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>> good evening we. start a night with breaking news. confirmed tornado touched down in new orleans and other interior saint bernard parish leaving behind a trail of destruction for about two miles,
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according to local officials. at least one person is reported dead in st. charles parish, about 20 miles upriver from new orleans. you are seeing some of the damage now as we are seeing it. the mayor of louisiana across from new orleans calls it worse than hurricane ida, which hit last year. homes are collapsed, cars are turned over, and there are live wires everywhere. i talked to her in a moment. more than 40 tornadoes have been reported the last 20 days across texas, oklahoma, louisiana, and mississippi. so jennifer, talk a little more about the timing of these tornadoes tonight and what we should expect. >> this has been unreal. this is something we started to see yesterday morning across the dallas fort worth area, went through northwest louisiana last night, enough finally making it to southeast louisiana. this has been a very slow-moving system. as you mentioned, we have seen numerous tornado reports we've. had over 40 since yesterday, and a handful of those right around the new orleans area. i think it will be tomorrow
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morning when the sun comes up, we will finally see the scope of the devastation there. luckily tonight, though, they are finally in the clear. >> the storms are ongoing. what is the biggest threat right? now the >> biggest threat right now is basically southern mississippi on into alabama, you can see these hot pink boxes, those are tornado warnings, tornadoes could be in progress in these areas so people are urged to get into their safe spots. these tornadoes are going to be just as severe going through the overnight hours into tomorrow morning is they are right now, so that's very important to note is people going to sleep you have to have a way to get warnings because the storms have just left a path of destruction far and wide across multiple states. as we go into tomorrow morning, you can see the timing of this through atlanta, by thursday morning and then the southeast, mid-atlantic, is going to get a lot of the rain. by the time it gets to these areas, it will be weakening some, but i want to stress, tonight through tomorrow morning, these storms are going to be very potent and have the capability of producing tornadoes.
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>> appreciate it, thanks so much. i want to turn now to lieutenant governor of louisiana, i appreciate you joining us. what are you hearing from officials from across the state right now? >> there are still assessing it, but there has been two deaths in caddo parish, one in city charles, many injuries. the latest assessment is about 50 homes destroyed, but they're still getting two areas. one of these tornadoes actually started in gretna, one to parts of new orleans, jumped the river into st. bernard. it left destruction the whole way and across the mississippi river. >> and our their rescue operations going on, are you still trying to assess the damage? >> the sheriffs and all the rescue people are out trying to get powerlines off the streets, and would -- to shelter that have lost their homes are move into our state parks in those areas, so people have places to stay come like tomorrow, as they get back and
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clean up their home tonight. >> you have any sense of how many people may be without power tonight? >> right now, the latest estimates are over 40, 000, but that's because they've got power back on in some areas that lost it earlier, but this one went through all 64 parishes. 15 tornadoes at least have touched down, that's the latest report. in north louisiana all the way down to south louisiana, so it was widespread. >> do you think you are through the worst of it now? >> yes, it's past now. we were lucky this hurricane season, louisiana was spared. this storm did not spare a us at all and touched every part of the state. >> lieutenant governor billy nungesser, always good to talk you. i appreciate it. >> thank you my friend. >> you take care. joining me now the mayor of -- and chief of police, arthur lawson. mayor, what are you seeing right now in your parish?
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>> we have seen catastrophic destruction from both ends of the city starting from the municipality right next to us, jefferson parish, all the way to new orleans, through th e entire city, one strip through the entire city. >> wow, mayor, i understand later you said it looks worse than hurricane ida which hit the area last year. can you explain to people what that means in terms of damage? >> in hurricane ida, we had a lot of roof damage, severe roof damage and some structures, but this has blazed a trail of total destruction, as i said, probably over a mile, entire lines of our city on the north side of the expressway of our city, close to the river, we are about eight blocks off the mississippi, where it struck and the trail that it blazed, so we're estimating somewhere right under 5000 structures, based on just the first preview. of course, it's nighttime now,
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and the police is here, wanted to talk a little bit about security in the city, but it is significant. >> chief lawson from the law enforcement, who are you seeing, what are you concerned about most? >> our biggest concern right now, we have enormous amount of parlance, hundreds of structures, there are damaged, roofs off buildings, collapsed buildings, buildings and homes moved off of slabs. our biggest concern now is putting out light plans to try to control traffic and those who want to sightsee. we have not had any problems with any type of looting or anything like that. it's basically been getting people back to safety. we've had some people who were in structures that we've had to get out. we've had some individuals that we had to bring to the hospital with our ems service, but that is our biggest concern right now, the safety and making the
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environment safe for people, so tomorrow, they can get around to check their property and see what type of damage they have. i believe tomorrow, when daylight comes, we will see a lot more damage than what we are seeing now. >> chief, that's the important point, folks right now, because not as come, and some people are in their homes, they don't have a sense, you don't have a sense of the total extent of damage is at this point, is that right? >> no, we don't. we have a large area through the city that has damage, where the tornado has touched down, skipped, touched back down, ran for a good ways. as i said, we have a lot of homes, a lot of structured that are really damaged. some, you can't tell, a lot of two story homes and businesses and residences, in the old section of gretna. you can assess the damage it because of the darkness.
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>> mayor, what is your message to people tonight? >> our message is, please, stay in, stay at home safely for those that do not have any damage. people kind of riding around trying to do their own assessment is not safe at this time. we have gas leaks across the city that the fire companies are dealing with, and they are doing assessments relative to those type of things, so it's critical that we just have people understand how important it is to stay at home. there is a shelter that has been set up, and there is a group for our emergency numbers for residents has been televised. if they need assistance, to please reach out to our emergency numbers so we can meet their needs as quickly as possible, and then tomorrow, it's about recovery, first thing in the morning. >> mayor belinda constant and chief lawson, i appreciate your time tonight, and our thoughts are with you and the community and all those impacted by the storms. we appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> there's much more ahead
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tonight. it has been ten years since one of america's darkest days, the massacre at sandy hook elementary school. in a moment, four survivors that attack to share what they have faced in that last ten years and how it has changed their community and this country. plus a new homeland security intelligence memo obtained by cnn with concerning predictions of a worsening crisis at the border, likely next week. we'll take you to our southern border, coming up. did i tell ya i got my car from carvana? oh! tens of thousands of mud-chugging options. it was just so easy to find a car within my budget. i'm just happy i was able to pick this baby. good on ya! we'll drive you happy at carvana.
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at about 9:30 a. m., a disturbed 20-year-old man arrived to sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. he had already murdered his mother and carried an ar-15 style rifle and two hand guns and shot his way past the school's new security system and would go on to murder six adults and 20 children before also killing himself. it was one of america's deadliest mass shootings, and the deadliest ever at a grade school, but tonight, before we drove into sandy hook's lasting influence and the country at large and the families of the victims and all the survivors that day, some of whom will hear from in a moment, i want to spend a few minutes remembering the children who should be planning for college or a career right now, and the staff who gave their lives to try to save them and their classmates. charlotte bacon was six years old, her family has remembered her as sweet, outgoing, full of energy, she loved school and she loved wearing dresses. daniel barton was seven, he played drums in a band with his brother and sister and went to the beach and making smores. rachel devine oh, she was 29. he was a behavioral therapists who worked with children within
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the autism spectrum. she did not know it but her best friend, her boyfriend, was going to propose to her on christmas eve. olivia angle was six. she led grace at her family's dinner table. she was in girl scouts, loved musicals, her family loved her sense of humor and say she always lit up a room. josephine guy just turned seven years old, she was just days before a murder was a birthday. she loved riding her bike and during the summer, she sold lemonade in the neighborhood. dylan hockley was also six. he and his family had more from england to connecticut two years earlier. he loved to read, and his family said he was also proud when he could read them any book. emily murphy was 52, a teacher of sandy hook. her husband was set that one and body was found, she was holding and dylan hockley in her arms. she also had four children. don lafree was 47, she was the principal a sandy hook elementary school. her friends describe her as nice and fun but also tough when she needed to be. she was principal after all. she left behind a husband, two
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daughters and stepdaughter's. madeleine -- was six, an avid leader, her family called her a born leader, sweet, unique, bright, determined and sparkly. catherine huber was six. her mom says she loved her pets and other animals and catherine wanted to be a caretaker at an animal sanctuary when she grew up. shea kowalski was seven, let baseball and cup scouts. neighbors said that she asks santa for his two front teeth back. jesse louis was also six. he loved matt and riding horses. fishing and play soccer with his that. jesse was working with is that to restore a 1984 tractor in time for the labor day parade. the plan was to throw candy from the back. anna marquez green was six too. her family called her the glue that held our family together, beautiful and vibrant, she said, she could sing in perfect pitch
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and style. james -- was six as well. her family said they loved the outdoors, sitting at the top of the lungs and he once asked how long do have to be to sing on a stage? respect donald was seven, she loved drawing, actually add a copy of the john she made. her parents said her dream was to live up to be a painter. she survived by her mom lynn, dad chris and brother jack. emily parker was six. she was learning portuguese when she was murdered. our family says she was also an exceptional artist. jack pinto was also six. he loved football, won a medal for participating in his first ever wrestling match shortly before he was murdered. the youngest of the victims, his antony shortly at the murders that he was rambunctious, i could get anything he wanted when he batted those long eyelashes and look at you with those big beautiful eyes. caroline -- was six years old as well. a big new york yankees fan, her brother told the paper that she was such a fan that she refused to go to fenway park when her family visited boston.
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jessica ricos was six and mad about horses. she asked santa that year for new cowboy boots and a cow girl had. if you are richmond was six as well. she loved horses, her trainer says she loved him so much, she would go when she trotted. lauren russo was a permanent substitute teacher, she was 30 years old. her mother said that lauren wanted to be a teacher from before she even went to kindergarten. mary sherlock was 56 in the school psychologists. and these as the gardener, she loved reading in the theater. she was married and had two daughters. victoria soto -- she moved her students away from the door when she heard gunfire. her family said she wanted to be a teacher since the age of three. benjamin wheeler was six, loved the beatles, loved soccer and swimming and recently performed at a piano recital. alison wild was six. she loved drawing and wanted to be in an artist. he was so generous he once offered her snacks to a
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stranger on the plane. 26 lives, and we remember them tonight ten years later. earlier, i sat and spoke with four people, students who survived the attack on sandy hook elementary school. audrey nichols, shill ray, serena -- jordan gomes was in fourth period. they're now between the ages of 17 and 19 and trying to live lives that have been forever scarred by that day. >> sahill, you remember that day. >> yeah, i do pretty vividly. >> you were in second grade? >> i was a second grader at the time, so i was in the classroom, and i remember we were all sitting on the carpet. she was doing her read aloud and all of a sudden, i heard a loud bang, a sound i'd never heard before, and i remember her looking very concerned. she wanted the door immediately and closed it and assured us all to the corner of the costume, away from the window
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and doorway. >> you were in second grade, he did not know what the bang was, i assume? >> no, i did not at all. at the time, i remember thinking that it sounded like a loud pan falling in the cafeteria, i was so confused, going through the motions and doing what the teacher told me. on the intercom, it turned on on the school and amplified everything that was going on. we heard screaming from the classrooms, just loud sounds in the hallways, and we were just sitting there. >> so you could hear other classrooms over the intercom? >> a definitely amplified the screams coming from hallways, and the sounds of the gunshots. over the intercom. >> you any of you guys remember anything? >> i have a selective memory of that day almost. i remember the shots, i don' t
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remember any sounds other than the shots. >> you are both in the same classroom? >> yeah, i remember being told that we could not go a certain way, we had to go out this one way. >> how about you, cyrena? >> yeah, i remember the police leading us out and getting escorted and seeing broken glass on the ground. when i looked towards my left, as we passed one of the hallways of the third and fourth graders. i just remember, that's where we came in through. >> you were in fourth grade? >> yeah, i had a little bit of a different experience than you guys because i was not actually in one of the classrooms. i was in the gym, which is one hallway over, and i was sitting with my class, about to do some normal gym activities for the day. we are actually doing rope climbing, which i was excited for. i remember the same thing that saahil said which is that i heard a loud bang, and it sounded like metal being dropped. at that point, my teacher and over to lock the door and also ushered us into the corner and was telling us to be very quiet,
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like don't speak to anyone, try to keep it down, and i remember also the loudspeakers. i think that was the thing that stuck out the most for me, as i got older, because of the things we heard over it. >> my dad died when i was ten years old. i always thought, i have divided my life between the person i was before my dad died and the person i was after, and a ten-year-old boy i was before and the child i was after. i became much more withdrawn and serious and introverted, and i heard you say something similar. can you talk about that a little bit? >> yes, i have often classified my life like that. it's like before 12:14, after 12:14, and sometimes, there are surreal moments, i don't know if you guys had those, it's like, oh my god, that actually happened. i can't believe i was in that school. so -- >> even to this day? >> even to this day sometimes, it's like a, whoa, moment. i guess what i am trying to say
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is, like, before 12:14, i was this happy child, always smiling. my mom was always like, she's such a happy child, and after 12:14, i was more withdrawn, i always got the, oh, you're so much mature for your age. that kind of stung in a certain way. >> do any of you us feel marked by that day in some way? >> absolutely. i think especially in terms of mental health, i know i struggled a lot, especially when i was younger with ptsd and anxiety. my parents would walk in on me having screaming fits, because i just could not come to terms with what had happened. i look at how i acted prior to that day, and not only just me, but my brother, my family and friends and entire community, and is just a stark before and after. like, i think it changed
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everybody forever. >> definitely. >> how about you? >> i think we all changed in some sort of way. i suffer from ptsd and anxiety, and sandy hook was a big factor. i used to suffer from nightmares and like night terrors, and i think that made me feel like my innocence was stolen, like my childhood. >> that's how it feels to you? >> and it's something like i would never get back. >> the nightmares were a big thing for me to, because i think so many kids, their nightmares are of monsters and demons and things that don't really exist, but we were facing a reality where those monsters and demons had kicked down our front door. it was real, it was impossible to escape. my parents and i did not know how to deal with it. >> how often do you think about it? do you think about what happened?
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is this something, a daily thing in your life? >> every day, i would say. just in passing thoughts. if i look at my phone and it is 12:14 p m, i will be like, 12:14. it's just inescapable. or if i see a green ribbon, even if it is not for sandy hook, because a lot of other causes had that similar sign, i'll think about it. or anytime there is anything on the news about a mass shooting, even if it is not at a school, i think about it, it's inescapable for me, anyways. >> it's something i think about daily, much like jordan said. even the simplest things can kind of, this flashing thought that crosses my mind, yeah. >> what kind of things? >> a chip bag, something as simple as that. >> balloon popping -- >> balloon popping is a big one for me. fireworks, i have these neighbors that set off fireworks every single holiday, and it's awful.
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>> i have been in touch with a number of families who lost children that they, and many of them have had to deal with this whole other horror of people who doubt the reality of what happened, spread made up stories and say terrible things about them. has that been something you followed? has that impacted your world at all? >> i heard of the conspiracy theories, and sandy hook did happen. i feel like my feelings and emotions and memories are being swept under the rug because people don't believe what we went through, but it did happen. >> since i started with my advocacy, i come face to face with a lot of these so-called truthers. they always want to say something to me. you know, they're not always violent. sometimes, they're rude. sometimes, they're yelling at me. sometimes, they're completely calm and don't really care about what i have to say. they are like, it did not happen, and you are a liar.
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>> you've had people actually say that to you? >> i've had people say a lot of very insensitive -- that's probably the most tame thing, being called a liar. there is crisis actors, people just asking me all these crazy questions like, what it was like to be acting all that? if fake gunshots hurt? >> you think this has impacted an entire generation of young people? those who have grown up since columbine or even since sandy hook to now, do you think your generation has been shaped by the shootings? >> absolutely, i do. i do, i think kids everywhere are scared to an extent and wondering, what will happen, what will change? and i said this before, but i think people are wondering,
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will my community be next? as long as these events continue to show on the news, they need to be shown, but that also means that people will be afraid. >> yes, i agree with saahil, it's 100 percent affected our generation. the fact that we have gone through so many events like sandy hook, i don't think we have gone a single week this year without another shooting happening. and i really think that is heavily impacted, especially kids and how they look at going to school. i know there is kids who fear just loud noises in general because of everything that has happened in this generation, and i know i personally struggle with unannounced drills in school. i don't know about you guys. but like, if there is an
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unannounced lockdown drill, i go into panic mode. i am hiding in a corner, my palms are sweaty, and i am reliving it in my mind. >> and we will be right back, with a lot more. ho ho ho! not again... oh no... for the gifts you won't forget. happy holidays from mercedes-benz. lily! welcome to our third bark-ery. oh, i can tell business is going through the “woof”. but seriously we need a reliable way to help keep everyone connected from wherever we go. well at at&t we'll help you find the right wireless plan for you. so, you can stay connected to all your drivers
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the former president launch doesn't run at the white house, and the polls suggest that electors are tiring. after a brutal midterms for his chosen candidates, plus a series of headlines, more eager for a standard bearer. but not good news for president biden either because voters of all stripes as well. what shawn king. >> i know it's too early for many but consider this poll a baseline, and this clear conclusion. voters in both parties clear majorities are looking for somebody new. we ask republicans and republican-leaning and you want donald trump to be the nominee of the republican. or do you want a different candidate? 62%, more than 6:10 republican say give us somebody new plays, 38% donald trump won six in ten 59% of we would like a new candidate in 2020 44 into never
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quite say let's stick with the incumbent democrat we have. and so what, though, if trump is the nominee, would republicans vote for him? well, two thirds say yes. that is significant, though. doesn't mean this would stick for two years. but 32% republican say no, that leaves an opening for democrats to get those votes. but two thirds say as. on this question, anderson, joe biden's fare better. 66 for trump, 78% for democrats say but if joe biden is our nominee for 2024 we will vote to reelect. nearly antidemocratic say that in 22% say no. so what is about your trajectory? how are you and in the air compared to how you began the year? let's start with the president. president biden is in better shape at. the beginning the leader he was a 45%. then in july he dipped to 25%. here in december, 40% of democrats say he should be the nominee. not as strong as he was to open the year, but stronger than he was in the summertime. it is the flip side when you look at this from the trump question. at the beginning of 2022, 50% of republicans say we want
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donald trump is our nominee. that drop to 44% in july. it is now down to 38%. the trajectory for trump is heading in the wrong direction. president biden has stabilized some. now if your name is someone besides trump, you are in strong shape in the republican primaries. it's a joke, but look at the poll. 32% never public and leaning voters say we want somebody besides trump. they're open minded as to how it should be, no doubt though, anderson if you look at this poll and other polling out there. florida governor ron desantis, if it's not trump, ron desantis in the strongest position at this is early day, about 30% of republican leading voters tehran desantis, nobody else. nobody else gets even close. almost not worth considering. mitt romney ted cruz ran before making, healy former south carolina governor transcend this acid or, all at 1%. so rhonda santa has a commanding position at this early stage, unless someone besides trump gets in the
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republican race. anderson? >> king, are perceptive from our chief political analysts and former clinton administration official and commentator scott jennings, former assistant to george w. bush. at the bottom line from the pole is a little appetite for 2020 rematch biden still that can obviously happen. >> i'll say. look, first we should point out that both of these men are very popular in their own party. and so the democrats still like joe biden, if he runs, and donald trump has a very strong base in the republican party, but the difference between the two parties, as john was just showing you, is that republicans feel like they have a solid alternative. that alternative is rhonda santas, but when you asked democrats if not joe biden then who, 72% of them said they had no particular favorite. so they don't know who to turn to their.
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not saying kamala harris, for example. they're kind of seeing maybe this person or maybe that person. so that is really good, actually, for joe biden, because the democrats are saying well, who else is they are out there that we would really be as enthusiastic about? the answer is, we don't know. >> scott, i know you think some of the changes among republicans on the support for the former president, which appears to be reflected in this poll, duties represents a permanent shift? . i do >> i think it's a continuing shift. i think you really continue to see this change. what's remarkable is that rhonda sentence hasn't had to do much of anything other than win reelection and convincing fashion. donald trump announced the campaign and has been out there talking on his own behalf, and it is getting worse and worse and worse while desantis is getting better and better. so the effort that trump is having to expand is not translating into support. the number that jumped out of me in the poll was 32% of republicans who said they didn't want to back trump if he were the nominee in 2024.
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i think a lot of those people would go home eventually, but it tells you everything you need to know about how weak trump would be as a election candidate. if democrats pick off just a few republicans in key states like, i don't know, georgia, which is exactly what happened in the senate race, it makes it easy for a democrat to win in a purple state, so, you see, cracks, among republicans, but you also see the plain truth. if we nominate trump they nominate biden, republicans are gonna lose if the. republicans nominate someone you, we have a much better chance. >> kirsten, do you agree with that? if republicans nominated, whether it's desantis or somebody knew, that they would have a better chance to win than the democrats would be running joe biden in that case, presumably? >> yeah. i think so. and i think the other thing that was in the polls show that was how biden and trump are both perceived, where you have the vast majority of voters saying they see biden is being a pretty mainstream person and
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the vast majority of people seeing donald trump as being, as having very extreme views, and it's because the voters that you are going to have to get, you're gonna get your base voters. i do think people who are not enthusiastic right now and it becomes a head to head match. you have a biden versus trump. democrats are going to show up for that. that will be the motivator. they will get more enthusiastic about biden. and so i think the fact that you can see that biden is so much more acceptable to more moderate voters, to more independent voters in terms of people just seeing him as being a mainstream person versus those voters looking at trump and saying he seemed to extreme. >> gloria, how big a problem is it for democrats that there isn't a rhonda sanchez-like figure other than joe biden? if biden runs, obviously, that's not a problem, but if he doesn't run, how big a deal is? it >> it's a problem.
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i think it's a real problem because there isn't any groundswell for anyone. and you know in these situations, anderson, candidates come out of the woodwork. there are a lot of great national democrats out there, but so far we haven't heard people screaming oh i'm going to challenge joe biden if he decides to run. there are a lot of whispers about, it obviously, a lot of whispers about his age, and that's clearly getting on his nerves. i can tell you what's getting on the nerves of a lot of people who work for him. but there isn't anybody saying ted kennedy did with jimmy carter, i'm gonna go out there and i'm going to challenge him, because the fact of the matter is, that most rank and file democrats like joe biden and they believe he has done a lot and accomplished a lot, and so that would be a hard record for them to run against. >> scott, do you think there's any chance that joe biden would not have kamala harris as his running mate? >> no chance at all. first of all, i think of joe biden wants to be his party's nominee he's going to be, regardless of the softness of
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numbers, he's the sitting president and he's gonna be the democratic nominee. i think harris will be his running mate. i think republicans should plan for that. i think trump is in a much weaker position because he's not the sitting president, and we've already run him twice and lost the national popular vote twice, and one argument biden has is that he won the national popular vote. that's nothing to sniff at in this day and age. i really do think biden is pretty much a lock if you just as i'm running, and i think trump is in a much weaker position vis-à-vis his own party because he has his track record of not getting more votes than a democrat. >> kirsten, does it feel to you like donald trump is actually running? he made this announcement a month ago and then other than had lunch with antisemites and various disreputable characters, hasn't really done anything. it's not like he's out building houses for habitat humanity. he's not doing anything. >> i wouldn't hold your breath for that one. look, we're still actually pretty far out.
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why he decided to announce when he announced, lots of people have different theories about that. but i think that we could even think about his campaign last time. it mostly was him getting free media doing his events and he's not going to get that right now. and he's probably not going to get even down the road. he didn't have a big campaign, and all the reports are he wants to have a smaller campaign than he had last time. i think that the substance of the campaign. we're so early out that we're probably not gonna see a lot. >> thank you all. appreciate it. to our southern border head, with this already a massive influx influx of migrants. many turning away is about to end with the biden ministration's doing to try to prepare for that if they can. a close look at the reality on the ground now.
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>> la crosse exhibit southern border already record levels,
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and the crisis is about to get much worse. including two homeland security memo tame by cnn the biden ministration says the end of covid era policy will likely which ends next week will likely -- 14,000 crossings per day of title 42 as it's known as left to expire. it's approximately doubled the number of border encounters now the white house. says it is quote, doing what we need to do to prepare for a surge, but it's already underway in places like el paso where the stations are overwhelmed. ed lavender has more. >> we get the women over to the rescuers. >> it's a frigid el paso night in john martin is coordinating an outreach team trying to figure out where newly-arrived migrants kev been released on the city's downtown streets >> they're working with the new arrivals that came in just within the last hour. >> so there's a lot of confusion right now. >> to a great extent are probably get myself into trouble. i think confusion is an
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understatement. >> he runs a shelter program in el paso. three of its shelters are open to migrants. his family welcome center can fit about 80 people, but in recent days they have taken in as many as 125 per night. >> the concern that we have is that at some point you simply run out of physical space. we don't want to be in a position to stay say no, but the reality is very close. >> in recent days the el paso area has seen a major wave of migrants crossing into the united states. the average number of migrants arriving here in el paso has been about 2500 a day, and because of that many people here, city leaders in el paso, are concerned about what this could look like if title 42 is lifted next week. >> public health policy known as title 42, which was used during the pandemic to remove some 2. 5 million migrants from the u.s., is set to expire next week. but for many migrants, the talk
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of title 42 isn't on their minds. this couple left nicaragua six weeks ago with your nine year old girl. >> [speaking non-english] >> translator: he said they came for title 42, and they said title 42 is lifted. they want to work here a couple years and then go back to nicaragua. >> they're waiting for proceedings but el paso leaders say the humanitarian safety net that has long existed in this border city is stretched too thin already. >> we need people to step up. we need to stop pointing fingers. we need to work together. we need to collaborate, and we need to make sure that we keep folks that are passing through our neighborhood safe while keeping your communities safe. >> ed lavandera joins us now. and, it's extraordinary how collapsed our immigration system is and there's no resolution in sight here. if title 42, a trump era policy which was continued by the biden administration, the courts and forcing it to end if
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it comes to an end that at least would allow the government to force people back to mexico, what happens? >> the clock is ticking. there are legal challenges making their way through the court right now, which could bring all of this to a halt. but title 42 is essentially a public health policy. it is not an immigration policy. as the clock ticks toward next week this is the scene here in downtown el paso that has already played out. people on the streets, many of the shelters, filled past capacity, many of the people here will be sleeping on the street or waiting for a bus that will be leaving in the middle of the night, and this is the concern that so many people in the city and across border communities are concerned about, that everything will just be overwhelmed to such a degree that scenes like this will be played out, creating a humanitarian disaster.
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>> seems like there hasn't been a quiet day at twitter since billionaire owner elon musk assumed control. a popular twitter account tracking his private jet has been suspended, after after
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musk touted his commitment to respeak. very strange story to heal out of turns today, but first, the back story from cnn's -- >> i'm jack sweeney and i'm a student at the university of central florida and i'm 20. >> and now he's on the radar of the world's richest man. >> the data i receive is the identifier, the altitude, the latitude and longitude. >> jack sweeney uses his computer programming skills to set elonjet, a twitter bot the track the location of elon musk's private plane all, using publicly available information. >> why did you decide to set up this account? >> i was a fan of elon. he does some cool stuff with spacex and twitter. it gives you just another view that a lot of people don't know about, where that person is going and might give you clues as to what new business is going on. >> the account racked up more than half 1 million followers, but musk wasn't too happy, and jack says last year the billionaire asked him to shut
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elonjet down. >> i was about to go to sleep, and i was in a normal college dorm in and i remember telling my roommate, hey, elon musk just direct messaged me. >> and what did the message say? >> it said can you take this down it's a security risk? >> a screenshot of the message from musk show the billionaire was curious even impressed with jacks coding skills, asking him, how are you able to track using a bot? >> i didn't really feel like taking it down because it meant a lot to me, and still. that's >> according to the messages, elon said i don't love the idea of being shot by a nutcase, and offered jack $5,000 to shut the account down. >> then i would basically ask for 50,000 and a tesla and he said i'm thinking about it. >> must didn't take him up on the offer. fast forward to this november. soon after you long bought twitter, he tweeted, my commitment to free speak extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk. now he tweeted that about a month ago. clearly he doesn't feel that way anymore. >> yeah. complete opposite of what he said. >> on wednesday morning jack up
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to news that his elonjet account had been suspended from twitter, and then twitter shut down his personal account. >> i had just talked about how the account was like the canary in the coal mine. it just shows that he can continue to do what the last people did and they can bend the rules however which way they want for whoever they want. >> elon might have his billions, but jack has at least one powerful ally in his corner. >> hello, again. >> his grandmother, phyllis. what do you think of your grandson going up against the world's richest man? >> i don't know. to me, because i'm a grandma, kind of scary. >> you got a genius on your hands? >> oh my gosh, even when he was two he was a genius. he was always interested in going in the garage, and if anything was broke, he was there to fix it, put it together, and he could figure it out. >> despite shutting down his accounts, jack says he still admires musk. >> if elon said, hey, come work
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for me at tesla or twitter, would you take the job? >> oh yeah, for sure. >> if elon musk is watching this, what's your message to him? >> he better not forget that i'm his grandma. that's what i got to say. >> [laughter] i love her. >> i heard her in the background of the interview and i was like, this is great let's bring her in. >> a very good interview move. so what is the latest? >> what we have learned since that musk and twitter actually changed twitter's policy over the past 24 hours to make the conditions such that the account was against those policies so it could be suspended. look -- >> so it's a new policy if it's a security risk for a billionaires on a private jet? >> essentially. if i had a private jet i would like to be tracked in realtime either. i think there are, of course real concerns about his safety, his family's safety, but for this free speech absolutist
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when we talk about potential speech that might cause harm, we have seen him tear up the rulebook against covid misinformation and vaccine misinformation and re-platform a prominent neo-nazi and white supremacist. so for this to be the issue that he's most animated about for this speech which by the way is all publicly available information, for this to be the speech that he wants to restrict more than another, it is of course extremely self -serving. >> appreciate it. thank you. just a little bit more on the tornadoes across the southeast. according to louisiana fischel beach spoke with had already killed at least three in that state. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual!!! what does it do, bud? it customizes our home insurance so we only pay for what we need! and what did you get, mike? i got a bike. ♪