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shortage in china which even the government stepped in to say, please. this is not a cure. we saw the empty shelves. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: so canned peaches are this childhood snack in parts of country but really bizarre and fascinating is people are rushing to buy it because they think either the nutrition can help with immunity or because they are going after the rumors that circulated that canned peaches can treat covid. there are all these videos circulating on social media with canned peach factories talking about working overtime to meet demand. one factory said orders jumped by tenfold. canned peach searches surging dramatically. health experts tell me part of the surge shows how little trust there is and little information from health authorities that they're willing to rely on canned peaches as a home remedy. >> wow. incredible. sounds of course crazy. so does drinking bleach to cure covid.
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thank you so much. thanks so much to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. we start tonight with breaking news. a confirmed tornado touched down in new orleans and another in nearby st. bernard parish leaving a trail of destruction about two miles. at least one person is reported dead in st. charles parish about 20 miles upriver from new orleans. you're seeing some of the damage now as we are seeing it. the mayor of gretna, louisiana across the river from new orleans calls the severe weather worse than hurricane ida which hit last year. she says homes are collapsed. cars are turned over. there are live wires everywhere. we'll talk to her in a moment. more than 40 tornadoes have been reported in the past two days across texas, oklahoma, louisiana, and mississippi. we'll go to jennifer gray live at the cnn weather center. talk about the timing of these tornadoes tonight and what we should expect. >> well, this has been unreal, anderson. this is something we started to see unfold yesterday morning across the dallas/ft. worth area, went through northwest
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louisiana last night, and now finally making it to southeast louisiana. this has been a very slow moving system. as you mentioned, we have seen numerous tornado reports. we had over 40 since yesterday and a handful around the new orleans area. i think it will be tomorrow morning when the sun comes up when we finally see the scope of the devastation. luckily tonight they are finally in the clear. >> what is the biggest threat right now? >> basically southern mississippi, on into alabama. you can see the hot pink boxes. those are tornado warnings. tornadoes could be in progress in these areas so people are urged to get into their safe spots. these tornadoes are going to be just as severe going through the overnight hours into tomorrow morning as they are right now. and so that is very important to note as people are going to sleep. you've got to have a way to get warnings because these storms have just left a path of destruction far and wide across multiple states. as we go into tomorrow morning, you can see the timing of this.
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through atlanta, by thursday morning, then the southeast, mid-atlantic is going to get a lot of the rain. by the time it gets to these areas, though, it will be weakening some. i want to stress, tonight through tomorrow morning, these storms are going to be very potent and have the capability of producing tornadoes. >> appreciate it. thanks very much. i want to turn to the lieutenant of louisiana -- lieutenant governor of louisiana. what are you hearing from officials across the state right now? >> there's been two deaths, one in st. charles. many injuries. the latest assessment is about 50 homes destroyed. they're still counting and getting to areas. one of these tornadoes actually started in gretna, went through algiers, part of orleans, jumped the river into st. bernard and did destruction the whole way as it crossed the mississippi river. >> are there rescue operations going on or still trying to
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assess the damage? >> yeah, the sheriffs and all the rescue people are out trying to get power lines off the streets and with dark coming on us now they're trying to get people to shelters. we're moving travel trailers into our state parks in those areas so people have places to stay come light tomorrow as they get back and clean up home sites. >> do you have any sense how many people may be without power tonight? >> right now the latest estimate is right over 40,000. that's because they got power back on in some areas that lost it earlier. this storm damaged, went through all 64 parishes. 15 tornadoes i believe touched down is the latest report in north louisiana down to south louisiana. so it was widespread. >> do you think you're through the worst of it now? >> yes, it's past us now. we were lucky this hurricane season. louisiana was spared. this storm didn't spare us at all. and it touched every part of the
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state. >> lieutenant governor, always good to talk to you. i appreciate it. >> thank you, my friend. joining us now in hard hit gretna, louisiana the mayor and chief of police. mayor, what are you seeing right now in your parish? >> we've seen catastrophic destruction from both ends of the city starting from the municipality right next to us jefferson parish all the way out over to orleans through the entire, one strip through the entire city. >> mayor, i understand you said earlier it looks worse than hurricane ida which hit the area last year. can you explain for people what that means in terms of damage? >> in hurricane ida we had a lot of roof damage. severe roof damage. and some structures. but this has blazed a trail of total destruction, as i said, probably over a mile the entire length of our city on the north side of the expressway of our city, closer to the river we are
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at about eight blocks off the mississippi, where it struck, and the trail that it blazed. so there's probably we're estimating somewhere right under 5,000 structures based on just the first preview. of course, it's nighttime now and the police are here. i want him to talk about security in the city. it's significant. >> chief lawson from a law enforcement standpoint what are you seeing and what are you concerned about most? >> our biggest concern right now, we have an enormous amount of power lines down, hundreds of structures that are damaged that roofs are off buildings, collapsed buildings, buildings and homes moved off of slabs. our biggest concern now is putting out light plants to control traffic and those that want to sight see. we haven't had any problems with any type of looting or anything like that.
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it's basically been getting people back into safety. we had some people in structures that we had to get out. we've had some individuals that we've had to bring to the hospital with our ems service. but that's our biggest concern right now is the safety and making the environment safe so people tomorrow can get around and check their properties and see what type of damage they have. because i believe tomorrow when the daylight comes we'll see a lot more damage than we see now. >> chief, that is an important point. folks right now, because night has come, and some people are in their homes, you don't have a sense of the total extent of the damage yet, is that right? >> no. we don't. we have a large area through the city that has damage where the tornado has touched down, skipped, touched back down, ran for a good ways. as i said, we have a lot of homes, a lot of structures that are damaged. some, you know, you can't tell.
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we have a lot of two story homes and businesses and residences in the old section of gretna. you can't assess the damage yet because of the darkness. >> mayor, what is your message to people tonight? >> our message is just, please, stay in. stay at home safely for those that do not have any damage. people kind of riding around, trying to do their own assessment is not safe at this time. we have gas leaks across the city that the fire company is dealing with and they're doing assessments relative to those type things. so it is critical that we just have people understand how important it is to stay at home. there is a shelter that has been set up and there is a local number, our emergency number for our residents has been televised so they know if they need assistance to please reach out to our emergency numbers so we can meet their needs as quickly as possible.
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and then tomorrow, it is about recovery. first thing in the morning. >> i appreciate your time tonight. our thoughts are certainly with you and the community and all of those impacted by these storms. we appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. there is much more ahead tonight. it has been ten years since one of america's darkest days. the massacre at sandy hook elementary school. in a moment four survivors of the attack share what they've faced in the last ten years and how it has changed their community and this country. plus a new homeland security intelligence memo obtained by cnn concerning predictions of a worsening crisis at the border likely next week. we'll take you to our southern border, coming up. what matters most to her.asn and she can simply focus on right now. that's the planning effectct. from fidelity.
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merry christmas to each and every one. as we celebrate christmas you may wonder if jesus christ can make a difference in your life.
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you bet he can. that's why he came, to save us from our sins. he came to this earth as a baby, took our sins to the cross 33-years later, and he shed his blood on that cross, and he died for you and for me. but on the third day, god raised him to life. he's not dead. he's alive. if you have never invited him into your heart. if you've never trusted him as your savior, you can do that right now. just pray this prayer with me, just say, "dear god, "i'm a sinner. "i'm sorry for my sins. "forgive me. "i believe that jesus is your son. "i believe that he took my sins to the cross, "that he died in my place, "and i believe that you raised him to life. "i want to trust him now as my savior, "and follow him as my lord. "i pray this in jesus' name, "amen." if you prayed that prayer, call that number.
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i see an amazing place. feels like a dream. a place of many wonders - and full of life. i open my eyes: earth is our pandora. ten years ago today was the day that shook this country and it can still be felt. about 9:30 am a disturbed 20-year-old man arrived at sandy hook elementary school in new town, connecticut.
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he had already murdered his mother. he carried a bush master ar-15 style rifle and two hand guns and shot his way past the school's new security system and would go on to murder six adults and 20 children before also killing himself. it was one of america's deadliest mass shootings and the deadliest ever at a grade school. but tonight before we delve into sandy hook's lasting influence on the country at large, on the families of the victims, and on the survivors of that day, some of whom we'll hear from in a moment, i want to spaend a few minutes remembering the children who should be planning for college and a career right now and the staff who gave their lives to try and save them and their classmates. charlotte bacon was 6 years old. her family remembered her as sweet, outgoing, full of energy. she loved school and she loved wearing dresses. daniel barden was 7. he played drums in a band with his brother and sister. he loved the beach and making s'mores. rachel devino was 29. she was a behavioral therapist who worked with children in the
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autism spectrum. she didn't know it but her best friend, her boyfriend was going to propose to her on christmas eve. olivia engal was 6 and led grace at the family dinner table, she was in the girl scouts, loved musicals and her family loved her sense of humor and said she always lit up a room. josephine gay, just days before her murder was her birthday. she loved ride are her bike and sold lemonade in the neighborhood. dylan hochuli was also 6. he and his family moved to connecticut from england two years earlier. he loved to read and he was ald so proud when he could read his family a new book. and murphy's husband said when she was found she was holding dylan hochuli in her arms. the principal of sandy hook elementary school, her friends describe her as nice and fun but also tough when she needed to
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be. she was a principal after all. she left behind a husband, two daughters, and three step daughters. madeline su was 6. an avid reader. she loved to run and dance. she was a born leader, sweet, determined, bright, and sparkling. catherine hubbard was 6 also. her mom said she loved her pets and other animals and that catherine wanted to be a care taker at an animal sanctuary when she grew up. at 7, he loved baseball, cub scouts, and a neighbor says days before the shooting chase told them he asked santa for his two front teeth back. je jesse lewis was 6 too. he loved riding horses and fishing and playing ball with his dad. he was working with his dad to restore a tractor in time for the labor day parade. the plan was to throw candy from the back. anna green was 6 too. her family called her the glue that held our family together. beautiful and vibrant they said
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she could sing with perfect pitch and style. james was 6, too. his family said he loved the outdoors, singing at the top of his lungs. they said he once asked how old do i have to be to sing on a stage? grace mcdonald was 7. she loved drawing. i actually have a copy of a drawing she made her mom lynn gave me. her parents said her dream was to live on the beach and be a painter. she is survived by her mom dad and dad chris and brother jack. emily parker was 6. she was learning portugese when she was murdered. her family says she was an exceptional artist. jack pinto was 6. he loved football and won a medal after participating in his first ever wrestling match shortly before he was murdered. noah posner was 6 and the youngest of the victims. his aunt told me after the murder he of the rambunctious but could get anything he wanted when he looked at you with those big beautiful blue eyes.
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# 6 years old as well, a big new york yankees fan, her brother said she refused to go to fenway park when her family visited boston. jessica rico was 6 and mad about horses. she asked santa for new cowboy boots and a cow girl hat. 6 as well, she loved horses, her trainer said she loved them so much she'd giggle when she trotted. lauren russo was a permanent substitute teacher, 32 years old. her mother said she wanted to be a teacher from even before she went to kindergarten. at 56, the school psychologist, enthusiastic gardener, loved reading and the theater, was married, had two daughters. a first grade teacher, she moved her students away from the door when she heard gun fire. her family said she wanted to be a teacher since the age of 3. benjamin wheeler was 6. he loved the beatles and soccer and swimming and recently performed at a piano recital. allison wyatt was 6.
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she was an artist and so generous she once offered her snacks to a stranger on a plane. 26 lives and we remember them tonight ten years later. earlier i sat and spoke with four students who survived the attack on sandy hook elementary school. three were in second grade and jordan gomes in fourth grade. they are now between ages of 17 and 19 and trying to lead lives that have been forever scarred by that day. you remember that day? >> yeah, i do pretty vividly. >> you were in second grade >> i was a second grader at the time. so i was in the classroom and i remember we were all sitting on the carpet. she was doing a read aloud. all of a sudden i heard a very loud bang, a sound i had never heard before. and i remember she looked very concerned and went to the door immediately and closed it and ushered us all to the corner of
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the classroom away from the window and the doorway. >> you were in second grade and you didn't know what the bang was i assume. >> no. i didn't at all. at the time i remember thinking it had like a -- had a loud pan fallen in the cafeteria. i was so confused. going through the motions and doing what the teacher told me. the intercom turned on in the school and amplified everything that was going on. we heard screaming from the classrooms, just loud sounds in the hallways. we were just sitting there. >> so you could hear other classrooms over the intercom. >> we definitely, it definitely amplified the screams coming from hallways and the sounds of the gunshots over the intercom, yeah. >> do you guys remember anything? >> i have like a very selective memory of that day almost, so i remember the shots. i don't remember anything else, well, any other sounds except
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just the shots. >> you were both in the same classroom. >> yes. >> but yeah. i remember just being told we couldn't go a certain way. we had to go out this one way. >> how about you? >> i remember the police leading us out and just getting escorted and i remember seeing broken glass on the ground when i looked toward my left because we were passing one of the hallways for the third and fourth graders and i just remember like that's where he came in through. >> you were in fourth grade. >> yeah. i was in, i had a little different experience than you guys because i wasn't actually in one of the classrooms. i was in the gym which is like one hallway over. and i was sitting with my class about to, you know, do some normal gym activities for the day. i think we were doing rope climbing which i was really excited for and i remember the same thing, which is i heard a really loud bang and it sounded like something metal being dropped. at that point my teacher ran over to lock the door and also ushered us into the corner and
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was telling us to be very quiet, you know, don't speak to anyone. try to keep it down. and i remember also the loud speaker as well. i think that was the thing that stuck out the most for me as i got older because of the things that we heard over it. >> my dad died when i was 10 years old and i've always thought i've divided my life between the person i was before my dad died and the person i was after and the 10-year-old boy that i was before and the child i was after. and i became much more withdrawn and serious and introverted. i heard you say something similar. can you talk about that a little bit? >> yes. i've often, like, classified my life like that. it's like, before 12-14 and after 12-14. sometimes there are surreal moments. i don't know if you guys have that. like oh, my god that actually happened. i can't believe i was in the school. so -- >> even to this day. >> even to this day sometimes.
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it's like a whoa moment. i mean, i guess what i'm trying to say is, like, before 12-14 i was this happy child always smiling. my mom was always like oh, she's such a happy child. and after 12-14 i was more withdrawn. i always got the oh, you're so mature for your age. and that kind of stung in a certain way. >> do any of you feel kind of marked by that day in some way? >> absolutely >> i mean, i think especially in terms of mental health. i know i struggled a lot especially when i was younger with ptsd and anxiety and my parents would walk in on me having screaming fits because i couldn't come to terms with what happened. i look at how i acted prior to that day. and not only just me but my brother and my family and my friends and our entire community. and it is such a stark before
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and after. like, it's just, i think it changed everybody. forever. >> definitely. >> how about you? >> yeah. i think we all changed in some sort of way. like i suffer from ptsd and anxiety and sandy hook was like a big factor. i used to suffer from like nightmares and, like, night terrors and i think that made me feel like my innocence was stolen. like my childhood. >> that's how it feels to you. >> mm-hmm. and something i would never get back. >> the nightmares were a big thing for me, too, because i think so many kids, you know, their nightmares are of monsters and demons and things that don't really exist, but we were facing a reality where those monsters and demons kicked down our front door. it was real. it was like impossible to escape. my parents and i didn't really know how to deal with it. >> how often do you think about it? do you think about what happened?
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i mean, is it something a daily thing in your life? >> every day. i would say. it just really passing thoughts like if i look at my phone and it's 12:14 p.m. i'll be like 1214. it is just inescape abl. or i see a green ribbon even if it is not for sandy hook because a lot of other causes have the similar sign. i'll think about it. any time there's anything on the news about a mass shooting, even if it's not at a school i think about it. it's inescapable for me anyway. >> it's something i think about daily. much like jordan said. even like the simplest things can kind of, like, trigger this flashing thought that just crosses my mind. yeah. >> what kind of things? >> a chip bag. something as simple as that. >> balloon popping. >> balloon popping is a big one for me.
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fireworks. i have these neighbors that set off fireworks at every single holiday. and it's awful. >> you know, i'm in touch with a number of families who lost children that day and many of them have had to deal with this whole other horror of people who doubt the reality of what happened, you know, spread made up stories and said terrible things about them. has that been something you've followed? has that impacted your world at all s all? >> i've heard of the conspiracy theories and sandy hook did happen and i feel like my memories and emotions are swept under the rug because people don't believe what we went through but it did happen. >> since i started with my advocacy i've come face to face with a lot of these so-called truthers. they always want to say something to me. and, you know, they're not always violent. sometimes they're rude. sometimes they're yelling at me.
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sometimes they're completely calm and just don't really care about what i have to say. they're just like it didn't happen and you're a liar. >> you've had people actually say that to you. >> i've had people say a lot of very insensitive, that is probably the most tame thing being called a liar. you know, there's, you know, crisis actor, you know, people just asking me all these crazy questions, like, you know, what it was like to be acting all that. like, you know, if like fake gunshots hurt. >> do you think this has impacted entire generation of young people? i mean, those who have grown up since columbine to, you know, or just even since sandy hook, to now, do you think your generation has been shaped by these shootings? >> absolutely i do. i do. i think kids everywhere are scared to an extent and wondering what's going to happen? what's going to change?
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and i said this before but i think people are wondering, will my community be next? and as long as these events continue to show on the news and they need to be shown but that also means that people are going to be afraid. >> yes. i think i agree with saahil. it a hundred percent affects our generation. the fact that we've gone through so many events like sandy hook, i don't think we've gone a single week this year without another shooting happening. and i really think that's heavily impacted especially, especially kids and how they look at going to school. i know there's kids that, like, fear just loud noises in general because of everything that has happened in this generation and ini, personally, struggle with unannounced drills in school >> i don't know about you guys.
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tomorrow will be one month since the former president launched his third run at the white house and new polls suggest republican voters may be tiring of the former president's once promised so much winning. instead polls suggest after a brutal midterm for his chosen candidates plus a never ending series of bad headlines they are perhaps more receptive than ever for a new party standard bearer. it is not good news for president biden either as voters of all stripes may be ready for new candidates on both sides. for the details we go to cnn's john king.
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>> reporter: anderson, i know for many people it is too early to talk 2024 but consider this poll a baseline and this clear conclusion. voters in both parties are looking for somebody new, clear majorities. we asked republicans, republican leading voters in our poll do you want donald trump to be the nominee for the republicans in 2024 or a different candidate? more than 6 in 10 republicans say somebody new, please. 38% say donald trump. president biden fare a little better but not all that much. look at this. 6 in 10. 59% of democrats or democratic leaning voters say we'd like a new candidate in 2024. 4 in 10 democrats say let's stick with the incumbent democrat we have. and so what though if trump is the nominee? would republicans vote for him? two-thirds say yes. that is significant. it doesn't mean this would stick for two years. 32% of republicans say no. that leaves an opening for democrats to get those votes. two-thirds say yes. on this question, anderson, joe biden does fare a little better. 66 trump and 78% of democrats say maybe we'd prefer a new candidate but if joe biden is
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our nominee in 2024 we will vote to re-elect. nearly 8 in 10 democrats say that. 22% say no. what about your trajectory? how are you ending the year compared to how you began the year? let's start with the president. president biden is in better shape. at the beginning of the year he was at 45%. then in july he dipped to 25%. here in december, 40% of democrats say he should be their nominee. not as strong as he was to open the year but stronger than he was in the summer time. it is the flip side when you look at this from the trump question. at the beginning of 2022, 50% of republicans say we want donald trump as our nominee. that dropped to 44% in july. it is now down to 38%. so the trajectory for trump is heading in the wrong direction. president biden has stabilized some. now if your name is someone besides trump you're in strong shape in the republican primaries. that's a joke but look at the poll. 53% of republicans, republican leaning voters said we want somebody besides trump. they're open minded as to who it should be. there is no doubt if you look at
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this poll and other polling out there the florida governor ron desantis is, if it is not trump, is in the strongest position at this very, very, very early day. look. 38% of republican or republican leaning voters say ron desantis. nobody else gets even close. mitt romney was the nominee in 2012. mike pence was president trump's vice president. they are all at 1%. ron desantis has a commanding position at this early stage. unless someone besides trump gets in the republican race. anderson? >> john king, appreciate it. thank you. perspective from our political analyst gloria berger and the former assistant to president bush and senator mitch mcconnell. gloria, little appetite for a 2020 rematch between trump and biden. still a lot can happen. >> i'll say. we should point out both of these men are very popular in
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their own party. the democrats still like joe biden if he runs. and donald trump has a very, very strong base in the republican party. but the difference between the two parties is as john was just showing you that republicans feel like they have a solid alternative. that alternative is ron desantis. when you ask democrats, you know, if not joe biden, who, 72% of them said they had no particular favorite. so they don't know who to turn to. they're not saying kamala harris for example. they're saying maybe this person or that person. so that is really good actually for joe biden. because the democrats are saying, well, who else is there out there that we would really be as enthusiastic about? and the answer is, we don't know. >> scott, i know you think things have changed in the last month among certain republicans and their support for the former president which appears to be reflected in this poll. do you think this represents a permanent shift?
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>> i do. i think it is a continuing shift. i think you'll continue to see this change. what is remarkable is that ron desantis hasn't had to do much of anything other than win re-election and in convincing fashion. donald trump announced a campaign and has been out there talking on his own behalf and it is getting worse and worse while desantis is getting better and better so the effort trump is having to extend is not showing up in the poll. the number that jumped out is 32% of republicans said they didn't want to back trump as nominee in 2024 i think a lot of those people would go home eventually but it tells you everything you need to know about how weak trump would be as a general election candidate if democrats pick off just a few republicans in key states, like i don't know, georgia, which is exactly what happened in the senate race and makes it really easy for a democrat to win in a purple state. you see cracks among republicans but you also see the plain truth. if we nominate trump and they nominate biden, republicans are going to lose.
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if the republicans nominate someone new they have a much better chance to win. >> do you agree with that if republicans nominated whether desantis or somebody new, that they would have a better chance to win than, and the democrats, you know, would be running joe biden in that case presumably? >> yeah. i think so. i think the other thing that was on the poll that showed that is how biden and trump are both perceived where you have the vast majority of voters saying they see biden as being a pretty main stream person and the vast majority of people seeing donald trump as being, having very extreme views. and because, you know, the voters that you really have to get, you're going to get your base voters. i do think even if people are not enthusiastic right now when this becomes a head-to-head match if you had biden versus trump democrats are going to show up for that. that will be the motivator. they will get more enthusiastic about biden. i think the fact that you can
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see that biden is so much more acceptable to more moderate voters, to more independent voters, in terms of people just seeing him as being a main stream person, versus those voters looking at trump and saying, he seems too extreme. >> gloria, how big a problem is it for democrats that there isn't a, you know, ron desantis like figure other than, you know, the front-runner, than joe biden, i mean, if biden runs obviously then that's not a problem. if he doesn't run how big of a deal is it? >> it's a problem. i think it's a real problem because there isn't any ground swell for anyone. you know in these situations, anderson, candidates come out of the woodwork. there are a lot of great national democrats out there. but so far we haven't heard people screaming oh, i'm going to challenge joe biden if he decides to run. there are a lot of whispers about it. obviously a lot of whispers about his age. that is clearly getting on his nerves. i can tell you it's getting on the nerves of a lot of people who work for him. there isn't anybody saying,
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like, you know, ted kennedy did with jimmy carter i'm going to go out there and i'm going to challenge him, because the fact of the matter is, that most rank and file democrats like joe biden and they believe he's done a lot and accomplished a lot and so that would be a hard record for them to run against. >> scott, do you think there is any chance joe biden would not have kamala harris as his running mate? >> no chance at all. i think first of all if joe biden wants to be his party's nominee he is going to be it regardless if there is softness in his numbers. he is a sitting president and he is going to be the democratic nominee. i think harris will be his running mate and republicans should plan for that. i think trump is just in a much weaker position because he is not the sitting president and we've already run him twice and lost the national popular vote twice. one argument biden has is, hey. i won the national popular vote. you know, that is nothing to sniff at in this day and age. i really do think biden is pretty much a lock if he just says i'm running and i think
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trump is in a much weaker position vis-a-vis his own party because he has this track record of not getting more votes than a democrat. >> does it feel to you like donald trump is even actually running? he made this announcement like a month ago and then other than had lunch with anti-semites and, you know, various disreputable characters, hasn't really done anything. it isn't like he is out building houses for habitat for humanity. i mean, he is not doing anything >> i wouldn't hold your breath for that one. i think, look. we're still actually pretty far out. why he decided to announce when he announced, a lot of people have different theories about that. but i think that if you even think about his campaign last time, i mean, it mostly was him getting, you know, free media doing his events and he is not going to get that right now. and he's probably not going to get it even down the road. and so he didn't have a big campaign and all the reports are he wants to have an even smaller campaign than he had last time.
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so i think this doesn't really surprise me. he didn't, like i said, there wasn't a lot of substance with the campaign the last time around and i think we're so early out that he -- we're probably not going to see a lot from him. >> thank you. appreciate it. to our southern border ahead where there is already a new massive influx of migrants as a policy that allowed officials to quickly turn many away is be the to end. what the biden administration is doing to prepare for that if they can and a close look at the reality on the ground now. [narrator] why is aaron happy? well, carvana has tens of thousands of cars under $20,000. so aaron's folks could help hk him up with a new rid we'll drive you hay at carvana.
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migrant crossings at our southern border are already at record levels and the crisis may be about to get much worse. according to a homeland security intelligence memo obtained by cnn the biden administration says the end of the covid era policy next week that helped control migration will likely increase flows immediately. projections of as many as 14,000 crossings per day if title 42 as it is known is left to expire. that is approximately double the number of border encounters now. the white house says it is, quote, doing what we need to do to prepare for a surge but it is already under way in places like el paso where shelters and bus
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stations are overwhelmed. cnn's ed lavanderaa has more. >> reporter: it is a frigid el paso night and john martin is coordinating an outreach team trying to figure out where newly arrived migrants have been released on the city's downtown streets. >> they're working with new arrivals that came in within the past hour. >> there is a lot of confusion right now. >> to a great extent i'll probably get myself into trouble. confusion is an under statement. >> reporter: martin helps run a homeless shelter program in el paso. three of the shelters are open to migrants. this family welcome center can fit about 80 people but in recent days they've taken in as many as 125 per night. >> the concern we have is at some point you just simply run out of physical space. and we don't want to be in a position to say no, but i think the reality is very close. >> reporter: in recent days the el paso area has seen a major wave of migrants crossing into the united states. >> the average number of
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migrants arriving here in el paso has been about 2500 today and because of that many people here, city leaders in el paso are concerned about what this could look like if title 42 is lifted next week. the public health policy known as title 42 used during the pandemic to remove some 2.5 million migrants from the u.s. is set to expire next week. for many migrants the talk of title 42 isn't on their minds. this couple left nicaragua six weeks ago with their 9-year-old girl. >> he said they came. they were unaware of title 42 and that it could be lifted. they want to come and work a couple years and go back home. >> reporter: the family is headed to georgia to await immigration court proceedings but el paso leaders say the humanitarian safety net that has long existed in this border city is stretched too thin already.
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>> we need people to step up. we need to stop pointing fingers. we need to work together and make sure we keep folks that are passing through our neighborhoods safe and also our community safe as well. >> ed, it is extraordinary how collapsed our immigration system is and there is no resolution in sight here. i mean, if title 42, which was a trump era policy continued by the biden administration, when the courts are forcing it to end if it comes to an end, that at least forced, allowed the government to force people back to mexico. what happens? >> reporter: the clock is ticking, anderson. title 42 is essentially a public health policy. it is not an immigration policy. and as the clock ticks toward next week, this is the scene here in downtown el paso that is already playing out. people on the streets, many of
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the shelters filled past capacity. many of the people here either will be sleeping on the street, or they're waiting for a bus that will be leaving in the middle of the night. this is the concern that so many people across this city are concerned about, that everything will just be overwhelmed to such a degree that scenes like this will be playing out, creating just a humanitarian disaster, anderson. >> ed lavandera, appreciate it. despite pledge of free speech, twitter suspended the account of the account tracking elon musk's flight.. from paying your people fromom anywhere to supporting your talent everywhere, we use data driven insights to design hr solutions and services to help businesses of all size work smarter today. so, they can have more success tomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to another ♪ i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.
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seems like it hasn't been a quiet day at twitter since elon musk took control. today the account that tracked musk's private jet has been suspended. it's a strange story that has
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been taking a lot of turns today. first the back story from donie o'sullivan. >> i'm jack sweeney, and i'm a student at the university of central florida. >> the data i receive is the identifier, the altitude, latitude, longitude. >> reporter: jack sweeney set up elon bot, all using publicly available information. >> why did you decide to set up this account? >> i was a fan of elon. he does some pretty cool stuff with spacex and twitter. it gives you another view that a lot of people don't know about where that person's going and might give you clues into what new business is going on. >> the account tracked up more than a half a million followers. jack says last year, the billionaire asked him to shut down it down. >> i was about to go to sleep. i remember telling my roommate, hey, elon musk just direct
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messaged me. >> what did the message say? >> it said, can you take this down? it's a security risk. >> reporter: it showed the billionaire was curious, even impressed, with jack's coding skills, asking, how are you able to track using a bot? >> i didn't really feel like taking it down because it meant a lot to me and it still does. >> reporter: elon said, i do not like the idea of being shot by a nut case and offered jack $5,000 to shut it down. >> i asked for $50,000 or a tesla, and said thinking about it. >> reporter: musk didn't take him up on the offer. soon after elon bought twitter, he tweeted, my commitment to free speech extends even to the account following my plane. he tweeted that about a month ago. clearly he doesn't feel that way anymore. >> yeah, it's complete opposite of what he said. >> reporter: on wednesday morning, jack woke up to news that his elon jet account had
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been suspended from twitter. and in the afternoon, twitter shut down his personal account. >> i literally had just talked about how the account is the canary in the coal mine. it shows he can continue to do the what the last people at twitter did and they can bend the rules however way they want for whoever they want. >> reporter: elon has his billions, but jack has his grandmother phyllis. >> what do you think of your grandson going up against the world's richest man? >> well, i don't know. because i'm a grand ma, kind of scary. >> you got a genius on your hand there is? >> even when he was two, he was a genius. he was always interested in going in the garage, and if anything was broke, he was there to fix it, put it together. and he could figure it out. >> reporter: jack says he still admires musk. if elon said, come work for me at tesla or twitter, would you take the job? >> oh, yeah, for sure.
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>> if elon musk is watching this, what do you have to say to him? >> he better not forget that i'm his grand ma. that's what i've got to say. >> i love her. >> i heard her in the background of the interview, and i was like, just bring her in. >> that is a very good interview move. what is the latest on all this? >> so, look, we have since learned actually is that muss skpk twitter changed twitter's policy over the past 24 hours to make the conditions such that this account goes against those policies so it could be suspended. and, look, i mean -- >> so, it's a new policy if it's a security risk for billionaires who have a private jet? >> essentially. if i had a private jet, i wouldn't like to be tracked in real time either. and there are, of course, some real concerns of his safety, his family's safety. >> sure. >> but for this free speech absolutist, and when we talk about speech that might cause harm, we've seen him the past few weeks tear up the rulebook
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against covid misinformation and vaccine misinformation on the platform, but we've seen him replatform a neo-nazi and white supremacist. for this to be the issue, for this to be the speech -- which, by the way, this is all publicly available information. for this to be the speech he wants to restrict more than others, it is of course extremely self-serving. >> just a moment, more on those tornados across the southeast, that according to a louisiana official we spoke with, have already killed at least three in that state. nstitute, using advanced analytics and the best financial exexpertise of our firm to develop advice thatat is tested and tailored. we help p you navigate tax policy, the art world, impact investing, real estate properties, cryptocurrency and beyond. where there's a trend, we're ahead of it. where there's a gap we bridge it. where there's your moment, we help you grab it. the face of millions of germs