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what's it like being governor of a critical swing state? one big in an otherwise underwhelming election night for the gop. >> i see it as an opportunity. >> in a party conflicted about its identity. >> it's hard to tell someone the best opportunity for leadership is yesterday's leadership. >> could new hampshire's chris sununu have the answer? a busy dad. >> valery the kids keep it so real and grounded for me. >> who's defining his own role. a rising republican star who's managed to avoid the former president's ire even when speaking out against him. >> i'm just saying you can't say stuff like that and i'm going to push back. >> are you thinking about running for president in 2024? in this series we talk to people in politics and pop culture and

find out what it's like to be them. now "being chris sununu." we were just re-elected a republican governor in a purple state, so what's it like to be you right now given the fact you're a republican at a very interesting time for the gop? >> i see it as an opportunity. >> how? >> great opportunity. i think the opportunity is, you know, helping potential candidates, hopefully inspiring the next generation of republicans to step up. hopefully inspiring folks to realize it isn't as partisan as maybe the last few years have really been. it doesn't have to be that way and voters don't want it that way, so we have an opportunity to kind of embrace that and go forward with good republican conservative ideals to get more stuff done. >> the mid-term election was not the red wave a lot of republicans predicted. why? >> bad candidates. yeah, we did not have the right candidates that came out of a lot of our primaries, and i

think they lost sense of the priorities of the republican party, of the independent voter. the extremism, the election denial, all of that stuff. and i think the democrats did a wonderful job of predefining our candidates before they could introduce themselves. >> sununu defines himself in a way most republicans do not. where are you on the republican spectrum? >> all over the place. >> you say extreme, so how would you define yourself? >> i think i try to be as normal and genuine as i can be. i don't change my philosophies, change my principles or what i'm about, but i try to be very approachable and try to be databased. >> are you a moderate? >> on social issues i'm more moderate than other republicans. on fiscal issues i'm much more conservative and i'm very proud of that. >> he won a fourth term as governor of new hampshire by more than 15 percentage points, but all three federal gop candidates there lost. so the lesson is they were the

wrong candidates because they were too extreme? >> for this state, yes. absolutely, yeah. i mean i supported them. >> i know you did. >> candidates like election denier don -- who he did not support. but he backed the candidate in the general election. when we talked before the election sununu was confident. senate race. right now maggie hasan is ahead. what's your prediction? >> i think he wins. >> that's a bold prediction. >> not if you know the state. >> he lost by over 9 percentage points. when you and i talked in october you said that the republicans were going to win here. >> look, i totally misjudged that here. when you look at the polls there's no doubt inflation and

costs and energy are the number one concern of the voters, but what no poll ever asks you is your top issue extremism and fear of getting nothing done. that actually was the top issue for a lot of folks. and what they said was we need to fix these policies, but we have to fix the system first. we have to fix the machine, and we didn't have -- they didn't have faith these individuals would be a fix to that washington problem to get more stuff done. but there was just so much noise they had to combat with on some of their, you know, previous statements and what happened in the 2020 election. >> he says he wants to see his party move off that path away from lies and conspiracy theories embraced by the former president. many voters seem to agree. most of the candidates trump endorsed in key housing senate races lost in november. >> he did not have a very good record to be sure. >> what does that tell you? >> that he's not the influence he thinks he is. that's when the former president

announced he's running for president a week after the election everyone was like okay. >> i am announcing my candidacy for the president of the united states. >> he's announcing he's running for president at his most politically weak point. he's doing it from a point of weakness, from a point of whatever his own agenda is, but it's kind of a blip on the radar. there's an argument to be made he's not even the front-runner, right? >> sununu always had a unique relationship with trump, critical at times. >> we know the president has a tendency to speak in hyperbole and all that stuff. >> do you like to have the former president campaign with you in your re-election campaign in new hampshire? >> i don't need anyone on the campaign. >> donald trump does not confine chris sununu or even define the republican party. >> but he somehow managed to escape trump's counter punch. you managed to walk this line most republicans have not. how? >> you know, early on when he became president we made it

really clear both with him -- we had a relationship the white house, look, if he does things that deserves credit, i'll be the first one to stand up and give credit. but when he does things that i disagree with, i'm going to say that. >> chris sunusuis clarifying a comment he made over the weekend about former president trump. >> he made some comments that did raise a lot of eyebrows and got some headlines as well. >> you addressed a ballroom full of journalists and top washington elected officials in both parties, and you called donald trump [ bleep ] crazy. do you think he is effing crazy? >> it's a good joke. look, it's a roast let's be honest. >> part of a roast is that there's more than a grain of truth to a lot of what is said. do you think that's what he is? >> he has a style unto himself. i'm going to be as polite as i can be.

>> we are getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. >> the conspiracies, the frankly lies he pedalled about the election and then what happened on january 6th, is he fit to be president again? >> i just don't think he's going to be president again. >> but do you think he should be president again? >> no. because he -- he's done his time. he's done his service. we're moving on. we are as a country as a party, we want the next idea, we want the next generation, whatever it is. so to say we're going to be a country where the best opportunity for our future leadership is the leadership of yesterday, that's, frankly, un-american. we're just taking the next step. we're moving on. thank you for your service, we're moving on. >> thank you for a historic landslide victory! >> he even brought up florida governor ron desantis unprompted as a stronger potential candidate than trump. >> there's an argument to be made that someone like desanlt s could beat him in a primary today. >> do you think he could?

>> i think another candidate could. yeah, maybe, i don't know. i really don't know. >> would he be a good president? >> i think he would be a good president, sure. i think a lot of republican governors would be. >> do you think that he would be able to connect with voters the way you're describing? >> everyone connects with voters differently, right? i don't want to speak specifically to ron but he has his style, i have my style. >> every single vote matters and we saw huge turnout, everyone participating in the process. >> sununu is not shy in wanting to participate in reshaping his national party. >> look, i take a huge responsibility in a leadership message as i think most any republican governor does. in terms of making sure we are being positive and inspirational, talking about the right things, and hopefully that garners us back to where we need to be as a republican party as opposed to letting these more extreme elements hold those microphones. we don't want to see that happen

because that's not successful. and then through that process you see who can stand up and meet that message -- that can meet that challenge to be a leader with those qualities, those intangibles, those communication skills, those policies we want to see. >> but does sununu want to be the ultimate republican leader? >> look, i'm not trying to be coy, i'm really not -- >> you kind of are. >> more on that later. and up next. >> i brought some of these skeletons but all the stuff on the roof i made my hand. >> the governor gets on the roof and behind the wheel. that's because carvana had tens of thousands of cars under $20,000. so aaron's folks could help him out with a sweet ride. [aaron] no way. [narrator] yes way. with the most cars under $20,000 and our car vending machines, we'll drive you happy at carvana.

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being a sununu in new hampshire is all about the family business, politics. >> welcome. >> wow, so this is the governor's office. >> this is it. >> what's it like to be here as governor? you would run around here as a kid. >> it's the same place, everything is really the same. the portraits may be a little different or they've upgraded the furniture i suppose a little bit, but now it's really the same place. >> each day when he walks into his office at the statehouse he's greeted by a portrait of his father, former new hampshire governor john sununu. >> you're in that. you're back there, right? >> i'm in the left coat kneeling there there. if you zoom in you'll see how awkward i looked because again i'm an eighth grade boy at the

time. but i believe because of that this is the only portrait in america with two governors in it, which is kind of funny, right? >> not only are there two governors in the family, his older brother represented new hampshire in the house and senate from 1997 to 2009. big shoes to fill for chris, the seventh of eight kids. >> so when i first become governor i think one of my obvious first thoughts was, oh, boy am i going to be in the shadow? he has a great reputation and all that, a very smart guy. i do lean on him sometimes. i'll call on him and ask him a piece of advice. now, the sick is you've got to take his advice and say, wow, that was probably brilliant back in 1988. >> back when those computers were coming in. >> exactly. so how do i craft that to a 2022 message or policy? he was one of those connected to the constituency. he was very hands on. he spent so much time out of this office, and that was an amazing lesson i learned very early on.

>> because you watch that when you were young. >> watched it, participated in it, everything. >> in 1989 when he was 14 his father became white house chief of staff to president george h.w. bush. he remembers it as a tough time. >> he was governor, he left, you went to the washington, d.c. area. your eyes are getting big. >> it was not pleasant. it was different. i remember walking in my freshman year and kids are sitting at their lockers early morning waiting for class to start and they're reading "the washington post" and i'm like this is bizarreo world, but given my dad was at the center of those discussions it made a very awkward, a very tough time. and it never got quite unawkward. >> those headlines got tougher when his father became embroiled in controversy and eventually left the bush white house. >> i just wanted to have a girlfriend and go to a football game like any normal kid does, never mind try to deal with politics. if anything that's where i said, look, i'm never doing this

political thing. >> until he did. his office is the same one his dad used more than 30 years ago, but sununu says his political inspiration actually came from his other parent. >> my mom was on the school board i think before my dad even got involved in politics. i mean that was really my intro to politic. my mom would bring us over to the library, kelly library in salem, new hampshire. i'd sit on the floor and color and then would go. but that was the whole process. if you have eight kids here's a good idea, get on the school board. >> sununu and his wife valery are now raising three children of their own. he says he makes a point to build family time into his schedule, even hanging homemade halloween decorations. this is no joke. >> oh, yeah. >> this is pretty amazing. >> again, probably started a few years ago as a way of me just getting outside, a little therapy, if you will. i made a lot of it on my own. i bought some of these skel tons, but all the cemetery stuff

i made by hand, and i was trying to be handy to get my mind off that. >> the wood on the window. >> yeah. >> and this is your project. >> this is my thing. >> do you ever enlist the kids? >> yeah. they like it. they enjoy it. it's new england. everyone in new england loves halloween. i don't know, i'm sure someone could do some psychoanalysis on why the governor loves halloween and obsesses over -- >> your next therapy appointment get back to me and tell you what your therapist says. >> right here. >> hello. >> what's with the fourth term? >> 2024, are you kidding? >> no way. and there goes my political career. >> his youngest son leo is 9 years old, the same age he was when his dad was governor. >> are there things that you experienced that you said, oh, boy, i don't want him to go through that? >> yeah, yeah.

if they don't want to do a parade i don't make them go to a parade. >> did you have to go? >> yeah. but i don't mind it. i try to respect because of social media and all these pressures i didn't have, they don't have them. if they want to come to a cool event, great. and if not, that's cool, too. >> so you could walk in a parade in 1980 something and maybe it would be on the local news and that was it. now it's on everybody's -- >> social media, whatever. >> so they can't have anonymity. >> no, there's very little for a family. >> how does your family like you being governor? >> it's hard. they like it. i wouldn't say like or not like. maybe that's not the right word, but it's hard on them. especially during the pandemic it could be brutal at times. but i don't think either of us can truly appreciate what kids have to deal with. anything from bullying, sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly. it can come from students, it can come from teachers and come

from strangers. it can be based on something real, based on emotion. >> but they have a giant white hot spotlight on them because of who you are. >> i think almost anybody in my position does. >> your wife is very private. >> yes. >> which is understandable. >> it's great. i love she's private because it helps keep my grounded. if valerie and the kids wanted to go to everything with me you'd just be governor 24/7 and your head could get lost in the clouds. but valerie and the kids keep it so grounded for me. first and foremost they demand and earned a right to their privacy. >> when she married you she knew you had politicians in your family. when you said, oh, honey, i think i'm going to run for ufs office. >> and she said no, you're not. but then we talked about it. she got behind it 100%, god bless her. very unknown for her. i knew what i was getting into somewhat. she was very supportive and i'm blessed to have that kind of

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new hampshire there's no better thing to do than go hiking special this time of year. >> the sound of the leaves under your feet. >> love it. it's like a rhythmic meditation. yeah. you're kind of going through like swoosh, swoosh, swoosh, and it's very common. >> the four-term granite state governor had a long journey to get to politics starting with a more than 2,000-mile hike after graduating from m.i.t. >> appalachian trail, is that how you got the bug for hiking? >> probably, yes. it was a tough 4 1/2 years. as we say in new hampshire it was wicked hot. so i wanted to make sure i was taking the right steps and what better way to do that than to see what it was like go live in the woods and hike 2,000 miles. the idea of starting in one mountain and end up in maine and georgia was pretty exciting. and it's a personal challenge. i'm kind of goal oriented. very few people are able to

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running a ski resort. and they said who wrote the business plan, and i did. this is what we want. all of those aspects of running a business, as stressful as they were, as challenging, amazing learning experience. and that's one of the things that got me to run for governor. i said we've learned a lot, kind of trial by fire in a lot of these things. taken on new challenges and exactly what the state needed at the time. >> so that ceo management experience was absolutely the best training for this job. >> it's the only training. and i'm a big believer in that. if you hadn't had the sweat out payroll to take care of employees and their families, if you haven't had to work with shareholders and folks coming in to manage their money, there's no greater responsibility in government than managing other people's money, none. >> last summer he was forced to slow down when a serious health scare sent him to the empty.

>> i thought i had covid, and i was just exhausted all day for about a week. i thought the holiday weekend is coming up, i better go in and check it out. and sure enough i'd been bleeding inload all week. i had a bleeding ulcer. i only had a third of my blood and thathey had to start transfusions immediately. the next thing i know i got four transfusions over the period of 24 hours. they saved me and it was great. >> saved you. >> they said ultimately you probably would have fallen asleep and not woken up and you would have never known because i was bleeding out essentially. so it was kind of scary because i'm 47, i like to consider myself like 26, but i am 47. >> 471 young to have a health scare like that. >> it is. so you've got to manage your stress. everybody does. >> i was just going to say you know what ulcers tend to be from. >> it's a stressful job and we'd just come through the pandemic.

>> it affected you physically. >> yeah. >> the now 48-year-old says the lifesaving procedure gave him perspective. >> you know what was weird i was sitting in the hospital bed and i was waiting within the first hour or two of me getting there and i'm looking at the television and it's a shot of me being wheeled into the hospital. >> he arrived here by ambulance just before 2:00 friday afternoon after reporting flu-like symptoms on wednesday. >> when i saw that image, it hit home. >> really? >> oh, it was a very scary looking image. >> because it quite literally took you out of your -- >> i was on a gurney and they had all the tubes in me and giving me blood -- it's a scary look thing like who's that guy. and i'm like oh, my god, it's me. >> so that was what gave you the ah-hah moment. >> yes. i had to see myself on the outside going like holy cow, and then i said this is pretty serious. it was very scary. it was. and then you try to learn from it, hopefully learn from it,

change habits. i definitely learned from it. >> what did you learn? >> sometimes it's okay to put yourself first. sometimes it's okay for health reasons because -- >> i how have you done that? >> how do i want to it, how do i plan on doing it? >> yes. what's your aspiration? >> physical health is important so maybe losing a few pounds and getting out and running more. not just skiing but -- i try to eat a little less meat, a little less red meat. >> because of your bleeding ulcer. >> because of that and because tom brady said so. i love tom brady. pretty much what tom brady says i want to aspire to. and i go to bed at night going i shouldn't have eaten that cookie dough. >> are you trying to follow a tom brady diet? >> i tried for a little while, and just to kind of learn about it. look, i'm not going to go eat

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hi, new hampshire governor chris sununu will join us in just a couple of moments. >> being chris sunewue means getting up early and getting out front during the final weeks of his 2022 re-election campaign. >> as a candidate whether it's for governor or the school board you've got it be what am i bringing to the table. >> he redefines the term boundless energy from stations to rotary clubs to local

watering holes, sununu's been everywhere. he says he fell in love with country music during covid and reworked that johnny cash song during his campaign. you wrote that? >> i wrote the whole song myself sitting at home and sat at my desk as a fun little game in my head part. >> do you remember the words? >> yeah, i could. it made me realize, man, i took a lot of selfies. >> you don't ask for autographs anymore. >> that's the new autograph which is cool. >> we joined him for a day of events as he crisscrossed the state. >> it's hard. i have to manage medicaid, veterans benefits. i have to manage all these big ticket things, but at the same time so much of our success is

driven on a local economy, small business, how are these folks doing? do they have a work force, where does the work force live, do we have an opportunity for a housing project? the real issue is tell me what's wrong, tell me what isn't working, right, because now i have the challenge tago and fix it or break down the barrier to figure out how to make it better. >> hard to believe he insists he was once a shy introvert. >> pleasure, nice to see you. >> i just turned 95 last week. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> between campaign stops we followed him on a grocery run. >> all right, so i do need a few things. >> a regular errand he insists he enjoys. >> this would have been probably just under $4 a year ago. >> why do you do the food shopping in. >> therapy. i love it. first, i have a math guy. we're going to spend $125, i've got to get the best deals. and i find i like doing it. i enjoy it. >> this is not -- this is not just for us? >> oh, no, no.

i'm here all the time. and again, valerie comes in shopping but i'm like let me go, i'd rather go. >> a chance to see first-hand how much things cost and for constituents to come up and say hi. >> nice to see you. i'm doing great. >> it's therapy but is it also to interact. >> yes, to interact. people are barely comfortable. we're only a few mile from my house, people come up and let me know what's happening in the school district. they'll come up and let me know what's going on with covid, what do they think of the new regulations or something happened with des or i can't get a curb cut. >> over and over he insists he can't imagine being in elected office without running a business first. >> i approach it as a customer, customer service, right? if you want to have -- when i ran my business if i wanted to have good customer service i didn't do it sitting in the office, i went and sampled my

product constantly, right, what's working, what isn't. and by doing that and i've been sampling the new hampshire product as a voter and that's all. isn't that what you would want? >> yeah, but voters don't always get what they want am. >> for me that was the best way to come close to deliver on expectations. i'm trying to lead by example. >> you need a specific kind of personality to be comfortable engaging and empathizing. >> i suppose, but i don't think it's a rare thing. to be able to sit at a diner table and just have a cup of coffee and talk to someone i would -- if you can't do that, then you don't deserve the job. >> he's very open he hopes his down-to-earth approach rubs off on the younger generation now more familiar with toxic political styles. >> i think one of the opportunities we have is with i'll say the 35 and unders, 32 and under demographic. those are excited animated

voters. they want to get involved, but they've only really seen and participated in politics at its most vitreal level. nobody gets inspired to get involved in public service by being yelled at or blasted from a podium. they might get amped up, but not inspired. and i think leadership has an opportunity especially with the younger generation to inspire them, show them that higher path, if you will, that opportunity they have to be positive, to be -- to, you know, work with the other side. >> i don't know if you've noticed but some of our leaders are not young. >> okay. that's the politically correct term. >> is it time for a new generation, a younger generation of leaders? does that make a difference? >> it's always good to get young folks that come in with energy, but you need appearance, too. when i came in as governor at 42 i was shocked they told me i was the youngest governor in new

hampshire history. there's nothing wrong with that if it comes with the right tone and approach and using the right experiences. theoretically the older, wiser you are, you should have more experience to not get emotional over a political issue, to not get amped up and triggered and overcharged on the political side of things, actually hopefully bring experience, maturity, some calmness, understand the value of de-escalating a situation before it gets so hyped up that you can't negotiate anymore. >> a lot of republicans lobbied sununu to run for senate in 2022, but he said his love for being governor, a chief executive, not a legislator made it easy to turn down. you didn't want to leave this and go to washington to represent the state in the senate because you wanted to see the seeds you planted actually grow. >> yeah, i'm a manager, right? we're designing new systems here, new ways to do it. >> isn't there a part of you that wants to sprinkle those seeds over 49 other states?

>> yeah, i'm very proud of what we do here. >> yeah, there's a way you can do that. >> there's a lot of ways to do that. >> but there's one way that you can be the ceo of all of america. >> yeah, look, a lot of people are talking about the whole run in '24 and all that. look, i can tell you over the next year i'll travel a lot more. i've been asked to travel a lot and i usually say no, just to say, okay, what's going on in new hampshire, how are you guys doing this? can you share ideas and work with our teams? so maybe i'll go to another state and work with the team in a another state. i think what we've been able to do here is very similar to what america would love to see in their own state. >> coming up -- sounds like you're saying you want to be a model nationally. you don't want to be a candidate for president. had visibly-betten from dry to moisturized in just 12 days. be fearless with olay hyaluronic body wash and body lotion. take a picture. i'm stuck! is that the new iphone? yup, i just got the new iphone 14 with its amazing camera at t-mobile. wow! for a limited time

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everyone woke up. >> on election day being chris sununu meant getting in those last few moments with voters and the press. >> we worked really hard.

we've made sure folks talked about the issues, understand our record of success. >> casting his ballot and thanking supporters. >> you excited? >> i am. >> this arcade of sununu election night campaign headquarters. >> hey, buddy. you want me to sign it? >> complete with bowling, video games, and even axe throwing. and then the moment of truth. >> -- to bring you all three of them republican holds beginning in the state of new hampshire, chris sununu winning a fourth term. >> this is awesome. >> while sununu was victorious in new hampshire, republicans nationwide did not fair as well. one of the main messages we heard from president biden and other democrats was democracy was on the ballot. was democracy on the ballot? >> the system was on the ballot,

right, the system. the partisanship was on the ballot. i don't like the term democracy because what he's saying if you don't vote with republicans you're not for dem oc -- >> my question was that if you vote for a republican that denies the results of the election that's not democratic. >> but he was there promoting the entire democratic ticket saying if you didn't vote for democrats you weren't voting for democracy. do you know what the liberal elite says about joe biden behind his back? >> do you? >> yes. >> how do you know? >> because they said it to his face at the primary, that he was an out of touch white >> do you? >> yes. >> how do you know? >> they said it to his face in the primary. that he was an out of touch white guy who did not represent the democratic party. >> truly, as a republican, do you want to join? >> no, i just don't think it's good for america. i think it's good on both sides to get a lot of moving forward,

fresh blood there, fresh ideas. >> fresh bloods and ideas. is he referring to himself? at the state house in concord, his office is just steps away from the secretary of state's office where presidential candidate register to be on the ballot. >> you walk out the door, walk down the hallway and you go right there. >> i probably have to do it on my lunch break. >> do you have an advantage. if in the future, you decide to cross this threshold and actually sign it, because this is the first in the nation fry ma primary. >> yeah, but not as much as you think. being governor is very different from being president. the responsibility is different, and i think our voters appreciate that. so i imagine everybody from

south carolina or florida, will have to earn it. you can't take anything for granted. >> will he make the walk to run? >> are you thinking of running for president in 2024? >> no, i'm not thinking about it right now. no. >> right now? >> not ever, technically. folks have talked to me about it. it's obviously clear. and as things start greeearing more folks will talk about it. my focus is new hampshire. it has to be. we have challenges and we have amazing results to back up the local level. people ask me to travel the country all the time. how do you have no sales tax and doing so well. if that can inspire next generations and say not everything has to be fire

branded, that is a win for america. >> sounds like you want to be a model nationally. you don't want to be a candidate for president? >> we want to be a model nationally, and i want to share -- >> you didn't answer the second part of my question. >> i was just getting to it, you interrupted. we will move on. >> you're open to it. >> i'm open to everything, of course. look, i'm taupopen to what come the door next. >> it could be an opportunity. people are coming up to you. >> it could be down the road. but nothing i'm focusing on today. >> today like 2024. because you're young. >> what do you -- >> i mean in this cycle. >> look, i'm not trying to be coy. i'm not. >> you kind of are. >> no, i'm not. part of my job is being ready for whatever comes next. >> sununu insists donald trum's

announcement will not affect him. >> he is in a point of political strength right now. i don't think it's going to be going up. unfortunately, for the former president, it's only a slow, downward spiral from here. he is not going to keep anybody out of the race. >> one of the ways he can still win the nomination is one of the ways he won in 2016, there is a huge field of candidates, and they segment or fragment the voters and he takes the nomination with -- he can do less than 35%. is there any conversation that is going on, should go on to say, in order to stop donald trump, we need to not all jump in. we need to pick somebody, the best candidate, and run that way. >> no, not -- i think a lot of us are looking at governors that may run, and as governors, we

all want to see a kovgovernor r and be successful. u.s. senate and congress have their place. >> on the notion of getting together and having a conversation, it hasn't happened yet. >> do we presort ourselves out? >> no, it's up to the voter, not up to the elite to decide -- >> well, it's not necessarily elite if those who are considering running are saying, okay, i will pull back because -- >> i think all -- i think -- i am just speaking to the folks i talked to that might be elected officials. i think everybody understands the obligation and responsibility. >> you have to get in first. people look at you and they say, which he be a guy -- >> it's flattering. that tells me we're getting good results and we have the right approach and it's not just -- >> flattering or enticing?

>> no, it's flattering. are a lot of down sides being president of the united states. there is living in a bubble, and do you that to a certain extend in new hampshire. but i can stay connected with my constituents. >> sounds like you like a challenge. >> i love a challenge. >> would you like to redesign america? >> i would love the challenge of being part of something that can redesign a better system. whatever is going on in washington isn't working. >> for now, he will keep his attention on his family and his state. whether he will take on the challenge of washington, to be continued. r levels. while its collagen peptides help support your joint structures. so, start feeling lighter and more energetic by taking metamucil every day. [♪] metamucil's psyllium fiber also comes in easy-to-take capsules.

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