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thousands of migrants waiting to get into the u.s.. officials say 2500 people are crossing over into el paso every day. and that number is expected to double next week when time runs out on a trump era pandemic policy known as title 42 which made it easier for officials to send asylum seekers back to mexico. and it's not just texas dealing with a mess at the border border. in arizona, take a look at this. the republican governors issued an executive order to use shipping containers to fill gaps in the border wall with mexico. as you can see there. now the justice department is suing that state to try to remove those containers. and one democratic mayor in denver, more than 600 miles away from that el paso mayor is calling for a state of emergency tonight to deal with the hundreds of immigrants who arrived in his city in just the past few days. joining us now is that denver mayor michael hancock. thanks for being with us. why is it a state of emergency
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in your city? >> alison, first of all glad to be with you. i issued the declaration of emergency earlier today because we have seen a steady stream really over the last six days we've seen over 472 people come to our city as we start to track the migrants after i activated our emergency our asians center. it's really starting to stress our systems and stress our financial condition in the city of denver. >> so denver can't absorb 472 people? what's the problem? >> that's just where we had the surge. that's just where we started counting because we operated emergency operation center. we have many more asylum seekers have come to our city in the last several months. the reality is that while we are trying to take care of those and by the way no this is a challenge of cities all over the country being in terms of our neighbors being in-house,
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and we're also trying to house those who come to our transportation station in the city of denver. we simply can't do both. it's stressing our system, it's stressing our shelters and we've had to open up two of our recreation centers, actually three, take them off line to our taxpaying citizens to help those who were coming to our city as migrants and asylum seekers as well as make public calls for assistance with our partners, our nonprofits, our faith keepers. it is stressing our system. it is a challenged time. but what we saw not a continued trickle, we saw a surge happen where we saw anywhere from 60 to 110 people show up and one time in one night, and that becomes a problem when we're trying to provide services for them. >> as you well know, there were some republican governors who are shipping migrants to other cities. do you know why there's been a surge in denver? >> i think a couple of things. one, we are learning from the migrants and asylum seekers
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themselves that they organize themselves from social media to come to a destination outside of their normal entry spot weather now real entry spot in el paso, texas. they decided to come to denver. but they also told us that there are some folks on the ground who suggested that they could come to denver. so they boarded buses to come to denver, they came in and we started seeing them come in droves. 60, 70 100 hundred intended to time. that becomes a little too much. >> yes understood. lastly, mayor very quickly do you consider what's happening at the border crisis. do you call it a crisis? >> bit of a crisis. i don't know anybody looks at that and say we don't have a problem. i made a call today to the federal government, really challenge them, said it's time. the situation occur way before, it's been going on far too long in america, where we don't have a sensible immigration policy. my call to them was again, mayors and cities are bearing the brunt of congress's
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inability to act. you continue to play politics and not do what's right in terms of sitting down negotiating a policy around immigration that make sense. once again, we have our cities all over this nation bear the burden. we need federal government to act to address this crisis at our border and make sure we have a policy that makes sense to those who were trying to come to the u.s., but also for those of us on the ground trying to make accommodations who want to come to this nation seeking freedom and opportunity. >> mayor hancock, thank you and thank you for perspective. >> thank you for having, we have a good day. >> also tonight, a federal judge ruling the biden administration cannot and the trump era remain-in mexico policy at least for now. the supreme court had given president biden to end the program. it's sent certain non mexican citizens who had to the u.s. back to mexico for processing. that has apparently changing. i want to bring in cnn chief
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law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller, also democratic congressman -- and former congressman joe walsh. congressman is this your fault, congress's fault? as the mayor said, why can't congress act? >> i agree with the mayor and as an immigrant i agree that we have not been able to come forward with calm -- crisis reform. but it's a crisis in the hemisphere. a crisis of democracy. most of the folks coming over are from nicaragua and venezuela, fleeing ruthless, thuggish regimes. see what's happening in peru right now. and you see the crisis, the environmental crisis in some countries that pushes people to look for some level of help. >> that's why it's getting worse. so why can't congress act? >> we should act and i'm not blaming one saturn other. we haven't found the will to do
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it. i think there's been sensible proposals that are being put at the table, and yet this issue has weaponized politically. during the elections it was used as a weapon to score points, to get votes, point fingers and, it's the wrong approach. i we have to deal with it sooner or later. >> alison, this is a broken system. it's been broken for a while. neither side wants to fix it -- >> because of political's leniency? so wait a minute you're really saying you're that cynical the democrats and republicans don't want this fixed because what they are dealing with in denver tonight? >> i say this as a former republican member. if you can demagogue this issue and scream and yell about this issue, you do well in republican politics. >> yes and what about democrats? they don't want to fix it? either >> we put forward real proposals. a simple work permit allison for five years with the ability
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to renew another five. years >> and why did that? pass >> dreamers, it's the simplest concept of all. no political will from the other side to get it done. >> i think democrats have been afraid of border security and republicans have been afraid of addressing the issue of dreamers so nothing has gotten done. >> think that makes sense. john obviously new york has that various issues. every cities having issues. it's not just the border, but they're really having issues at the border. >> this is a multifaceted problem, and definitely a crisis. but when you look at the politics of it up front there was a lot of screaming and yelling about a republican governor in texas sending migrants on buses up to new york city in chicago. that was a governor in florida. >> that's right. >> but then we learned when the city of new york set the team down there to the mayor's office, that the el paso mayor was sending seven buses versus the three bosses that the governor was sending and he's a fellow democrat. that was a city that was just being overwhelmed and they were
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saying where do you want to go? if you tack on top of that the idea that most of these border crossings are facilitated by two major cartels in mexico. they are charging between 1500 and $4,000 ahead for single travelers, more for families. when title 42 comes down, they expect that to go from 170,000 crossings a month to over 200. that will be feeding more money, not the millions, in the billions to the cartels, which isn't good for us, because that's being funneled back into the drug markets. it's a surround sound drama. >> we have one minute left, left to the lightning mat of the solution. >> the solution i think, everyone is agreed here that congress has to act. this goes back to newt gingrich and ted kennedy coming up with a bill that they just couldn't get across. even back then, parties were too brittle. we need to have a mechanism, we can't let the crisis overtake us.
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>> congress has to act. we have to secure the border and we have to fix our bright broken asylum system. >> congressman, take this message back to congress. what is the answer? >> i'll start with dreamers. that's the low hanging fruit. and by the way, we are willing to do for security. the republicans just walked away from the table in the cinema tillis framework. they don't want anything, they want to weaponize this two years from now. let's do dreamers. they work, their nurses, the teachers, they own their homes, their small business owners. they're americans for in for everything except for one thing. get around that piece of paper. let's do. it >> and by the way, most of these things are things that most american people what. >> i hear you. let's start with what should be easy. for every reason it's. not gentlemen thank you very much for that conversation. really preceded. next it honest claims to be all about free meat, so why did he just banned journalists who cover him in the tech industry including cnn's own donie
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justin tonight. elon musk banning multiple tech journalists from twitter with no explanation. the suspensions come just hours after twitter shut down an account belonging to a competitor mastered on. it includes new york times ryan mack, washington post you borrow while, and our own cnn's donie o'sullivan. here to talk with me about this is john berman, also donie o'sullivan. what did you do that was so bad donie? >> we reported on elon musk. we were talking about the world's foremost richest man, the world's second richest man
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who runs twitter. he has taken particular, he's been annoyed that there's a that's been open for years now the tracks the movements of his private jet. >> you're not doing that. why did you get by? and >> we reported yesterday how he shut that account down, and we continue to report on. he's claiming on social media that i and other journalists shared the precise live location of his jet and therefore that's why he kicked this off because we caused pain to him. in my case i didn't. we just posted about what was happening and shutting down those accounts. but look, i think the bigger issue is here of course this is supposed to be the guy who is the free speech absolutist. >> are you saying that elon musk is saying something that isn't true? >> i think that seems to be the case. >> it actually goes further than that john. he was touting freedom of speech as this beacon, that
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twitter would be a beacon of that, until it comes to anything say something about something that he is like. >> there's a word for that. it might be called hypocrisy. first of all, elon musk's understanding of freedom of speech as something somewhat limited. no constitutional freedom of speech for a private company. never has been, and as far as i know there never will be. so his criticism from twitter were off-base from before. it's his company, he can bandoneon if he wants to, it's just wildly hypocritical. >> what is cnn gonna do about this. >> i think this raises a big question about what the future of the free press on twitter looks like. our news organizations going to stand by as the reporters are just hastily band without explanation? cnn's saying it's going to reevaluate its relationship with twitter based on the response against. i want to redo the full statement. it says the impulsive and unjustified suspension of a number of reporters including
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cnn's donie o'sullivan is concerning but not surprising and it goes on to say twitters increasing instability and volatility should be of incredible concern everyone who uses twitter and goes on to say, we've asked twitter for an explanation and we won't reevaluate our relationship based on that response. i think it's so important to point out that twitter really relies on news. that's kind of the lifeblood of twitter. so if you see news organizations start to hold pull their reporters, polar brand accounts, pull the content off twitter, it'll be a real blow to the platform and make it less usable for the average person. >> do my job here. devil's advocate against myself. look, when trump got suspended, everybody pointed out that that was also a concerning thing for many people, kicking off the then president of the united states regardless of the circumstances. i have a platform.
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i'm here talking to you on cnn. there are other social media platforms. despite what he, it does not actually apply to twitter. i think what is more concerning here though is independent journalist, freelance journalists all-round the world many of whom are covering maybe abuses awe elon musk's other companies, tesla, spacex. think about the chilling effect that may have. many journalists rely on twitter to get their work at their, especially their independent freelancers. one >> of the things that i think the word hypocrisy comes in is that a lot of people fell out that hateful hateful, vitriolic's violent speech should not be allowed because of his personal safety. he doesn't want his personal safety violated. he doesn't want people to know areas. it's about personal safety. >> when it's about him he doesn't like it so much. i said this before to you, elon musk is a very successful businessman. he's a rich guy who bought a media company but because he bought a media company doesn't
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mean he understands a thing about the media business or how this all works. i think he's just proving that again and again. >> if i may, i think we can say is actively smearing people like tony saying that they posted assassination corners by reporting on -- that's not true, that's totally false, but that's where you're hearing him say on twitter tonight. >> also the location of the jet is publicly available information. >> he's gonna get a saw band! >> i always thought i get bad for my bad jokes. >> that really adds another wrinkle to. it gentlemen, thank you very much. next, chuck schumer nancy pelosi stick speak sit down with cnn exclusively and i say that joe biden should run for a second term as pelosi throws some shade at a for certain former president. maybe she does and impersonation. we'll see. 95% of women had visibly-smoother skin.
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had i known that standing up for truth would cost me my job, friendships and even my personal security i would without hesitation to it all over again. i can rest easy at night knowing that i fulfilled my oath to the office. i know many in this institution cannot do the same. >> if we get out of this mess that we're in, the polarization, they hate, the anger, the fear. the first step out of that is with gratitude because this country has always done great
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things. but we do great things when we are together. when we embrace normalcy, when we embrace decency, when we embrace compassion. >> that was republican adam kinzinger, and democrat tim ryan delivering your final speeches as congressman on the floor. we have a cnn exclusive for you. jamie gangel system outgoing speaker nancy pelosi and senate leader chuck schumer. and former congressman joe walsh. let's listen to this sit down over lunch with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. here they are talking about if they would like president biden to run again. >> there is a cnn poll that just came out that shows there is little appetite on both sides for a biden trump rematch in 2024.
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your stepping aside. do you think president biden should step aside for a younger generation? >> i think president biden has done an excellent job as president of the united states. i hope that he does seek reelection. he's a person with a great vision for our country. he's been involved for a long time so he has great knowledge of the issues and the challenges that we face. he is the most empathetic president. he connects with the american people. the vision, the knowledge, the strategic thinking is all here. the empathy is from the heart. and i think he has been a great present. >> you think he should run. again >> he's done an excellent, excellent job, and if he runs a municipal from all the way. >> john, as you know i don't let anything can weigh with my lunch. >> how many interviews have you done in a diner before?
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i've never seen anyone featuring an interview. she's an eight. there's food here i'm starving. >> now okay back to the point. has something shifted since the midterm? as the momentum for president biden to run again shifted? >> he's got a better story now that he had before the midterms with the senate, they did lose control of the house of representatives maybe not by moore's as much as people thought they would. president biden's continued to pass things that he wanted to pass, so think nancy pelosi and chuck schumer giving the natural response. he would not expect leaders of congress in the presidents party to say anything but what they said right there. and unless until there is a democratic alternative i don't expect to hear that from anyone in any kind of leadership position. >> yes, i want whatever sam and she was eating. >> looked like a burrito. >> i think the winds have shifted. biden is in great shape. this is just the beginning
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because my former political party now in charge of the house is going to just make a mess of things for two years and president biden is just gonna sit back and point at that mess that the american people are not gonna be happy with. >> two years is an eternity. we're two years from an election. a month could be an eternity. >> many might change his mind? >> no i think he's done a good job. we went through a pandemic, he was definitely for the american family. investing in infrastructure may be as mature as more as eisenhower did. gun control. dealing with the student debt. so when we have somebody working for us in the doing a good job, what do we do because we don't like the title? we fire them? now we re-hire them. >> i do think jot that in general americans like consistency and then the storms stick with the devil they know. i'm not saying he's gonna win. >> incumbent presidents rarely
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lose. it doesn't happen often. i will say this that joe biden i think the world especially democratic world is looking at things differently as long as donald trump is in the race. as long as donald trump may or is likely to be the republican nominee, joe biden has the nominee, it's a different story. but is there a generational comparison, and i think there may be a recalculation. they may come to the same place, but i think they will rethink it. >> not let's hear from nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and donald trump's announcement. >> right now donald trump is the only republican who has announced he could be the nominee. he could be president again. you've been through the first presidency, you've been through january 6th. what would it mean if donald trump was reelected president? >> i don't think it'll happen. the american people of god unwise to him. took a while but they did. >> i don't think we should talk about him while we're eating.
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>> [laughter] >> that's a funny line. >> that's a great line. >> but i think you disagree fundamentally with what senator schumer was saying. >> all respect to senator schumer, he's still the king of the republican base donald trump >> donald trump is? >> yeah. the tide is turning, i don't know if it's -- >> well, if you see the results in the last election and you see what we did in the senate and even though we lost a majority of the house, a tight margin unforeseen before at this level, i think he's done. i think trump is done. again, two years is an eternity, a month is an eternity in politics. >> i hear what you're saying, but does the last experience inform your thoughts at all, which is a lot of people didn't take him seriously and -- >> i get that but january six
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and a host of things. the accumulation of things and even though he has a base, it's not broad enough for america to come forward -- >> i think there's still a decent chance he gets the nomination. i just don't think 11 be elected again. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. very interesting. more than a month after the murders of those for college students in idaho, the mother of one of the victims feels says she feels left in the dark by police. up next, where the investigation stands. next. rning electric... completely on its s head. bringing legendary design.... and state-of-the-art technology... to a fully-electric suv. the all-new, all-electric eqb from mercedes-benz. see your dealer for exceptional offers on mercedes-benz electric vehicles.
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it's been more than a month since the murders of four college students in idaho and police have yet to name a suspect. the biggest development was police asking the public for help finding that white hyundai elantra or information about it we've not heard about any other league what happened with leads on that car. now the mother of one of the victims is speaking out let's listen to her. >> sleepless nights, it's feeling sick to your stomach i'm, it's just being left in the dark. >> you found out about the white car from a press? release >> yes. yes. >> did they send you the press release? >> no. >> she's one of multiple parents speaking out this week looking for answers about their children. back with me is john berman,
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john miller and joey jackson. i don't understand jon what's happening in idaho, why this is taking so long. that white car, i thought that was linked somehow to the driveway at that apartment or something, but it seems like it was just kind of spotted in the neighborhood? >> well the white car is a lead, which is after doing the big video canvas and asking people what they've seen, someone comes forward with a piece of video and deciding that that car was in the area of the residents of the time of the murder and they want to know more about it. we don't really know if they know any more about just that because they're not saying. there are like 20,000 of that car between those years in that color in the area in the whole state of idaho. without finding the car, they can do basically a batch dump of all the registered owners
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cross out with and cic and see you as a criminal past and so on, there are things they can get through, but it's just a lead. >> joey, this mother i think is recognizing what i often felt when i was a crime reporter which is victims families think the police are their advocates or the police are there for them, but in fact the police sometimes do a bad job of that. the police are trying to solve a crime and they are often insensitive to what the families need. >> but that's problematic. it takes a village and i think certainly police prosecutors other law enforcement entities have to be sensitive to people who are really in misery and who are really grieving and doing other things at the time. you want answers, you want information. and so yes, we have to understand respect the fact that the police are busy allison. they have a lot of work to do, they're trying to do their due diligence, but for families to learn about things on tv like everyone else, i think you have to be a conduit to the families. you have to give them repeated and persistent updates, you have to give them a sense of comfort comfort that you're
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doing your job and trying to bring some measure of justice whatever that looks like to them. >> that leads us to the story of the missing american student in france. his parents have not gotten any information, they don't know what's happened to their son. authorities in france they find not terribly helpful. they went on anderson last night i think this is a sound we have from them let's listen. >> i talked to the fbi today and i asked the fbi agent, do you feel like there's any progress, what's the status? i don't get anywhere it just feels like the wind has gone out of the sale as far as what is being done done to find my son. the more time they goes by more worried we become. >> this is why parents to turn to the media often really helps. >> well, it can help in certain aspects. john a thinking in probably
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speak on this more than i can't, but they're different constituencies here. the fbi is trying to solve the crime and that is the first, second, third, fourth, fifth interest in this case. they should have a better bedside matter. like we talk about doctors in the hospital. yes, their job is to save the patient but wouldn't be nice if they did a better job talking to the families of also. it's a skill. it's not the primary thing they are doing there though. >> but the parents are desperate for information. the fbi or the pleas could lease just give them an update. here's what we are doing today. >> what if that would compromise the investigation? what if you're telling them something that shouldn't be made public or no. >> we have a completely different problem in france which is the secret is the french authorities are telling the fbi anything. so the fbi has nothing to tell that family. the french are telling the state department that we are tracking and following the investigation full stop.
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we think he walked away of his own accord. he's 22 years old and a full on grown-up. you know, if he turns up anywhere, we'll get back to right away. but they are not doing a nationwide hunt using all resources for this. and that as we have circle back between these two stories is very hard for parents. the french are being very french about this which is, he will be fine, and the americans are being very american about which we want answers now. >> will it help that inner police involved now? >> interpol is a clearinghouse for information. what will really help is that yellow notice that they put out that now circulates this picture to every border crossing. if he gets on a plane, if he crosses between one country in the eu and another, that should ring a bell that this missing person is here now. >> it's about time they did that. the family's position was, look, do something right. we believe that our son is acting not in accord with how we normally acts. they're seeing nothing to see harry probably just watered
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off. there's probably nothing amiss. there's nothing nefarious going on. that's a major disconnect between a family who wants answers and the french saying you know what? prosecutors agree he'll be back, don't worry about it. >> i also want to get in the family, the parents of the e.v.a. shooting, because they are speaking it also. and they want the public's help. listen to this. >> we need to change gun laws, change them. we need more stipulation, the red flags were there and this young man was still able to purchase a firearm. >> we are here to advocate against gun violence and mental health issues. we are here to make sure another family never has to go through this again. >> john of course they are right. the red flags were there and she said and yet he was able to purchase a gun. >> yeah alison, so many of
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these families from so many different events and these parents have now join this growing club of people who have been so badly hurt by this and are now just crying out to the world for something. but their cries -- the crying out warning, warning, warning but no one is listening. >> i suppose this is what all parents say, that the signs were there in that they need to tighten up the red flag laws. many states are trying to do that. a bipartisan gun law was trying to do that but it always feels like afterwards we find out about the science. gentlemen, thank you very much. john and john, you're not going anywhere, joey thank you. because tonight the national archives has released more than 13,000 additional documents on the assassination of john f. kennedy in 1963. what do they say? what will we learn? after nearly six decades. why has it taken so long for to make these documents public? we're gonna be joined by
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>> tonight, the national archives releasing 13,000 previously classified documents on the assassination of john f. kennedy. thousands of pages are still under lock and key, 59 years after kennedy's murder. why? and what's in those pages? back with me john berman and john miller. we are also joined by presidential historian douglas brinkley brinkley, author of -- douglas, i want to start with you. 13,000 pages that have just been released reveal some new nugget that we did not know about? >> people are hoping that might be the case. it's another piece to the public puzzle of the great murder mystery of american
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history. but alas, when we throw numbers, 13, 000, usually find out that most of these are just articles or general observations, nothing really that exciting and what also is very disturbing to the public that is not to the scholar is how much got gets redacted. our intelligence services, defense department, national security does oftentimes darken -- document. conspiracy minded people getting inflamed -- but biden made his mark. today he got his documents released. that's not going to be enough when they're still cia files and others still not's cause to fight. where is the west rest? >> but john, if there's nothing in them, how why have they been under long can kyiv for -- >> it's obviously such a a --
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what it was the lack cave transparency in the early years that was -- will never go away. people will never be satisfied. if there is not a release in their, people say, see, they are hiding something. they didn't release the real stuff here. people are not going to believe it. but i think the original sin from this happens so, so long ago. and the cia is probably keeping now stuff that the cia probably -- >> maybe, or maybe there's something about lee harvey oswald in there, john. >> if you look at what they released, the cia -- we released almost everything we have. and these redactions and these new releases are much smaller than the redactions in the early ones. john is right. this was a generation that i grew up in. and nobody, given the choice -- nobody really wants to believe that some should lump, was solely responsible for killing
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the person that many regard is the most inspirational, charismatic president in american politics since lincoln. and there has got to be a better story. so, if they released the next documents and there's only two words redacted, the conspiracy theorists will say, the secret is in those two words. >> is it possible that we still don't know something, that there is still some mystery that could be unearthed? >> yes, there is. most people feel some pieces missing. is it the chicago mob? was there a cia involvement? that has been hidden? why was oswald -- what was he doing in mexico city? these things continue every year. there's some good, new research that comes out. but alas, we are still left with the fact that lee harvey oswald is seen as the murder of john f. kennedy. and the rest is circumstantial. but the fact that jack ruby was then killed after oswald, the fact that the warren commission
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did not do a completely full job at the time -- john berman rightfully said, there's never going to be enough. we are never going to be able to satisfy all people that want to definitive answer about this. but this may be a couple documents here. they might move the narrative forward in a small way. and they might pick up for another. >> doug brinkley, john berman -- john, want to thank all of you. and thank you all for watching tonight. our coverage continues. oh no... for the gifts you won't forget. happy holidays from mercedes-benz. see your mercedes-benz dealer today for exceptional offers. are you feeling sluggish or weighed down? metamucil's new fiber plus collagen can help.
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