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>> it is obtained. >> el paso is mayor says that if title 42 is lifted next week, it could jump to 5000 per day. already, shelters are out of space and facility processing centers are overcapacity. despite, this mayor says he doesn't see a need to declare the situation a state of emergency. >> though i think that i'm 100 percent sure is that we're prepared on december 21st. the community and city of el paso will be prepared. >> at the river, hundreds are still waiting to get into the u.s. and the lines show no signs of slowing down. before they crossed, jason said they will wait in the frigid cold as long as it takes to get past the wall. i asked him what they will
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think if that happens. >> thank god it's gonna be a new life for us. >> ed lavandera joins us from el paso. can you explain the policy. what is the difference between them? >> well, the policy was called the micro protection protocol. allow the u.s. government to expel migrants coming from countries other than mexico. forcing them to wait on the other side of the border. it is highly controversial. essentially sending migrants to very dangerous border cities on the mexican side. title 42 is actually [inaudible] it's a public health policy that was used during the pandemic era to keep migrants from entering the united states. both of them, highly controversial. obviously, tied it for years. >> a lavandera. new york city officials are struggling to process the
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hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers that have about. -- according to the latest count, two thirds remain in the city and a permanent housing. what are close. cnn's bettes has more. >> from venezuela to columbia, central america, mexico and by bus, from texas. eventually to new york city. rojas says she was frightened at every step of the month long journey. the first fears the jungle, she says. navigating threats of possible violence, disease and more. alongside her husband and son. middle of it all, the three of them found out she was carrying a fourth. she was pregnant. but time should gone to new york, harsh conditions of her travel had taken a toll. i got sick because i had a urinary trip -- was hospitalized because of the baby.
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beginnings of potential abortion. in november, her daughter was born. symbolizing the future she came here for in the first place. her journey is the more than 30,000 sound seekers that have landed in new york city since the spring. some, of the revolution. sunset on a bus from texas to make a political point. as of this week, more than 20,000 migrants remain in the cities care. it's eric adams declared a state of emergency in october. estimating the city will spend roughly a billion dollars on the influx of migrants. >> we need help. this is serious money that we're spending because we're doing the right thing. mayor adams says he plans to ask for more money from fema ahead of the expected lifting a title 42. as weather gets colder, the reality for care and incoming migrants is changing. >> we see people arriving a t-shirts and flip-flops. they don't have proper winter
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clothes. little kids with, baby showing a blanket and i prone. no winter clothing. so, that is a huge challenge. >> robert gonzales works with the nerc base of. -- support. working to help connect migrants with resources like social service, mental health and more. he knows what the journey here is difficult and equally difficult for the lives ahead. >> long language, ability to understand and integrate a new system, new culture. want to be able to grow up. other people come to the united states for that. >> rojas's husband is now working. since they got here in july, maybe later, they've been in shelters. still in 10. trying to enter. i asked her what she wants for her future. >> we're waiting for the year
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and, to become legal. she says. to get work. taking english courses. we're in this process to try and bring our family to the state to build a future here. >> omar ministers us here. the system is so broken that it takes so long for hearings to occur. that's a plot of the new year. you can be 35 years before it is actually adjudicated. even if all that time there are a lot to work. >> you can imagine how hard it is to plan. knowing that the stakes could get ripped away from you at any moment. she, as we mentioned, her husband has found a job. as a construction worker. she's also been trying to find work. is now dealing with two kids at a shelter. both of them say they plan to file for asylum in the new year, they can, do as one of the deal within a year of being here. she really says her goal of this point is to try and find what her future school is going to be for her three-year-old. she had to leave her oldest
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kids back in venezuela. she's trying to establish a base here to get him here one day. separate from that, on the buses that were sent from texas to washington d.c., chicago, new york, one on new york's response told cnn that the pace of buses is slow. there is still a huge demand for people, services, winter clothes to get some of these migrants who are not used to this weather. also, these are all demands that could get that much more tense with the title 42 next week. >> joined now by democratic congressman who's border with mexico. congressman, appreciate you being with us. first of all, -- probe, even as title 42 is set. >> well, i do agree with the statement protocol. i think we need to do more for those individuals to stay there. you can always think outside the box for the u.n., refugee
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commission that can come in and give them protection if they needed. the question is this, you know, why can we not have people give asylum in an orderly process. i'm hoping that the administration will come up with what they've been talking about. don't know what they're going to do. i don't know if they can do the right thing with all due respect. what we want to see is people who apply for asylum. do it in an orderly fashion. [inaudible] >> what would that look like? that makes sense, obviously, on paper. the system that exists is it's insane. people can just cross over, say they want asylum, and it takes years before a judge actually rules on that. that makes no sense whatsoever. obviously, what is the solution? >> well, look. the bottom line, some decisions have to be made.
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some can be uncomfortable. they administration miss make those decisions. if they have to return some people say, go back and find the right way to do this. go through a port of entry. they go ahead and do that. the problem is, the signals have been sent off. what we're seeing -- all they have to do is look at the images are seeing on cnn right now. down in south america, other places. they know the borders open. they are returning people under title 42. you don't see any strong images people going back. if you recall, 2014, secretary johnson under president obama did the right thing. he treated people with respect, dignity and compassion. at the end of the day, he showed images of people being returned. right now, we don't see them going back. we see the images the plane and
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your screen right now of people coming in. it opens up the pipeline for more people to come. just yesterday, there was 50,000 people still waiting for title 42 to go away. if it goes away next week should be very chaotic. it's already chaotic with all this in effect. >> unless congress does something, obviously, there are immediate things about his policies. unless congress does something, legislatively, there is no end in sight. >> well, keep in mind, 2014. johnson had the same laws that we have on the books right now. he was able to do things. i agree. congressman has to reenact the workers comp. a worker's plan. we should have all that full immigration report. i agree with that 100 percent. keep in mind that the obama
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administration used the same things that we have right now, without even title 42. they reveal to control it when we had a large surge. we've seen surges before. they have been in cycles. this is different. this surge has been at a high-level and hasn't stopped. seems like it is going to continue to grow. >> congressman, appreciate your time tonight. thank. you the white house pushes back on russian threats after u.s. may deliver this all defenses to ukraine. whatever ukrainians. they're light on the, ground from louisiana on the 20 december through the state, killing three, including a child.
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>> forceful can -- russia will not, quote, dictate the security systems that were provided to ukraine. the comments are response to russian threats to the united states after cnn another ellis reported the u.s. is finalizing plans to send the patriot
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missile defense system to ukraine. today, top ukrainian amid what terry face -- 41 missile attacks, including 12 drone attacks in last week. cnn senior international correspondent, will ripley, is there today. >> even before the systems coming to ukraine, the russians, whether be the kremlin or, d.c. they're responding quickly. the embassy saying that they would be unpredictable consequences if the pages arrived in ukraine. the kremlin saying they would become legitimate targets. although it is unknown whether they'll be able to find them or hit them. what the ukrainians have been saying for months or even years now is that they need these weapons systems. as of, late to defend against the constant bombardment of the sicilian -- civilian structure to inflict suffering on noise beeline ukraine. who are living in the dark and cold right now. certainly, that is the situation for those who remain
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in kherson on the front line to the south. that city was occupied by russia is now a target of constant onslaught of shelling that has not only kill people and destroyed much of the administrative buildings, but has also disconnected that city from its paragraph. in donetsk, to be east, there is also been very fierce fighting. russia is trying to take back the city of bakhmut. ukrainians firing dozens of rockets and russian held territories. russians described as the worst attack on donetsk since 2014. some eight years. cnn can't independently -- a social media videos have emerged showing buildings on. fire that neighbor was hit. both commercial and residential buildings were hit. there was even a major intersection that was set ablaze. in economists, ukrainian officials are signaling that they think that the russians could be preparing a major attack on the capital, kyiv, sometime early next year. now, this comes with a caveat that russians and ukrainians have both deliberately use
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information for their advantage. sometimes misinformation, to literally put out there to try and throw up the other side. that said, the head of ukraine's armed forces had, to the economist, that he believes that russia is preparing some 200,000 fresh troops. he said he had no doubt that they were trying to make a move on kyiv at some point. another reason why lots of training and loss of preparation is needed by the ukrainians. they continue at this moment to fight on the front lines, hold the lines, prepare for whatever may be coming down the road. >> will ripley, appreciate it. thank you. >> lieutenant general hertling. he heard the report from. well why do you think russians are issuing threats over the pages when they're intended to use for defense purposes? >> well, they don't want the patriots inside ukraine anytime soon, anderson. they knew that the capability that would counter any long range strike capability that the russians have. what i'm talking about there is they have been launching multiple missiles and rockets
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from long range bombers that are outside the area of operations. they know that these patriot systems not only have a greater altitude, strike in the air, but a longer range. they could not only hit incoming missiles with different types of ammunition. they can also get these long-range bombers. it causes the russians to go further out. this is all part of the defensive capability in ukraine. to continue to push the russians back. so that they can don't continue to strike the citizens of the country. >> a spokesman for the pentagon said, we're not allowed to -- systems that we provide to ukraine. do you expect the pentagon -- to expect them to [inaudible] we discuss this a couple times. now the cost of the systems and solve. the cost of the individual patriot missile. millions of dollars to hit a drone that you said can cause
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$20,000. >> well, they will be hitting the drones. chance your question first, anderson, sorry. yes. joe expect them to deploy some
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>> it is seen leaving the same. leaving the area of the classroom.
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we also reported that he had information about a 9-1-1 call for kids trapped inside the classroom or. according to investigators, failed to take any kind of leadership role. of course, school police chief, who has been labeled a commander on scene that day. scrutinized by many milan forsman over his actions that day. those two individuals are the ones that we're told investigators have been troubled by. we also got a chance to speak to the man who was running that investigation. in charge of this investigation. colonel steve mccraw. take a listen to what he told us about the investigation. >> the one thing that is important. i know people have talked about what investigation? the subjects death. looking at criminal call believe allow enforcement. why should we not be judicious and thorough and investigating bomb former officers as we are
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not law enforcement? >> you think you've done? that with your best? gaiters they've been doing that? they've done that. >> absolutely. >> she's going to, district attorney, we'll see information in the next days or so. well intensive purposes, beside some followups that may come up down the line. you believe it's basically the investigation is going to be. >> absolutely. >> it'll be in her -- >> if she finds gaps are additional things, it'll be those particular things. >> anderson, the part of the texas rangers, they are done. they're done with their investigation. it's going to be up to district attorney. has he said that. the question is, does she can be in a grand jury? does she ultimately decide the next steps here? that is what everyone now is waiting for. >> lopez, thank you. coming up, turmoil among republicans as kevin mccarthy bites become the next speaker. plus, running to both parties
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>> message to washington tonight from one of its own republicans, adam kinzinger, after not seeking reelection. he serves on the january 6th select committee. it's hard to both parties in his farewell speech. singling out the former president, also condemn democrats his own party. >> instead of using our platform to advance the well-being of our nation, and our people, we turn this institution into an echo chamber of lies. all overseas, i witnessed changers that radicalization of believes can have on people and iraq and afghanistan. sadly, since coming to congress, i've watched how republicans and democrats of openness beer in much the same way.
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we all swore an oath in this very chamber to support and defend the constitution of the united states. not a particular political party. not a single man. despite democratic colleagues, you too must bear the burden of our failures. many of you have asked me, where are all the good republicans? for the past years, democratic leadership had the opportunity to stand above the fray. instead, they put millions of dollars into the campaigns of maga republicans. we keep stoking the fire. you can't point fingers when our great experiment goes up in flames. unfortunately, we now live in a world where lies trump truth. where democracy is being challenged by authoritarianism. >> when the, cnn political all in the list and correspondent haberman. capitol hill reporter, melanie. >> you heard what adam kinzinger said. he is a liar when it comes to
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republican can dress in the house. do you think that the former presidents hold is still solid there? >> i think it is stronger than it would seem based on trump's political 14 shuns right now. which are certainly decelerating. i do think that trumpism has a hold on these members. trump's political base is still what alexei's members and republican primaries. i think that trump has control over certain districts more than others. he is still a big factor here. i think that's what cans igor is battling against. >> melanie, what are house republicans are threatening to do? >> they're getting increasingly worried about the prospect of chaos. on january 3rd, you have the small band of edging the republican starting to take him down. they're throwing hardball tactics. one of those options, my colleagues, to kick those members of their committee as a former rapper tribute. jim for now, tabling the idea. they're considering other options. but a close minerals package. containing hard-line mans of
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these critics are seeking. also, threatening to be met with democrats, work across the aisle to democrat up -- it's unclear some of these things could work. if moderates are unwilling to follow through. it really does speak to the tension and frustration right now. and anxiety that is running outside gop as mccarthy is struggling to run for speaker. >> maggie, former president trump has been lobbying house republicans to support mccarthy is the next speaker. how aggressive has that been? how much political capital to see actually have? >> it's a great question, anderson. my colleagues and i reported on that. the trump is making calls to win for mccarthy. some of these hold downs. trump tends to not expend a ton of capital if he thinks he might lose. i think he is where there's not a ton of perception right now to what he is selling on mccarthy. i think members still like trump. what he's pushing on mccarthy, with mccarthy, is not really something they are responsive to right now. i don't think he has a ton of capital now that we are past
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midterms. this is happening three months ago, maybe. not renowned. >> maggie, how serious is the presidents campaign at this point? look, it's early. i guess. he's out there, doing stuff. playing golf, being at mar-a-lago. it seems like he's holed up there. he announced a digital trading card. selling for $99 a pop today. this is big and major announcement. what is going on at that campaign? >> there are serious people in that campaign, anderson. i want to be clear but. that susie wildes, brian jack. they are serious people. 20 fabrizio with the campaign. he's been a serious trump advisor for a long time. that is me trump insult is going to be hit seriously. we've seen that over the course of almost eight years. and it continues. his heart is not in this, it seems. the way that it was previously. he does not seem, to your point, serious about a campaign. he teases nails but yesterday
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the midterm. an announcement, an mp was getting calls from people saying, is about his campaign? this is about the speakers? raise this is about something significant politically? it was about another sales job for something that he can pocket personally, financially. he may get serious in january. i keeps hearing they're putting a bunch of events in january that will be low-key rallies. might be some rallies. we're not there yet. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> up next, transitional rain, snow, ice in the northeast. and after the same storm system spawned 20 tornadoes towards louisiana, residents are facing there tonight. hey, are you ready? ♪ ♪ ah, this baby's coming.
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ice and rain to millions of people. heavy snowfall is protected in parts of pennsylvania, new york, possibly as high as two feet. ice and rain also in the carolinas. at the new england. that's after dozens of tornadoes ahead a path of destruction in louisiana, three people, including a child, died. cnn meteorologist derek van damme has more for severe
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weather. >> it's about a mile and a half stretch that is completely inundated with destruction. this is not the place where we normally have tornadoes. >> hurricanes, tornado. never tornado. >> but it was a tornado that did this damage in louisiana, cutting a large swath across the city. >> you can hear a freight train. you could hear things. classes cracking everywhere. it was horrible. >> the home where sigmund lawrence lived had just been repaired after hurricane ida. it was the most devastating thing in my life. i never experience something like this before. it happened so fast. i just showed up everything in the neighborhood. >> her, just one of the communities battered by an outbreak of more than 50 reported tornadoes in the last 48 hours across the deep south. living deep scars in louisiana. roofs ripped off. homes, flatten.
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trees, splintered. power poles, ripped from the ground. they'll break, blamed for at least three deaths. >> quite frankly, i'm a beast that [inaudible] i very think will far. >> damage for the storm system spending seven states from texas to florida, as it marches eastward, bringing heavy rain and possible tornadoes to the sunshine state. concern now growing on the eastern seaboard. del bella ping nor'easter could bring a foot of snow to new england, boston and new york. >> we're ready for this. bring it on. mother nature, keep at it. well back down south, residents left to pick up the pieces after this wicked start to winter. >> meteorologist derek van damme joins us from louisiana. any and acacia how powerful this tornado was? >> yeah, anderson.
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national weather center service actually came to survey the tornado damage that you see directly over my left shoulder. preliminarily called this an ef2 tornado. get this, that is winds of up to 135 miles per hour. that is equivalent to a category three hurricane. anderson, you are familiar with hurricane katrina. so are the residents of this area. actually approach the gulf coast as a category three, as well. of course, difference here between had a -- hurricane in tornadoes that a hurricane can damage hundreds of miles. tornado is of a localized experience, taking houses more city block by city. black >> this is not the first tornado strike in new orleans area this year. >> yeah, in fact, i was here in march of this year. so, we're talking ten months ago. my team and i were covering an ef3 tornado that literally had a similar path to the tornado cause of destruction that you
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see behind. me they literally crossed paths in arabi, which is just a couple of miles from standing right now. people here are used to hurricanes. they prepare for hurricanes in new orleans. not used to tornadoes necessarily. so, with this happened two times and listening here, they're wondering, hey, is this our normal now? >> yeah. defended, appreciate coverage. thank you so much. coming up, new details on the four idaho university students and what one of the mobs had to say about versus bonds. a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc got the upper hand... rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check. and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections,
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>> it's that more than a month since four university of idaho students were stabbed to death in an off campus. home still tonight, no suspect in custody, no murder weapon has been found. great frustration with investigators of the lack of details being released. today, mom of one of the victims spoke out about the day she founded her daughter, 21-year-old kayleigh, was killed. >> nothing you could do. absolutely nothing. just running around for hours. not knowing what's going on. what happened. we found out by people calling us.
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and the sheriff showed up there is later. >> when he shot the sheriff, did you know? >> yes. i saw that. i said, it's not real. until the sheriff pulls up. >> her mom had a lot more to say about the investigation. from cassidy tales. >> sleepless nights. it's feeling sick to her stomach. >> kristie gonzales, a mother in english. her 20 old daughter, one of four university of ottawa students stabbed to death in their of campus home more than a month ago. kristie, sharing her frustration over what she says is a lack of direct communication with police. one example, when one president reached out to the public for information on a white hyundai, senior the crime scene. >> you found out about the wake of a press release? >> yes. yes. >> did they send you the press release? >> no. >> moscow police disagreed saying that they sense the release of the attorney saying that police had been trying to communicate with gonzalez,
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returning a family said they met with police on monday. >> but they also want to hold authorities accountable for what they say is a lack of information. >> trust us has really been the theme. trust us. making the right decision. trust us. well, you know, that only go so far. throughout the investigation, police have said they are making progress. not really seen developments to protect the investigation. >> time will tell whether that was a wise decision or not a wise decision. i'd be more consumption about catching individual than preserving the case. >> either way, avoid information has made it hard for the community to move forward. some are still fearful. >> which is why christopher schwartz started offering free self-defense classes this past month at his studio. >> the fears that people are having, it was only right to offer it. >> the demand that the classes are so overwhelming, all the
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spots buildup within 32 hours. a student sleep count for winter break, please remain hopeful that potential witnesses come forward. >> i think people all over america and students here at the college, the university, they'll still be thinking about this. able to provide information. if they still have it. >> something a grieving mother holds on to. >> are you confident the police are going to solve this crime? >> i have to be. >> monica joins me now. for, what is the latest for investigators with the car that they think is related to the case? >> anderson, police say there are 22,000 registered white hyundai a launches in the area that match the specific description of exactly what they're looking for. that is a lot of information to go there. it is a they are parsing through all of that data. they say that tips and leads have led them to discover patterns. it's to those patterns that they found that car. they believe that whoever was inside that car has significant information that could be
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valuable to this case. they want to speak to them. they're asking for more information about whoever was in that car, possibly surveillance video related to that car. it is really the most significant clue that we have received. do the, police did this investigation of the last month. i think that's why you hear such frustration from the gonzalez family. a lot of this, there has been such little information. of course, please continue to reiterate, they're keeping things tight in order to protect the integrity of the investigation. anderson? >> our nick, appreciate the update. thank you. next, can the republican party win in 2024 with the former president? gop governor who just won a fourth term, christianity, opens up to cnn about that. another candidate getting another -- a lot of attention. that lets you shop over 17,000 cars from home. creating a coast-to-coast network to deliver your car as soon as tomorrow. recruiting an army of customer advocates to make your experience incredible. and putting you in control of the whole thing,
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christian dean. in is developing assessment to the biggest names in this party. search as a way to win back the white house in 2024. dana bash is going to bring but in-depth -- dresses with a preview. it's really fascinating, the governor talk to you, a very scary health scare he had recently. >> yeah. not something you would expect from someone as young as he has. he just turned 48. he almost died. we talked about that in the context of how it changed his perspective on things. take a listen. >> i think i thought i had covid. about a week. i thought, yeah, holiday weekend of labor day. it's coming up. i better get this checked out. sure enough, i've been bleeding inside all week. i depleting also, island a third of my blood level. they had to start the transfusions a mediately. again, i thought i had the flu or covid. next again oh, i have for transfusions over 24 hours. they save me.
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it was great. >> save you. >> yeah. ultimately, beautiful of sleep and not woken up. and you would've never known. because as bleeding out. so, it was kind of scary. i'm 47. i'd like to consider myself 26. they have 47. >> 47 is young to have a whole skillet. that >> it is. you have to manage. everybody. >> all stars tend to be from? right? >> it's a stressful job. we just come from the covid pandemic. >> it took you physically. >> yeah. >> yeah, anderson. he says that he has changed the way he eats. he says he doesn't need as much red meat. that's a doctor's welcome to do. he expressed have the tom brady diet. i don't know if you know, it's very, very limited died. he says it's an aspiration. when he sitting at home at 10:30 eating cookie dough, you realize is not what tom brady does. >> yeah.
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yeah. >> what did the governor tell you about his vision for the future of the republican party in the former president? >> this is a big reason why we wanted to spend time with him. he is a relatively young republican governor in a purple state. a very important first primary state hasn't now. it is a party at a crossroads. he is a specific vision for going forward. number one is enough with the extremism and election denialism. he said something that seems so obvious, but it is remarkable to hear from a politician. anderson, he said, just be normal. just try to be a normal person. it's amazing how much you can connect with people. he's a conservative, fiscally, he is more liberal and social issues. to hear him talk about that, talk about the fact that he really wants to try and fix the republican party, which he admits it's broken, it's really interesting given where it is right now. >> people just wan