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>> you were just reelected a republican governor in a purple state what is it like to be you right now given the fact that you are a republican and a very
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interesting time for the gop? i see is opportunity, a great opportunity? an opportunity to say where are you going to take our matches? what can we do better? i think it is hopefully helping and inspiring the next generation of republican to ste up, hopefully inspiring spoke t see it is nonpartisan as the last few years have really been it doesn't have to be that way, and voters do not want it that way.
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so we have an opportunity to embrace that and go forward goo conservative republican ideals to get more stuff done. >> midterm election was not the red wave a lot of republicans rejected paraguay? and candidates. yay, we did not have the right candidates that came out of a lot of our primaries, and i think they lost the sense of priorities of larry hogan party independent voter. this is the extremism the
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election denial, all that stuff you i think the democrats did a wonderful job of redefining our candidates before they can introduce themselves. >> sununu defines himself in a way most republicans do not. where are you on the republican spectrum? all over the place. >> when you say extreme, so how would you define yourself? i just think i tried to be as normal and genuine as i can be. i don't share my philosophy, coaching my friends pulls or were about to try to be very
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approachable and to be very d data-based. >> are you modern? on social items this issues i am are monitoring a whole can speak on fiscal issues and much more conservative and i am part of that. >> you on a fourth term as governor of new hampshire for more than 15 percentage points. but all three federal gop candidates there lost.
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>> so the listener they were th wrong candidate because they were too extreme? for the state, yes, absolutely, yeah. i mean, i supported them. >> relates like election denier then bulldog whom sununu did no support in the primary. >> he's not a serious candidate he's really not the kind of a conspiracy theorist kind of candidate keysi batista back to gop senate candidate in the
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general election. >> he was three things up and he's going to go down to washington to do that. >> when we talk before the election soon and was confident. senate race, right now maggie hassan is ahead. >> yeah. was your prediction? i think the bull will then present the bold prediction the bulldog lost by nine percentage points. when we talked october you said that the republicans were going to win here.
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>> look, i totally misjudge tha one here. we look at the polls and we loo at it was important to people i no doubt constant conservative this energy are the number one concern. but when asked what is your top tier, shamanism and getting it things done. folk said we need to fix the policy but we have to fix the system first. we have to fix the machine and we didn't have -- they didn't have faith these individuals would be a picture that washington problem to get more stuff done. but there was just so much nois they had to combat without some of their previous statements
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what happened in the 2010 election. >> he says he wants to see his party move off that path, away from lies in conspiracy theorie embraced by the former pres president. many voters seems to agree, mos of the candidates trump endorse in when the former president of the election, i am going. >> in order to make america great and glorious again president of the united states . >> he's not southpoint. reported weakness, from the point of whatever is only good to be made is that even the frontrunner, right? >> wheeler peak has tendency to
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speak in hyperbole and three things out and all thakeep yt su . >> would you in your reelection campaign and what the campaign with eight donald trump does no with eight donald trump does no define chris sunun he mu.ne, how, well, you know, early on when he became president and -- when he read it. but when nero told us of data
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midwicke got about l. >> his major journalists and to washington elected officials jo piggott look to its of rosie if there's a roast it's a comedy is. >> do you think that is what he is? he has a style going to be as poor as i can be we were
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getting ready to win this election the conspiracies were frankly low and then what happened on january 6th? is he president again.fifty mi >> but the chesnoff no because he is that is time to his he is that is time to his service. we are moving on, we are wheels wheels ... ...and make-a-wish.
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>> being a sununu in hampshire is about the family business: politics. >> welcome. >> wow. so this is the governor's of office. this is it. >> so this is like to be here a governor, you would run around her as a kid pg it is the same place to be and many porches ar different or maybe they upgrade the furniture a bit but really it is the same place. each day when he walks into his office at the statehouse he is greeted by a portrait of his father, former new hampshire governor john sununu. but this is an amazing portrait.
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but you are in there, right? in the red coat on the ri right, and if you zoom down the right you see how awkward i am because i am in eighth grade bo at the time. i believe because of that this is the only put on with two governors and it. which is kind of funny, right? not only are there two governor in the family has other john e sununu represented new hampshir in the house and senate from 1997 to 2009.
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a big shoes to fill for chris, the seventh of eight kids. so when i first became governor i think one of my obvious responses, oh, boy, am i going to be in a share? he was a great governor and has his reputation and all that, very smart guy. i julie glenn him sometime. i will call him and ask him som transfer advice to be the trick is yet to say, well, that was probably brilliant in 1988. back when those computers were cutting edge. so how do i crafted to more of 2022-style mr. policy?
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he is one of those that sta very connected to the constituency. he was very hands-on, he spent so much time out of this office and that was an amazing lesson learned very early on. because you watch that you are youn g you watch to participate of everything. in 1989 news 14 his father became chief of staff the president george w. bush. he members it is a tough time. use governor, he left me he wen to the washington, d.c. area. that was not -- your eyes are getting big.
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>> pleasant plains that was not pleasant. >> that was not pleasant it is different. i remember walking my freshman year acutus and interlocular morning ready for classes start and their reading the washingto post began by, this is bizarro world, but given that my dad or federal policy with a lot of th front of a lot of those discussions, it may tough it never quite got unawkward.
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those headlines got tougher whe his father became embroiled in controversy and eventually left the bush white house. >> i just wanted to have a girlfriend and go to football game nevermind, like any other kid does not nevermind
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>> top-down, music cranked. coming up to the governor opens up about a life changing health up about a life changing health care. >> things and ultimately he probably would have just fallen we'll come to p
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>> being chris sununu means living and breathing new hampshire. >> i just love it here. family is here. i am probably addicted to the state most to a fault.
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if you're in a place like new hampshire, the better thing to do then go hiking, especially a this time of year. >> of course, the sound of the lease under your feet. love it. it is like a rhythmic notation. your killer going to swish, swish, swish. it is very calming. four-term greatest a governor and a laundry to get the politics, starting with a more than 2000--mile hike after graduating from mit. the appalachian trail. >> yes speas is that you got th bug for hiking you can probably yeah. i just love being out doors. i worked really hard and i meet. it was a tough four and a half years to it was working hard. i wanted to make sure i was picking the right first step. what better way to do that then see what it was like to go live in the woods provide month and hike 2,000 miles to be the idea of starting one mountain and ending up in maine and ending u in georgia was pretty exciting, it is a personal challenge. i am kind of goal oriented be
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very few people start and are able to finish. let's see if we can do this and maybe feeling a little somethin about ourselves. >> what did you learn about yourself? priorities to be when you are worried about where to get drink of water every day for five months, it kept things in perspective we come back to the world, in terms of priorities, needs, what's important, what i equal what you should spend you time in worrying about, and that's what the appalachian trail did they give me great perspective. >> perspective that not everything should be at 11? exactly. >> after college, sununu's once-a-decade as a environment to engineer before stepping int an uninfected role, he says wer prepared for the governorship. to boche how do you get from mi engineer to oh, i'm going to diffmack as i worked as a business consultant to help all folks or to buy a ski resort people end up helping drive the whole process, and i found the investors, and all the investor said to we are going to invest but we want you to run it.
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i san marco lesoine omar bonill ski resort? they said, well, wrote the business plan? i did. that's what you wanted to do. we believe in the plan. it's the pit's a little differe what we want to be all of those asterisks are running a bus business, and structural as a worker and challenging, amazing learning experience. that's what got to run for governor is to be learned a lot from the trial by fire in a lot of things, we design the students will be taking on challenges. that's good management, equity, and that's exactly what i thought the state needed at the time. so that ceo management experience was absolutely the best rate for this job? is the only training and i' a big believer in that if you haven't had to sweat out payrol to take care of employees and their families, if you haven't had to work with shareholders o folks that are causing you to manage their money, there's no greater responsibility in government and managing other people's money, none. >> last summer he was forced to slow down when a serious healthcare sent him to the hospital. >> i thought i had covid and i
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were just exhausted all day for about a week. and i thought yeah the holiday week of labor day of 22 he was coming up. i better get this checked out and sure enough i didn't bleeding inside a week. i had a bleeding ulcer and only had about a third of my blood level the way they should be an they had to start the transfusions immediately again, i thought i had the flu or covi and you know i've got no purchase regions over a period of 24 hours they saved me, it was great. >> seydoux? they said ultimately he probably would have just fall asleep and not looking up, and you have never known because i was bleeding out actually. so it was kind of scary because you know, i'm 47. i like to consider myself like tracy's money and 47, i'm getting older. >> 's. >> 47 is young to have a healthcare like that. it is. recommend your stress. >> you know what ulcers tend to come from. >> speaker 2: it's a stress job and we had just come through th
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covid pandemic and that's what we did great. >> and it affected you physically. >> yeah. >> for now 48-year-old says the lifesaving procedure give him perspective. >> you know what's weird? i was sitting in the hospital bed and i'm kind of waiting. this is like the first hour or two of me getting there and i a looking up the television and i see a shot of me being wheeled into the hospital. >> his right ear by ambulance just before two friday afternoo after reporting flulike symptom on wednesday. >> when i saw that image, it hits home. >> really? oh, it was a scary looking image. >> it quite literally to out of your . i was in a gurney, and they handle tubes in me, and they give me blood to the i'm like it's a scary thing, was that g guy? i might oh, god, that's me. that finally give you the mo moment? yes. i had to see myself on the outside going, holy cow. and i said, this is pretty sc scary. it was very scary, it was big and you tried to learn from it.
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hopefully learn from it, change habits take i definitely learne from it. >> what did you learn from it? sometimes it's okay to put yourself first to sometimes it' okay, for health reasons. >> how have you done that? hustler want to do it? how do i plan on doing it? what's your efforts no? school health is important so maybe losing a few pounds an getting out and running more. not just scan -- is are you eating differently? i tried to eat a little les meat, a little less red meat. >> because of your bleeding ulcer? because of that and because tom brady said so. i love tom brady. pretty much whatever tom brady says i will aspire to an end up going to bed at by thinking oh, i should have written that cookie dough like 20 minutes ag you like tom brady would be written cookie dough at conducted at night but soon adjusted. >> did you try the tom brady diet change for a little while just to learn about it you look i'm not going to eat avocado
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nonfat frozen yogurt with whatever it is to be that is no quite jam but, no, i think ther are good people you can pick ou something like that that is so ultimately discipline, like decades of fiscal discipline, and health span, and maybe pick pieces for yourself. >> tom brady may be the aspiration but for now sununu says he is just looking for balance. >> yeah i carry a lot of becaus there's no doubt about that. i grew up in a big family. you can care of yourself. you fell down scripture knee, got up and went back out there. that is just the way we did it, i guess emotionally and mentall in terms of dealing with stress is, i tend to have that same pattern. but as you get older is not necessarily the best and healthiest thing to do and i want to be here for my kids turned out to be in for the sin and are going to jump to do. it didn't help the state if i a laid out. that was the one scared i reall had. i've been pretty blessed what you get to learn from it and hopefully take her habits and move on. up next the governor press the
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flesh across new hampshire. >> great to see you, i'm doing great. >> but could he ever leave the granite state? this is absolutely beautiful. >> is incredible to it's hard t say yeah i'm just going to leav and go to dc.
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>> live governor chris sununu address a couple moments with live in the studio with us to today. being christian enemies getting up early, getting out front during the final weeks of his 2022 election campaign. >> as a candidate, whether it i for government or the school border you got to be what am i bringing to the table. >> he redefines the term boundless energy from radio stations the rotary clubs, small-town streets and local watering holes.
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sununu has been everywhere. [ ♪ i've been everywhere to ♪ ] >> he says his own love of country music during covid and reworked that johnny cash song during his campaign. >> you wrote that? i wrote that song myself just one night sitting at home to be i wrote as a little fun game in my head part. do you remember the words? the video does the cool, be it made me realize a man, i think a lot of selfies. >> and asked for autographs anymore? selfies. >> that's the allograft which i cool. we joined him for the events as he crisscrossed the state. >> i have to manage man's veterans benefits, have to manage all these big-ticket things, but at the same time so much of our success is driven o
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a local economy. small business, how are these folks doing? do they have workforce? where does their workforce live? do we have the opportunity for new housing project? we can talk about how great new hampshire is and all the great city but at the end of the day the real issues to me what's wrong. to me what is it works because now i get the challenge going t fix it or break the barrier to try to figure out how to make i better? that's the better more fun part of the job. >> he admits he was once a shy introvert. >> i just turned 95 last week. >> that's it? >> between campaign stops we followed him on a grocery run. all right, so, i do eat a few things. >> a regular eret he insists he enjoys. >> this would have been just under four months about a year ago. why do you do the food shopping? therapy. i love it so first i am asking so i have my budget in my head in regards been 125 bucks i've got to get the best deals and i find i like doing it. i just enjoy it. this is really -- like this is
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not just for us. no, no, oh, no, no, no, i' here all the time. and again only comes into go shopping but i'm not no, no, i' rather go. >> to see firsthand how much these cost and for constituents to come up and say hi. >> to see you, how you been? i'm doing great. >> it's therapy, but is also -- is my time to -- to interact? yes, interact be we are onl a few months my house. people come up and let me know what's going on in the school district will let me know what' going on with kolbicka what do they think of the regulations, or something happened with the es or, hey, i can't get a curb cut. they come up and it's a great time to listen. >> over and over, he insists. he can't imagine being in elected office with offering a business first. >> i approach it as a customer. customer service, right? if you want to have -- we are i the business, if i wanted to have good customer service i didn't do it sitting in the office, i went and sampled my
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product constantly, right. what's working, what is in. and by doing that, and i simply the new hampshire product is older and as a student, so that's all. isn't that what you would want? >> okay but it is always don't get what they want is, well, yeah but for me that was the best way to come closest to deliver and meet on expec expectations, so i am trying to lead by example in terms of how to do it here, how to be successful here. >> well, you need a certain kin of personality to be comfo comfortable, engaging, and empathizing. >> i suppose but i don't think it's a rare thing to b2b able t sit at a dinner table and just have a couple coffee and talk t someone, i would -- if you can' do that then you don't deserve the job. >> he hopes his down to earth approach rubs off on the younge generation -- the younger generation now more familiar with toxic political styles. >> i think one opportunity we have is with the 35 under, 32 and under demographic. those are excited and i to
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voters. they want to get involved but they have really only seen anticipated in politics at its most vitriol level be like really getting tired -- nobody gets inspired to get a public service by being yelled at or blasted out from a podium shaking their fists to be nobod gets inspired by that. they might get amped up at inspired, i think religion has opportunity especially with the younger generation, respire, show that higher pass if you will cross that opportunity the have to be positive, do you kno work with the other side. i don't know if you noticed but some of our leaders are not young. okay, that's a politically correct term. >> is a times for a younger generation, a new generation of leaders? does it make a difference just, well, i think it's always good to get young folks that come in with energy. but you do need experience too. when i became governor at 40 to i was shocked when they told me i was the youngest governor in the country. and i was the youngest and for like four, yes, i like really?
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barry c have been some older leadership* there's nothing wrong with that if it comes wit the right tone, and right approach, and using the right experiences. theoretically, they are older, people you should have more space to not get emotional over a political issue, to not get amped up and triggered and overcharged on the political side of things people actually hopefully bring some experience some maturity, some calmness, understand the value of the escalating situation before it gets so hyped up that you can't negotiate anymore. >> and i republicans lobbied sununu to run for senate in 201 but he said his love for being governor, chief executive not a legislator, made it easy to tur down. you didn't want to leave this i go to washington to represent the state in the senate because he wanted to see the seeds that you plan to actually grow. >> yeah, i am manager, right where designing new systems h here, new ways to do it. >> isn't that part of it was to sprinkle those seeds. of course, peter -- over 4
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other states? i'm very proud of what i've don here. there is a way you can do that. >> well, there's a lot of ways to do that. >> but there is one way you can be the ceo of all of america local a lot of people talking about the whole run in 24, and look i can see you next year i'll travel a lot more. i really will i've been asked t travel a lot and usually synergistic to what's going on in new hampshire, how are you doing? can you come and share ideas an work with our teams so maybe i'll go work another state and work with the team in another state. i think what we have here is basically what america would love to see in their own state. coming up, it sounds like what you are saying is you want to b a model snationally. president qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what they could do. getrefunds.com has helped businesses get over a billion dollars and we can help your business too.
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>> everyone woke up. on election day being chris sununu meant getting in those last few moments with motors an the press. we worked really hard to make
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sure folks just talk about issues, understand our record o success. >> casting his ballot and thinking supporters. excited? i am. >> this arcade is similar's election night headquarters prk body, want me to sign it? >> complete with bowling, videogames, and even asked throwing. and then the moment of truth. >> projection bring all three people can hold beginning in th state of new hampshire, chris sununu winning a fourth term. >> while sununu was victorious in hampshire republicans nationwide did not fare as well. one of the main messages we heard from president biden and other democrats was democracy i on the ballot. was democracy on the ballot? system was on the ballot,
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right, the system. the partisanship was on the ballot. i don't like the term democracy because that means is he is saying if you vote for republicans you are not -- that is not a fair assessment. >> my impression is he said, if you vote for republican who denies the results of the election, that's not democratic. yeah, but he was importing the entire democratic ticket saying that if you didn't vote for democrats you were voting for democracy do you know what the liberal elites is about joe biden behind his back? the you? yes. >> how do you know? because they said to his face during the primerica that he wa an out of touch old white guy that did not represent the future of the democratic party please just cheerlead for a political reason, as a republican do you want him to run? no i just don't think is good for america. i think it's good on both sides get a lot of moving forward fresh blood there yeah. fresh ideas. >> fresh water and ideas. is he referring to himself? at the statehouse in concorde
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his office is just steps away from the secretary of state's office where presenter candidates register to be in th ballot for new hampshire's famous primaries. >> so if you were to run for president he would walk out tha door, walked down this hallway and all you have to do is go right there? probably just would analyst. at some point, don't tell an anyone. >> you have an advantage if in the future you decide to cross this threshold and actually sig it because this is the first in the nation primaries. >> yes but not as much as you think. being governor is very differen than being president. there is possibility is very different and i think our voter appreciate that. so i imagine anybody from their homes to the it's a couple candidates in south carolina or if you candidates and flow to you still have to earn it one way or another. you can't take anything for granted. so will he make that walk to r run?
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you think about running for president in 2024? i'm not thinking about it right now, i'm really not. >> right now? looking folks have talked t me about it. that's obvious and clear. and i think as things start getting up into 23 more forcefully talking about it. my focus i was in hampshire, it really is because it has to be and i wanted to be. i mean, we have our children bu we also have amazing results to backup the system that we put into place at a local level. people asked me to travel the country all the time. how are you doing it in new hampshire's? how do you have no st. anne center contact but have six success? are you the ones growing so successfully in the northeast. you if they can inspire a generation to to know that not everything to be firebrand on both sides but that's a win for america. so like what you're saying is you want to be a model nationally, you don't want to b a candidate for president. >> we want to be in model nationally. i want to share that record of success.
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>> it's so funny to even answer the second part of my question. >> was just getting to it but you moved on to the next thing. >> you are open to it? i'm open to everything, of course. look, i'm open to what comes in that door next speak i'm open t any opportunity that mike and o the road for me, but for the -- >> people coming up to you is i could be down the road but nothing i am focusing on today. >> today, like 24 because you are young. meaning, in this cycle. >> yeah. look, i'm not trying to be coy, i'm really not. >> you kind of our peace and n not, i can tell you part of my job is being ready for whatever comes next. >> sununu insists donald trump' announcement will not influence decision or any other potential 2024 potential challenger. >> it should be about what somebody else is there. and as i said he is not a point of political strength right now. i don't think it's going to be going up. i think it's unfortunately for
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the former president, it's only going probably a slow downward spiral from here because he still when nomination? absolutely. let's not let ourselves that bu he is not going to keep anybody out of this race. >> one of the ways he could still win the nomination is one of the ways he win in 2016, which is there is a huge field of candidates, and they segment or fragment the voters and then he takes the nomination. he could even do less than 3 35 percent. is there any conversation that is going on, should go on to s say, in order to stop donald trump we need to not all jump in, we need to pick somebody with the best candidate, and ru that way? >> now, think a lot of us are looking at revenues that may r run. and i think as governors we all want to see governor run and be successful. governors are executives. i always say the senate, u.s. senate and congress had his place but they are not -- that
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have executive leadership sk skills. >> on the notion of getting together and having a conversation. obviously it hasn't happened y yet. but can we presort ourselves o out? should that happen? no because it is up to the voters not the establishment delete to decide who's going to be -- >> it is not becerril it it it is those of you considering running saying, okay i will pul back because. >> i think all the -- i think just speaking to folks i talked to that might be elected officials i think everyone understand that there that obligation, responsibility, it is not happening or is not happening, you got to get out. but you've got to get in first. people look at you and they say oh, he could be a guy who i could see running. >> that's very flattering look for that tells me we are gettin results and we have the right approach. it is not just about chris sununu. >> is it flattery or enticing. it is flattering look but there's a lot of downsides to being president of the united states. there is a whole living in a bubble if you do that to city center new hampshire but, boy, can still say stay so connected
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