not directly tied to that but of course comes during a critical time. the ask is before congress and the administration meantime trying to shore this up in hopes of preparing for what thexpect to be a surge of migrants end of this authorize next week. >> from washington following the story, thank you very much. priscilla alvarez. this morning a haircut, slam dunk and real san antonio barbecue, how brittney griner is ending her first week back on u.s. soil after detained in russia ten months. griner, you know, landed in texas frafter being part of a prisoner swap. taken to a medical evaluation area and has a christmas tree, upbeat, thankful, hopeful. cnn political anchor of "inside
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politics" is here, abby, you interviewed her wife while brit ptny was detained and talking about what the experience has been like. i wonder what did she want to do which she got back and ways she's been spending her time here? >> reporter: seems, kaitlan, trying to give her a taste what her normal life was like. one of the very first things she did was have a dr. pepper after getting off that plane. look, it was a really emotional day for everyone involved. she was greeted when she landed by her wife and agent. very small group, but over the weekend that group really expanded to include her broader family, who i'm told spent many, marsh her. they brought her that barbecue. wan of the interesting things i learned talking to her agent over the weekend, while in russia her russian lawyer in an attempt to kind of make her feel a little bit more at home
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learned how to make brisket for her and slow cooked brisket for her and gave it to her. obviously nothing like san antonio barbecue but she got a taste of the real thing this weekend. this is going to be a really long journey, and i think everyone around her right now is focused on her physical rehabilitation, i'm told. she is physically doing quite well, also her psychological rehabilitation. making her feel more in control of her life. that's part of this government program that other detainees like trevor reed have gone through. brittney griner will go through that program long as she wants to do try to rebuild her sense of self after detention. >> obviously a life-altering thing for anyone, abby. i find this interesting and my question is going to be how does this change her into the future. you would expect and it would be okay if someone wanted to go inside themselves and just close off, but i found it interesting she wanted to immediately, even on the plane, reach out to other
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people. fight for other people. i want to relate to other people. i wonder if this takes her in a different way into a similar direction as maybe -- and, a colin kaepernick fight for the larger thing rather than just the sport. know what i'm saying? >> reporter: absolutely. one of the clearest things i gathered from talking to people around her. even heard it from cherelle when at the white house on friday. this changes everything. you know, brittney griner in the world of wnba, in the world of basketball, is a pretty big name. a pretty big star, but i think even more so now, her notoriety is global, and she understands the responsibility that comes with that, and has been pretty clear she wants to use what power she has to help other people. they are now part of this community. it's a community of families, dozens of them, across the country, whose loved ones are
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detained across the world. some of those individuals never came home. they died in detention, and so i think the weight of that, really, she carries that with her, and her agent told me that she asked about paul whelan immediately upon, you know, being freed, and that she's known for a long time, or believed for a long time, that her fate was very much tied to his, and i think was heartbroken he was not brought home along with her. so she's very committed to that particular case, but i was told that is planning to use her platform. the bully pulpit she has, to help others in the future. that's going to change her approach to her public life. it's not just going to be activities in, you know, in phoenix that i think a lot of athletes, you know, participate in. i think it's going to have a global scope. >> before you go, i want to ask quickly. maybe, i don't know if you can answer this -- i'm sure they'll pay attention
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to the respect for marriage act? question about it. can you react to that? >> reporter: you know, i think definitely going to pay attention to that. i mean, i think that as a, you know, a lesbian black woman, they have become a really prominent image of love in the lgbtq community, and, you know, one of the things just meeting, on a personal note, meeting cherelle and just seeing how much that love that they have for each other was able to withstand this incredible trial, cherelle calls brittney griner her best friend. they were friends for a long time before they became a couple, and so for this to happen and for them to be reunited today i think it's an important moment for both of them, and it's an important moment for the country. i will say, don, i want to add one thing. her agent was very clear with me. she was like, i don't think that
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brittney was treated differently because she was black and lesbian in russian detention. something a lot of people were paying attention to and notable to me she said that. >> i saw that in i don't report. very good stuff. >> thanks, abby. >> reporter: thanks, guys. good to see you. in for a big week on the health of the economy and the consumer price index for november comes out next hour and expected to show inflation cooled a little bit last month from 7.7% in october to an estimated 7.3% in november. the federal reserve, of course, watching this very closely as it meets today and then, of course, tomorrow they will announce their decision on interest rates likely another hike, but likely not as big as we've seen recently. wall street is expecting a half percentage point. or 50 basis points smaller than the last four major hikes. treasury secretary janet yellen sounding cautiously optimistic where things are headed. listen -- >> well, i believe by end of next year you will see much lower inflation if there's not
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an unanticipated shock. >> you have said this, you do not believe there will be a recession next year? >> there's a risk of recession, but it certainly isn't, in my view, something that is necessary to bring inflation down. >> u.s. stock futures looking higher this morning. pretty optimistic as well. we'll bring you that inflation report once it comes out in just over an hour. we mentioned, president biden set to sign the marriage act into law and a big question from some, does it go far enough? it is historic. >> it's historic. we will discuss all of this with the country's first openly gay confirmed cabinet member and transportation secretary pete buttigieg. also ahead, take you to a california hospital that like many across the country is forced to get creative to combat the tripledemic. >> hmm.
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really is a historic day today. today president joe biden expected to sign the respect for marriage act into law. it's a landmark piece of legislation that the white house touts as a major civil rights achievement. the legislation aims to protect interracial and same-sex marriage. same-sex marriage is already legal in the united states and has been since the supreme court decision that was back in 2015. so is interracial marriage because of the high court's decision on loving versus virginia in 1967. so why now is the question? why is today's signing, bill
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signing, on the south lawn such a big deal? well, the supreme court's move to overturn roe versus wade ending the constitutional right to an abortion raised huge concerns that the court's conservative majority could take aim at same-sex marriage in the future and justice clarence thomas foreshadowed that wright, i quote, in future cases we should consider all the substantive due process presidents including griswald, berger and -- it will not set a national requirement all states much legalize same-sex marriage but require individual states to recognize another state's legal marriage adding an extra layer of protection against future legal challenges. >> it will give peace of mind to millions of lgbtq+ and interracial couples who will
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finally be guaranteed the rights and protections to which they and their children are entitled to. the legislation also enjoys support from majority of americans across party lines and faiths. >> so joining us now is transportation secretary pete buttigieg, who is the first openly gay cabinet member in the u.s. to be confirmed by the senate. mayor pete, secretary pete, it's so, so good to have you here to discuss this, considering your role and, listen, because of your platform, where you are now, and what you've achieved. i just have a very human question. i wonder what this means to you, to your husband chasten, your twins, and your daughter, what this signing means to you and many americans today? >> well, it's -- it's a huge relief. look, our marriage has been the cornerstone of our family life. the more so since we've become parents to our amazing twins, our son and our daughter, but
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for as long as we've been married we've also lived knowing that that marriage only exists by the grace of a single vote on the united states supreme court. this changes that. it says as a matter of law that no matter what the court does, we wouldn't have to, for example, worry about which state we were traveling to, to know whether we would be able to, in an emergency, catch up to one another in a hospital, and by the way, that's not a theoretical experience for us or for millions of americans. you know, last year when our son was hospitalized, i was able to catch up to chasten and he was able to relieve me as we took turns being at our son's bedside 24/7. those are the kinds of things that are at stake in making sure that marriage is uniformly protected across the country. things like doing your taxes, and really just ordinary everyday things. but i think the most basic thing
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is that, that cencertainty, tha comfort comes with not just knowing academic answers of nine justices that keeps your life intact, a law by our democratic institutions or congress and our president. there's a long way to go in terms of protections. we still need an equality act says you can't discriminate in this country based on who they are, who they love. but this is really a momentous day and signals washington catching up with the american people. 77% of americans already respect marriage quality. this is just making sure the law of the land does the same. >> one more thing. everyone wants to get in, i think obviously everyone here is anticipating and looking forward to the signing today, but just, it -- i want people to know and i want you to speak about this. this is not political. it's not about democrats versus republican. as you said, majority of
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american people agree with this, but it happens to come from a president who really pushed his own party and as vice president pushed the president of the united states to move to this point. to get this done. >> that's right. there's something poetic about the role that vice president biden played in helping move the country and his party towards the embrace of marriage quality, and now he will be signing it into law. and, you know, it's also fitting, because i think this is an administration that really sees the relationship between big things. big debates and big investments and major laws and everyday life. it's what i have the privilege of in working with the president every day when implementing the infrastructure law, which is how you take enormous investments and authorities and use them to make daily commutes and everyday transportation of goods a little easier and safer and a little
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quicker pup could say the same about this on some level. it's not just about the very deep and grand things at stake around equality and law and above all freedom. it's just about everyday life. you know, our marriage is expressed in the, you know, in the milk i just poured out into the sippy cups in our kitchen before doing this interview. just those -- those little everyday moments that are better if we have good policymakers who care about everyday life and our president most certainly does. >> one of the things so great, mr. secretary, about the piece that -- >> used sippy cups this morning, by the way? >> dude, i leave at 3:00 a.m. as i show you this pictures of us, mr. secretary, probably can't see it but they sit behind our set. don and means a lot to him and to all of us as allies, but
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chasten's piece, what marriage means to me, sippy cups, so great. actually what marriage is. you said a moment ago we need an equality act to codify it, but the supreme court just a week and a half ago heard the 303 creative case which is a religious argument of, a free speech argument, versus an equality argument on whether a website designer needs to make a website for a gay, a couple getting married who's gay, or if that violates harry free speech rights and justices, conservative justices indicated they may well side with her. i wonder are you considered where the court is on this and what it would mean if they do side with her argument? >> well, i'm very concerned, because, again, freedoms are at stake. look, so many americans have deeply-held religious convictions. i have deeply-held religious convictions but i also have no desire to use the instruments of government to force another person to live by my
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interpretation of my religion. part of the idea of america is that people are able to live without having to be subject to other people's interpretation of their own religion. if we go down this path, where you can discriminate, you can refuse to serve a certain customer, you can refuse to provide services to somebody, maybe even a needed emergency services depending on context, based on who they are, or just based on, i guess anything as long as you remember to invoke religion as an excuse that is a really dark and troubling path for our country to go on. we should be able, as, by the way, i think we're doing now in many ways to support the free exercise of religious belief and free speech up to the point where you're about to hurt somebody, and then constitutional freedoms kick in, in another way and say that you can't harm, you can't discriminate, whether your basis for harming or discriminating is religious or otherwise.
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>> mr. secretary, you know, poppy and i, i think all struck by what your husband wrote about what it means for daily life, talking about, you know, the madnesses of the daily routine saying something like this is having the right to juggle it all with the person who makes you feel loved and supported amidst chaos. putting it in a personal context like that. i want you to respond to this republican congresswoman vicky hartzler on the floor on capitol hill pushing back and urging people to vote against this. this is what she, what her message was -- >> i hope and pray that my colleagues will find the courage to join me in opposing this misguided and this dangerous b bill. >> what did you make of that? >> i just wonder if she could see the family life that chasten
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wrote about so movingly in that piece on medium and that, again, at the most important experience in my day, if you believe in family, if you believe in kindness, if you believe in love, then you ought to see what goes on in millions of families, including mine, where the love and the institutional support of marriage that binds me and chasten together, including through hard times and, you know, tug-of-war over who's going to do the dishes when we're both exhausted and, you know, what to do when we run out of, you know, run out of eggs or those puffs that you can put into a little cup with a remarkable bribery effect on getting the kids to settle down, quiet down when in the stroller and minivan, but beneath that, just a -- >> wait, wait. you have a minivan. >> providing the stabilities -- oh, yeah. that's another example of how marriage changes you and kids
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change you. i never thought i would be a minivan person. no. >> you get there. you get there. kids do it to you. >> because of the love of our children. >> funny, i talked to sanjay gupta and i have a whole thing. i'm a dad now and i have a minivan and -- changes you as a dad when you have a minivan. >> i'll be there one day. >> it will happen. you'll be amazed. >> yeah. >> that's how our families change us. the people we care about most, we would do anything for our kids, and i wish -- i wish every member of congress were prepared to do this. look, you can do glass half full or glass half empty. glass half empty, members of congress affecting majority of congressional republicans who refuse to get in line with the view that most americans have about equal dignity for same-sex marriage and equal treatment for anybody in the lgbtq community, and on the other hand, you know, an optimistic take, a remarkable
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number of congressional republicans across party lines defied their party platform in write wering today still opposes marriage equality and said, ways -- and probably did it holding in their mind the image of some person they know and love who, whose world is better, whose life is more stable, who perhaps, like me, feels actually better connected to god through the, the relationships that are solidified in their marriages. they're probably thinking about people they love and putting those people they love over their party platform and that, even if it wasn't 100% or even majority, congressional republicans that is a remarkable thing that happened in today's washington that people are so cynical about. >> secretary buttigieg, thank you. let's just meet one day. your gus, i have a gus, it's gus gus and our fights over who's going to walk the dogs. >> the dog, yeah. that's it. so -- there you go. >> there you go.
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thank you. >> secretary pete, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. all right. ahead on "cnn this morning" also going to talk to the parents of that american college student missing in france. tell you what they're hearing from officials about their son's disappearance. they have big questions. plus hospitals are filling up across the nation. and an unprecedented times, how one doctor referred to the so-called tripledemic. i'm stephanie elam in los angeles arnold how covid, rsv and the flu are overwhelming hospitals across the nation. that's coming up. roster ever created. ♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee. all it takes is eight mites to get started. then work with professionals to assist your business
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musk played in all of that. and a pair of twins so in sync accused of cheating on a test but ended up winning a big lawsuit. their story ahead as well. and the numbers or deaths, hospitalizations and just how many lives were actually saved by the covid vaccine. that's all coming up. back to you. >> thank you. health care workers and hospitals are struggling right now across this country in what's become known as the tripledemic, leaving so many people sick. the big three in this case, covid-19, rsv and the flu. states like new york, washington and new mexico chloe to tap out in terms of hospital beds available. stephanie elam reports from los angeles. >> for a while really worried about covid. >> reporter: anders had good reason to worry after an aortic an yewism last year in the thick of the pandemic. >> open chest surgery. >> reporter: masked up, never caught covid until this month, i
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didn't feel i was invincible, i thought inevitable i would get it. >> reporter: he thinks he caught it at an nfl football game where he let his guard down. >> shoot. forgot my mask. >> reporter: important isly he's recovering at home. >> an unprecedented experience. >> reporter: across the country scenes similar to this. overflow health care workers struggling to catch their breath as hospitals fill with sick patients battling a trifecta of respiratory viruses. covid, rsv and the flu. >> we've seen a real increase in cases particularly since thanksgiving. so covid is up, flu is up and other respiratory viruses are up as well. >> reporter: the situation is so overwhelming at uc san diego held they had to create space using tents and parking lots to tree triage patients. >> patiented waiting for hospital beds and even reconfiguring conference room space to safely care for patients in places we would not normally do it.
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>> reporter: hospitals were full es throughout the pandemic last week. reaching 80% capacity, and 8 percentage point judge in two weeks and the highest since january's omicron surge. >> is the tripledemic as bad as you saw during the height of covid? >> the answer is, not yet. probably most rsv seen in the past decade, really october into november, and now we've seen a rapid decline. that as i said is overlapped this covid rise, which has happened slower, a little later, and then now superimposed by this very rapid rise in influenza. >> reporter: yes, you can get more than one of these viruses at a time. >> the more viruses, the more infections you have, the more, the higher risk of one of them leading to more serious disease. >> reporter: mask mandates haven't returned yet, but virus spikes in new york and seattle have led to health department recommendations to mask up indoors and in crowds. >> feels like i'm on the upswing
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now. >> reporter: as for this man spending last december recovering from his surgery he plans to see his grandparents for the holidays afterest itting, monitoring symptoms and wearing an n95 mask. >> this is our first christmas, you know, normal christmas. >> reporter: and hopefully no less merry, but keep in mind here that these virus spikes really are happening all over the place. add new mexico to sounding the alarms at overwhelming hospitals. to put it perspective near beverly hills and hollywood, to powerhouse directors sidelined recently because of covid. steven spielberg and james cameron missing the premiere of his new "avatar" movie. much as we would like to be done with the viruses they are still running the show. >> stephanie elam, thank you for getting up very early for us, in
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on october 28th a man walked
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into the home of house speaker nancy pelosi in the middle of the night look forge her. instead found her husband paul and went on to assault him, which landed him in the hospital. their daughter alexandra sat down with me to talk about the trauma. why she's lost faith in humanity, and the right-wing conspiracies about the attack. you'll hear from her in just a moment. tonight, though, releasing a new documentary about her mother's life and political service. here's a preview. >> i have a sick sense about the scent of elections and i smell success wherever i go. >> you are impossible to crack. you're always on message! how do you do it? how do you always stay on all the time? you're impossible to crack. you know that? >> yeah, well, i have my sensitivities. >> what does that mean? >> that means i have to be sensitive to the impact of my
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words on certain other campaigns. you know? if i'm saying i can smell success it means i can smell lack of success as well. >> you're a tough nut to crack. up know that? there's no cracking you. huh? >> hmm. well, if that's what you want to do, crack your mom. >> yes, i do. i want to crack you. >> and filmmaker alexandra pelosi joins me now. thank you so much. i appreciate you doing this. >> thank you for having me. you doing okay? >> ah, i don't know. what do you think? how am i doing? you tell me. >> let me talk -- i think you're doing pretty well. >> considering. >> considering. the concern is your father saying your father paul pelosi is the breakout star of my mother's life and of my movie. the attack on him is not in your documentary but he play as giant role. he plays a big part in the documentary. how is he doing? >> well, that's a tough question to answer, because physically he's healing.
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if you look at him, he went out to the kennedy center honors. my frandiends saying, this is great. he's back. traumatic brain injurey is not just something that goes away. the press hasn't gone away either. we're still living with this every day. i don't know how these things heal. this is a very long recovery. >> you're still concerned? >> yeah. >> and reason to be. >> how would you feel? there's no -- you have to make sense of this in your mind. you have to make sense of the fact there's an 82-year-old man asleep in his own bed gets attacked in his own home, and i don't care how you vote. i don't care vote. it is hard to make peace with. that's why we're still -- first of all, we're still under threat. it is not as if the threats just go away. this has been something we have been living with forever. and it was so -- i mean, you could -- it was so coming.
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this was so inevitable. you think about the hundreds of millions of dollars in ads that the republicans spent demonizing my mother, i used to joke with my father, she turned her last name into a curse word. thats wo that was 20 years ago we made that joke. our whole family has had a target on our back for a while. >> how is she doing? >> i think this is really traumatizing. you can't have a morning show answer for this. it is so deep in the psyche of what happens to a person after something like this. it is not something, we're doing well. what are we supposed to say? there is not a good answer for this. i'm such a scrooge this christmas, i can't go to holiday parties. people come up to me, like, how are you? what am i supposed to say? my 82-year-old father was attacked in his bed in the middle of the night, how do you think i am. >> you said the republicans'
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horrible response to the attack may have turned off some voters in the midterm elections. do you think that's true? >> i don't know anything about voters. i don't know anything about this country right now. my faith in humanity has been destroyed by all this. i have no idea if people are good. i have no sense -- what i do know is that how the republicans responded to this attack was so unforgiva unforgivable. the jokes. you saw the jokes. the governor of virginia, the wanna-be governor of arizona, congressman, were making jokes about an 82-year-old man getting attacked in his own home. i don't understand how that's forgivable. for me, the toxic media landscape is so hard to try -- i don't know -- i just don't know how to talk about this without going so dark. and it is a morning show. and we're trying to be light and happy. >> we want to be real. and, also, not condemning people who are, you know, like, members
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of the ex-president's family who are sending out insane, just awful things about your father online. just not condemning that. at some point, like, where is the bottom? >> wait, tweeting conspiracy theories. the amount of conspiracy theorys that were being spread on the internet after this happened, it's -- the social media is destroying the social fabric of this country. >> do you believe that? >> i totally believe we have lost all civility. you don't think that? >> i'm asking you, yeah, look, i limit myself when it comes to twitter because i think it is so toxic. i want to know what you think. >> i'm not on social media because i think it is so toxic and it has destroyed conversation. i have friends who actually have asked me questions that come straight out of conspiracy theory playbooks. i think, where do you hear this stuff? the internet just spreads this viral toxic -- it is really dangerous because it trickles down to unwell people. >> do you think that contributed to january 6th? >> absolutely. you know, i think january 6th
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is -- what's interesting about january 6th, not everybody that was there that day is a bad person. there are plenty of good people that showed up to air their first amendment right to protest, right? but then some of them got carried away. and that's where it gets tricky. it gets really tricky, you say what's okay? it is okay to show up in protests, it is okay to get outside the capitol and wave a flag and say you don't agree. it is not okay to break the window, go into the building, literally poop in the capital, literally poop in the capitol. i took my teenage boys through the capitol when it was cleared and we got to go back inside. they destroyed the speaker's house. they broke everything. the kitchen and -- there was just pure destruction everywhere. >> you were there to film, and this happened as you were there that day. you weren't expecting this to happen. you just happened to be there filming this documentary. and you were with your kids, right? >> right.
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>> this unfolded. you never expected in a million years that anything like this obviously -- >> in hindsight, you think you could have seen this coming, considering how toxic the political dialogue has gotten in this country. if i think about it now, i have to say i should have seen it coming. i made a lot of these documentaries this is my 14th hbo documentary. i have seen over time the landscape has been just getting more poisoned. >> this is a moment from january 6th that you filmed. here's what your mother talking about trump, this is your mom. watch. >> i want to punch him out. waiting for this, for trespassing on the capitol grounds. i want to punch him out. i'm going to go to jail and be happy. >> take us behind that moment. we don't hear your mom speak that way, she rarely uses her cool. i don't think she lost her cool
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there, but she was very upset. >> her father has been in congress and she's been in congress for 35 years so the capitol is sacred ground for her. the idea this was just becoming a big freak show was very offensive to her. you have to understand how she believes public service is a noble calling and she believes what they do is god's work. she really believes this in her soul. she's been doing this. this is her life's work. the idea that he was just going to come make a mockery of this official proceeding that was in the constitution really offended her. >> it must be -- i don't want to put words in your mouth -- infuriating or interesting position to be in to see the stances that they're taking now, many of them, especially kevin mccarthy going after that to kiss the ring and this whole sort of pretense about that election being stolen and not really standing up for it and sort of straddling the fence, that must be an interesting position to be in, having been behind the scenes with cameras, witnessing them working together and now the, oh, i don't know
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what happened. >> do you remember truthiness? the biggest problem is trying to make sense of the fact that there have always been two strong sides in this country. and they did not agree. but now there is no truth. there is no -- there is no we can agree, we can stipulate to facts. there is no facts anymore. and that's the hardest part. because i have teenage kids and i have to explain to them, like, there are some facts, there are things that are true. these truths. now, it just seems like everybody is just making stuff up and you can say whatever you want and there is no truth anymore. >> you were there the day your mother stepped down and announced she was stepping down from democratic leadership. tell us about -- >> i think that was the best day of my adult life. >> are you serious? >> i feel so liberated. >> what about for her, though? >> i think she's free. i think there is a lot of weight that comes with these kinds of jobs. and i think that over time it is really become -- you're just slaying all these dragons.
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it is just -- at some point, you are just done. after my father was attacked, that was it. we were sitting in the icu and we were just saying, we're done, that's it. we gave -- she gave 35 years to this country, whether you like her politics or not. you don't have to like nancy pelosi. if i liked fox news, i would hate nancy pelosi too. i get it. you don't have to support her politics. you have to at least say, okay, she spent 35 years doing this, her husband looks like frankenstein over here, she's done. she's done. and what i didn't like was in the time between the moment she was done and the moment she announced all the people saying, you have to stay on, your country needs you, keep going, keep fighting. let her go. she served her time. let her go. >> were you saying, mom, please don't listen to them? >> of course. i get the call from my friend at cnn that my father has been attacked. i get on a plane, i go to san francisco, i'm sitting in the icu with my mother. and i said to my mother, i was very upset, i said, you know, when i was 16 years old, you
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came to me and you said she loves to tell this story, one of her favorite stories she tells in her speeches, when i was 16, my mother came to me and said, mommy has a chance to run for congress. but i won't do it without your permission. i was the youngest of five and the only one left at home. mommy has a chance to run for congress but i won't do it unless i have your permission. i said, mother, get a life! right. what teenage girl doesn't want their mom out of the house. go, right? so there we are in the icu and i say to her, if i had known 35 y years later where this was going to end up, i would have never given you my blessing to run in the first place. my father, coming out of all he's been through says to me, you can't say that. you have to say, if you came to me today, and in this toxic social media environment, you would not give your permission. but you can't say the last 35 years of your life i'm going to erase that because of this one incident. so, that's what we're wrestling with. what i'm wrestling with is was
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this all worth it for my family, what we went through, was it worth it? now, my parents would say yes. my father after all he's been through, he would say yes. my mother would say i'm proud of my wounds because she's proud of the life she's lived. but for the family, the families are the ones that pay the highest price for this kind of life. >> thank you. and -- >> nice morning banter, right? >> i was going to say thank you. >> i broke your spirit. >> regardless of what people feel about your mother's politics, she served her country and she did it well. thank you very much. >> thank you for talking to me. >> thank you. >> it is an honor to be on cnn this morning. >> thank you, alexandra. and the documentary debuts on hbo max and hbo tonight at 9:00 eastern. that was quite an interview. >> it was. thank you very much.
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