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we're at the top of the hour. i'm erica hill. >> and i'm jim scuitto. first, on capitol hill, good news, congressional goes announced overnight they have had a framework not a week for fund the government, but a full year of funding package. the threat of a shutdown thankfully appears to be over, but it could get messy as they turn it into legislation. also, the federal reserve expected to race interest rates for the seventh time this year, just how much could they dial back. with a controversial title 42
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set to end next week, the biden administration preparing for aen precedented surge of migrants. manu raju is on capitol hill. i always feel at moments like this, we talk about stalling, gridlock on capitol hill, rightfully so, because we see it with simple stuff. just yesterday there were worries about they may not fund for a week, but now they have at least the framework for a year. >> reporter: this is a big question. they did announce a framework agreement between three of the four key appropriators. those are the members of congress who draft the legislation, but we've seen no details and they will still haggle over the details.
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remember, this was supposed to be done by september 30th. if they adopt get an agreement by this friday, they'll have a one-week stop gap measure. there's one key group missing from endorsing this, house republicans, with opposition from kevin mccarthy, who is battling to become speaker, and courting the right-wing of the conference, which is steadfastly opposed to this measure. there's been tensions growing between senate republicans and house republicans, including mitch mcconnell who supports this deal, suggesting yesterday it would have broad agreement whether it ultimately comes together, but it underscores this growing divide between the two men who have split on key issues -- on ukraine, on guns,
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infrastructure, with both men dealing with different realities, dealing where different conferences, and are headed into a new power dynamic next year when republicans will control the house. that is the argument republicans are making in the house. they want to pump this into next year so they have a former hand to deal with it next year. >> you mentioned that battling battle, and mcconnell has won those, mostly, on bipartisan gun reform and this one. we'll see how that change in the house. manu raju, thanks so much. dana bash and errol lewis. there's not only this battle between mitch mcconnell and
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kevin mccarthy, but how we look at this, and kevin mccarthy telling people in a meeting he's a hell no on the omnibus package, is this the way they want to start in january? >> i'll take it, because i have a definite -- i wouldn't call it point of view, but my sense from my reporting is that the answer is yes, because the most important thing for that kevin mccarthy, erica, is becoming speaker. he is not going to become speaker it right now at the 11th hour, he angers some members of his very, very small and narrow incoming majority by supporting anything that would last for an
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entire year would be a political death nell. so he has no choice whether he thinking it's a good idea, and whether or not he does become speaker, okay, i'll take it, we don't know for sure, but when it comes to what he's telling his caucus, hell no is the only thing he with politically saying if he want those 218 votes. >> he doesn't have the 218 yet. if he gets them, how powerful a speaker would mckaefrt be, given the concessions he's being forced to make. >> that's the whole question. can it is a negotiation over lots and lots of difficult, so you have members of the freedom caucus, the conservative faction trying to make sure they extract
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something, and they want to basically yank him at any time in the middle of his speakership. that's how he toppled john boehner. if it is such a tenuous speakership that he could be removed at any point by an organized faction, it won't be a very powerful sporeeakership at all. they want him to -- if he as going to be the opposition speaker, he wants him to act like it, and oppose almost anything coming out of the democratic side of the house. >> can i add one thing? just because kevin mccarthy is saying hell no doesn't mean it's diamond. we're talking about votes based on the current congress, which is run by democrats in the
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house. >> that's an important point. i'm glad you made that as well. john wear 6th, we learned there's going to be a final hearing next week. the panel is looking at five to six categories of referrals which will be announced, one of them being ethics referrals. dana, what are you expecting out of that? >> look, there are several members of the house, sitting members of the house. scott perry is the first that comes to mind, given the news that cnn broke last night about the justice department looking at his text messages, who have defied their colleagues in the subpoenas that they have gotten, and they have just blown them off form so one of the questions is whether or not the economiee that was blown off will refer these members to the ethics committee, what is interesting, because, again, we are on the cusp of a new congress, in the
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new congress, the january 6th committee won't exist. there's no way republicans will keep that committee. the ethics committee is different. it's an evenly split committee. my understanding, in talking to a former mob of that committee last night, just because there's a new congress doesn't mean a referral will die. it will carry over until and through into the next congress. >> interesting to see. dana, errol, we have to leave it there. good to see you both this morning. thank you. in about two hours, the man accused of attacking nancy pelosi's husband in his home with a hammer, will appear in a san francisco courtroom. he's set to face local charges there. he's already pled not guilty to a slew of charges. according to corporate documents, he was searching for the house speaker.
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following the attack instead on her husband, he had surgery to repair a fracture to his skull,ally with his as injuries to his right arm and hands. at any moments, sur"survivor" from -- survivors from the club q are set to testify on capitol hill. >> some of the survivors were invited to the white house yesterday as the president signed the law. don lemon was at the white house event, spoke to the owner of club q, as well as some of the survivors. i wonder what they want to you. >> good morning to both of you. quite frankly, they are excited
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about testifies. they know they lived through a or arriving ordeal. they were happy they were invited to the white house for the codification of same-sex marriage. three weeks ago, they said they could not have imagined being in this position, having lived through the trauma and then see the president do this. looking forward to speak to congress today, but their lives have changed. the survivor, owner and bartender all spoke with me, standing in front of the white house. >> i'm doing better, relatively speaking. we did an interview back when i was in the hospital, a bullet in my arm, a rod through my arm. luckily i have a lot of mobility. it's coming back. i still have to go through pt most likely, but better
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relatively. seeing all of this, this is it. this is, like they said, inspiring. that's the best way to put it. >> as a club owner, did you ever think in a million years that obviously this would happen? you have spoken about that. >> going further back, as a gay male, struggling when i was coming out, never would i imagine i would be here at the white house actually saying that you're right to marry is now protected by federal law. then, of course, then you throw in our little club in colorado springs that, never did we think it would have a voice, and sfroers all the wrong reasons is why we're here, is because we were attacked. our community was invaded, but, geren, we use the word "inspiring" this has been inspiring, giving you hope and probably the most uplifting thing certainly i would say that
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all three of us have experienced since the incident happened at club q. >> bullets will not stop our community and the majority of the community around us, our allies. we're going to prevail. love wins. >> obviously it's awful, they are recovering from what happened, but they're excited about the opportunity to get in front of lawmakers and the american people and try to correct the wrong. >> in terms of correcting those wrongs, as you point out, what is there? it's so important to we're even having these hearings. that is their broader message? what do they hope to quay to lawmakers to get them to listen. >> to stop the rhetoric. to stop the hate, online, even from the lawmakers in ads going back to their constituents, using it to fund raise, because
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they feel it ultimately leads to what happened at club q. they feel more people will die or get injured because of -- in many ways lawmakers' actions, don't understand the lgbtq community, sort of cast them aside and use members of the community -- i say you, because i'm one of them -- as political pawns. >> they try to stoke fear oftentimes. >> yeah. >> in a way where there's no need for fear, only need for passion, discussion and understanding. >> thank you. good to see you as well, jim. >> always good to have you on, don. still to come this hour, the federal reserve will announce its decision on interest rates. what will it mean for your finances? plus the biden administration bracing now for a growing number of migrants to enter the u.s. as a policy comes
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it is decision day for the fed, as they wrap up their two-day policy meeting and prepare to announce another rate hike. this hike could be different.
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catherine rampell joins us now, so a hike is expected here, but we're told it's likely going to be a half a percentage point versus the three quarters we have been seeing. rate hikes typically take, as i understand it, to show that they're starting to have a big impact, so the first big increase was june. do we know if we've seen inflation as a direct result of that one? >> there's this line about how monetary policy has long and lag, which is the bane of the fed. it could be six months, a year, we don't know what. what the at the is worried about is inflation has persisted much longer. they don't want it to become entrenched.
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we don't see signs of that happening, fortunately. the recent data that have come in have indicated that inflation does seem to be moderating, which is why i think the fed is probably more comfortable with a slightly smaller rate hike today. that doesn't mean, however, they're going to stop keeping their foot on the brakes. it doesn't mean they're going to stop raising interest rates, just that they may not have done it as aggressively. >> so maybe some breathing room, but not so much, as you point out, that we have to worry. i have fascinated watching the outsing market over the last couple years they've had a major impact on people's mortgages, what they pay every month. the people we want it feels -- homes have become expensive both to buy and to render. have we seen a tangible impact at this point on prices, on the housing market that we can tie
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back to these rate hikes? >> absolutely. remember, over the past couple years, housing price versus gone way up. that's a combination of a few different factors. one is the pandemic shifting people's preferences for where they want to live, how much space they want. rates were very low, interest rates were very low for a long time, and, of course, you have the aging of the millennial generation into the prime child-bearing and home-buying years. that's put pressure on prices, then the rates went trfrom 3% t over 6%. the monthly cost of paying down a mortgage has gone way up. you've seen some impact on prices on far, but not nearly enough for offset the -- as a result if you talk to economists, particularly since
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it looks like they're going to stay high, and as long as they're going to stay high and people can't afford to buy homes, those prices will have to come down a bit. >> you and i have talked about this economy we're living in, there's really no handbook for it a lot of the traditional models, everybody is throwing that out the window. as you're looking at where we're at, what are you watching to give you a sense of the economy and how things are really doing? >> frankly, it's very confusing to get a handle on where things are headed. if you look at the job market, the job market still looks very strong. unemployment rates are close to lows. there's a lot of job vacancies out there. on the other hand, there's concern about a pending
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recession, in part bought the fed has been tightening financial conditions. there's there's other puzzles. why are there so few people participating. is it because more people retired? is it because we have fewer immigrants? is it because of persistent child care issues? it's hard to make sense of the overall picture. of course, like everyone else, i'm paying attention to prices to the job market and some of the squishier measures to see how people and what that indicates. >> it's such a big part of it, when you have a economy that depends on consumer spending. thank you, catherine. the biden administration is spending more agents to el paso, as a growing number of migrants cross into that city from mexico.
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agents to tex, preparing for an expected 9 to 14,000 migrants a day. that would more than double the current number of people crossing the border. it's a move that comes as a covid-era policy established under former president trump, extended under president biden is said to end. >> ed lavandera is in el paso, texas, seeing an influx. you've been covering the border and surges for year. here comes another one. what preparations do you see being made there? are they sufficient, or even close to sufficient to meet these numbers? >> reporter: well, really it's going to end up, depending on exactly how many people start arriving at these border locations. we're starting to get a sense of what that could look like. you see there in the distance behind me, that's the border
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fence. on the other side is the rio grande, into juarez on the mexico side. that's been a gathering spot where hundreds of thousands of migrants have gathered. in fact, we have seen that this morning as border patrol agents very escorting long lines of migrants that arrived here, and they are being walked over to a processing center, where some of them will be sent back into mexico because of title 42. others might receive paperwork and an immigration court date. this continues to happen as this city in particular braces for the possibility lifting of title 42 next week. sun fade away over el paso, a large group of migrants stand on the borders's edge waiting to be processed, while a few other tiptoe across a short path of
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the rio grande. this is happening as the projected end of a trump-era covid restriction draws closer, ending the policy to swiftly expel migrants at u.s. land borders, border authorities interacted with more than 2 million migrants in the last year up from the previous year. in recent days, an average of almost 25 hundred migrants a day have been moving across this border between mexico and the u.s. through el paso. >> title 42 will make that situation worse, so we're going to see more released to the community and we're not prepared for it. >> reporter: just three weeks ago, the seven-day rolling ample was fewer than 1700. thousands of migrants are now coming from central and south america as well as cuba, according to u.s. immigration officials. >> helping them god food,
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whatever they need. this is not about politics, this is about humanity. these people are here and they're cold. >> they've been caverning out in mexico, raising concerns they will cross en masse. still others versus board odd buses to be processed, or turned around under the provisions of title 42. >> we're taking steps to manage the expiration of title 42, and put a process in place that would be efficient and humane. >> reporter: now the immediate problem is housing a large influx. >> the if the courts allow title 42 to be lifted, we're going to be thousands of refugees for whom there isn't shelter. >> reporter: the direct offer of a local shelter says border patrol recently dropped a busload of migrants at his
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doorstep. he's worried he'll have to soon turn people away. >> we'll have to say no, not because we want to, but simply we don't have space. the reality is there's just too many people. >> reporter: the department of homeland security says it's sending more agents to handle the surge they have seen in the last few days, which has very little to do with title 42, but also they're sending in personnel to help the processing of all of these migrants. a lot of times they just cross the river into el paso, and literal just stand on the other side of that border wall. they turn themselves into agents and begin the process of waiting to be processed, but here the processing centers are over capacity and backed up. it takes a considerable amount of time. >> congress has not been able to come together to even start those conversations.
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the popular tiktok in the u.s. there's new legislation that aims to ban the short-form video app from operating anywhere in the u.s. this comes as at least seven individual states have already banned the app from being used on state devices. joining me is a cyberpolicy fellow. sam, good to have you on? >> thanks for having me. >> you wrote back in 2020 that banning tiktok was, quote, a terrible idea. tell us why. >> they're a legitimate national security question as to who has access to the data, particularly in places like china. what does it mean the algorithm can push for high certainly content. the question is, how did we actually create a more safe, security and open internet for
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u.s. users. i wrote that banning it wouldn't make the data more secure. so the question is, how do we solve these problems? >> so, i mean, that is the question. i've been told by folks at intel for years, don't touch tiktok. one, they will make the point there is no firewalls between private companies and the government, and they worry that tiktok gathers information, data, facial recognition data included. so how could folks alleviate those security concerns without banning it, protect it. >> my position is that the fefl government has been engaged for a national security process that would mitigate those concerns. based on my experience, the plan would look at who has access tots data, put in place a robust process so that it is u.s.
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government could understand who has access to it. oracle would be vetting and verifying the source code, the algorithm, the governance structure. we have a potential solution on the table. the question is, could politician or protectism derail what, in my view, could make tiktok more secure thatten most other social media platforms in the u.s. >> let me ask you this. china has a history for years the hacking data left and right. they've got involved in some of the most catastrophic hacks, anthem, marriott hotels, information about people's travel, the office of personnel management for government folks. why would we expect, even if he do come to an agreement on protections like this, that china would follow those rules? >> look, the reality is americans' data is shockingly exposed. this is a far bigger issue than
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china. equifax, for example, opm, the security problems and the fact they retain such sensitive data without the security made it very exposed to sophisticated state hackers. i think rather that focus on a dun's origin, we should focus on how do we actually protect the data in a way that is so much bigger than china. even if tiktok is banned, americans' data can be sold to the chinese government by other social media platforms in an open market that is completely unregulated now. >> you mentioned some other ones there. samm sacks, good to have you on. certainly something we'll continue to talk about. >> thank you so much. alarming numbers about mortality. we'll take a closer look at what researchers found. next. it was easy.
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news. a medical story we're following, a new report finds that maternal and infant death rates are dramatically higher in states that ban or restrict abortion. the report also finds the rate of women dying in pregnancy, childbirth or post port many increased twice as fast in those same states. >> cnn's health reporter jacqueline howard joins us. as our team can attest to, i was struck by these numbers this morning. these are not numbers from the past few months, so i imagine there is also concern that the state-by-date disparity could grow even more? >> the rates in these states were already high, but the death rates are from recent years '18 through '22. the researchers looked at states
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and to their babies. if you don't have access to that care, that could increase the risks for mortality. >> it's truly shocking. jacqueline howard, thank you so much. today marks ten years since 20 first graders and six educators were murder indeed a mass shooting in sandy hook elementary school. tonight cnn looks at what has changed. a preview of that special report is next. ♪ it's subway's biggest refrfresh yet! it went from gabe. to gretta. to gabby. to grand. then, gertrude found something for it. delsym. and now what's goi around is 12-hour cough relief. and the giggles. and the great dane pup. and grandma's gluten-free gooseberry pie.
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our nation is missing a piece of its soul. those were emotional words from president biden just this morning, as, if you can believe it, we're marking ten years, a decade since the sandy hook school massacre of all those little kids. the president proclaimed december 14th a day of remembrance for the 20 first
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graders and six teachers who lost their lives in that shooting. >> alisyn camerota spoke with survivors of that horrific day, families who lost loved ones. here's a preview now of her special report. take a look. >> it's been ten years. >> i literally dropped to the ground. >> i thought, oh, gosh, this isn't good. i was just running into our family van, just flying. >> since a lone gunman entered sandy hook and killed 20 children and 6 adults. >> it was so horrific, children begging for their lives, the boyer time thinking we're going to be next. >> a tuned nation was left grieving. >> i was sure that sandy hook would change everything. how could you watch that and decide not thought something
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about it. >> don't ever think this couldn't be staged. >> tonight we take you inside the battle for disinformation. >> it was the hardest thing i've ever had to do since my son's murder. >> how did a kid get his hands on a rifle with a high-capacity magazine. >> we have hurt a generation of kids by not being able to find ways forward. >> and their vow to stop similar tragedies. >> it's the way i feel to honor daniel, to prevent other families from having to endure a life of pain. >> it is such an important look. connecticut senator chris murphy, who of course was elected not long before this tragedy, speaking right now about that event. we'll show you some of those words he just shared. take a look.
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>> my sorrow today is what we loss ten years ago, for the genius and talent extinguished from this earth. about you also my sorrow today is for the fact that it took sandy hook to wake this country up to what had abhappening in front of us every single day, and to really understand the gravity of sandy hook, you can't just think about those kids. that's the worst part of this, by leaps and bounds, but there are survivors. there are children who witnessed those shootings. there are family members that experienced deep trauma, there are first responders who will never be the same after having to sort through that carnage but
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also the broad sweepings trauma that comes with a shooting of 20 young. our love so must it go to the broader experience of gun violence. i live in hartford connecticut, i live in the south end of hartford i hear every night just to kind of talk with these kids about what they wanted to change about the neighborhood we live
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in. you know what they wanted to talk to me about? they wanted to buck about that walk to and from school. they wanted to talk about how dangerous it is to walk from their house to the school that they go to, and how every single day, they are experiencing a trauma that many people that grow up in the suburbs or rural areas will never experience once in their life, these kids experience every single day. >> senator murphy speaking moments ago, he has repeatedly talked about how sandy hook changed him forever. the cnn special report "sandy hook remembered" airs tonight right here on cnn 10:00 p.m. eastern. thanks for joining us today. "at this hour with kate bolduan" starts right now. hello there. at this