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first, and this is new, breaking this morning, the father of a student, a u.s. student who has been missing in france for the past two weeks tells cnn just a short time ago that his son denny delan jr. is alive and he has spoken to him. we are following the developments of this story closely. what happened here? we will be live in france in just a moment. also this morning, the situation growing more complicated at the u.s. southern border. overnight a federal judge temporarily blocked the biden administration's bid to end the so-called remain in mexico program. this in addition to the scheduled end next week of title 42. it's causing border towns to brace for a crush of migrants this weekend. cnn will be live once again at the border. plus another development in the last 24 hours, twitter has suspended the accounts of several high-profile journalists from the nation's top news organizations, including this one, accounts that have covered elon musk aggressively in recent weeks. those accounts now suspended.

why? first, we begin at the southern border. cnn's ed lavandera in downtown el paso. i wonder, ed, what kind of preparations you're seeing there. >> reporter: well, you know, once again, dozens of migrants sleeping on the streets because the shelters here in this city simply overwhelmed. you can see many of the migrants just buried under blankets because the temperatures here have been so painfully frigid at night, into the lower 30s over the course of the last week. a bunch of different reasons for why this is happening. shelter space is very limited but there are also a number of migrants who are traveling in family groups and they get released at different points so these areas around bus stations have been kind of like the central gathering points and they don't want to stray too far away from that so they can be reunited as quickly as possible. it is causing a great deal of concern, jim, because the mayor of el paso is saying if title 42 is lifted next wednesday, december 21st, that's the date

everybody is looking toward, that right now the number of migrants that have been coming into el paso is about 2,500 per day, the mayor fears that that number could reach 5,000 people per day which would be a very difficult situation to handle. of course, many of these migrants not necessarily staying in the el paso area, it's a transportation logistical issue, they're waiting for buses or flights to reach family members or sponsors in other parts of the country, we've talked to migrants who are traveling to nevada all the way to connecticut, you know, so there is a wide array of places where many of these people are going, but it does take some time and shelter -- people who have been running the shelters say that there are more people coming in than they can get moved out. so that becomes kind of the logistical nightmare that cities along the border could be facing next week. jim? >> ed, i wonder who do people there in el paso blame for this? this has been a consistent problem for a number of years, there are legislative fixes, right, but progress on the hill consistently stalled in terms of

some sort of bipartisan agreement to adjust the rules, the laws. who do folks there hold responsible? >> reporter: well, i think, you know, there is a lot of realization that people here realize that this is a legislative congressional issue, federal issue that needs to be resolved, but i have found in my years of reporting from border communities is that the intensity over this issue is far more muted here in border communities, simply because it's an issue that they've been dealing with their entire lives, it's not -- it's not something that is foreign to them. this has happened before, they've seen it before, perhaps this is a little bit different, but the overall sense that you get from talking to people around these communities is that they've seen this before, it's something they're very much used to. >> ed lavandera on the board, thanks. jair my diamond with the president this morning in

wilmington, delaware. what is the administration doing, then torques prepare for the end of title 42 next week, that of course the pandemic era policy that allowed them to hold people out of the country due to pandemic concerns. so what are they doing? expecting the surge. >> reporter: yeah, well, listen, the administration is preparing for that anticipated surge of migrants coming to the southern border after that policy is set to end next week. an internal dhs memo this week outlined that there will likely be increased, quote, migration flows into the u.s. immediately following the end of this pandemic era policy. so the biden administration is outlining the ways in which they are preparing for that expected increase. they are surging additional personnel to the border, increasing transportation, they've hired 1,000 additional border patrol processing coordinators and added 2,500 contractors and personnel from other government agencies to help with this processing. they say as a result they've been able to increase the processing efficiency taking 30%

less time processing migrants at the border compared to last year. you're also seeing some of these other steps including targeting smugglers and bolstering a nonprofit capacity. they also have increased the amount of soft-sided temporary facilities that they have to increase their capacity to hold more migrants at the border and also increasing busing capacity, for example, as well so that one facility isn't more overwhelmed than any others. but there's no question that this will be a test, a major test for the administration next week. i asked the white house press secretary just yesterday, you know, what is the administration's estimate of how many people could actually come to the border next week? she would not provide an estimate but insisted that the administration is, quote, focused and prepared, but the bottom line here, jim, is that regardless of what they do, the administration says what needs to happen is congress. congress needs to act to change the immigration rules in this country, that that is ultimately the true problem, but right now

of course given the dynamics on capitol hill there is no indication that that's going to happen anytime soon. >> hasn't been for a number of years. just not the politics behind it for either party. thanks so much. new this morning a positive update to a story we've been following closely. in the last hour cnn has confirmed an american student who went missing in france more than two weeks ago is alive. cnn correspondent melissa pell has been following this story. melissa, it was his father who confirmed this to cnn this morning. do we know anything more, first of all, about his son's safety, health now, but also what led to his going missing? >> reporter: well, it was 17 days that he remained without any news of his son. he happened to be speaking to cnn producers this morning really for a long time and for the first time sort of broke down crying, explaining how this was simply too much, it had gone on for too long, he wasn't sleeping with no news, you can only imagine how he felt when

the news came through, finally the good news. now, since then he's confirmed to us that he has spoken to his son, although we still don't have an explanation as to where he was or why contact was severed to begin with. we do know that he had been seen on the 3rd of december an hour to the south of where he had been studying and then nothing at all until this morning. we've reached out to the prosecutor in france who opened the missing person's investigation that has confirmed that kenny dee land has been found and he is in spain. we don't know the circumstances. a good news story but with a lot of questions still unanswered. >> no question. a lot of resources put into searching for him in these last 17 days. melissa bell, thanks so much. now to elon musk. he has suspended a number of journalists from top news organizations, including this one, after claiming that they violated twitter's new doxxing policy by sharing the live location of his private yet. hours after the decision musk

entered a twitter space hosted by buzzfeed news tech reporter katie not poe lus. >> there is not going to be any distinction between journalists and regular people. everyone will be treated the sachlt you are not special because you are a journalist. on twitter you are a citizen. so no special treatment. you dox, you get suspended, end of story. >> musk abruptly left the twitter space after further questions were asked of him. axios media reporter sara fisher joins me now. i'm trying to find out where the consistency is here. it was only about ten days ago that musk tweeted, my commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk. that's changed, he now says it's a direct risk to him and his family, he calls this doxxing.

what changed and is there a consistent policy here? >> there's definitely not a consistent policy and i think that's what's causing ultimately these tensions between elon musk and journalists. i think what's changed is that reporters are starting to push back on a lot of elon musk's ad hoc policies, putting more pressure on him to answer questions about what he's doing with twitter and that's been frustrating him. this isn't the first time he has had a run-in with the mainstream press. he said for a long time that he thinks that citizen journalism, regular everyday people should have their voices elevated the same as the mainstream press, implying that traditional outlets, cnn, the "washington post" and "the new york times," outlets that have reporters suspended last night, don't always tell the full side of the story. that's his claim of course. >> well, there is another issue here because as he is shutting down journalist accounts and folks who we should note have criticized him at times, he has

replatformed white supremacist accounts, a whole host of people who shared not just disinformation but also made horrible attacks on people, espoused offensive views. does twitter, does musk have an answer to how they reconcile those seemingly contradictory positions? >> no, and when he was press bd it last night on that twitter space that you referenced he seemed completely caught offguard. he didn't want to address and answer those questions. one of the discrepancies that drew harwell a "washington post" reporter suspended last night pushed musk on is why are you banning for for doxxing, i didn't post your address, i posted a link to the account that you didn't even have on the platform. the tension comes from the fact that you're kicking journalists off for something you call doxxing, i wouldn't suggest that that's doxxing, but bringing those other accounts on that you just said. it seems there is no method to the madness here. >> flight information considered by many public information.

sara fisher, thanks so much. >> thank you. coming up next, a cnn exclusive interview with top democratic leaders in congress over chinese food. hear what chuck schumer and nancy pelosi think about biden running again in 2024. our jaime gangel conducted that interview. plus an overnight barrage of missile attacks on civilian targets in ukraine. the ukrainian military said russia fired some 76 missiles, damaging nine power facilities. remember these attacks are aimed at punishing the ukrainian people. and later, police in moscow, idaho, are still trying to find a white hyundai elantra that was near the scene where those four college students were murdered. the only problem there are some 22,000 registered cars just like that one. details on how they are trying to narrow it down and the pattern that is now emerging from the police tip line. for twice the goodness, twice the flavor, and twice the choice. sirloin salisbsbury steak and all-natural salmon.

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today president biden expected to sign a short-term funding bill averting a government shutdown for now. at least another week. as congressional negotiators still try to hammer out that long-term funding agreement. cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox is on capitol hill. they did pass the national defense authorization act last night, that's slightly different because neither republicans or democrats want to be on the hook for not giving the defense department money but does that agreement on bipartisan terms give any signal as to whether they can come to a full year government funding package? >> reporter: what it is a signal of is some of that holiday magic that happens on capitol hill when lawmakers want to get back home for christmas and the holidays. we do expect they will be able to pass this larger spending deal, but of course there is a little heartburn in the house of representatives, you've already started to see a lot of conservatives urging mitch mcconnell to block this larger package in the senate where they have ten votes. the democrats are going to need

to move this across the finish line. of course, we also have rank and file republicans in the senate like lindsey graham who is going to support this larger package telling reporters yesterday that house republicans can't even pick a speaker how are they going to fund the government next year when we get back into office and have power in the house of representatives. so it gives you little sense of the dynamic at play here. we have not seen any top line for this larger omnibus package, also haven't seen details about what this package is going to include. raeds on both sides of the aisle confident that they are going to get there. i do think like you mentioned at the top that the larger defense bill is a good line that lawmakers are feeling like they are in the holiday spirit and want to get back home soon. >> they don't want to miss their flights. lauren fox, thanks so much. all right. turning to a cnn exclusive, senate majority leader chuck schumer and nancy pelosi sat

down with jaimie gangel for the first ever joint interview. it spanned topics including former president trump, the future of the democratic party but also their thoughts on biden's 2024 bid. >> you're stepping aside. do you think president biden should step aside for a younger generation? >> i think president biden has done an excellent job as president of the united states. i hope that he does seek reelection. >> do you think he should run again? >> yeah, he's done an excellent, excellent job and if he runs i'm going to support him all the way. >> no better place for a political interview than over chinese food. dana bash joins me to talk about this this morning. pretty strong endorsements from schumer and pelosi there. had we been talking two months ago, i think we were talking two months ago about this that the democratic party was at a minimum tenuous about a biden 2024 bid. midterm elections seemed to have

changed that. >> yes, and it is even more interesting to hear it come from nancy pelosi, which is obviously the way that our colleague jamie gangel asked her the question because she is in her early '80s, a bit older than joe biden. she's stepping down. if they won the majority, the democrats, i'm not so sure that she would be stepping down. >> for sure. >> it really speaks to -- you're right, the change in the feeling about the president among democrats. i wouldn't call it a sea change, though. when it comes to his policies, when it comes to his accomplishments, sure. there is still real concern about the fact that he's 80 years old. i know it seems to anger him and it's understandable that it does because he says he feels like he's up for it, but that is part of the conversation and that is what he's going to have to prove to the american people, both in a campaign and of course after

that if he -- if he -- or in the last two years of his term, i should say. >> on that 80 age issue i had heard that dr. jill biden was going to be the one, if anyone, who would say, do you know what, time to move on, but our kate bennett, our colleague's report is that she's on board now. is that effectively at least in terms of the decision-making that effectively removed as a decisive issue. >> that seems to be the strongest signal yet that i plan to run comments from the president will quickly in the new year turn into i am running. maybe, you know, the state of the union address is usually the end of january, beginning of february, wouldn't be surprising if it was sometime around that, maybe after that. >> coming soon. all right. you sat down with the new hampshire governor, chris sununu, moderate republican, granted one of few who publicly will come out and say trump should not be the future of the republican party. i wonder, i mean, listen, a lot

of folks say that privately, publicly is different. did he convey to you how he plans to make that a reality? >> he's working on t he's working on it already. and what i try to do in this series is take the people who we know from hard-hitting interviews that you do, that we all do and sort of top of the news and get behind what really makes them tick and who they are. we know that he is somebody who has been very outspoken at times about the fact that he thinks that donald trump is wrong headed, more so now and you will see that in the interview, but the other thing that he told me was that he almost died last year, which i didn't realize he had a health scare that was that serious. listen to him describe it. >> i thought i had covid and i was just exhausted all day for about a week and then i thought, yeah, the holiday weekend of labor day of '21 is coming up, i better get checked out. sure enough i had been bleeding

inside all week. i had a bleeding ulcer, i only had about a third of my blood levels the way they should be and they had to start the transfusions immediately and, again, i thought i had the flu or covid, the next thing i know i got four transfusions over the period of 24 hours. they saved me, it was great, but -- >> saved you like -- >> yeah. well, they said ultimately you probably just would have fallen asleep and not woken up and you would have never known because i was bleeding out essentially. so it was kind of scary because, you know, i'm 47, i like to consider myself like 26, but i am 47. >> 47 is young to have a health scare like that. >> it is. you have to manage your stress. everybody does. >> i was going to say you know what ulcers tend to be from, right? >> i know. look, it's a stressful job and we had just come through the covid pandemic and i think we did great. >> it affected you physically? >> yeah. >> you saw we were in the woods there, one of the things that he likes to do is hike. he actually as a young man after

graduating from college hiked the entire appalachian trail, it took him five months. so talking about what happened to him, again, just last year, it really seems to have put things in perspective for him and it begs the question of whether or not he wants to run for higher office, leave his beloved new hampshire and, boy, does he love new hampshire. he says even to a fault. but he's very committed to trying to redirect his party, the republican party, which he is very candid about being totally off course right now. >> those moments could be life changing, right? dana bash, thanks so much. for all of you please don't miss the full cnn special "being chris sununu" it will start tonight at 10:00 of course only on cnn. still ahead, more explosions rocking ukraine as a ukrainian official says 76 missiles -- russia fired 76 missiles at cities across the country today. that's just so far. we will take you live to kyiv

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targets. ukrainian officials say preliminary data from the attacks suggest that russia fired some 76 missiles into the country. the missiles killed two people, but they are also damaging critical infrastructure which then impacts civilians' lives. in response the u.s. ambassador to ukraine tweeted, quote, ukraine will prevail. noting that emergency repair equipment from the u.s. and the west has now arrived there. cnn's senior international correspondent will ripley joins us now from kyiv. i wonder, tell us what the situation is like there today. >> reporter: jim, the city military administration here in kyiv says that this capital city of ukraine has survived one of the most massive missile attacks it has faced since the beginning of the full scale war. they say russia fired 40 missiles and they shot down 37 here in kyiv. we did hear explosions earlier today, the air ride sirens went off. cnn staffers living closer to the scenes of explosions said they heard the sound of

ukrainian air defense shooting down presumably dozens of missiles headed towards the ukrainian capital. we are not allowed to go to the actual scene of these attacks because the targets we believe are civilian power infrastructure, power stations and whatnot, but i'm standing here in the square and you can see behind me some of the destroyed military vehicles from the beginning of this war that is going on almost ten months. now, this means that undoubtedly there are millions of people across ukraine because these missile strikes didn't just target kyiv, millions of people have been plunged into the dark and the cold. there are actually entire cities, including kharkiv that is correct at one point were reported to be entirely without power. that's also the situation down in kherson where they've been the target of constant shelling in recent days. there have been huge explosions reported in russia opened territories to the east in donetsk as well. as far as missile attacks go, not only hitting kyiv but odesa and kharkiv and the ukrainians are certainly worried about the well-being of their children. in recent days unicef put out a report saying the physical and

mental health of nearly every single ukrainian health is at risk because of this russian bombardment. >> that's no accident, that's russia trying to inflict suffering on the ukrainian people. thanks so much. right now a quick look at wall street, markets opening down. the dow down now just around 200 points, this comes a day after sharp declines yesterday. the dow lost some 765 points, the s&p down 2.5% at the close, nasdaq also sinking more than 3%. cnn chief business correspondent christine romans joins me now. looks like the markets don't like the combination of data they're seeing, which is one slowing, say, retail sales, signs of a slowing economy, but also the fed saying, do you know what, we're not done with interest rate rises. are there worries about a hard landing. >> look, we are in a huge transition here, right, and the fed has been jacking up interest rates, seven this year, and that is something that has weighed on

the stock market all year, to be fair. we're looking into next year, we know the fed is saying they expect half a percentage point growth. basically near a stall in the u.s. economy for next year and the unemployment rate to rise to 4.6%. can i put this in perspective? i like to step back and take the big picture. a tough month, down 4% for the major stock averages this month. when you look for the year we're on track for more than 18% down on the s&p 500. that would reverse a 26% gain last year. just look at the last three years, three very big years of gains over the past five years, the s&p 500 is up 45%, that's great. this year you're giving a big chunk of that back because of this new reality. the fed is trying to choke off inflation without tilting the u.s. economy into recession and we don't know if that's going to happen and as you know uncertainty is the kryptonite to investors. so that has been a real tough sell for the stock market. that's what we're dealing with

here. >> let me ask you this, when you talk to folks on wall street, the fed missed inflation last year. >> yep. >> they were slow to get on this, they denied it was happening. by the way, on wall street a lot of cheap money for too long. when you speak to folks are they wore creed that the fed is now going too hard on interest rates? right? to sort of like make up for it all i suppose. >> yes, you've heard that from from folks. there are others who say the fed has been just too late and we don't know how this is going to play out next year. others say that's a lot of medicine, that's going to come -- it's a wall of tightening that will hit sometime next year as the economy is slowing. that's one of the reasons you have those calls for a recession sometime next year. jim, no one knows what's going to happen. there's no playbook for this. we have low unemployment, a consumer still relatively strong, we were concerned about that most recent november retail sales number, but overall we're in better shape today than

2008-2009. there's just -- anything could happen next year, quite honestly. so that's -- that's why stock investors are concerned. they like certainty, we don't have certainty. >> and they've been swinging, too, because they were up a lot for a few weeks as folks thought a soft landing was coming. they don't know. christine romans, you will know first, i'm confident of that. thanks for joining us this morning. >> have a good weekend. still ahead, could rudy giuliani's work to overturn the 2020 election get him disbarred? details from a disciplinary hearing that could make that a reality. young lady who was,

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eastern u.s. are now under winter storm warnings heading into the weekend. the powerful system that spawned tornadoes across the south is threatening to bring ice and snowstorms from the an lattch a latch ens to new england. it's been mostly rain in d.c., we haven't seen ice. they salted all the roads but that didn't happen. do we expect it to be worse up north? >> well, the ice is gone, this is now a rain or a snow event. there's not much mix in between. but it's hard to believe, jim, that we were talking about 60 inches of snow in soda springs, california, on monday and this same storm hasn't left the united states yet and we are going to see significant snow across the northeast. winter storm warnings, as you said, great snow to go play in, i guess, if you can get there and do it safely, but hour after

hour continuous snowfall coming down across parts of the interior new england and upstate new york eventually even buffalo gets to pick up -- especially south towns -- will pick up lake-effect snow as the cold air rushing behind it. inches and in some spots feet of snow will be coming down across parts of killington and some of those places where you can actually go play until the snow, but behind it much colder air, in chicago, cleveland, if you don't like the 20s and 30s don't go to minneapolis on thursday, it never gets above zero for the high temperature. that's how cold this air mass is, jim. >> that's cold. chad myers -- >> yes, it is. >> i would have taken the snow over just a drenching 12 hours -- 12 hours of rain is what we got. maybe we will get some later in the season. always good to have you on. >> good to see you. well, three would be domestic terrorists will spend

years in prison after they were found guilty in a 2020 plot to kidnap michigan governor gretchen whitner. two must serve a minimum of 12 years and seven years respectively for providing material support for a terrorist act as well as other charges. the alleged commander of the group joseph morrison will serve a minimum of 11 years in prison. governor whitmer says the sentencing sends, quote, a powerful signal. a story we followed for some time. today another story, rudy giuliani potentially one step closer to losing his law license. a disciplinary board in washington, d.c. said thursday that giuliani should be liable for professional sanctions after making repeated false election fraud claims while representing the former president trump, his campaign in 2020, as well as his efforts to overturn the election. that ruling is nonbinding, but a significant step that could eventually lead to giuliani being disbarred. the ethics charges are focused on a lawsuit by the trump

campaign in pennsylvania that sought to throw out hundreds of thousands of votes in the state. joining me now to discuss elie honig former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. good to have you on. >> hey, jim. >> so this took place, of course, january 6, we are coming up on two years now and it was very public, his comments in court and elsewhere. it seems like a slow process to get to where we are, but is that normal, one? and what do you expect the final outcome to be here? >> it is normal, jim. these processes to potentially disbar a lawyer tend to take time. there may be a glass house effect where lawyers wondering where do we draw the line here. rudy giuliani has had his law license suspended in new york for essentially lying to court, it's not final yet, and now things seem to be at least heading that direction with respect to his d.c. law license as well.

the gist is this, i didn't mean jim, as a lawyer you are allowed to make creative arguments, even losing arguments, but what you cannot do is go into a court and lie and give facts that you claim are facts that are utterly false and that's the essence of the charges against rudy here. >> we will see what the outcome is. another big thing we're watching, the january 6 committee says it will now release its report on monday. as you know and we've discussed many times on this broadcast you have the january 6 investigative track, that's coming to an end here, you have the doj investigative track and that's still very much going on. what do you expect to be the outcome of the committee's report and does the evidence they gathered at all influence or could be used, you know, access for the doj's own investigation? >> jim, i see this as a handoff of sorts from the january 6th committee over to doj, over to prosecutors. look, the committee has done its job, they are just about out of business, next week will be their final act. they've done a remarkable job, i

think, of uncovering facts that we did not know before about the attack. now, that's all they can do for the most part is make recommendations. if there's to be real consequences then it's got to come from doj. will influence prosecutors? i don't think politically the fact that the january 6th committee is apparently going to make referrals, i don't think that will influence prosecutors. it should not. but the substance will. the evidence will. we will read that report, you can bet doj will read that report and all the evidence in there is fair game for prosecutors to use. >> final question is timing. the former president has already announced his candidacy for 2024, we expect the sitting president, perhaps, to announce next year. we are into the 2024 presidential election campaign here. what kind of time pressure, if any, does that put on the doj to come to the decision on whether it's going to indict perhaps a candidate for public office here? >> the reality is there's immense time pressure, jim. you know i've been critical of doj for in my view taking too long to the get to the point where they're aiming at the

power sources. it's clear they've gotten there over the past several months. i do think that the introduction of jack smith as special counsel has made a difference, even in the three and a half weeks or so since he took over, you can see that the pace has remained fast, has even accelerated in some respects. he is a former federal prosecutor who practiced in brooklyn and d.c. so the indicators i'm seeing is that jack smith understands there is an imperative here. the closer we get to the 2024 election the more fraught this gets. time is of the essence. >> ealy honing, thanks so much as always. >> thanks, jim. all right. well, republican congressman adam kinzinger range alarm bells in his last speech on the house floor. he used his farewell address to slam members of his own party saying that many of them had embraced lies and deceit when faced with false claims about the 2020 election. here is just part of what he said. >> had i known that standing up for truth would cost me my job,

friendships and even my personal security, i would, without hesitation, do it all over again. i can rest easy at night knowing that i fulfilled my oath to the office. i know many in this institution cannot do the same. unfortunately we now live in a world where lies trump truth. where democracy is being challenged by authoritarianism. if we america's elected leaders do not search within ourselves for a way out, i fear that this great experiment will fall into the ash heap of history. >> he is of course not alone in that view. in his own party kinzinger will play a role in the final hearing of the january 6th committee on monday and cnn's special coverage of that hearing, when we expect to see this report, will begin at noon. still ahead, police in moscow, idaho, say they have now identified a pattern in an onslaught of tips about those

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say they're combing through some 22,000 registered white hyundai elantras like the one you see here. why? well they say a car just like that may be connected to the murders of the four university of idaho college students. have a listen. >> through our tips, through our leads, some of the evidence that

came in, we started to identify patterns and like we said earlier, we are confident that the occupant or occupants of that vehicle have information that is critical to this investigation. >> joining me now, criminology and attorney dr. casey jordan. good to have you on this morning. >> good morning, jim. >> so that is interesting. the first time we've heard police say that they've discovered a pattern when they find impactful. you've noted that as well because it is the first time you've heard them use those terms. why is that significant to you? what do you think it means? >> identifying patterns and also hearing in the same sentence that their confident and that the information is critical is the first thing we've heard in a month that gives us hope they might be closing in on a person of interest. and the patterns and they mentioned two things. that the tips from people are helping. and they have been working hirelessly to check out all of the door bell camera and security footage and other

technology. things like cell phone pings, license plate readers, if they use that technology. they are what we call triangulating, getting consistencies to hone in on this white hyundai elantra. the problem is nationwide there are 22,000 of thoem so now they need to -- >> but that is nationwide. this is idaho. do they have ways to zero in on this? and i wonder, those door bell cameras, cctv cameras, they could be high resolution. could they capture other indicators from that car including a license plate or other marks, et cetera, that might also help narrow it down is this. >> well i think if they have the license plate number they would have released that immediately. but we have to keep in mind, that the 22,000, jim, they're going to start with the parking permits issued to students and

employees and vendors and commuters. and there is a lot of them. let's see if there is any hyundai elantra. but the key is you don't start with the vicinity because students come in a neighboring state and they come in a car that registered so their participants. but if they get a parking ticket you could get the vehicle information. and i know it is rural and they don't have things like we do on the east coast like license plates readers and easy pass tolls, all of the electronic evidence to just narrow it down and they are appealing to the public and they want to know, do you know somebody with a white hyundai in the area november 13th. that is going to help a lot. >> and maybe you just have the color of the license plate and it gives you a state indicator. a lot of ways this he could go. quickly, police initially said they believe this killing was targeted. you've said before in a might n

-- you've said before that might not be the case. you have seen anything that would read either way. >> if-t would make sense that the killer was in the inner circle. but however after a month, there could be -- they would have narrowed down the fact that it would be obvious. someone that was a stalker or have a vendetta against one of the students. and the nature of the killing is some -- that you don't see very often. you see think about ted bundy and btk and joseph duncan. these are out liars. these does indicate somebody in the sinn circle. maybe this is a potential serial killer, someone who had a done it before and might do it again and then we have to think nationwide which is why they are saying it could be 22,000

hyundai elantra's out there. don't rule it out just because you live in idaho. >> thank you very much. as migrants cross the river from mexico, some of them sleeping on n the streets off e paso. we'll take you to the border live. vo: palantir software. empowers scuderia ferrari to make crical decisions a split second faster. palantir. data driven enterprise accelerator. good news! a new clinical study showed that centrum silver supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. the holidays were awkward for romeo and juliet.

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