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essentially a truism statement ex week. full report as well as possible criminal referrals to the justice department -- the announcement comes before the new republican majority -- expected, of course, to dissolve the general's committee. that is not in the inquiries into what happened. just today the department special counsel jack smith -- key 20 battleground states, asking for any and all communications with the former president, his campaign, aides and allies from more than seven month span into what happened, including attempts to get access to a republican congressman's text messages. plus, newly-revealed text messages the former president chief of staff at the time of the insurrection. we start though with what the white house select committee may have instruct. we are joined now by cnn political correspondent, sara murray. what do you expect? this will be a hearing on monday. >> that's right. this is going to be a public meeting, sort of thought this was going to happen on wednesday. you know, but the committee is
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keeping things moving. benny thompson, the chairman of the committee, said he felt like he could get, you know, the bulk of their work done sooner. and so, why not share with the public sooner? so at this meeting, we are expecting we are going to learn a lot more, as you were saying, about the criminal referrals. you know, what the names of those people are going to be, what the basis of that is going to be. we will also learn about other types of referrals that the committee may do. potential referrals to, for instance, the house ethics committee. we know there are a number of republican lawmakers who snubbed subpoenas from the committee, so referring them to the house ethics committee could be one of the options. and we are also expecting the committee to vote to adopt their final report. they are going to hold back on sharing that full report, though, until wednesday, the 21st. that's when they will make the whole thing available to the public. >> if there are other referrals, other than to the department of justice, how likely will any of them go anywhere under new republican control of the house? >> you know, that's a great question. when it comes to the health ethics committee and these republican lawmakers, you know,
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we don't know how that could potentially pan out. some of the other potential referrals they are talking about are still referring to bodies outside of congress. you know, we know there are a number of lawyers who have come under scrutiny, so they are talking about referring them for bar discipline to certain boards. they are talking about, you know, potential campaign finance referrals, it's unclear if those would go anywhere. what is clear is, look, this is a committee that's really been digging in. they feel like they have uncovered some kind of evidence of wrongdoing, in some cases, that could be criminal. in some cases, that could be evidence that a lawyer is not acting in the way that they believe is appropriate in some places. you know, it's a belief that a lawmaker has, you know, snubbed the authority of other lawmakers. they are trying to sort of divide these people into buckets and refer them to the areas where they believe it's going to be appropriate. >> sarah murray, appreciated. now the doj investigation, new information about a secret court proceeding to gain excess republican congressman, scott perry, text messages, which could be significant because we know congressman perry was in touch with the white house chief of staff, mark meadows about various election conspiracy. and i'm joined now by our
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senior crime and justice reporter, caitlin polantz. caitlin, what do you know about the content of these text messages between the congressman perry and meadows? >> well anderson, we have seen some of the text messages before. and there is new reporting out there now about what they were talking about. and really what perry is doing in the text messages we have is he showing concern over the election. he's expressing this skepticism that he believes there was security breaches and some of the things he's writing to mark meadows, i mean, a lot of this is totally unfounded allegations. but he is asking mark meadows for help. he wants help to get in touch with different people, he wants to spread the word that donald trump was pushing. he's writing things like, mark, there are instructions from the cyber forensic team, please ensure wide dissemination and action, please tell every state senior that they need to, one, preserve the specific voting machines, scanners use at the polling places where the glitch occurred, put them under lock and key. nobody touches them. he goes on with very similar requests to mark meadows on in november, after the election.
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and what he's doing there is he's basically asking the white house chief of staff to pry into election administration, and what we know, anderson, now, what we're able to confirm, is this is the sort of thing that federal investigators, not just the house select committee that got these text messages already, but the justice department. this is the sort of thing that they would want to know about as well. and what we are reporting tonight at cnn is that there is an under sealed court proceeding after perry's cell phone was seized in august, a proceeding that went in confidential. we don't know how it was resolved, but it is one of those proceedings where justice department prosecutors continue to want to get data out of him. >> i was confused in these text messages. he's talking about the cyber forensics team as if it's some sort of renowned group that should be known about. are these just conspiracy theories that he's read online? and he's just passing along to mark meadows, like, you have to save the actual scanning devices? like, who's the cyber forensics team? >> yeah, the cyber forensic
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team could be a lot of different people. there seems to be a lot of people around that time there are holding themselves out as experts in cybersecurity. these things in the affidavits in court that falsely accused people of having fraud -- that they were using, you know, there are all kinds of people out there that held themselves out. but, you know, perry is one of those people that was talking to a lot of important figures, not just mark meadows he was in touch with jeffrey clark, the person at the justice department that donald trump wanted to install as the attorney general, and he clearly was interested in talking to many, many people about this. not just meadows. that's one of the things that sticks out in these text messages with meadows. he's sharing some theories that are floating in far right publications, but he's also trying to get in touch. he's asking mark, give him other contacts that he can get to. so, if the justice department does try and get access to more text messages, that is what else they may be able to see.
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not just meadows text, but other communications perry had with others. >> right, there is a secret legal fight to get perry's tax. how likely is it there are more congressional text messages than what meadows turned over? >> very likely, actually. we know that there are about, a little more than 2000 text messages in the house of the hands of the house select committee in that we, at cnn, have been able to report on. but mark meadows is a guy who is in touch with lots and lots of people, even just in those 2000 or so text messages. he was in touch with more than 40 current and former members of congress, largely republicans, people that were asking him to ask the president to declare martial law. but also people who were on capitol hill during the riot, asking him for help, basically saying, we are under attack, the capital has been breached, please do something. that's what meadows was willing to turn over to the house select committee. but we do understand there probably is a lot more out there. >> caitlin polantz, appreciate it, thank you. we want to spend some time now with alexandra pelosi, she's
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she's the daughter the house speaker, nancy pelosi. she's also a remarkable documentary filmmaker who is with her mom on january 6th, filming what should've been an orderly transition of power in our democracy. she was there with her family. part of a longer film about her mother's career has just been released. what she captured that they were some of the most powerful leaders in america dealing with a crisis like none before. her work will inform our understanding of january 6th for generations to come. here's a clip from her new film. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible]
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>> we have got to get proceedings. so what's the -- are we gonna stay here all day, the rest of our lives, or what? we're here until what? until the national guard decides to come and get rid of these people? >> it's extraordinary what alexandra captured. pelosi in the house debuts today on our sister network, hbo, as well as hbo max. joining me now, alexandra pelosi. thanks so much for being with us. i would be remiss, i want to start off, how is your dad? >> wait, hold on. we were talking about january 6th, but to get there, we've got to go back. okay, let's go back to january 6th. >> just an update, how is he doing? >> he was at the premiere of
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pelosi in the house last night, standing ovation. the crowd went wild, they loved it. but what also happened at that screening was that a lot of the staffers that you see in that film, they were hiding in a desk in the capitol that day, they were there. and i thought we would have a big event, friends and family screening, then we would have a nice party. but it turns out, they're still super traumatized by what happened that day. they're really sad and they're really broken, and they're still processing it. so, we, you know, we talk about it as this, everyone's so numb to the images now because they've seen them for so long, but we forget that these people are still hurting. >> i think that's one of the things that's so powerful about this film and about the images that you captured, which we've never seen anything like what you've captured on that day. you went there, you brought your kids there. they were in your mom's, in the speaker's office, watching as the mob toward the capital, as it all began. did you have any hesitation about continuing to roll, about continuing to film? >> when they took nancy pelosi
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off the podium that day, she didn't even have herself on with her. so, she had to make calls and she didn't know she was being removed from the actual building. the security may decision to take her to the army base. so, she didn't have any record. she didn't have the house clerk there to take notes about what's happening. this is, we are talking about how government is actually run. so, i thought i had a real obligation to document what was happening at that moment. and what happened, what you watch, that you showed on your show already, but people don't seem to process how sort of this, to me, is news. you had, despite what all these people say on tv now, despite what any republicans may say, what you has what you had the leaders of the house and the senate, both democrats and republicans, working together to certify the election results. they were planning on bringing the entire congress from the capital, capitol hill, to an army base, to do it there. that's what they are talking about. they're making phone calls, can
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we get buses? do we get 435 members of the house? 100 senators? they're calling mike pence, they're coordinating. and it's all working. >> speaker pelosi and the leadership, they were determined to get this done on that day. >> with the participation of the republican leadership. so, it's important to point out that government was working that day. and since then, it's all been, you know, weaponized into political speech and, you know, it's all been turned into conspiracy theories, this and that. but on that day, that was, they were going to certify the elections no matter what. >> what you see though in your film is, it's the human story. i mean, it's a historic story that is happening. it's a news story, but it's also a human story about individuals in this incredible historic moment. i mean, your mom, like, ripping open a slim jim while she's talking to, i guess it was pence she was talking to at the time.
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did you know, i mean, you knew the importance of what you are doing in that day? >> there were moments, first of all, there was the georgia runoff that day, people forget. there was a moment where mitch mcconnell, the actual georgia runoff where it was called, and mitch mcconnell walked over to chuck schmuer and said, congratulations. they are humans, i know that people don't understand the difference between private and how people behave in front of a camera when they are on the -- >> that's one of the things that fascinates you about this and fuels your work, is that that difference between what happens on the podium, what happens in private. >> right and the hypocrisy that goes with it because mitch mcconnell did walk up to nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and said, i'm going to tell trump is not invited to the inauguration. he's not going to be there. >> he said that on january six? >> yes, now we know everything changes after that they. when you're andriy best behavior and reforming, no cameras there, you don't know that there's a camera there. >> in some of the shots, when you are shooting, i saw mccarthy looking at the camera or, you are looking at the camera sort of quizzically. did they know what you were
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doing? >> no because they were running a country. i don't think, first, well it is an iphone. so, it's hard for people to understand, like, chuck schumer uses a flip phone. it's part of them to kind of understand, like, you're filming hbo documentary over there. right? you're actually filming a broadcast quality thing that can be used. >> you are shooting it on an iphone? >> yeah, so maybe -- >> i want to play another clip from the film, where we see your mom taking a call from vice president pence. [inaudible] -- >> good morning again, mister vice president. thank you very much for being with us this morning. we look forward to -- how we can all work together for the good of the american people, for their rights and their livelihood.
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>> that's obviously not january 6th -- >> it's about time we change subjects anyway, you and i. people were really intrigued. got a lot of coverage about the fact that she, at home, made, like, milk crates to do anderson cooper live for her christian. people summary like that. they think people that have come in and stuff, it's funny, like, taking all your garbage, putting it together and go watch anderson cooper. >> in this film, there's no sit down interviews with nancy pelosi. you've said something about her, and i want to miss quote you, about she's not somebody -- >> she's a workhorse, not a showhorse. >> -- >> she wouldn't sit down and over emote. >> you're not going to get that out of her. >> have you tried to interview her? how has that gone? >> yes, i did interview with her, i thought she was great at it. i thought it was really a fascinating interview and i thought she said a lot of things that were very personal. >> did she strike you as an over sharer? >> no. >> right? see? >> she's a tough interviewer.
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>> yeah, she eats nails for breakfast, she's tough. >> has she always been that way? growing up? >> oh yeah, oh yeah. >> did you ever, i mean, looking at it from the inside, did you ever want to be in politics? >> i have the appetite for politics, but i don't have the stomach for it. i can't handle, i don't want to be political football. that's why wouldn't come on your show with the january six footage came out in the first place, because i don't want to be -- every word i say can and will be weaponized. and not so much today, now that she stepped down. i feel like nobody cares anymore what i say. but in the political context, after your footage aired, the way it was received by the mainstream media, i got legitimate news organizations writing to me and saying, hi, we are investigating claims that january 6th was staged because nancy pelosi brought a documentary film crew to the insurrection. and that was just mainstream media looking for clickbait. they know january 6th was not staged. they had reporters there. any reporter that wrote to me and said, hi, i'm investigating claims that january 6th was
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staged should be disbarred. >> the line can be drawn directly from misinformation and lies to the attack on your dad. >> exactly, here we are full circle, back to where we started because when you start to talk about decades of being demonized and the way the amount of hundreds of thousands of ads being made against a person, and my mother had a target on her back for the past ever since she was in leadership. let's call it two decades. the kind of hate that's been spewed and the kind of misogyny that's been spewed in her direction, i think that january 6th is an interesting connection, oh, you heard all the people that were saying they were coming to hang her from a lamppost, right? that's what people have been convicted in courts for saying. people have admitted, they said it live on camera. for people to show up and say, you know, they want to hang you on a lamp, when you take that and you see how my father ended up in the icu. i mean, if you put the pieces together, i see it going right
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from -- >> why do you think it is that she's such a target, because she's effective? because everybody who i know who knows the former president will tell you that he respects your mom, that he knows how tough and he respects that. he respects that strength. >> you're talking about w? >> no, donald trump. >> you're kidding? >> everybody that i know who actually knows him, as much as donald trump attacks your mom, they say that she's one of the few people he actually, you know, -- >> well, that is news. >> you've just made the biggest news i've ever heard. >> i've never. her >> that? really >>? really >> i've heard that from a number of people. >> i was taught the reason he had such a problem in her is because she is a woman, and he wasn't being used to talking with a real woman. >> what those things are not necessarily mutual exclusive. anyway, maybe i'm wrong. but that's what i -- >> you are never wrong. >> i can't be. >> that's why your name is on the wall. here you are never wrong. >> alexandra pelosi, thank you.
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congratulations on the. film and in my wishes to your. dad again, alexandra's documentary released tonight, 90 am hbo and hbo max. really. fascinated out. as we mentioned, cnn and hbo are part of the same company. more to come tonight. including a live report from the west texas, border city of el paso, migrants increasing after covid air restriction that allow them to be sent back across the body immediately may soon and. we'll also talk with britney griner's agent about is adjusting to life back in the u.s.. ♪ ♪ this... is a glimpse into the no-too-distant future of lincoln. ♪ ♪ it's what sanctuary could look like... feel like... sound like... even smell like. more on that soon. ♪ ♪ the best part? the prequel is pretty sweet too. ♪ ♪ the holidays were awkward for romeo and juliet.
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allows the government to expel migrants. and many migrants have already made it in over the border into el paso. local shelters there are reportedly overwhelmed. some, as you see in the video taken this morning, are being kicked out of places like parking garages, as near freezing temperatures settle on the west texas border city. ed lavandara has more details. >> as the sun fades away over el paso, a large group of migrants stand on the border's edge waiting to be processed by border patrol agents. while a few others tiptoe across a short path through the rio grande. these migrants are part of a major surge of border crossings seen in el paso in recent days, and it's happening as the projected end of a trump era covid restriction draws closer, ending the policy to swiftly expel migrants at u.s. land borders. u.s. border authorities interacted with more than 2 million migrants in the last year, up from the previous year. but in recent days, an average of almost 2500 migrants a day have been moving across this border between mexico and the u.s. through el paso. >> title 42 is only going to
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make that situation worse, where they will have more apprehensions. and so, we will see a lot more releases into the community, and we are not prepared threat. >> just three weeks ago, according to customs and border protection, the seven-day rolling average was fewer than 1700. thousands of migrants are now coming from central and south america, as well as cuba, according to u.s. immigration officials. >> i'm helping them get food and whatever they need. this is not even about politics, it's about humanity. these people are here and they're cold. >> some have been camping out across the border in ciudad juárez in mexico, raising concerns they will cross in mass if trump-era border restrictions end in about a week. still, others have already been boarded on to busses to be processed or turned around under the provisions of title 42. >> we are taking steps to be able to manage the expiration of title 42 and to put in place a process that will be orderly and humane. and we believe that in doing so, we can protect our national security concerns.
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>> homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas arrived in el paso today and says, he's meeting with customs and border protection, local officials and organizations. for now, the immediate problem is housing and managing a large influx of migrants. >> if the court cases get resolved and the courts allow title 42 to be left, we are going to see thousands of refugees for whom there isn't shelter. >> the director of a local el paso shelter says border patrol recently dropped a busload of migrants at his doorstep and he's worried he will soon have to turn people away. >> we are going to have to say no. not because we want to, but simply because we don't have space. the reality is, there are just too many people. >> ed lavandera joins us now from el paso. when title 42 has lifted, how many people could potentially cross the border every day? >> well, the biden administration is projecting that it could be as many as
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9000 to 14,000 migrants a day. all along the u.s. southern border, anderson. and that is roughly about double the numbers that we have been seeing over the course, on average, over the last few months. the department of homeland security, anderson, is announcing tonight that they're deploying additional agents here to the el paso area, as well as at about 1000 border processing officers that will be able to help handle the influx of agents. it's not exactly clear how many more border patrol agents are coming to this specific area, but clearly the need will be in place here as the prospect of title 42 being lifted here in the next week or so, so things can dramatically change. but dhs announcing tonight that additional resources are on the way. the question is, will it be enough? >> we appreciate it, thank you. ahead, an update on wnba star, brittney griner, back in the u.s. after nearly ten months in russian detention.
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>> after nearly ten months of russian imprisonment, brittney griner is doing really well, we hear, as she acclimates back to life in the free world. the basketball star is even back to shooting hoops again, so many have been pulling for her for so long, i wanted to get a more detailed update from someone in the know. someone we can speak to when the public might -- her agent, lindsay -- she joins us tonight. lindsey, thanks so much for joining us. how is brittney doing? >> you are so welcome, thanks for having me. she is doing so well. we are just thrilled. she's taken advantages of all the resources, the reintegration program has to offer, but she's doing great.
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the sparkle is still there, she's grateful to be home, she's talking about, you know, ideas for what's next and she's been, at times, sampling all the finest fare of san antonio. >> she is undergoing all the services that the government can offer in terms of helping with somebody who's been in captivity for so long? >> it's all voluntary, but bg is very open minded. she's full of gratitude and she's embracing the opportunity to, you know, do all the work necessary, because it is hard. she's been through a lot, but she so happy to be back home. >> she was back on the court practicing, wasn't she? >> i don't know if i would call it practicing. she was wearing chuck taylor's, but she was back on the court and she had a hoop, actually, at her pretrial detention facility that her russian attorneys, maria and alex, offered to bring her a ball for, but she didn't want to play. and so, it was pretty inspiring to know that one of the first choices she made was just to get out there for some fun and
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for a dunk to be her first move. you know, we were really glad she didn't get injured, but she didn't warm up. she assured me that she would do that. so i don't know, i will let her think about that for as long as she needs and that'll be her news to share. but no matter what, we were just thrilled to know that she was excited to get out there. >> we have some video of brittney with her hair cut short working in the labor camp. has she talked at all about how she dealt with this incredibly difficult situation? >> i think with the resilience spirit that all of us who know brittney knew was there, you know, she came home and that sparkle still in her eye and she approaches every situation with just this boundless joy. and she talked about liking her job and just putting herself in those moments of doing her best, and just being present. i guess none of it was really that surprising, if you know britney, that she's just going to embrace and find a way to make it work, and find a little bit of happiness.
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and now she's home, she will have a lot of stories to tell. >> it says a lot about her, i mean, as somebody who tries to practice being present, which is a very difficult thing, the fact that she would want to try to be present in a labor camp, in a penal colony, i mean, you would think perhaps someone would want to pretend to be anywhere but. but it's really interesting that she chose to try to be present in those moments. >> yeah, well i'm not sure that means she wanted to stay. she definitely -- >> well, that's for sure, that's for darn sure. that's quite clear. >> i think probably being an elite athlete helped, right? finding a routine, finding a bit of agency, making choices. you know, she decided to cut her hair because that's what was going to keep her healthy. but it was also a signal that she really didn't know when she was going to come home. but she was ready to, you know, make hard choices and do hard things, and stay committed to the plan and doing her part.
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i'm sure if they did a vote, she's probably the most likable prisoner ever in a russian detention facility, but that's just that brittney griner joy and anybody who's been around her knows that. >> you've said before that she wants to use her voice on this issue to help other americans being held overseas. do you have any sense of her plans for the future, to help others? >> yeah, well, you know, it's the same britney. and i don't see it being any different. when i spoke to her last night, she talked about how she's been thinking about the types of things she wants to do and how you can be both joyous and heartbroken. she is heartbroken that paul whelan is not home. she's thinking about his family and talked about her intention to call them as soon as she gets home, and she was really committed to telling the story, making sure that this population of wrongfully detained americans, that people know their names. >> yeah, lindsey --, thank you so much for talking to us, really appreciated. >> thanks anderson, thanks for your coverage. >> coming up, a missing american college student studying overseas. his parents are pleading for help, as they feel left in the
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american college student staying in france. -- kenny de land you near was supposed to be coming home in a few days for christmas. his parents are trying to find them what they say it's been difficult to get updates from authorities in both the u.s. and overseas, and they're challenging remarks made by a french prosecutor that their son had trouble making friends and may have left the area he was living in voluntarily. >> we kind of feel left in the dark. the addition of the french prosecutor story is something that was new yesterday. i just challenge that french prosecutor. he doesn't know our son and there were statements made in his statement that, you know, i feel he's making statements based on a person he does not know. >> cnn's jason carroll joins us now with more. so jason, dylan's parents were also that's about the last time
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they spoke to their son. what they say? >> they thought a couple things, anderson. first and foremost, they said repeatedly that nothing seemed out of the ordinary. not just with the last conversation, but with, frankly, all the conversations that they've been having with her son. that's why they're so, especially frustrated. and you heard there with the french authorities, who they say have been keeping them in the dark, not releasing information about their son. but as you know, that's partly because a french privacy laws, which prohibit french authorities from giving out information regarding someone who is an adult. their son is 22 years old, so he is an adult. so, while you have the french prosecutor giving out some information about their son that they don't agree with, they're also talking about him. and today spoke a little bit more about the conversations that they've been having with him. it's just our normal back and
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forth. he's asking me how i'm doing, i'm asking him how he's doing, how he's, you know, enjoying his studies and if he had traveled to any, you know, spots because he had really enjoyed the trip and had taken pictures and whatnot, and he loves to be able to, you know, see france. >> so again, a little bit more context there, anderson. by all accounts, at least their accounts, normal conversations between a father and son. a lot of frustration that they're experiencing, again, because of french authorities. they're hoping that all the international attention that this case has been receiving will ultimately help them find some of the answers that they're looking for. >> what's known about the timeline? when was last time they spoke to him, when was last time his cell phone pinged or where he was seen? >> right, well a couple things, when it comes to that. you will remember it was on november 27th, that's when the parents received a whatsapp
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message from their son saying that he was going to be taking this train to the lance, france. then on november 29th, that's when the public prosecutors office ended up opening a formal investigation, missing persons investigation, after some of the students there say that he didn't show up for class. then on november 30th, there was some sort of paying from his phone activities from his phone, then finally on december 3rd. that is the day that a surveillance camera picked him up entering a sporting goods store. this was located about three hours from where he was initially located and where he was initially studying. that's where he was wearing the gray cap and the red jacket, and nothing since then. nothing since december 3rd, and remember, it was just a saturday, december 17th, when he was supposed to be home for the holidays. >> all right, jason carroll, appreciated. for more on the international investigation, we want to bring
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in former nypd deputy commissioner for counterterrorism, john miller. who is now cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst. so, i mean, this is a complicated thing because of french privacy laws. how does an investigation like this, a transatlantic issue like this, get dealt with? >> if you are on the parents end of it, it is a mess. but the system would be, the students report him missing, that goes to the french police. local french police don't do investigations, so that goes to the french national police. the french national police open the investigation into what happened to this young man, the parents want information, they go through the u.s. state department, that then contacts the embassy, that then reaches out to the police. >> wow, so it's not direct to the french police to the parents? >> that's right. and the state department goes through the foreign ministry, to the police, then brings news back to the parents. that's how the system is supposed to work. and in the meantime, the fbi has a team of agents in paris that work out of the embassy, the legal attaché team, that are usually working on
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terrorism and transnational organized crime cases. but this involves a u.s. citizen, so they can go to the french police and get information, send that back through the state department, so that's another way there might be a breakthrough. the fbi just started getting into this case probably yesterday for the first time, based on the growing concern that he's off the grid and nobody has heard from him. >> the parents obviously they feel left in the dark. the french privacy laws, i didn't realize that they were so strict. >> and they are, if there is a person involved in an investigation, the authorities can't give information out on that person until certain charges happen, and then limited information, none of it involves giving that information to another country. that makes it more complicated. one of the things that could have a good effect here though is the father is talking about, we like to get interpol involved. a lot of people think interpol is, like, the man from uncle.
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they do international investigations. they don't. but what they do is they run data and they connect countries with investigative information, so if they put out a yellow notice, red notice is you are wanted by some country. blue notices are if there is an investigation about you and you need to be detained. but a yellow notice is you are a missing person. and that means anytime you cross a border, show a passport, get on a cruise ship, try to board an airplane, whether you are in the european union or beyond, any interpol country, that yellow notice will say, let's slow this person down and find out if they're okay, because they're missing. last year, they did 2162 of these yellow notices for both children and adults. you know, who just went off the grid. so, if he walked away, he's probably having a personal crisis. if he walked away, that doesn't mean he didn't run into trouble. so, you hope for the idea that he just needed to clear his head for a while, because the
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alternative is worse. >> john miller, appreciate it, thank you so much. tomorrow marks a somber ten years since the mass shooting of sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. ten years since 20 1st graders, six staff members, including principle, were murdered. tomorrow night, through six, we will talk to four former sandy hook students. three second graders and one fourth grader on that day, share how it still affects their lives today. here is a preview. >> do you think this is impacted an entire generation of young people? i mean, those who have grown up since columbine to, you know, or just even since sandy hook to now? do you think your generation has been shaped by these shootings? >> absolutely, i do. i do, i think kids everywhere are scared to an extent and wondering, like, what's going to happen? what's going to change? and i said this before, but i think people are wondering, like, will my community be next? >> it has a lot of these events
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continue to show the use, they need to be shown. but that also means that people are going to be afraid. >> yes, i think i agree with sawhill. it's 100 percent affected our generation. the fact that we've gone through so many events like sandy hook i don't think we've got a single week this year without another shooting happening. and i really think that's heavily impacted, especially, especially kids and how they look at going to school. i know there are kids that, like, fear, just loud noises in general, because of everything that has happened in this generation, and i know i, personally, i struggle with unannounced drills in school. i don't know about you guys. but, like, if there's an unannounced lockdown drill, i go into panic mode.
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i'm hiding in a corner, like, my palms are sweating, and i'm just kind of reliving it in my mind. >> four of the sandy hook survivors tomorrow at 360. also tomorrow night, the cnn special report, sandy hook, forever remembered airs at ten pm eastern. coming up tonight, who is this guy and what did he do? why some are saying he tried to pull off one of the biggest financial frauds in u.s. history.
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including wire fraud, conspiracy to commit money laundering. if convicted on all eight counts, he could face up to 150 years in prison. now, separately, the sec charged him with defrauding investors and customers, regulators warn it could be the first of many charges. he was denied bail in the bahamas. our randi kaye looks at the rise and fall of ftx and bankman-fried, who is known as a crypto celebrity. here's her report. >> at the end of the day, look, there is a question of what happened and why? and who did what? >> questions 30 year old sam bankman-fried is going to have to answer. as the founder of the digital trading platform ftx, he was long considered a modern day jpmorgan. a recent fortune magazine cover asked whether the young billionaire was the next warren buffett. tom brady and gisele bundchen jumped on board as brand ambassadors. >> a trade, are you sure? >> not a trade trade, i'm treating crypto.
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>> ftx is the safest and easiest way to buy instill crypto. >> larry david promoted ftx during the super bowl. >> like i was saying, it's ftx, it's a safe and easy way to get into crypto. >> i don't think so. and i'm never wrong about this stuff, never. >> the nba's steph curry announced a long term partnership with ftx last year. bankman-fried even made a deal with the miami heat, renaming their home the ftx arena. it was a stunning rise for the m.i.t. graduate, only to be followed by a spectacular collapse. >> i should have been on top of this and i feel really, really bad and regretful that i wasn't at a lot of people got hurt, and that is on me. >> a lot of people got hurt because ftx was allegedly using investors ' money to bail out its partner firm, alameda research. bankman-fried had started the hedge fund alameda in november, 2017. he launched ftx a couple years later and it became a wildly popular exchange for buying and selling crypto. but when alameda creditors came
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calling, federal prosecutors and the securities and exchange commission allege ftx used billions in investor deposits to pay those creditors. in his interview with abc's good morning america, bankman-fried denied knowing that investors funds were allegedly being used to save his hedge fund. >> did you know that ftx deposits were used to pay off alameda creditors? >> i don't know of ftx deposits being used to pay off alameda creditors. i did not know that there's any improper use of customer funds. >> after the founder of a rival firm leaked the alleged mishandling of customer funds, investors rapidly began withdrawing billions from ftx. the trading platform filed for bankruptcy last month and bankman-fried resigned. long before that, he was a major political donor. a non partisan group which tracks money in politics found he donated more than $900,000 to candidates and nearly $39
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million to outside groups for midterms. most of this spending supported democrats. sam bankman-fried grew up in palo alto, california. his parents work as law professors at nearby stanford university. after graduating m.i.t. in 2014 with a degree in physics, bankman-fried worked as a trader at jane street capital before starting his own firm. his signature t-shirt and unkempt hair always on display. even in the company of former president bill clinton during a crypto conference earlier this year in the bahamas. >> and randy joins me now. is there any word on investors getting their money back? >> anderson, no word on when or if investors will get their money back. and of course, we are talking about billions of dollars that these investors gave this crypto company. but back on november 11th, he did issue a tweet, and this was
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after he filed for bankruptcy, and it says, i'm going to work on giving clarity on where things are in terms of user recovery, asap. well, now it's been weeks and investors have been given no sign of hope in terms of getting their money back. now, i also mentioned the miami heat, the ftx arena, which is now the name for their home arena. they want to completely disassociate themselves with ftx. they want their name taken off that arena. they don't want to do any more business with ftx and sam bankman-fried. they're looking for somebody else to name their arena. i also reached out to the celebrities who endorsed ftx, as you saw in our story, asking them for a comment. none of them would comment on this to cnn, anderson. >> randi, appreciate it, thank you. up next the chairman fox corporation, rupert murdoch, was expected to be deposed this morning in a defamation lawsuit from dominion voting systems over fox news's unfounded claims about the 2020 election. ahead, one-on-one with dominion voting systems ' ceo, on those baseless claims by the former president and his allies.
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