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rulebook against covid misinformation and vaccine misinformation and re-platform a prominent neo-nazi and white supremacist. so for this to be the issue that he's most animated about for this speech which by the way is all publicly available information, for this to be the speech that he wants to restrict more than another, it is of course extremely self -serving. >> appreciate it. thank you. just a little bit more on the tornadoes across the southeast. according to louisiana fischel beach spoke with had already killed at least three in that state. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual!!! what does it do, bud? it customizes our home insurance so we only pay for what we need! and what did you get, mike? i got a bike. ♪
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♪ there's only one mass general brigham. >> welcome back. we're now on breaking news that three people are dead across louisiana with tornadoes turned the state. one in new orleans. at least one person is reported dead after a tornado hit her home in st. charles parish, about 20 miles upriver from the city. several were injuries in lake st. charles and jefferson parish are without power. rescue efforts go on throughout night. the mayor of new iberia, across from new orleans, calls this worse than hurricane ida. dozens of hurricanes have battered the south the last few days. i want to get the latest from jennifer gray. what's the latest impact to new orleans? >> luckily these storms are moving out of new orleans. they have clear the area, but this is a look at the storms as they came through just with incredible fury as you mentioned tornadoes touched down around the area, a lot of damage and when the sun comes up tomorrow we'll see the scope
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of what happens. over 40 tornadoes reported since yesterday. started in dallas fort worth area. and still going strong. we expect this to last through the overnight hours to tonight and into tomorrow morning. right now we do have some watch boxes still out, no tornado warnings to speak of but we do plan to see more throughout the overnight hours. it is quite possible. this will continue to head to the east. dump tremendous amounts of rain, very gusty winds, large hail, again the possibility of tornadoes throughout the overnight into tomorrow, and this is 4:30 a. m. thursday morning, also we have a wintry side to this with blizzard conditions ongoing that we have been talking about since yesterday. >> appreciate. and now jefferson parish president cynthia leishman, thank you for joining us. what are you seeing now in your parish? how are things in your parish?
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hey. it's anderson cooper. can you hear me? >> i can hear you now. >> how are things going in your parish? >> it's a rough day the tornado has hit. it touched down several parts of our parish and then without an hour to half we lost daylight. so right now we're getting ready to do our second assessment. bringing out light poles to light up the block, but i'm telling you right now not far from a nine by five block area that tornado touched down many times, so there is a lot of destruction, but luckily, unfortunately so far we do not have any fatalities. we have been very blessed about that. >> because darkness fell so quickly, you haven't been able to, kind of access the true extent of the damage or survey everything? you haven't been able to get to
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everywhere you'd like to with this stage, have you? >> we were able to initially go out and do an initial assessment. obviously the search and rescue trying to identify and make sure nobody is caught. some neighbors were checking on other neighbors. we did rescue some people. but now, as i said, we're going through our second assessment and look at the damage, talk to more people and we have teams going out. we will be working through the night. as i said, we will bring out additional resources for light up the blocks. whole area is dark out here i'm. in a hanger right now but the whole area is dark. so it's difficult to do the work, but it's theory in that we are used to having hurricanes. here it's the same. what people want to help themselves. people are already in the dark trying to clean their houses. it's a very sad that we're dealing with this in december when we thought we got through the hurricane season okay. >> this isn't normal for december, is it? >> this is not normal for us.
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the tornadoes are not normal for us. we had one hit last year and this one seemed like it took the same path, but we are not known to be a tornado area, but what we say is, these new weather power patterns we are seeing in the last couple of years are very different. for us to have a tornado, this is really different for us. >> what's your message to folks in jefferson parish and the surrounding areas right now? >> i'm sorry? >> what's your message to folks in jefferson parish and surrounding areas? >> for tomorrow we don't want people to come sites. either we have a lot of light poles down, a very dangerous situation. we are grateful, anderson, that we did not have loss of life. it's hard to look people in the
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eye, and i know that look well from hurricanes. they're just so shaken up, but it's a different cry from someone who has lost a loved one. i think god i wasn't hearing that. i'm seeing different kind of shock. they're gonna have put their lives back together just before christmas and but it could be so much worse. so we are very blessed that we are not getting worse. >> i appreciate your time tonight. cynthia lee shang. thank you. good luck to you tomorrow and everybody there in jefferson parish. i want to go to mr. richard, president of iberian west of last baton rouge. the pictures have been disturbing. what is the latest you can tell us about the situation there? >> we had some devastation, anderson, here in iberia perish, our hospital got substantial damage. we have subdivisions pretty well messed up. the hospital where i am standing now, of course, i'm in the parking lot for employees and the parking lot was full of people, excuse, me full of cars, and so the cars have been for the most part towed away.
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the hospital itself, where the doctors offices are, and we're going to be down for a minute at the hospital. the areas that was hit was near a quarter of an area along the same division among the southport subdivision, we have mobile homes, clubs, houses just completely destroyed, families all torn apart, and it's so funny because when you look at where the tornado hit, it's total devastation the house right next to it could be standing nicely. so it's a lot of pain but, the good thing about this here is we didn't have any deaths at all. we had people who got hurt but no deaths. >> that's great news. i'm told we have video of a tornado touching down in new iberia. i just want to play that. to actually see it like this,
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what time was the worst of it, do you know? >> i would say somewhere along 11, around 11:30, something like that, is when it really got serious around here. it came near avery island, with i'm sure you don't know where is, but if you've heard of tabasco, that's where we make tabasco. it came around avery island from the delta area coming in to the port of iberia and it came into the city of new iberia. it was serious. we had two tornadoes that trump touched down and so we've got some serious damage here, so it's going to take a while before people, before things will be back to normal for real. >> at this point, it got dark pretty quick. do you feel you have a sense of the full extent of the damage? at least you know what the
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damage is. >> we know pretty much what the damage that we have. tomorrow, i was trying to the ceo earlier, and that's where we're gonna have some serious longevity problems. of course, everyone has got damage, but when you're in a hospital or get to deal with all these, i don't know if you can see behind me, but that's the area where you have all of the office buildings for the doctors. so this area, all of this area back here, the windows are out, we are thinking it's going to be at least some seven months so we have some problems here. but listen, today i was with catholic services as well as a national guard, i spoke to the governor to three times today. we're looking to help the people. everything here is about safety for the people we represent. so we want to do that. the governors all in.
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as a matter fact, one more than likely be communicating with him a little later tonight. >> larry -- i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> i appreciate all what you're doing and we'll check back in with you. wish you the best there in new iberia. still to come tonight, cnn special report and be am eastern standard sandy hook forever memory, it's the tenth anniversary of the attack at sandy hook. we will show you more of my conversation with four young people who were little kids back then, second grade in and fourth grade, ten years ago. specifically we'll talk about what they went through, i went through their minds when they first heard about the mass shooting at robb elementary and uvalde, texas, and the impact it had on them. later doctor sanjay gupta will talk about the death of grant wahl and what we all need to know about aortic and aneurysms an whether the symptoms can be confused for bronchitis. did i tell ya i got my car from carvana? oh! tens of
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it's been ten years, hard to believe since the murder of 26 children and staff at sandy hook elementary school. earlier, i last hour, you show the conversation i had with four swabs about what they can remember from the day of the attack. they were in second grade one was in the fourth grade at the time. and how the attack than, ten years ago, still affects them in their lives today. it's inescapable, one of them said. audrey nic goals, serena oakham, second grain, jordan gomes was in -- now between the ages of 17 and 19. we want to show you more of that and what way through their minds when they heard about the murder of my children and teachers in uvalde texas this year. >> every time there's another mass shooting at a school, -- do you follow them? do you pay attention? to try not to pay attention? >> i still remember the exact time i found out about uvalde. i had just gotten off of a night shift at work. it was like nine p. m..
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i was in the work parking lot, and my phone had blown up. it was all, oh my god, are you okay, i heard what happened. i personally trying to stay off the news as much as i can because of stuff like this but as i was saying, my phone had blown up, and i just kind of knew. >> when you saw that, what did you think? >> i think mostly it was, oh my god it has happened again. and it makes me so deeply sad that even uvalde was nearly a decade after sandy hook, even a decade after, not much has changed. and i wanted to hug the uvalde survivors. i wanted to wrap my arms around them and i wish i could tell them, like, you will get
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through this. >> whenever you see stories on the news about uvalde, parkland, or more school shootings, i'm always reminded of the memories of that day, and i can think about is my peers, who have seen and still have to go to therapy. i fortunately don't have to myself, but seen that my peers and on the news, that part really hurts me. >> was uvalde -- ? >> it hit close to home. my aunt texted me and said, sending lots of love, i know today is especially hard. and i woke up from nap that day and open my phone and then it open instagram and that's when i saw that uvalde happened. it was like this is so similar to sandy hook. and all the memories and everything just came back up. >> jordan, i understand -- where you at an event at the white house? >> yes. over the summer. i was very lucky to attend an event that was held to
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celebrate the passage of the bipartisan safer communities act. my biggest memory from that day is talking with a couple of my friends, just taking it all in, feeling happy and accomplished. somebody sort of spun me around and pointed over my shoulder and was like, there she is, that's the girl, she's from uvalde. it was this young girl, probably eight or nine, and it short, dark hair, huge smile. i don't want to say it ruined the day for me, because it didn't, in truth, but looking at her just so many emotions came up inside of me. i felt sick. i felt like i wanted to cry. i wanted to go over to her to say something. but i didn't because i was looking at her and she was smiling and laughing. i felt like that day she was happy. i didn't want to ruin that for her. i didn't want to dredge up these memories that were so fresh. but to see her i just felt like i was looking at myself.
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i just felt so disappointed and just so upset, because i felt like nothing has changed. we had allowed this to happen again. everything that i had been doing, my own gun violence prevention activism for years at that point, i felt like i had accomplished so much until that point. and i looked at her and i thought what i actually done? because they're another one of me right there. another one of all of my peers. i just felt like we had failed her in a way and failed her classmates. i took some strange responsibility for it. i know i shouldn't have, but i did. >> you are talking about seeing the student from uvalde at the white house if you want to go over and talk to her. what would you say to somebody who, what do somebody had said to you back then? or what would you say to somebody now who is just gone through it? >> when i saw her i definitely wanted very similar to what you
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said, that's what made me like oh my gosh i felt that to. i'm not the only one. to go to her and hug her -- and just tell her that she was so brave and that everything would be okay and then i promised it would be okay. but i was living breathing proof that you can go through an event like this and be okay someday. >> do you believe things will change? do you believe this problem of mass shootings will improve? >> i think so. i have hope. >> what gives you hope? >> just that there's more people like me out there fighting to get things done. >> we wouldn't be here without hope. there is me and serena, we both partake in masks prevention activism, and i know you guys have done similar work us well. we wouldn't be doing this if there wasn't an idea that things could be different one day. and i think that's the end
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goal. and it just involves changing the conversation. >> joined by my colleague, alisyn camerota anchoring special report after this broadcast about the murders at sandy hook elementary school. it's called sandy hook, forever remembered. it airs at eight p.m. eastern. it's still can't believe it's been ten years. what stood out to you as you reported this story? >> great conversation with those kids. and they give me hope. that generation actually gives me hope, because they, i think, have a different frame of reference than we do for her to move forward. but in terms of my reporting for this special, these parents are extraordinary. they are extraordinary human beings because even in the depths of grief ten years ago they started to harness that grief for action and move forward. the grief didn't go away. they were able to do it simultaneously. what they were accomplishing was incredible. things people said could never be done. they sued the gun of
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manufacturer. every lawyer went to said it was impossible. they did it. they sued alex jones in just one a billion dollars. so, not only that, but they've passed all sorts of legislation at the state level. but first, one talking to them we did have to go back to that awful day and what they all remember ten years ago. so here's that. >> it has been ten years. >> there's a shooting inside or school. i literally dropped to the ground. >> i thought, oh gosh, this isn't good. >> i was just running into our family van in just flying. >> since a lone gunman entered sandy hook elementary school and killed 20 children and six adults. >> it was so horrific, what we heard, my colleagues, children begging for their lives in the entire time thinking there were gonna be next. >> and a stunned nation was left grieving. >> i wish through the sandy hook with change everything. how could you watch that and
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not decide to do something about it. >> tonight -- >> don't ever think this couldn't be staged. >> we take you inside the victims families battle against harassment and disinformation. >> it was the hardest thing i have had to do since my son's murder. >> their fight for change. >> how did a kid have his hands on an ar-15 assault rifle with a high capacity magazine? >> we have really her to generation of kids by not being able to find ways forward. and they're vowed to stop similar tragedies. >> it's way i've chosen to honor daniel, to prevent other families from having to endure a life of pain due to preventable violence. >> i want to make it clear that not everything tonight is devastating. there's also a hopeful empowering messages because of how much they have done. one of the things they have done is stop 11 school shootings around the country because of the training that
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they do by going into schools and teaching them the signs before they happen. so you will hear how they do it tonight. i think there is a note of hope from all these parents. >> it's extraordinary. alisyn camerota, i look forward to it, it's about 30 minutes from now. sandy hook, forever remembered, here's a ten p am eastern. just ahead, tonight, we'll be joined by the family of ken deland and have a conversation with melissa bell, he spoke with ken deland's host mother. a comprehensive wealth plan for your full financial picture. with the right balance of risk and reward. so you can enjoy more of...this. this is the planning effect. can a button work wonders in the bedroom? no, no! not the fun button, the other button. sorry. marcia has sleep apnea and her struggles with cpap had me sleeping in the guest room. now she's got inspire. it's a sleep apnea treatment that works inside her body with the click of a remote.
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>> and the latest on a missing american student france, -- father and stepmother of ken deland are desperate for information. they've not heard from him of more than two weeks. we'll speak with both of them and. don't french investigators say that he reportedly arrived in france unprepared and was having difficulty making friends. they also seems he seems to have left grenoble, the city where he was staying, quote, voluntarily. cnn's melissa bell is in that part of southeastern france and spoke with ken deland's host mother. >> social media posts give little away. just images of a young american enjoying his exchange program in france. but kenny vanished 15 years ago without a trace. after leaving the home of the house whether he was staying
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with. she explains that she has only spoken once to kenny's mother and never to his father, but if we speak exclusively to cnn without the camera. >> with a host mother told us was that only exchanged and she had had at her home, kenny was the one who seemed to be having the most trouble getting in and settling down to life here in grenoble. else is a bit of course since he disappeared she had been inundating him with messages to which he hadn't responded and she added that she has been reassured by the sighting of him about an hour south of here in a sports shop because she said it confirmed the possibility and her hope that in fact he had gone and cut off communications voluntarily. it was taken on december 3rd. kenny spent just over $8 before vanishing altogether according to his family, leaving behind only facebook pictures of his life in france from powers, so the united university of grenoble alps.
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the last time kenny dylan turned up for lessons here at the university was stepping out was november 28th. by the 29th when he failed to turn up a missing persons report was filed and it emerged that he had left his host family that morning, taking a packed lunch, his wallet and his phone. kenny has not been heard from. since >> we shared can expect around campus in the hopes that someone may recognize him. when we find kenny's friends they prefer not to speak on camera but tell us that kenny had friends that were exchange students and some that were local. we care about him and we want him to come back safely. >> that contradict what french authorities have said, that kenny struggle to make friends. >> what i'm telling you is, he makes friends and he's easy to talk to, like me. if you don't know my son then it's tough for you to make some statements, tumbled statement. >> one of the things that kenny's friends told us is that he may have been stressed about the upcoming exams. is that something that you
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recognize? >> he's in a foreign country and he's a pretty upbeat kid. you know? damian so it is possible, sure. he was anxious. he wanted to do good, he wanted to prove he could get good grades, even on a trip of a lifetime. >> kenny de land junior chronicled his journey to france in august. his father still hopes he will be able to pick him up as planned on saturday. >> and melissa bell joins us now. is there any update on the french authorities investigation? >> no, none, anderson. we keep reaching out but for the time being we are told it's an ongoing investigation and they don't have updates. all we have is that statement from monday confirming that a missing persons investigation is underway. but also that they are working assumption is that he may have left voluntarily pointing to a state of mind, pointing that cctv footage from a few days after he disappeared. what we did find really surprising today at the host mother's house was when we learned that she had only
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spoken to investigators over the phone and she never actually came to the apartment so, kenny stuff is all still in his bedroom and his computer still there and it has not been checked, and it's and when you go to the university there's no missing person signs up anywhere. what we have heard from everyone we spoke to farmers host mother to his friends is that they still hope that he will come back and get a staffing get on that plane. that may be wishful thinking. on the part of the authorities it does seem to be that there is a sort of lack of urgency that is frankly one of the idea that they think he may simply have chosen to go off the grid, anderson. >> cnn's -- joining me now is kenny dylan's father, you saw melissa's story. him the land -- i appreciate -- i'm sure it's under these circumstances. obviously, i hope this all just is a misunderstanding and works out. first of all, our both doing tonight? >> i couldn't agree more with melissa statement about the lack of urgency. that's what it feels like from our end.
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i talk to the fbi today, and i asked the fbi agent, you know, do you feel like there's any progress, what's the status? and i don't get anywhere. it just feels like the wind has gone out of the sale, as far as what's been done to find my son. we the more time it gets by, more worried we've become. and thank god for, investigative journalism like what melissa is doing, and she's boots on the ground right at the university, and what the house mother this type of empathetic reporting is what helps bring things to the surface and gets awareness out there. and just is very frustrating for aren't. >> when was the last time that you heard from him? because i know on december 3rd he was seen on that cctv
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footage, going into a sporting goods store. and we are sure that some in the footage, right? >> i'm positive. >> absolutely. >> so one was last time you heard from him, because that was september 3rd. >> so 11:27 was the last correspondence we had through whatsapp. we were just talking back and forth, and i was asking him how he was doing, he's got some new its new, and after that it is fun kind of silent, and he is also speaking with jennifer. -- he also spoke with his mom carolina day. but we do know, is the essence characteristic for kenny the like to go hiking, pack a bag and take a hike. but for him to not reach out with no correspondence, this is very uncharacteristic of my son,
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and this is what creates all the worry, that any parent could ever feel. and as i said, as time goes by, you know, it makes you worry even more. what's been done? is there still resources in the french police to look for him, are they looking for him? what's going on? >> his room hasn't been checks -- >> did you hear that there are no posters up? >> his room has an object -- or his computer, that is computer still there. is there anybody you know over there? is there anyone who can go and to access his computer? >> that, i'm not sure. i know the liaison had met with the host mom, and she had checked his room for what
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belongs were left in his room. to find out if what was left indicated he was coming back. i'm not investigator, but if i was to look at what belongs were, left especially the college laptop, it feels as though he's gonna come back. and so, it just makes me worry even more, because it looks to mean it appears like he was gonna come, back and so where izzy, how has he not reached out to us? and if in fact is nothing is sense of urgency. on their part, where do we stand -- i can't understand. >> i'm so sorry we are talking under these circumstances. i hope we get some information. soon we will continue to follow it and continue to look into it on the ground as best we can as
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well. so, can, really appreciated, and jennifer, thank you so much. >> anderson, i have to give props to those investigative journalists, you have, they by far have made the most leaps and bounds towards the goal, a finding kenny. so props go to them. and my hat goes off to them. >> we continue to follow, and i hope he shows up, and this is all been a misunderstanding and you can tell him he is a knucklehead or something. let's hope he shows up quickly, thank you so much, we continue to be in touch. still ahead tonight, we have new details on the death of a prominent sports journalist, grant wahl, who collapsed and died last week while covering the world cup in qatar, a lot to i'll talk to sanjay gupta about the cause of his death, next. [narrator] why is aaron happy? well, carvana has tens of thousands of cars under $20,000.
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>> the wife of prominent sports journalist grant wahl spoke out today following her husband's death while he collapsed while
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covering the world cup in qatar. speaking to cbs this morning, dr. celine gounder a cbs contributor, reveals the cause of his death. >> so he had an autopsy done here in new york by the new york city madeleine's medical examiners office and it showed that he had an aortic aneurysm the ruptured. >> so aorta, that's the big blood vessel that comes out are part sort of the trunk of all the blood vessels and an aneurysm is a ballooning of the blood vessel wall. and it's just one of these things that had likely been likely brewing for years and for whatever reason it happened at this point in time. >> he said the outpouring of tributes to wall, brings her comfort that it was loved by many. joining me now is doctor sanjay gupta, so how common are aortic aneurysms? >> well, they're not that common, thankfully. the aorta, as she was, saying it's the big blood vessels that comes out of your heart and supplies all these other parts of your body.
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and it's pretty sizeable blood vessel. so there's different places along the blood vessel where you can have this mannerism let me show you have this image here when you look at where she was describing grants and arisen was it was right at where the aorta leaves the heart and that's where that ballooning sort of occurs and the walls of that became thin as a result that has a much of the on the right there anderson when the wall becomes thin you have blood coming out of it with pretty good velocity we can rupture working dissect and that seems to be what it happened here. let me show you quickly if i can on this model, anderson, the heart, this is the aorta here and the big red blood vessel, this is the area that it ballooned. and that's right in your chest cavity, around your lungs, around your trachea, things like that. as you can have also has a different symptoms as a result
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of that blue ballooning as well. as far south come, in 2019, think around 10, 000, 9900 or so people who died from news aortic aneurysm ruptures. that's in a year. mostly in men, things like smoke and increase the risk for a certain type of aneurysms. but it's rare, but catastrophic. >> in the days leading up to his death, grant wahl said he was being treated for bronchitis. other symptoms similar? or could one have led to the other? >> no, we don't know for sure that he didn't have bronchitis. but it's possible that just that aneurysm alone could cause those types of symptoms. again, if you like the model, and just sort of think, this is where the award, is your trachea sitting right there, for example. people may feel awfulness in the chest, they have difficulty breathing. there's a whole list of symptoms that people might, have that'll seem unusual. we'll have back, gain some like, that cough, scratchy voice, shortness of breath.
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just pain in the chest. >> if you don't know or even think about the sort of thing, you wouldn't go to thoracic aneurysm, i'd issue here. so it can be pretty vague. >> one thing i can tell, you anderson, typically these things occur to people over the age of 65. but one of the first stories i've covered here on cnn, john richer, remember that, back in 2003, he died, they thought he had a heart attack, but in fact he with 54 at the time and he also had an aortic and any resume, that had dissected, that's what led to his death. that's unusual, typically over the age of 60, five but obviously can happen younger as well. >> doctor sanjay gupta, appreciate. it ukraine's capital coming under attack again, by the russians, but then a remarkable feat by ukraine's air defenses, shooting down drones, the details next.
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where she wants to predawn attack on ukraine's capital kyiv -- cranes presents a lewinsky says his country's -- 13 iranian made drones. authorities say the drones were
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already aimed at the battered electrical grid. this comes as the biden ministration finalizing plans to set the -- with still need to be approved and join us now is cnn military analyst and retired army general general hertling. general hertling, it's good to have you on. what do you make of the patriots? i think you and i have talked about this awhile back and you had talked about just the sheer cost of each patriot missile is incredibly huge and it's a really complex machine to operate. >> it is, anderson. and that's what is troubling and it's also -- the announcement was made of think a little bit premature, the u.s. was considering it, and they're begin building the package. i think one of the things biden had told the secretary, for reapprove, this you have to show me the training plan. and what kind of targets they will be firing on. as we, talked the calls to be trying those muscles that you see firing on the screener, now it's between three and $5 million. each, muscle not the, launcher of the missile. boo tree new drove --
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the russians and into the territory, and that they block from iran also $20,000. so you don't always want to do the payoff, and evaluate targeting these kinds of things, because it is saving lives. when you quickly run up a price tag on these patriot missiles, and you have to first train the soldiers on using it and repairing it. i, think i hope the expectation is that those missile symptoms are gonna be in ukraine next, week because they're not. they require months of training, by think it's a good first step to prevent any kind of further russian incursion, later on. but these are used against strategic bombers, and cruise missiles, not 20,000 dollar drones. >> this is the future of warfare gonna be drawn warfare? it's $5,000 for a drone i can estimate electrical systems, there's potential for a limited
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amount of drones, isn't there? >> well, there is, and you've heard of things like drones forms, that were used in the novato care about war a couple of years ago. but what you have to do is develop antitrust techniques. ukraine is struggling to find everything that they have in their inventory, to use them against russian attacks. and it keeps changing. so, this is what our pentagon goes through when it does an analysis, of what kind of things will be a u.s. military face, so we don't have these last-ditch efforts of trying to put things together. drones have been on the battlefield for a long time, anderson. it's just the way russia using, them they're not swarms, but they are certainly using them against infrastructure. and even if new weapon systems are sent to ukraine, it's going to be very difficult to find where to place them. that's the other issue.
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don't just put them like offense, up to capture anything that comes in to your 1500-mile territory. and they have to be precisely laid, so they hit the targets, and defend key territory. what russia is doing is hitting everything, so it's very difficult to defend point targets. >> joe hertling, appreciate your time tonight. >> cnn special report, sandy hook remembered is next, right after a short break.
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