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what do we know about these charges that are being considered? >> anderson, it's an important marker for a committee that's been working these many months. they've done hundreds of interviews with witnesses and gotten thousands and thousands of pages of transcripts. that's the big thing for the justice department, having these three referral charges, sh the insurrection, the interfering of the official proceeding of congress, and the defrauding of the united states are three charges that will probably be familiar for the justice department, especially the last two. we've seen people brought in among the nearly 1,000 defendants being charged with obstructing an official proceeding of congress. we also have seen the defrauding the united states charge in many, many instances. the one that is probably going to be a little bit problematic for prosecutors is the insurrection charge. it's a lot. it dates back to the

reconstruction era. it's not something there's a lot of case law for. for the justice department, anderson, they have their ongoing investigation. so, there's a lot of things they already are aware of. they're very, very, very interested in seeing the evidence this committee has turned out. >> what impact would it have on the justice department, if any? >> well, you know, it's important for congress, this bipartisan committee, to speak and to say what they have found as a result of their investigation. obviously there are people, former justice department prosecutors, who are working with this committee. so, it is quite possible that they found things that the justice department has not found. and, you know, we heard from merrick garland, the attorney general, just recently. and i asked him about these transcripts that they've been asking for. that is one of the most important parts of this because, you know, certainly they have their own investigation. but they want to see what some of these witnesses have said to the committee independently. >> evan, stay with us, because i want to bring in elliott

williams and also cnn political commentator scott jennings. elliott, while the referrals from the committee would not be legally binding obviously, how does the justice department treat them, and do you agree with evan's reporting that essentially they'd be most interested in the transcript? >> absolutely. anderson, you or i or any viewer can make a referral to the justice department if we believe that a crime has been committed. that's one of the beautiful things of free speech and an open government here. congress has the ability to investigate. they have more reach than you or i do. so, that's what they're doing. they're engaging in the act. they're bringing things to the justice department's attention. we'll review it, see it, consider it maybe. but at the end of the day the decision of whether to proceed with charges all comes down to whether the justice department believes they can win -- convince a jury of the facts

that are charged beyond a reasonable doubt. that's it. and while it's beautiful and compelling and persuasive and there might be a nice report from congress, at the end of the day it doesn't have equal weight. >> elliott, when it comes to the three charges the committee is expected to announce, how serious are they? >> insurrection is very, very serious. that's why it's been charged so few times in american history. and even if you remember the clive and lundy, the rancher in nevada, who literally took arm against the u.s. government, was not charged with insurrection. the other two, you have a path to charging the president or others around him, obstructing congress with the intent to do and conspiracy to defraud the united states. those last two i talked about have a five-year maximum sentence, which doesn't sound like a lot. it's five years in prison. it's a sear crime. it's obstructing the laws of the country. >> scott, do you think this

committee, making referral, do you think that hurts the justice department? >> i do actually. i think that it's a political statement. i think we were always destined to wind up here given who's on the committee and also given what we saw with our own two eyes on january 6th. as elliott said, there's really nothing to this as it relates to what the justice department has to do. there is some politics involved in this. and i assume committee members will be out there making very political statements. so, it strikes me that this does throw a few rocks in the bag of the department of justice, as it explains to the american people if they end up charging donald trump, it will cause some folks to say, oh, you just did it because the congress asked you to do it. that may not be true, but that's what it might look like. i think this was always going to happen. and as it relates to the politics of it, it adds obviously to donald trump's ongoing political woes because it's a few more rocks in his own bag that he's bdragging around s

he tries to get his campaign off the ground. >> do you think it hurts him one way or another? >> i think it's a reminder for republicans if we nominate him for a third time, how hard it's going to be to beat the numbers he got in the election. that was before january 6th and before being possibly charged with crimes around january 6th. i think it's a reminder to republicans it's going to be really hard for him to win the national popular vote and not sort of accidentally trip into the white house like he did in 2016. and that's why i think you're seeing other candidates who are not carrying that kind of baggage, like desantis. >> how much do we know about where the doj's investigation stands at this time? >> we've seen a lot of activity from the grand jury, the one in washington, that is working on this part of the trump investigations. remember there's two, right? the special counsel is now overseeing two trump-related investigations. one of course is the documents

that were found at mar-a-lago. but the other one, which has to do with the effort of the former president and people around him to impede the transfer of power, that one has been ongoing for some time. and there are parts of it that are in quite an advanced stage. you know, certainly the parts that relate to john eastman and jeffrey clark, two of the key figures who were trying to help trump get the whole excuse of vote fraud and try to obstruct the transfer of power. so, those two investigations are in quite an advanced stage. so, we could probably see something very soon on those. as far as trump is concerned, however, it does appear just from the subpoenas we've seen issued just in the last few days, that the prosecutors still have a ways to go to try to understand his role in direct activity with those states, right, trying to get to overturn their election results and to seek these fake electors that

would have kept the former president in power even though he lost the election. >> and elliott, if what's been reported is true that part of the former president's reasoning to launch his campaign when he did, which he's not really doing any campaigning since then. but one of the reasons he may have launched it when he did was in part because he thought it might shield him legally. does it? i mean, obviously the doj will say, no, we're -- that will have no impact on us. but just from a response of other people, does it help the president to be running for president? >> now, it doesn't shield him legally. it probably forced the attorney general's hand in appointing a special counsel. now, as i said on the program, the attorney general could still have overseen the investigation without appointing a special counsel. but needless to say, it probably forced the attorney general's hand to take away this question of political interference, putting a thumb on the scale of

the president's candidacy, right? it doesn't change anything legally. now, right before an election for maybe the 60 days prior to election day, they would not -- justice department would not indict or issue a search warrant for a candidate's house once somebody had identified himself as a candidate. but beyond that, all the investigative steps, any arrests, any indictment can still happen of a candidate for office. >> scott, just because a special counsel has been named, that certainly didn't stop the former president from attacking the last time there was a special counsel. you know, the rules don't -- the regular rules do not apply to him. >> although we're starting to see political gravity take effect. in cnn's polling, polling from t "wall street journal" and others, you see a cascade of numbers showing him in decay among americans. not that they don't like him anymore. they just realize nominating him for the third time would be

ludicrous. can anyone oents panel think of the last good political day donald trump had? i'll wait. it was the day he got over covid and the day that he probably defeated joe biden in the third presidential debate right before he lost the election. every day, every week, every month since then, has been one day, week, month, worse than the one before. and if he gets indicted here, it's going to be another bad day. so, they have been on a string of losses as it relates to his own political standing within the country and within his own party. >> e just let me add real quick, there is a political reality that merrick garland and the justice department have to pay attention to which is, if they are going to do something, the political season, certainly the presidential race, is going to start picking up next year. you know, certainly i think if you're going to have a trial, it takes about a year, year and a half in d.c. to get through that. so, if you're starting to back

track, you know, say midsummer of 2024, you kind of have to make decisions certainly by the spring of next year. >> evan perez, scott jennings, appreciate it. thank you. just ahead, nick paton walsh in ukraine meeting with ukrainians. dozens more russian rockets were launched against the country today. and more on harry and meghan markle and how they firsrst cam together.

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of 76 russian missiles fired were intercepted can only lift spirits so far. particularly in the bitter cold of the second biggest city kharkiv hit especially hard friday. the power did go off for a while, leaving locals gathered around what source of food or heat the state could provide. this called an invincibility point, an aspiration, not a promise. three died, a 64-year-old woman and a young couple whose infant son remains under the frozen rubble, say it is governor. here, the woman's father having just learned she was pulled from the rubble. but in all of this, the threat or fear worse could come from this direction, belarus, to ukraine's north, where russian troops train feverishly. ukraine's top brass loudly warning of a possible move on

kyiv from this direction in the weeks ahead. they have aimed and missed before. but still, the kremlin does not stop. nick paton walsh, cnn, london. more now what life is like living under the threat of these deadly constant missile attacks and the freezing cold, kristine is an artist and ambassador for the u.n. sustainable development goals. her organization helps with delivery of humanitarian aid to locations around the country. they're difficult to reach because of the conflict. christina, can you talk to us a little bit about what you are seeing, especially for kids? what is life like right now in ukraine? >> anderson, thank you for having me on the show. well, it's hell that you live in every day. and i, as an american, and my family, my 7-year-old son, made this conscientious decision to remain here and to try to help ukraine and ukrainians until the end. so, on the third day of war, we have opened a base and a storage

in the town of boar love ka in western ukraine, probably the most safe region in ukraine, where people can find safety, so to speak. and we have 5,000-plus internally displaced people to car ev kharkiv, doe hence k regions. we have to do that without heat, without lek tristy, without water. kids, you can see right now here are idp kids, internally displaced kids from mariupol, kharkiv. they are packing boxes at our store for other kid thars at the

front lines right now living and struggling. so, they're working, as they work with candles because there's no light in the storage. no heat. they're all dressed up. you know, we pray that the world and united states will support and continue to support ukraine. and right now, help is needed more than ever because it's not the war between russia and ukraine. it's the war against tyranny, terrorism, and the western values. and it became very clear. and as an american, i think we have to stand for what is right. we have to stand up. >> what is that the kids are getting who are the front that those kids -- the kid who is have come who are internally displaced, who are working as little elves to pack presents, what do the kids get? >> well, we send warm clothing. we send food.

we send hygiene because that is highly needed right now. a big lack of that. we send whatever we can in terms of electricity support. so, right now we're trying to gather plans, for example, for power stations, cycle flows, generators, rechargeable lamps, cookers. so, whatever could help them to survive this cold and dark winter, because indeed it's going to be a horrible winter to survive. >> if conditions get worse in ukraine, could you see a scenario where you and your organization have to leave, work in other parts of europe? >> i try not to think of that. on the first day of the full invasion, my husband and my 7-year-old son, who was 6 then, who is an american, we made that decision. and no matter how hard it is, we went through everything and we will continue going through everything. we just cannot abandon those

kids. we cannot abandon pregnant women. we had women giving birth on the way from mariupol to our base. so, we have miracle mariupol babies now. for me to say, guys, you are on your own and i'm leaving, you know, that's a treason. it's like announcing russia a terrorist state and not acting upon it. that's the height of hypocrisy. >> i know we have individual yoef kids singing. where is this from? and also where can people find out more about your organization to help? >> this is our storage actually. so, as they warm up and they work with candles stacking boxes for the front lines for other kids, they sing a ukrainian carol, you know, "carol of the bells," that we all know is the famous one. and our site is the site of our organization is ffunhelpua.org. my name is christina. you can always find me via site or social media, and i'll be

very happy to respond. we're looking for any support, help, and we're accountable as a u.n. organization for every dollar received. and you know, you know that you will go to the right destination because we showcase every delivery. and here you can see a girl with her mother preparing dolls and presents that we're sending to the kids at the front line. they have no lights, so they're working with candlelight and singing the carol. >> i so aappreciate what you're doing. thank you so much. >> thank you. and god bless you. i just want to remind americans, my fellow americans, what christmas is all about. you know, it's not about a new sweater or returning gifts that you don't like. give a gift that will continue giving. these kids need your help. they need love and care. and right now, a generator is the greatest gift they can hope for. thank you. >> appreciate it. thank you. just ahead, american college

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some good news in a story we've been following. the family of an american college student missing in france says he is safe tonight. there are still a lot of questions about what he has been doing. ken p kenny deland was last seen in november. he's a senior at st. john's fisher university. now to the still unsolved

must ri of the four students killed near the university of idaho last month. four families going through the holidays without their loved ones, without any answers. investigators are sorting through a list of 22,000 hyundai elantras, one of which could provide a critical break in the case. joining me is john walsh, of "america's most wanted." john, it's good to see you. this case, it's been over a month. authorities have yet to name a suspect, find the murder weapon. what do you make of this? >> good to see you too, anderson. it's a heartbreaker. you know, first of all, my heart goes out to these families because now they've joined the oracle club i belong to, parents of a murdered child. and it's the worse thing you can imagine, and you need answers and you want answers. people critical of the people, i would say, withhold it.

this is a small police department. they may be keeping some things back that they don't want the public to know. they don't tell parents most of the time because parents will tell other people and could blow the case, especially if they have a suspect. so, i think the best thing they did was call in for help, bring people in. and maybe it got messed up when all the cars were coming through. they could have got tire tracks. they could have got this and that. but there's a few things i hope they did do, anderson. and that in the car is crucial. but it's no good until you get a partial plate. if you get a piece of a partial plate, one numeral, we have a thing called auto track. we could find out who it belonged to. and there's not many cameras in that town. might be one of the fewest camera towns in the united states. but nobody seems to have a clean shot of the car. i also say this, don't let that car be the red herring. you and i covered the beltway sniper, if you remember that, anderson. they kept saying, he's in a white van. i kept saying, no, he's ditched

that van by now. he was in a brown sedan that he shot out of the trunk. when my son, adam, was missing, a couple of witnesses thought a horrible pedophile jumped into a blue car. and when they caught him, he was driving a white cadillac. i say the car might bay red herring. use your resources on something else. i hope they've interviewed every sex offender in the counties around there, every peeping tom, every rapist, et cetera. and dna -- you and i have talked about dna for years, anderson, and the advancements are fantastic. now we have touch dna. touch dna is if the perp rubs his finger on a blanket. we never used to have that. you had to have biological fluids nouchlt we have touch dna. we have familial dna. i remember when we were looking

for familial dna, i was looking for a guy named the grim sleeper. he went underground, came back out, started to kill women. his son got caught -- his son was a dirt bag, got caught with the gun, they took the gun and it matched up in codis. so, we got the grim sleeper because his son was a dirt bag and familial dna is working good. the best thing is it's a horrible bloody place. nowadays, they've hooked up the different states where they have their own dna databases not about the person. they have it about the crime scene. so, what they do is they put it into the computer. and, you know, you're not in codis unless you've been a convicted felon. but this takes the dna at the crime scene and matches it with other unsolved cases at other crime scenes. so, if this guy's been in other states, he's somewhere else, it opens up a big lead. i'm hoping it opens up a new

page to keep looking for this creep. >> a crime like this, i mean, you know, you have a number of young people in a house, is it likely they knew the person? >> you know, here's a couple things. i've been mulling this over and mulling it over. probably they did. i mean, to me, it's a psychopath, violent, dangerous person. might have been rejected by one of those girls, one of those creeps that has never been on a date, et cetera. but they may also know them. and i was thinking back when we taught the b.t. killer, when we caught the grim sleeper, these were people that lived right in the neighborhood and never ran, even with all the heat on them and all the problems, all the cops looking everywhere, those two guys never left their houses. they just stayed in the area and they knew their victims, not all of their victims. but i think everyone wants to think that this guy took off and he's somewhere else. i hope he took off and i hope we get a suspect because then i'll

go to work and try to catch him. but he could still be in the area. and i say to the -- i wish this chief of police would stress safety more than anything. this is a psychopath. he's angry. he's mad. and he's bloodiest crime scene these cops have ever seen. if he's still in the area, two girls walking home from the dorm in a bar is not going to stop a 200 pound guy with a knife who wants to kill someone else. they should be on red alert. there's so many tools, anderson, that i hope -- and it takes forever. that dna i told you about, the touch dna, that takes forever. gou to other databases, codis compares with other databases. maybe they'll come up with a couple of crime scenes. if this guy has been arrested, his dna is not in codis. >> john walsh, i appreciate talking to you. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. coming up, brittney griner opening up about her freedom from russia after ten months in custody. we'll look at the basketball star's future next.

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griner is finally home tonight in arizona. it is the last leg of her journey to freedom after 300 days in russian custody. abby phillip joins us with where things stand after that dramatic prisoner swap. what more have you learned? >> brittney griner is now home in arizona. he's beginning the this process of restarting her life. this has been a week for her of a lot of reunions with family, a basketball even this past weekend. there's been some of her favorite food, even a haircut to clean up what her friends were calling her russian fade, when she cut off her dreadlocks while in prison in russia. but the fact that she is going home today, went home today, is a sign to people around her that she is feeling good. she is ready to go back to her normal life. and one key thing about this statement, it's the first time we're really hearing directly from her.

she wanted to make it clear that not only was she incredibly grateful to everyone who was involved in her release, including to president biden and many, many others, but she wanted to issue a statement about paul whelan, the other american who is still in detention in russia. she said in her statement that she is going to do everything that she can to make sure that both paul and other americans are freed. and she encouraged everyone to do so as well, knowing, i think, that there are obviously some efforts out there to divide on this issue, for people who supported griner being released to not supporting whelan released. i think it was important to her to make it clear that was going to be part of her future, but also that she is thinking about paul, who is still in russia. >> what do we know about her future plans? >> this is another key moment. i think i was a little surprised to learn that she would reveal this, but she said today she is

returning to the wnba in the spring to play for the phoenix mercury. that decision, i think, people had left it to her. she would decide whenever she wanted to. she would announce it whenever she wanted to. but she did it today, a clear statement that she's ready to be back on the court. anderson, it wasn't until this weekend that brittney griner picked up a basketball for the first time since she was detained in russia, and a lot of people wondered if she would even want to get back to the game. she clearly does. and i also learned today that as she got on that plane in san antonio to head home, she was greeted by one of her teammates and the president and general manager of the phoenix mercury. they were there on the plane to surprise her and to welcome her back. this team, the mercury, has been all-in behind her throughout this journey. so, it was really a kind of welcome home from basically family at this point, as she headed back to rejoin her life. >> abby phillip, i appreciate the update.

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prince harry and meghan markle's netflix series has been met with skepticism. a decrease in the couple's popularity rating. i also found most brits thought releasing the series was a bad idea. the series focuses on the path they had toward marriage and parenthood. >> reporter: she was a hollywood actress. he was a prince. worlds apart until they fell in love. meghan markle told "vanity fair" magazine she and prince harry were introduced by a friend at harry's request. they first met in london in july 2016. and soon, their shared love of philanthropy became apparent. >> i am tremendously honored to be the advocate for participation and leadership. i am proud to be a woman and a feminist. >> reporter: when they first

met, meghan markle was divorced and living in toronto, where she had filmed her hit tv show, "suits." still they travelled together to botswana, where their relationship blossomed. within months, the british press began reporting on the romance, despite the couple's efforts to keep i quiet. chatter about engagement heated up after markle quit her job on the tv show. another clue, markle's tea with the queen, her first introduction to the monarch. and pictures with her dogs in london started showing up in the british press. in september 2017, they gave their a few weeks after that they appeared to together in public for the first time as a couple holding hands at the invictus games, an even prince harry organized to benefit wounded veterans.

in november 2017 the couple got engaged at their cottage at kensington palace. they shared the details with the bbc. >> a cozy night, just roasting chicken. and it just -- just an amazing surprise. it was so sweet and natural and very romantic. he got on one knee. >> it was a really nice moment. it was just the two of us, and i think i managed to catch her by surprise. >> yes. as a matter of fact i could barely let you finish proposing. >> the couple showed off meghan's engagement ring which prince harry designed. >> the little diamond on the side is from my mother's jury collection. >> reporter: in may 2018 they got married inside st. george's chapel at windsor castle. among those in attendance david and victoria beckham, george and

amall clooney, and serena williams. thousands more lined the streets. but as markle revealed to oprah the two of them had been married days earlier in a private ceremony. >> no one knows that but we called the archbishop and said this spectacle is for the world, but our views are just for the two of us. >> reporter: they traveled the world before announcing in october 2018 they were expecting their first child. archie harrison mount batten windsor was born in may, 2018, happier times before the royals split. >> in prince harry and meghan markle's netflix series in the final episodes harry says he was being blocked from meeting the queen to discuss their future

and meghan says her private secretary warned things wouldn't go smoothly. kate, you've been covering the royal family for a long time. how damaging do you think these allegations are? >> i think they have the potential to be very damaging. we have a vision here of an institution whose working practices are dysfunctional. and also a family that's falling apart. and i think people are going to be watching this particularly young people, people of color, people across the commonwealth saying if this is what happens to a woman of color who marries into the royal family that she has to exit, that she feels unsafe, how relevant is the royal family to me? king charles is an early reign and doesn't have the popularity of his mother i think this has the potential to knock his popularity ratings quite low.

>> how do you think the british public is going to square that? >> well, there's a difference in the british public and the british newspaper. obviously they have sued many newspapers at the moment and have been doing so, but i think there is a ground swell of sympathy for them in the british public, and certainly as you say it's taxpayer funded. they are to a degree accountable to the taxpayer, and the reason for the monarchy existing is the concerns of the people both in britain and the other countries of which the monarchy is head of state and the commonwealth. and i think people will certainly be asking quite serious questions. these allegations we saw that actually the palace controlled the wildfire of stories many that had racist things to say about meghan but there are also stories being leaked and stories being believed, and harry

suggested this was because some royals were jealous of meghan. these were serious allegations and i think eventually they'll have to be answered for. i know they're not doing so at noemt, but i think eventually questions will be asked and the royals will have to make some kind of answer. whether it's through sources i don't know. >> max, it's so interesting because we were all covering the death of the queen a few months ago, and clearly harry and meghan were given very prominent roles, whether that was to try to forestall this or not, is there any going back? i mean is there any -- certainly doesn't seem like in the near-term, but do you think there's one day the chance of some sort of reconciliation? >> i think the big problem they've got here is the lack of trust now. can william have a frank conversation with harry without it leaking to the media through the sussex media platforms?

that's the big concern. you've exposed so much about the family, you've made these big accusations. how do they rebuild? i mean around the funeral we did say, you know, the prince and princess of wales were with meghan and harry. and it did look like a moment of unity, but i think it was done for the queen and the nation to come together in this crisis. behind the scenes certainly in the days after that i didn't get a sense they were talking to each other at all. you see harry conceding they're looking to the future and they're not looking back and they're not going to fix things. >> the news continues here on cnn but first dana bash and her hour long special.l. we're back after a short break. with a n new ride.

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