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>> we are less than three weeks away from a new congress. but kevin mccarthy still does not have the votes to be speaker. we'll tell you what he might have to give up to get them. >> plus, brittney griner is heartbroken that paul whelan is still detained in russia. that's coming from her agent tonight. so, what's the u.s. doing to try to get mr. whelan home? >> and we'll talk about the story. they are identical twins who are accused of cheating on their medical exams. they sued their school and they won, and wait until you hear their defense. so, we are going to talk to a doctor who helped prove their case. >> i want to bring in now cnn political analyst astead herndon, analyst john allen, and margaret hoover as well. who's joining us. let's begin first of all with the fact that we are, in congressional terms, days away from a new congress happening.

and yet on the democrat side, they certainly have their leadership in place. on the republican side, mccarthy is not a shoe in. he's still fighting to get the numbers. i wonder what you make of the fact that he saw it as a uphill battle, margaret. >> i was down in washington today, having conversations with republicans all over. and my sense is, you say we're days away. but in dog years, where years away. >> [laughter]. >> and the truth is we may not know until right around the time of the vote. we may not know until the day of the vote. what it demonstrates is something very different is happening in the house of representatives and happening in the u.s. senate. republicans in the senate are very organized. they all voted to return mitch mcconnell to leadership, not all, intended and. tended not. but the leadership and the organizations fine. there's two types republicans, there's the polite word for the troublemakers in the house of representatives. and then there's the senate. so, you have two different kinds of the republican party

on the hill. and the house is unquestionably chaotic, disorganized, and kevin mccarthy is just fighting for his life to get that brass ring. >> it's ungovernable, let's face. it and so, i mean, basically -- >> one of the nice words. >> yeah, that's one of the nice words. but as margaret alluded to, the uber right wingers are basically saying that he doesn't have the votes. >> yeah. >> and i think they want to extract something from him to get the votes, for instance. marjorie taylor greene wants some committee, i don't know, chairman schiff's, or wants to be on committees. >> yeah. >> so, is he going to strike those deals. >> look, i think he's going to have. to look, he's only got a four vote margin on a good day. the big day is going to be january 3rd. we already have more than four votes against him, ostensibly backing andy biggs for speaker, which is a nonstarter for the caucus. but it's a protest vote. he's still that's position, let's be clear. because he's the person who, you know, can basically unite the center and far right to the

extent is possible. but he's going to have to cut a lot of deals. and those deals are going to weaken his ability to control his caucus. so, what we saw a flick paul ryan and john boehner, where they really could not control their crazy caucus, is going to be on steroids for mccarthy if he wins. >> one of those deals with the proverbial devil seems to be the idea of saying, look, if it's going to be-for-tat, and just as democrats removed some members of the republicans from committees, one margie taylor greene, among others, there is a thought that ken mccarthy, if elected speaker, what do the same. we have at least one republican, a moderate, congresswoman nancy -- , who says she is going to oppose kicking democrats off their committee assignments. and i'm wondering, of course, with that and the cycle? are there more nancy mace is on the horizon about issues like this? or is this essentially what we have to expect, the-for-tat retaliation? >> i think you have kind of conflicting interest for mccarthy here. you have a base that wants

that-for-tat, that once the republican congress to really extract almost everything they can to get back at democrats for what they perceive happen in the trump administration. and then you have some moderate republicans who are specially looking towards the results in november and saying that strategy didn't really work out for republicans. so, you have a different incentive based for different sides of the republican party. and that is really what is driving this political conflict. i think you're right that mccarthy is still best position to be the person who can unite those rings. but the question is what is going to have to give up to make that happen. and that very well might be appeasing the kind of-for-tat. >> margaret, let's listen to what nancy mace had to say. because i think she's interesting. and the fact that she is saying this out loud and what she really stands for is helpful. so, let's listen to congresswoman bass. >> support that. effort i mean, i'm going to be consistent, regardless of who's in power. that's really up to voters. voters get to decide who serves them when they're in congress, not members of congress after

they have gotten here. now, i will support resolutions for people who have been bigoted in their remarks, those kinds of things. but i'm not going to support kicking people off of their committees. i didn't last year, and i will be doing it again next. year >> basically, she was talking about the ilhan omar tides, made by the right to be, you know, the boogie man, the squad. she said i don't support taking them off their committees. >> yeah, first amendment. look, one of the things you said was you said that was a constructive thing for her to say. there should be more people like her. will there be more people like her? there are some. and the reason she is saying what she is saying is because she is from a swing district. she is from a district in charleston, south carolina, that is basically gone blue for every president, well, i think three cycles now it has been a blue district in south carolina, deep red south carolina. you get reasonable republicans first swing districts. we need more nancy mace, is more competitive seats. >> we need to gerrymander less. >> yes we do.

that's the bottom line here, if we had more competitive districts, less safe seats, we would have more members of congress who cared about reaching out to reach the opposition and less obsessed to playing with a base. and you see that and that's the base, 100%. >> you wonder though, in terms of, yes, we agree we should gerrymander not at all. not just less, but we should stop of the gerrymandering as part of something we could do. thinking about this though, there is an appetite, because of what we're talking about, there is the appetite, the perception, that republicans have been wrong. that republicans were targeted. that they were canceled, and justifiably. that kevin mccarthy, in order to gain power, is going to have to dilute it by making a number of deals that will essentially make, maybe, his need to talk to democrats all the more evident. does that make the democrats more powerful, and they will likely be relied upon to bring home what the allies do not? >> i think democrats are playing with a better hand than expected going into this congress, without question. that is because of the small,

the small margin that republicans are going to have. and that matters because just the wide range of republicans that we are talking about here. but these tensions that are messing with kevin mccarthy right now, they are going to play out in washington on one piece. but this will really play out in the 2024 presidential campaign. that is going to be where republicans kind of sort out just how big that faction is, just how small the nancy mace faction is. but until we get, that we are not getting a really full accounting on the question. >> i want to resist the temptation to skate ahead to 2024. >> that primary is where it's going to happen. >> yeah, but right, we've got two years of something called governing ahead of us. and we have divided government, which in recent years, has been dysfunctional government. but it does not need to be. the american people would actually like to find ways for the parties to work together. and they are probably in a couple of areas where they could. so, we should be talking more about that. and they should be talking more about that too. >> that is a, should but it has no evidence in this congress. >> i think that actually this

has been an enormously productive congress. >> bipartisan margins. >> but where did all start? it starts in the senate. so, it's a matter of what happens in the house. what you are talking about is right. all the deals that kevin mccarthy is going to have to cut may ultimately undermine his ability to hold on to power. then what? so, if kevin mccarthy is able to put the votes together, how long does he have it? who governs after that? and then, can they do anything with what the senate sends them? >> particularly if he agrees, as part of the deal, on this motion to vacate. where they can, like, get rid of him at a moments notice. that's what they're suggesting. >> that's what we want. >> let me tell, you have that eye condition by which he gets the speakership,'s biggest problem is a lack of enthusiasm among his own caucus, that is signing your own self destruct notes. that's absolutely non workable, non governable, nonstarter. >> the best thing kevin because he has going for him is that no one else wants the job. the job is hard for a. reason and they do not -- the person who can put together that caucus is still --

that list is still very small. >> i'm looking at. it >> so, even though he is a wounded speaker, a potential speaker going in, who might have to make up, a various tight amount of votes to get that job, what he can say is there are very few people who can get those numbers, even if they are small. >> you know who was one person today, of, course speaker pelosi, who, as she has spoken about, could say you are present at the white house, she spoke about the idea how proud she was to have as one of her final acts as speaker of the house be in support of the marriage act. >> really, it was amazing. because it was also her first speech in the house when she came to the house of representatives was about the aids epidemic and these issues. because of course, she represented san francisco, the lgbtq q community was huge part of her consistency. her based on the beginning. real full circle for. her >> very interesting bookends. but what was it like, margaret? >> one think that has gotten too little attention about this bill today, i stood there on the south lawn of the white house, i ate more members of

the jesus christ of lettered a saints, national association of evangelicals, council of christian -- orthodox union, religious organizations across this country supported this bill. not only because they're in favor of freedom to may, or they're in favor what the bill did. which is restate its position to protecting religious organizations ability to not have to conduct marriages that they disagree with in their churches and not lose their 513 seat status. that is a fabulous example of how we can resume together in a pluralistic country and have diverse religious backgrounds and groups of people come together for a bill that was supported by republicans and democrats alike. this is such a fabulous example of progress in this country. and it's a really wonderful thing to be part of. >> it's also a way though -- i mean, i hate to damper, it bites also kind of a way to think about taking some of the teat and bite out of legislation as well. the idea of having legislation available is almost like, hey,

the people who are here and support in showing it, telling you it was safe, it was safe to have evidence. one of the common people had about not really codifying. >> you could have that, or you could not have the bill. >> i understand that. i get the politics of it. >> i want to take issue with. that everybody still gets to get married. you just say you don't have to be catholic and for somebody to get married in your catholic church. >> no. >> but here's the deal. as you know -- >> but you also have to in some places leave the state they want to get married in go get married somewhere else, and then fight to get it recognized the home state. that's still there. >> every state recognizes marriage. >> i understand, i understand. but it is not the pure codification of obergefell. which politically, it could not be. >> but that's not because a first amendment, that's not because of religious organizations. frankly, that would not pass if you didn't have that religious statement in. it's so, this is -- >> progress, not perfection, yes. >> i think we're seeing something different. >> that's what we do know pluralistic society. >> well, there you go. well though john, everyone.

>> brittney griner, everyone, is back home. but heartbroken that paul whelan is still detained in russia. our next guest says it's great she's free, but he calls the hostage bizarre and needs to come to the end. we'll discuss, next. [narrator] why is aaron happy? well, carvana has tens of thousands of cars under $20,000. so aaron's folks could help hook him with a new ride. we'll drive you happy carvana.

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>> there is encouraging news tonight about brittney griner. her agent says the wnba star is, quote, upbeat, thankful, and hopeful as she recuperate at an army medical center in texas. she is now getting physical and psychological support. and spending time with her wife, also eating some barbecue and hitting the basketball court. >> britney griner's agent tells

anderson cooper tonight that britney griner's, quote, heartbroken that the polling is still the data. russia max boot is. here senior council on foreign. relations new column on the washington post, and he writes that while it is great that griner is back home, the hostage bizarre has to close. our correspondents are back with us. also john, when you say the hostage bizarre has to, and you mean prisoner swaps? >> there's been so many in recent years that it's kind of ironic to see former president trump and his supporters attacking this deal when donald trump himself bragged that he was the greatest austin associate in human history. >> he made a lot of prisoner swaps with the taliban, and other repugnant regimes. and this is been a trend going back many years now. the problem is that each individual case, our hearts go out to them. we want to see these americans come home because they are being unjustly maintained. the problem is when we are making all of these deals, making all these concessions, including letting somebody like viktor bout, notorious arms

dealer out of prison to get somebody else who was and justly detained home, they create incentives tutsis more american hostages. >> max, i understand. but what's the often, let britney griner stay in a russian penal colony? >> i'm very glad that britney griner is, out but i think we need to have a serious debate about whether we want to continue doing this, or whether we should say that the state department has a list of country where it advises americans not to travel, including russia, iran, syria, some of the obvious candidates. and maybe at some point, we need to have a president who says, okay, i'm going to work to get the people out who are currently in prison. but in the future, if you choose to go to, russia you are on your own. you are not going to make concessions to get you home. by the way, i might add, there is still, like, 30 american basketball players who are still playing in russia as we speak. that is not very wise. that is creating the potential for yet another hostage crisis down the road. >> what i think is fastening about it is the idea of -- and some people ask the question, they will say, and i

will remember when she was first detained, when we first learned about her detention, when we learned she was a basketball player there, they would make comments like, what someone doing there? we learned about during the invasion, she had already been detained. or questions about -- not a traveling place, it's on the do not travel area. but your point really is the idea of, hold on, if people are intending to do it anyway, they ought not to be able to have the luxury of having the government support them and their safe return guaranteed. what do you guys think about that? >> i respectfully disagree. i understand the point max is making. but i think the privileges and responsibilities of american citizenship, of a government to its citizens, don't stop simply because somebody has found themselves in a wise unjust place. i have not seen the point maxes making, which if you negotiate for one hostage, it creates an incentive to get another dozen. on the surface, obviously trading somebody whose nickname is the merchant of death for a

wnba star who was improperly detained, is an imbalance. but american presidents, going back decades, as max points out, have made it -- get americans out of harm's. light at the basic responsibility of the government and the president. and the fact is that she was being used in the context of the run up to the invasion of ukraine. paul whelan is still there. he should be released. but i think we need to celebrate as americans -- what we need to avoid is the situational ethics we see, republicans who celebrated every hostage released by donald trump condemn this one as making america weaker. it does not make us weaker. >> well, no, i agree with you. there is massive hypocrisy on the part of republicans here. there is no way around that. but i think at the end of the day, there is a legitimate point that these hostage swabs do make us weaker. the problem is that both parties have done. it's a bipartisan problem. >> margaret, what do you think? >> what do you do? i'm willing to give a lot of [laughter] leeway to the people who run the negotiations and have the intelligence, who know

the details about what was being offered between brittney and paul whelan. i'm delighted that she's home. of course, we have been following it. but i recall president trump swap many, many dozens of taliban prisoners. which struck me as an outrage at the time, in order to get americans. back but you are right, there is this president for american presidents doing what they can in order to get americans back. i was struck, frankly, by her statement, that she took time in her statement to update the country on how she was. but then to also make note of paul whelan, who is still there in russia. and there has been a degree of criticism about him being left behind, and some commentary about that. i was not part of the negotiating. >> sounds like biden wanted to keep him. there >> there is a lot of opportunities in there, obviously. because everyone wants paul whelan home. but he was captured in 2018, when donald trump was still president. and now trump and others are suggesting that biden did something wrong by not getting him out. why did trump get him out in

the first place? >> yeah, great point. france, thank you very much for talking about all of this. we have to get to this story. identical twin sisters are accused of cheating on their medical exams. they then sued their school and they won. and we'll tell you how they prove their case and what makes twins so special, as the mother of two. [laughter] and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and giveves you a real offer in seconds we'll come to you pay you on thehe spot then pick up your car that's it at carvana densify from crest pro health. like bones, your teeth lose density over time... ...but crest has you covered. crest densify actively rebuilds tooth densi... ...to extend the life of teeth. crest the #1 toothpaste brand in america.

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>> identical twin sisters won a 1.5 million dollar defamation case against the medical university of south carolina. kayla and kelly bingham were

accused of cheating on their year-end medical exams by the school after earning extremely similar test scores. in fact, this is stirs had identical answers to 296 out of the 307 questions on the exam, including getting the exact same 54 questions wrong. -- it's stunning and the question is, how do they prove their case, then, to allow them to win? they were leaning on the theory that this common for identical twins who perform similarly on tests. and joining us now is the twins attorney, james smith, also with us the director of the twin study center at cal state fullerton, doctor nancy segel, who also testified in this case. i'm so glad you are here. i want to start with the research. because i think this is fascinating to think about, the idea that they could have testified tested so similarly over time, not just in these exams, but in the s.a.t., i believe -- i understand -- testing. the research you say, dr. seagull, actually, it would

surprise you if they did not have similar results. tell us why. >> that's correct. the vast number of psychological studies, as well as like histories, to show that identical twins perform at an amazingly similar level. even identical twins race depart from birth -- and how do we explain this? identical twins have similar dna. they come into the world with the exact same set of genes. and we know from our research studies that predispose genes predispose us towards sets of people, places and things. they underline the way we process information, the way we perform solutions, the way we solve problems. and so it came as no surprise to me that kayla and kelly would form so similarly on these tests. in fact, i would have been surprised hebei not. and for me, the vital error that was made in this particular case was that when the scores were submitted to a test security outfit, they

claimed that the twins scored more alike than they should have given any other two pairs of people. but in fact, they are identical twins. and that was a key factor not taken into consideration. we see these kinds of things all the time. and so these are real hard scientific facts that are supported by a good amount of quantitative data. >> but james, it is interesting. you can see why the school would be suspicious, okay? because without all that background that dr. segel just laid out, to get 296 questions out of the 307 exactly the same answer, including the 54 wrong answers, of course that aroused suspicion. and so, how hard was it to make your case to the school? >> is this to me, sorry? >> yes, sorry, james. >> no problem. it was never in doubt. and it's been such a privileged

to represent these two courageous courageous ladies, kelly and kayla, and their desire to make sure this never happens to another set of identical twins ever again. but i knew from the outset and fell very confident in the truth in which i spoke. and when you look at their entire life experience you can see that every time they have come together when to take tests in the same room, or in different locations, they perform violently identically. they have identical sats horse. they have been within a fraction of a point throughout there entire academic careers. so really, the fact spoke for themselves. and even before, having the benefit dr. of segel's expert witness testimony in the myriad tests that have been performed, that had a great deal of confidence that a court would see and understand that they perform exactly as they should. there's an old saying that great minds think alike -- genetically identical minds are predisposed to do that. >> for this, a defamation case,

and you are thinking about this, james, you are talking about a reputation alarm. and i understand that these two twins, they suffered from having the accusations leveled against them. they actually did not end up pursuing a career in medicine as a result -- that's incredible. tell me about that, the idea of stress, mental anguish, panic attacks they have experienced, post-traumatic stress disorder. tell me about the impact that has been on their lives. >> this was absolutely devastating. it was a circumstance where it should have been kept confidential. but of course, in an environment like this, it was not. and even the dean who ultimately overturned the original decision made the recommendation to them that they would be better off if they left the school because it had gotten so intolerable for them. they found that whenever they turned, their story was known across the country and they could not find another school to enter, despite their remarkable scores and academic history. and ultimately, they turned to the law. and as you might imagine, these

two very talented young ladies went to law school very successfully and graduated with high marks. again, within a fraction of a point of each other. and within two different sections of the law school. so, they took a terrible experience, stood up for themselves, fought for the reputations, had declared an vindicated in court. and now they want to make sure that the rest of the world understands that this is often -- >> -- follow up on something that the lawyer so appropriately said. this is not an isolated case. in my career as a psychologist and a twin researcher, i have encountered other cases like this. and i can say that it not only damages the twins reputations. it creates havoc in a whole family. and it really derails twins who are just trying to perform to the best of their ability. i think that what is shameful

about this is that here you have a fine medical school with outstanding faculty who admitted -- admitted -- that they do nothing about twins. and it seems to me that if they had done their research prior to bringing their -- to the testing security afoot. >> yes. dr. segel -- >> -- twins out there, suffering the same kind of accusations, may not have a place to turn. i think in the past we simply did not. but with all the research behind us, we are going to help these twins get through some very difficult and uncalled for situations. >> that's really interesting. dr. segel and james, thank you very much for sharing the story with us. you are right. none of us did know how they could score within a point, or decimal of each other. it's really interesting. and also it's sad. they won this award. they -- >> at what cost? you hear people talk about this. and the initial reaction is --

i wonder what they were accused of? people have this image that twins are, i don't know, doing telepathy. -- happening in these instances, right? >> is that so wrong? if they do telepathy? >> well, we do that. the whole show we did that. -- >> fraternal journalistic twins. you heard it here. >> that's adorable. >> -- if the breaking news. okay, everybody. it's also breaking news that there is a place that there's few ever people want to see the. it's a dreaded middle seat on an airplane. but it turns out some people love being stuck between two strangers for hours. just two are those people? -- we're going to meet them next? >> no. >> we are going to talk about them.

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>> what is your least favorite seat of a plane? well twitter is buzzing over this tweet from zach bernstein, quote, losing my mind, just off of the aisle seat to the guy sitting between me and my girlfriend and he said he'd rather stay in the middle seat between us. >> something else is going on here. it's pretty shocking, right? our friends at the washington post thought so too, especially that story. -- an article titled, to the people who willingly chose the middle seat, we have questions. we also have questions too,

back with us -- john avlon and margaret hoover. who among us doesn't want the middle seat, right? >> nobody! >> -- sometimes you one middle seat. like your, traveling with small children, it's better to be with your kid then -- >> yes, of course. >> -- people who want to be in the middle. >> that's the story. that's the dude who has got -- >> tweeted. this one -- here is an awesome one. there have been times when flying during the day, i like the middle seat, because i am a talker. >> that's worse. >> you want to be in the middle see, you want to talk to people? >> absolutely not. >> that's rejected seinfeld episode. >> okay. listen to this. we region is offering people inducements to take the middle seat, because they know no one wants it. tell me if you take it in this. it's a lottery. five night crews test tasmania. >> a mom. >> sure.

>> is that a price? >> yes, it's a price. >> does it include a flight? >> platinum status upgrade, when million velocity points -- >> you get a, facet velocity. i don't know. >> you get shied out of a cannon. >> -- lottery. >> that's the incentive structure we need. or veteran virgin can just get rid of the middle seat. >> no! >> no middle seats. that's the best slogan of an airline ever. >> that said the pandemic, delta was doing no middle seats. that was not the most important thing at the time. but i did appreciate it. >> the reason to take a middle seat is if you are traveling with your child and you want to keep them over here and -- >> do you know anything about that? >> i know a lot about that. oh! listen, that's not even how it goes down, usually. >> no -- >> tell us more about how this goes down. >> we only care about this

segment. >> how do the -- travel with small people? people who like the middle seat, that's a peculiar crew. >> here's another one. i'm five feet tall and petite. the middle seat is not uncomfortable for me at all and i find people walking up and down the aisle to be extremely distracting if i'm trying to sleep for work. >> so, there's somebody who likes -- >> there's another option if, the window also exists. >> you can also get a year of lounge access, if you take the middle seat. i like that. >> that's a winner. >> tonight's day at a luxury resort. how is that? >> i like it. but i like swag. i would take the swag. -- the person who sits in the middle between john avlon and margaret hoover. >> -- i will take my chances. i will do that. >> you tell me your story and you will tell me yours. >> that doesn't happen there. >> shut it down, shut it down. >> [laughter] >> you know what my pet peeves, i'm in the middle seat, someone asks for

the window and then they shut the window. >> you cannot sit in the middle seat and not be willing to take on with the west of the row once. if someone wants the window closed, i don't care if you want -- >> exactly, if you have the old-school burlap curtains, it's like touching your face halftime -- oh, i'm alone. >> the hygienics part of it -- >> wow, we are going deep cut here, people. i think the main thing is, people that proactively choose the middle seat, you might want to talk to someone. >> there's a lot of people like that out there, john avlon. >> we will be right back. [laughter] >> did you get the joke i made? might want to talk to someone? oh no...

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since 20 children and six adults were killed in a mass shooting at sandy hook elementary school. >> in a new cnn special report, i revisit the parents who the grief that day and power. we look back at their decade-long fight to prevent other families from suffering that devastation that they felt on that awful day. >> in one room, i could see first graders sitting down with crossed likes. and i kept looking at all the faces. and i did not see any of dylan's classmates. and i didn't see dillon. >> there's an entire class that has not come out of the school yet. >> nikole kept scanning the crowd for his six-year-old son. >> i remember just looking and staring at each one, and understanding why he was not there. people were holding signs with classrooms and i found someone

holding ms. soto's sign and it wasn't ms. soto there. we're just a couple kids there, including dylan's reading partner. and i walked up and i, said where is the rest of the class? and i looked down and dillon's reading partner and she just -- her eyes were wide like saucers. and she was just staring. and i thought, oh, gosh. this isn't good. >> scarlett lewis was also there, searching for her six-year-old son jesse. >> i remember being told repeatedly, if you can't find your child, go into the back room and put his name down on the list. and i'm like, i'm not going to put my child's name down on a list, i'm just going to find him. i tried to go up to the school. they would not let me. >> it was surreal. it was frightening. i was just --

it was hard to process. and at that point, the governor brought everyone into a room in a firehouse. and that is when we got the news. >> he said that if we were still in that room, that our loved ones were not coming back. i the rumor update. there was chaos, there was whaling. they were screaming, yelling. the gentleman who was -- >> catastrophic beyond recognition. >> alisyn? >> i know. -- this is actually a hopeful our. i know that that is devastating to go back and remember that day. we all remember where we were on that day. but what these families have done, i spent time with these families, and i did not leave

feeling drained or depressed or exhausted. i felt -- i left feeling empowered and hopeful. because they did turn their grief into action. and what they will tell you is the changes that have happened in various states and this country over the next asked ten years, and the actual school shootings that we never report on because they have been stopped by the things they have done. so, we don't know the names are various little towns because, through their actions, they have set up crisis counselors, they have set up hotlines. they know how to stop some of these once the warning signs are shot off. and i have stopped school shootings. so, it's actually hopeful. but it is so intense to have them have to go back and have them relive that day, as we all will, tomorrow. >> they treated every other child as there is as well. every parent has benefited now from their advocacy. it's tireless. and i think it's so poignant and beautiful. you almost can't believe it has been ten years. it feels like time froze but

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>> good evening, after more than six months, investigations involving approximately 1000 witness interviews, including top officials, the white house and department of justice, and analysis of tens of thousands of documents, the house select committee investigating january 6th attack on the capitol now

says it will deliver what is essentially a truism statement ex week. full report as well as possible criminal referrals to the justice department -- the announcement comes before the new republican majority -- expected, of course, to dissolve the general's committee. that is not in the inquiries into what happened. just today the department special counsel jack smith -- key 20 battleground states, asking for any and all communications with the former president, his campaign, aides and allies from more than seven month span into what happened, including attempts to get access to a republican congressman's text messages. plus, newly-revealed text messages the former president chief of staff at the time of the insurrection. we start though with what the white house select committee may have instruct. we are joined now by cnn political correspondent, sara murray. what do you expect? this will be a hearing on monday. >> that's right. this is going to be a public meeting, sort of thought this was going to happen on wednesday. you know, bu