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very good thursday morning, i'm jim sciutto. >> and i'm erica hill. we're following several stories at this hour starting with the devastating storms across the south. at least three people are dead after a wave of tornados tore through louisiana and the southeast. thousands more dealing with the damage and also that loss of electricity. over the past two days nearly 50 tornados have been reported across the region. those span from texas all the way east to florida. hear how one louisiana resident described what one of those

storms was like. >> we got inside and five minutes later all hell broke loose. it sounds like a bomb went off. >> also this morning, cnn will give you a firsthand look at mexico's side of the southern border. this as a growing number of migrants flowing into the u.s. is boosting concerns about what will happen next week when what is known as title 42 expires. it could have big effects. plus new cnn polling sheds light on what parties want. they are hoping for a leader not named biden or trump. we begin though in louisiana. where nick valencia has been talking to folks there, assessing the damage. nick, tell us how bad it is and what you're seeing and i'm curious how folks are responding to it all. >> reporter: well we want to introduce you to one of the residents here. denise krend, who was home at the time those struck.

how are you this morning. >> as well as could be expected. feeling blessed. >> you're lucky to be alived. this tornado killed three people in the state. do you think about that? >> yes. i heard of one death before all of the lights went out so i was very concerned. but we kept up with the weather all day. because our local channel 6 and -- meteorologist is my hero. >> meteorologists are often heroes. tell what sts like to live there this. >> it is frightening but she kept everybody abreast so well. like gave them time to get out of way, and followed the instructions on channel 4, i mean channel 6. morgan, she's the meteorologist. >> chute out to the meteorologists here. and when i met you this morning, you had seen the damage but this morning really seeing. what are seeing when you look behind me.

>> i'm seeing a close call. this house went through and we are blessed. we -- everything with this house is external. nothing happened inside. >> and i know you said inside you were with your autistic son. >> we just followed instructions that they kept -- they kept us abreast of everything. >> we really appreciate it. and we know you're still without power and you want that back on and the power company said that it is. we hopeful you get that addressed and we have a few more seconds here but look at this house, it is off its foundation and we spoke to some vit surveyors here who had just finished reid building after hurricane ida. this home right here, they were about to start moving in their furniture, only for them to suffer this extensive damage here. the surveyors from city of

gretna are going door-to-door, to try to put a monetary value on this. they don't have one just yet, at this time. but going through the neighborhood to see what is left of it. jim. >> absolutely. and nick, appreciate the reporting. and thank denise for her time with us as well. for a closer look across the region. we're joined by a sheriff. good afternoon to us with us this morning. update where things stand this morning and if you're concerned anybody that is unaccounted for. >> not at this time. we did secondary searches with the fire department last night and everybody is accounted for. for everybody that lost their house, we have several properties that were completely destroy include our properties in evan asboro, we have several millions of dollars of damage to deal with.

>> that but that is property damage, we could be replaced but luckily we didn't have loss of life here in the immediate area but we have had numerous homes that are completely destroyed so we're just dealing with that and making sure they are takingen c -- taken care of. with the power poles down, probably have about 10,000 people without power in this area so we'll get to a better place by the end of the day. right now, of course, it is storms and we have blue skies, but the last report with den niece, a shout out who put a smile on my face this morning, she's a local icon this morning. to mention that name, it is a good smile because it is been a long time. >> we spoke to another official last hour that said similar, and we're showing more images ever destruction now. >> that is the property. >> well there you go. you know it better than anybody. but that -- >> those pictures, that is my range right there.

>> gosh, i hear you. >> that is the roof of my -- and the bureau. >> when you see that, i'm sure when people watch that, they're amazed that people came away safe from this. and i wonder what you attribute that to? is it warnings in advance. >> the schools closed at noon which prompted the officials to close the government buildings so i closed the offices yesterday at noon but the police were still in the street. but i would have had 16 people in the academy and we let them go home at 2:00 yesterday and to hours later the entire roof is off. so luckily we made that call and sometimes you make that call and you don't need it and yesterday we were glad we made it and we would have had all of our employees leaving around that time. letting them go home early and get to their house and saved some lives here yesterday. >> well, listen, it looks like

you you have some work to do but we're glad that everybody so far is safe and accounted for. we piswish you the best of the luck. >> thank you very much. y'all have a great day. overnight nine house republicans breaking from the party to avoid a government shutdown. and if passed it gives negotiators a little more time. now until december 23rd. that is when they would need to finalized a broader full year government funding deal. >> you look at those republicans, many of them are folks leaving office. manu raju is on capitol hill with more. so tell us what this particular bill does and then what we should expect next before the holidays? >> reporter: well this would fund the government until the entire year but i should caution nobody has seen the details because they are still being drafted. there is only an agreement among the top appropriators in the house and the senate that they will come -- that they have reached a general agreement on

the top line numbers. but even there is still some questions about how much it will cost. there is nsh expectation of about $1.7 trillion but there is also pushback within the republican party and that is what the gop will have to navigate and the democrats in the days ahead. richard shelby, who drafted this measure, he's a retiring member of the senate appropriations committee. he's come under sharp criticism from kevin mccarthy who said that he should not have cut this deal and punted it into the new congress when republicans will take control of the house. and just moments ago, i asked shelby about that criticism. >> the majority leader in the house, everybody has got their own opinion. he's running for speaker and we understand that. and he's got to put a coalition of republicans together. but we all know it is the best thing to do is fund the government when you're here. whether you're retiring or got

five more years, the problem remains the same. so, i think it is irrational to shut down the government always. it is the wrong message that the american people don't want that. a few people say, well, we will go to the edge of the earth and we'll make people do so, i think it is best to try to work it out. you have to give and take. a lot of things are in the bill, or will be that i don't like and i wouldn't vote for. but military, veterans, safety nets for people and everything, let's do it. >> reporter: but there is just a lot of frustrations among republicans that they were going to be jammed on this measure. they're not going to get much time to review it. it will be unveiled sometime next week with only a couple of days to pass it before what is expected to be the new deadline, next friday to fund the government or risk a shutdown, guys.

>> manu raju, we know you'll be watching. thank you so much. also new this morning, jill biden, now fully on board, with plans for her husband to run for re-election in 2024. she's is all in which is a major shift from her position three months earlier. >> we're learning that ron klain said the president is expected to make a decision on his 2024 bid shortly after the holidays. that is coming soon. david gurg enjoins us now to discuss. >> good to talk to you. >> as you know, the d.c. conventional wiz doom before the midterms was that biden would not run or face significant opposition within the party and perhaps within his own white house, jill biden. that has now been flipped on its head. is this the reality that this is biden's nomination for the democratic party to lose. >> yes. i think the midterm elections

turn out to be a real game-changers on both the democratic and the republican side. there is no question that having jill biden swing behind the continuation of a biden administration, a biden presidency is major within the white house. because she's been reluctant, it's been hard in many ways, it's been hard on her. but i think with the midterms they realize we have a real shot at winning this, the presidency. and she regarded as the best judge of his health and if she's this far over as reporting would suggest that she's as enthusiastic as she is because she thinks he's in pretty good shape and she's got a ring-side seat. >> she does. some of the reporting is they felt the wind was at his back at this point. she has a ring side seat but also a major player. it is the first lady running as

well. what is fascinating there is a shift. there is definitely more support among democrats for president biden to seek a second term as the nominee. but according to a new poll, we're still looking at large numbers, nearly 60% who when asked if biden should be the nominee, say no. earlier this year, you even said to us here on cnn, you didn't think he should be citing at that time his age. so what do they do with all of these numbers? >> i think they wait and see how things evolve. if we could get some things done as president when everybody comes back in january, february, then we'll have a better shot at it. but right now, you've got both parties, as you reported just a moment ago, and both parties, they're are grows numbers now who want somebody other than biden or trump. it is a lot easier to take down trump. that seems to have broken.

and their dissent coming up the inside track on that. so it is a lot easier to displace trump than it is to displace biden. there are people on the democratic side who would refer and think we have a better chance of winning with a younger candidate. but as long as the bidens want to run it is very hard with the dynamics to displace them. >> it is hard for -- exactly, for any incumbent. it is hard to push back against them. so for folks watching at home, is there -- and by the way, this could all change and it is different eight weeks ago, but with your wisdom having advised most presidents, is it likely to be a repeat of the 2020 election, trump versus biden. >> he think the most unlikely outcome is biden versus desantis or versus some other third party. i think donald trump is bleeding badly. and could be displaced.

now, let's say if you got an eight person, ten-person field on the republican side and trump could hold 30%, he could conceivably win the nomination with that because the rest of the voting will all be split up among so many other players. that is the best outcome for him. but this is still swinging. the momentum is against trump right now. it is favoring some outside candidate, desantis or somebody else. >> david gurgen, good to see you. thank you. >> good to see you all. take care. coming up next, cnn just crossed to the mexican side of the southern border as the biden administration is warning of a another spike in the number of migrants crossing into the u.s. we're going to take you right there, next. plus the parents of one of the university of virginia football players who was shot and killed during a class trip is now speaking out for the first time. we're also hearing from one of the players who survived that

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the biden administration is warning of a likely unflux of migrants at southern border next week when that trump era border policy known as title 42 is set to expire. the rule was put in place during pandemic allowing officials to turn away migrants under a public health authority. >> thousands have been staying just across the border in

juarez, mexico, raising concerns that many will try to cross when title 42 ends next week. thousands more. and ed lavendera is there on the border this morning. do you see groups of people piling up there in preparation for this? >> reporter: yeah, we could give you a great advantage point this morning jim and erica. we're in juarez, mexico, and just looking across the rio grande, that is el paso and you see the border wall and that is the scene that is playing out here and has been playing out here in the el paso area for almost a week now. we're seeing thousands of people, some estimates have been around 2500 a day crossing in here to the el paso area. and as we've been reporting this is coming days before the possible expiration of title 42 which is this public health rule that has -- was used during the trump administration and during the biden administration to keep

out a lot of migrants. perhaps 2.5 million or so. this is the scene here. and what might strike people how orderly it is. people are able to walk across this river, it is very narrow, about 30 feet or so and they have had been standing in this line in frigid temperatures and covered in blankets and they've been spending the morning cleaning up blank ets and debri left by other migrants over the course of the last week. and when they get here to the e edge, you could see the barbed wire fence there are a number of border patrol agents and they're called up in some groups at a time, two or three people and then they're taken to a border patrol processing facility which is several hundred yards away and that is where they begin the process of determining whether or not they could stay in the u.s. to go through the immigration process or if they would be immediately expelled

and this scene has been -- >> oops. it looks like our signal from south of the border there. but did you hear ed finishing up a thought there on the numbers of folks piling up there waiting for that policy to expire. we'll stay on top of the story. >> absolutely. we're also hearing this morning from one of the uva football players that survived that shooting that killed three of his teammates. michael holland said he locked eyes with the shooter. >> he's lucky to be alive. a bullet missed his spine by a fraction of an inch. others not so lucky. the loss of deshawn perry and level davis jr. and he's dealing with both physical and emotional pain. >> i lost a brother that day. i loved lavel, with all of my heart, loved devin with all of my heart. be deshaun, it was different with him. it was -- man, that was my

brother. >> well deshaun perry's parents spoke this morning. about just the devastating loss of their son. here is cnn's leyla santiago. >> erica and jim, the parents of deshaun perry are calling for an end to gun violence, shotgun violence that claimed the life of their son last month. he's one of the three football players who died after a gunman shot them and injured two others while returning from a class trip back to the campus. perry is described as the fend that always lifted you, that had that amazing smile, the teammate who was hard-working. here is how his mom described him. >> that is who he was. that is who he is. everywhere he went, he wanted to leave a little bit of his life. >> everything just stopped. for me. and just to hear her cry, it was just another cry, it wasn't the same cry, as losing a child.

>> reporter: and how his father described getting the phone call that confirmed he had lost his son. speaking to nbc news for the first time in a month since perry's death. now they still have a lot of questions and quite frankly the investigation continues. so there are still a lot of questions out there. there is no motive yet to be established. there is an investigation from the virginia state police as well as the attorney general of the state that has now called an independent counsel to review what led up to this. how this university handled it, to find out if this is could have been prevented, all answers that the family is calling for as they also call for the football community, and the younger generation to take action to end this gun violence. erica, jim. >> just so awful. and understandably that family needs some of those answers. leyla santiago, thank you for that. still to come here, another

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this morning investors may be rattled by what they heard from jerome powell as he outlines his expectations for a barely growing economy over the next year signaling his aim to continue these rate increases. you see the markets there. aiming to get inflation all the way back down, as they said, down to 2%. we're at 7% now. figure it all out. christine romans joining us now. here is the dilemma. folks want to hear from the fed, they're going to slow down interest rate raises and they want to see the economy is slowing because the rates are working but not too much that it is dipping into a recession. so we don't know where it is all going to land. but what does we learn from the latest figures both interest rates, jobs data and retail and et cetera. >> you're illustrating the sweet spot they are trying to get to with all of the conflicting and complicated head winds and tail winds. let's start with retail sales. these are november retail sales,

not adjusted for inflation and they were the weakest win abouta year. a couple of things happening here. auto sales were down. a lot of different factors because of that. again, these are not inflation adjusted so all of those markdowns that you saw for the holiday weekend, holiday shopping weekend, that means that could dampen, even as people are buying a lot of stuff, it could mean that the retail sales number is dampened here and we're seeing people are shifting how they spend. they focus on the important stuff first and shifting more toward experiences and away from goods. so that is all at play here. and at the same time, you get the jobless claims figures and they fell by 20,000. so 211 first time unemployment claims. before the pandemic this would have an unbelievably amazing number about how strong the job market is. so this is something to watch here. the fed is predicting by next year you'll have a 4.6% unemployment rate so the fred fed is saying you'll see layoffs

rising and that will take some of the heat out of wages and heat out of the labor market that is spinning off all of this inflation. so the fed has raised interest rates 7 times this year. and it is still a big rate hike but at smo point the feeling is in 2023, the u.s. economy will start to slow and more gradually move out of this too hot post pandemic period that we've been living there. >> we'll be watching for it and you'll be guiding us the whole way. thank you. the pandemic forces a shake-up in how we all work and priorities. a lot of folks working from home. but you also have another category. young men choosing not to work at all. >> cnn's vanessa yurkevich with more on the numbers, taking a closer look at who is stepping out of the work force and what they're choosing to do instead. >> good morning, winston.

let's start the day. >> reporter: it is a typical day in the snitzler household. winston is up and parents david and allison are getting ready for work. winston is fed and there is some play and then the morning good-byes. >> bye-bye. >> reporter: tlhey're off to work. allison, a family physician and david an insurance underwriter. now an at-home dad. >> carrying for win stance and taking care of the house, all of that comes first. >> reporter: last year they made a significant life change. >> we made that decision. to have me stay home. >> reporter: david quit his job to take care of winston full time so allison could continue her career. >> we're happy with the roles that we're in. it is phenomenal. >> reporter: and in recent months, more men ages 30 to 44 have been dropping out of the work force according to dating from the bureau of labor statistics. the labor force participation is

lower than it was pre-pandemic. >> i don't think it is a secret that many of us rethought our work-life balance and what are we doing and who is raising the kids and how do we want our family to work. >> reporter: and more women in recent months, ages 30 to 44 are participating in the labor force. and at a higher rate than pre-pandemic. according to labor department data. and they're moving into more male dominated industries. >> the fears of a she session turns out largely to be unfounded. women are returning to the labor market it is becoming increasingly common to see women have project management roles within construction. >> women like oma. >> i knew i wants to work. >> reporter: she joined the construction industry two years ago as a project engineer. today women make up just 14% of the construction industry. but it is the highest on record.

>> i think it was definitely intimidating. my only knowledge of the construction industry was that it was pretty heavy and male dominated. but the more that i started working in the industry and the more people i came into contact with, i think i realized pretty quickly on that there is a place for everyone in construction. >> do you see the construction industry as where you want to build your career? >> definitely. >> reporter: early next year, the snitzlers will welcome baby number two. another boy. but that doesn't mean david is closing the door on rejoining the work force one day. >> i won't say that i'm out of the work force 100%. retired, what have you. but for the time being,le we wa to give our second infant son the same thing we gave to our first and that is a parent who is able to give them 100%. >> reporter: now david's decision to step out of the work force to take care of his son actually represents a small

percentage of why men are leaving. economists say that he historically the main reason why men leave the work force is because they are disabled or struggles with mental health or they are in cars rated. but just as women are stepping into more male dominated industries, we need more men to step into female dominated industries. we're seeing women leaving teaching jobs and women leaving nursing jobs. and we need more men to move into those roles, jim and erica. but it really just shows how the pandemic has not only changed the ways in which americans want to work, but it is also clahang the ways in which the work they will do. it is challenging gender roles in this labor force right now, guys. >> it is interesting to see if those are long-term changes. janessa, thank you so much. well, the special counsel overseeing several investigations of donald trump

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scheduled for monday. so we'll be watching for that. so how about the doj investigation. it is moving forward. jack smith has just issued a sp subpoena to local officials in allegheny county, pennsylvania. in all seven of the battlegrounds states targeted by former president trump and allies in their attempts to overturn the 2020 election. joining us now, defense attorney and former federal prosecutor shan wu. >> good to see you. >> so they talked to a lot of folks at the national level and now going to the state level. what do the subpoenas tell you about the scope of the investigation but also crucially the timing of their eventually decision on this? >> well the scope indicates that they're doing what they need to do in the scope. i mean, in order to take a real look at what evidence there is of a conspiracy, they need to check with the states for two reasons. first, obviously, if trump or his allies were in touch with state officials trying to interfere, that is critical.

but also you could learn from those state officials was there really anything wrong with the results? the answer is probably no. and if they were telling the trump folks that, that goes to their intent. they knew there was nothing wrong and they were making these fake challenges. >> so, shan, as we look as where we stand with the seven states targeted, it is only georgia that has opened a criminal case into those efforts. does that impact the special counsel investigation? >> i don't think it impacted theirs. they are going to look at all of the states, particularly the swing state where's they focused their efforts on. it is kind of interesting, i was working on a piece for this for just security, there are potential state charges in the other states just like georgia for things like fraud or interference with the election or pretending to be a public official for the state fake electors as we call them. but it is very common for a federal and the state

investigation to work together. so this could actually lead to a broader parallel investigation going on with both states as well as the federal doj investigation. >> let's talking time here. we are one move into trump's 2024 campaign already. we hear that biden may make a decision after the holidays but this race will begin in earnest in the new year. what is the time pressure, if any, on the special counsel, to act or not to act, given that political time line. in your view, is he under some pressure to decide by x date. >> i think realistically he is. but he like a.g. garland would say this will push anything in haste here. so the problem for them certainly is when it gets really close to the presidential election, they're going to run into this whole 60-day rule and worried about being accused of being partisan with it. but in terms of the face of the

investigation, what they're doing, i think they're going to proceed just as they've been proceeding. >> as they continue proceeding. but there has been, as you noted, garland doesn't seem to do anything perhaps as quickly as some people would like. but whether we look at what is happening with the special counsel, i feel like the discussion this week is about how quickly the special counsel is moving. >> yes. absolutely. and it is a little bit hard to read into that. it could be some of these actions were teed up before he got on board. but they waited for him to come on board to give that fuller insulation to doj. but certainly he does not appear to be the kind of person who will gum up the works. there are some folks coming into a position like this would do the equivalent of grandstanding that saying they're reviewing it but that is a good sign. >> if you're talking about the 60-day rule, that is like two years out for this decision here. goodness gracious, shan wu,

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were surprised that number was low and we could get into the reasons in a minutes. let's look at the number that you just said. ome 14% of cancers were caught by screening. that means that the other ones were caught when someone had symptoms and then went in to get checked. at that point someone is much further along. you obviously in most cases way prefer to have it caught earlier. let's take a look at the four main cancers where there are screenings available. breast cancer, only 61% of breast cancers were caught by screenings. that is actually lower than i thought. i thought mammography would catch more that. cervical, 62%, rectal cancer, 45% and lung cancer 3%. now, as for why that 14% number, why is this true, why isn't that higher? there is a couple of reasons. one, we don't have screenings for a lot of cancers. you saw the four that we do. but there is unfortunately quite a few that we don't. and so we need to get better

diagnostic tests out there. the other problem is that often people don't get screening. they don't know about it. they are scared to have it and scared it is going to hurt or by a problem. they don't have access to screenings. there are a all sorts of reasons and that needs to be improved as well. erica and jim. >> and why is the number so long for lung cancer in particular? >> it is interesting, lung answer, the screening recommendations are a little bit trickier, jim. it depends on smoking history and whether you're smoking now and your age. so it is a little bit trickier for doctors to sort of look at all of that and then tell their patients and for patients to understand that. i think of all of the cancers, that is the one where the screening needs to be stepped up because it is easy. it is just a ct scan, it is quick and painless so it is unfortunate that that number is so low. >> yeah. elizabeth cohen, really appreciate it. a lot to choose on there. thank you. so something to do on sunday morning. the world cup final is set. a heavy weight showdown between

france and the powerhouse who knows a thing or two about football, argentina. the match-up cemented after the french knocked out morocco 2-nil. i was looking forward to more oko. >> and argentina is chasing another title and the france the first side to retain the world cup since brazil managed that feat 60 years ago. who are you rooting for. >> so we have a bet and i think you're going for france given your perfect french accent there. >> i got family. the family is in france. my son has his jersey ready to go and i have five euros in my wallet. >> so we're betting five you'ros in your wallet. >> five bucks in years. >> yes. just your five yoeuros and we'l see. >> jim loves a $5 bet.

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