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meeting of the january 6th committee. we will discuss what will be a historic call for account ability for donald trump, and his role in the u.s. capital insurrection. chaos at the u.s.-mexico border, with title 42 set to expire, officials brace for an influx of migrants. what the biden administration plans to do about it, ahead. plus, a cnn exclusive. how the iranian government is gaining access to activists social media and using it against them. live, from cnn center, this is cnn newsroom, the u.s. house select committee investigated january 6th capitol riot will hold its final public meeting in the hours ahead. we expect to learn which criminal referrals will be sent to the u.s. justice department. those referrals would be nonbinding, and it is up to the
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department to decide if to pursue them. cnn has learned the committee is weighing multiple alleged crimes committed by former president trump. they include obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to defraud the government, and insurrection. here is what one member of the committee had to say. >> viewing it as a former prosecutor, i think there is insufficient evidence to charge the president. this is someone who, in multiple ways, had tried to pressure state officials to find votes that did not exist, this is someone who tried to interfere with a joint session, even inciting a mob to attack congress. if that is not criminal, then, i don't know what is. >> i want to turn now to
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jessica levinson, she is a professor of law at loyola university, and the host of the passing judgment podcast. she joins me now from los angeles. jessica, great to have you back with us. the house committee investigating january 6th is considering voting on several charges later today. tell us more about these charges. >> these are charges we have heard them talk about, before. basically, they involve obstruction of an official proceeding, and attempt at conspiracy to defraud of the u.s. government, and also inciting and insurrection. all three of those are things that we have heard discussed in the past. i think the thing to remember, of course, is that it is very serious. we have never seen this in american history, that a house committee has voted to refer criminal charges regarding a former president of the united states. but, it is just symbolic. the department of justice will make its own independent assessment as to whether it will move forward against the former president or anyone else. >> might there be more charges
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in addition to those outlined? >> yes. we are just going based on reporting and the reporting at this point i think says at least three charges. they are going to refer to the department of justice and suggested that they bring at least those three which we talked about but could there be more? i think we can rule that out at this point, but those are the three that would make the most sense, those are the three that when we have heard members of the committee read from stress statutes before, it has been those three. >> as you pointed out, the committee will make criminal referrals. what is a criminal referral? >> it is basically the committee saying, we have this evidence, and we believe that this evidence rises to the level of criminal culpability. and so, we are a political body, we cannot actually prosecute the former president, but the department of justice can. so, based on the information that we have, all the witnesses that we have interviewed, the documents that we have obtained, we have made the judgment that you should go forward because you can prove these criminal violations beyond a reasonable
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doubt. but again, it is up to the department of justice, and i know that there were discussions from the house select committee, as to whether or not it would help or hurt the department of justice in making an independent assessment, if the house committee gave a referral. >> you partially answered this next question, these charges will be referred to the department of justice. does this, in and of itself, carry legal weight, and why not, if it does not? >> so, no, in the sense that their decision to say yes, we are referring charges, i mean, does that separately carry any legal weight? what carries legal weight is the basis of their decision. so, it is the evidence which i believe they have already largely, if not completely, turned over to the department of justice. but, the department of justice, in making a decision as to moving forward, they will not look at whether or not members of congress voted in favor of a
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criminal referral, in deciding whether or not they can prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. that is a separate issue. this is really a political issue. the house select committee wants to go down in history as saying, based on what we saw, we cannot say stay silent, and we think that there should be criminal charges in this case. >> who ultimately makes that decision to move forward at the doj? >> in the first instance, it is going to be the independent counsel who was appointed by merrick garland. and then, ultimately, the buck stops with him. he will look at what the recommendation is. i think he will probably go by that recommendation, but, he still does have a role to play. >> if he decides not to act, what would happen? do these referrals just go away? >> yes. it is just a symbolic vote. it is simply these members of the house select committee saying, based on everything we saw, the witnesses we talked
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to, the documents we have obtained, we don't think this is immoral behavior, we don't think this is problematic behavior, we think it is illegal behavior. but if the department of justice says we come to a different conclusion, then that is that. >> final thought from you, jessica, the select committee will hold their final public hearing today, a culmination of a lot of work. what impact has it had, might it have? >> that is a great question, and i have to say, i try to think of this through the short- term, medium-term and long-term lens but through the short term, i think that it has had a remarkably little impact, in some ways, in the sense that, if we were all on the same page and we were all looking at this evidence, then, i think it
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would absolutely disqualify the former president from becoming a candidate again. but, he is a candidate again, and he could get the nomination. so, in the short-term, it has not had the impact that, thank you, i would have expected, like, as what happened with respect to the watergate investigation. but, in the long term, that is what i do not know. how will history look back at this particular house select committee, and will history basically vindicate their approach? i don't know the answer to that. >> jessica, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. you can watch the january 6th committee final public hearing live today, starting at 1:00 p.m. in washington, 6:00 p.m. in london, right here on cnn. as many as 10,000 migrants could be waiting to cross into the u.s. from mexico in the coming days. this comes as the trumpet era policy known as title 42 is expected to and on wednesday. title 42 was implement it in march, 2020, to slow the spread of covid-19 by allowing border agents to quickly turn away
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migrants. but, if it ends and migrant numbers of surge dramatically, activists and politicians alike are warning of a looming humanitarian crisis. u.s. representatives on both side of the aisle are growing frustrated with the biden administration and its plans to handle a worsening border situation. >> this is the reality, the facts. we are not even at the worst of it yet. i don't care how we got here, how do we get out of here? there are some things that the administration can immediately do to alleviate this stress. >> like what? >> we need a solution on our southern border. here in south texas, this is not a democrat or republican issue, this is a south texas problem that impacts the country and we need to come together to solve it. >> kevin has more now on what the white house is doing about the crisis at the southern border. >> there is an escalating level of concern inside the biden administration about the expiration of title 42 on
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wednesday. that is the trumpet era which allowed for mass expulsions of migrants at the southern border. now, the biden administration is preparing for multiple scenarios, including the possibility of 9000 and 14,000 migrants crossing the border every day, almost double from current levels. what the white house says they are doing is they have been preparing for months, they do say they need an additional $3 billion from congress, to help ramp up personal at the border. they have increased the number of border patrol personnel meant to deal with processing some of these migrants. they have also built 10 structures at the border, they are temporary structures meant to houses some of these migrants when they cross, and they are also scaling up transportation routes. flights, bus routes, to help bring some of these migrants to less crowded areas of the country, but that is certainly
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not quieting criticism from republicans and even some democrats who represent that area of the united states that the administration is not doing enough. what the white house says is that they essentially have no choice in the matter. the court ordered that title 42 be lifted, and that it will be lifted on wednesday. now, the white house says that president biden is very engaged on this matter. he has been speaking certainly with top officials at the white house, but he has also been engaged diplomatically, and we will see him on monday, meeting with the president of ecuador, and that will certainly be a topic of discussion, there. but, the consistent message that you hear from the white house is that this is an area where congress needs to act. in order to fix the american immigration system, lawmakers will need to come together to an agreement on something that will be put into law, that it won't just be president biden using his executive authority to address this issue. now, there had been some discussions on capitol hill
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over the last couple weeks about bipartisan immigration plan, but as this congress winds down, that does not appear to be any appetite in the waning days of this congress, perhaps in the new year that will gain some momentum, but certainly, before wednesday, there is little question that congress will not be able to come to an agreement on an immigration plan. so, this title 42 does appear on track to end by wednesday. cnn, the white house. a peruvian railway operator says train service to and from the ancient city of machu picchu is resuming on an emergency basis. they have been interrupted since tuesday because of the ongoing political unrest in the country, which began earlier this month, after the arrest and impeachment of former president pedro castillo.
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the protests have led to disruption of airport and railroad services throughout peru. as many as 300 tourists from around the world have been stranded in machu picchu as a result. about 260 million americans could feel the impact of an arctic blast as the first day of winter arrives. dangerously cold temperatures are forecast for the region east of the rockies. it is expected of this cold arctic air will spread across the south and east. in the midwest, northern, and central plains, wind chills may dip down as low as minus 40 degrees, which is, incidentally, the same temperature in celsius and fahrenheit. this includes portions of montana, wyoming, the dakotas, along with nebraska and minnesota. rescue efforts are underway in the gulf of thailand after a royal thai navy ship sank this morning. 33 of the ships 106 crewmembers are missing, and bad weather in
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the area is complement complicating the search and rescue mission. the navy says a strong wind caused the ship to tilt and water to flow into the electrical system, shutting it down. a passenger is speaking out now about a nightmare flight where severe turbulence injured at least 36 people. it happened on sunday, on a hawaiian airlines flight from phoenix to honolulu. authorities say 20 people were taken to emergency rooms, 11 are in serious condition. a 14 month old child is among those hospitalized. the college student who shared this video said the turbulence felt normal at first, but escalated to the point where the plane felt like it was freefalling. emergency crews met the plane wanted landed in honolulu. still ahead, a fairytale ending for a legendary footballer. lionel messi wins his first world cup title in a thrilling match, here, more on what the victory means to him.
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argentina celebrating a world cup victory for the ages. they defeated the reigning champs, france, on penalties to capture their third tournament the title. they were led by superstar lionel messi who lifted the coveted trophy for the first time in his career. he did it on his fifth, and likely last tournament appearance. afterward, he shared what the victory means to him. >> translator: it's madness that it happened the way that it did. but, it is amazing. i said at one point that god was going to give it to me, and i don't know why i foresaw it. i felt like it was going to be this way. >> in buenos aires, a scene of euphoria. hundred celebrating the championship by waving flags
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and screaming for joy. they had waited 36 years for a moment like this. french fans were understandably disappointed by the outcome of sunday's final. their team had seemed so close to winning a second straight title when they came back from a two gold's advantage. >> translator: we are disappointed because france lost. we wanted to win a second time in the world cup, well that's life, nothing we can do. its life. >> translator: i'm very sad that france lost tonight, but they played badly. argentina played better than france, they deserve their world cup. although i am sad that the final was played on penalties. it is a shame, but, congratulations to argentina. i hope france will come back stronger than ever, in future tournaments. sadness turned to outrage
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as angry fans took to the streets. scuffles broke out on the champs elysees in paris. police were seen charging into crowds, trying to disperse them. a few people in lyon vented their anger by throwing fireworks at police. others surrounded a car before it managed to drive away. jim joins me now from paris, with more. jim, france came so close to winning the world cup but it was not meant to be. what is the mood in paris? >> i would say probably a bit like the weather, gray and rainy. french fans got their money's worth in the match yesterday. it really, truly was a very exciting match. the newspapers this morning summarized things pretty well. proud of our blue, the name of the french team. of course, they put the
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argentinians above the fold but below the fold they said the blues brought on sadness, but panache. kind of the mood here and it was the thing that president macron at the match yesterday said when he went into the locker room last night. >> translator: you have the heart, the finish, the desire, and the talent to be here, that is why i wanted to come see you, to say thank you. you have woken up french men and women who needed it. thank you, to you. >> reporter: in fact, they are not going to have the usual normal victory parade, because there was no victory for the french team down the champs elysees. but, they will have a gathering to recognize the talents of what was really an extraordinary matchup, and it will probably be somber there will be a lot of pride there, as well. >> pride indeed.
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french president macron, we just saw him there, we have also seen him consoling the star french striker, he seemed very present, what do people make of the french president attending the world cup? >> there are two sides. i think if you like him you probably thought it was okay but if you don't like him you can find any number of reasons to not like the idea that he was appearing, apparently, to try to get some of the reflected glory from the team in delhi, and in fact, there was even talk when he first appeared in the playoffs, he appeared first there and then went back again for last night's match, and the consequent politically, basically divided on whether he should have done that or not. but, i think, as a nation, probably he did summarize the feelings best by saying look, you gave us something to dream about, and you lead us down the path and perhaps you will take
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us down that same path again, but this time, to victory. layla? >> jim bittermann in paris, great talking to you, thank you. even before the nailbiting finish, the world cup had been filled with ups and downs. we take a look at the tournament highlights and low lights. >> reporter: it was 12 years in the making, arguably the most controversial world cup of all- time. allegations of corruption and criticism of qatar's civil and human rights records dominated the buildup. on the eve of the tournament, the fifa president deflected all of the criticism. >> you want to criticize someone, come to me. here i am, you can crucify me. i am here for that. don't criticize guitar, don't criticize the players. >> reporter: when the action kicked off, it was relentless. the host team, qatar, quickly slipped out of view, but many of the underdogs had their day. saudi arabia is a sensational win against argentina set the tone for a tournament of upset.
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japan came from behind to stun germany, the next day. in the background, controversy lingered. protest about qatar's domestic policies were brief but impactful. in saying they were silenced, germany found their voices and in refusing to sing, aaron signaled their empathy for the bloodied uprising back home. for some, it was a painful world cup. christians injury was enough to make everyone's eyes waterpik >> you called it the pelvic contusion heard round the world. >> felt around the world. >> reporter: but, the real pain was the loss of two migrant workers who died as a result of workplace accidents during the tournament, and the sudden passing of two media members who were covering the action. qatari photojournalist and decelerated american sports writer. on the field, history was made. stephanie led the first all- female refereeing crew in a men's world cup and the group stage kept the fans on the edge
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of their seats while the drama put news anchors out of their mind. >> i saw you, i have absolutely no hesitation in saying to you, this heap of mess is yours to try and interpret. >> richard i'm not sure i wanted. it is so cup located. >> if this happens and that happens what does that mean and i said i need to consult my notes. i don't know. >> reporter: when the dust had finally settled, a new world order emerged. this was asia's most successful tournament, and the same for morocco, who became the standard bearers for a continent and a people. blazing a trail to the semi finals, making heroes of themselves and stars of their mothers. >> back home this is a good time for everybody from qatar,
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the middle east, the arab countries all over the world, they love it, they are having a different experience, and they are enjoying their time. >> reporter: in the end, we got the final that many are expecting. france against argentina was an instant classic. killian scored a hat trick but was heartbroken as argentina edged it on a penalty shootout, meaning that lionel messi has now won the only trophy to have eluded him, elevating him to the pantheon of great's, and finally placing him alongside his great compatriot, diego merritt donna. fifa says this has been the best ever world cup. history will be the judge, but for so many different reasons, it has certainly been one of the most memorable. cnn, qatar. the u.s. congress is barreling toward a funding deadline that could bring a government shutdown by next weekend. what is at issue, and how likely we are to see a deal, next, on cnn newsroom. leader, the presidents of russia and belarus are set to meet in minsk. we will have a live report on what to expect from vladimir putin's visit. ast with red currants on top
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the clock is running down for u.s. lawmakers on capitol hill. they have until friday to pass a new funding bill to keep the government up and running. if they cannot meet the deadline, the government will have to shutdown. daniela has more on what is to come. >> reporter: time is running out as lawmakers race against the clock to try to pass a government funding bill before friday at midnight. that is when the current funding is set to expire and could trigger a government shutdown here in the united states.
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lawmakers have expressed optimism that they will be able to make that deadline and pass a bill before them, announcing republican and democratic appropriators just last week, that they have reached a topline number for government funding. $1.7 trillion to fund the united states government, starting december 24th. that was negotiated four weeks. they were not able to reach agreement on domestic spending here in the united states. now that they have reached that topline number they are just writing the bill text, which we expect to come out in the next 24 hours. once that text comes out, the process to pass the bill starts on capitol hill. we expect the senate to take it up first, there will be some delays as republicans are inspected to oppose the bill, but we expected to pass and then go to the house for passage with a simple majority before it goes to president joe biden's desk by friday for signature. while there is still no bill text, we do not expect the
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government shutdown, should negotiators be able to really meet that deadline, which they have expressed to us time and again in the last few days, that they would be unable to do that, and prevent a government shutdown. daniela diaz, cnn, washington. disgraced ftx ceo sam bankman freed is expected to appear in a courthouse. he is expected to waive extradition, once that happens he would return to the u.s. quickly. he faces federal criminal charges in an eight count indictment for alleged fraud and conspiracy. as the investigation unfolds, u.s. authorities could find more charges against him. we are following developments out of ukraine, where a fire has raged in kyiv after a russian attack, hours ago. officials say at least two
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people were injured after russia hit the capital with drones earlier today. the mayor says critical interceptor facilities were damaged. work is now underway to help stabilize the city's power and heat supply. officials say several drones were shot down in the attack. to the south in the kherson region, officials say at least three people were killed in attacks by russian forces who are said to be targeting residential areas. cnn's clare sebastian is following the relevance and joins us now live from london with more. claire, we understand that russian president vladimir putin is expected to visit belarus today. could belarus be pulled into that conflict? >> that continues to be a subject of speculation. ukrainian officials have said that they are increasingly concerned that this relentless aerial bombardment, that we are seeing in the capital this morning, and the south in kherson, could proceed a new ground offensive from russia which they have expected as early as january.
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president zelenskyy saying on sunday that all possible defense scenarios are being looked at with this border, the visit by president putin to belarus comes as we have seen an increase in military activity on both sides. belarus helped snap military drills last week, there has been a new reporting by the defense ministry showing a grouping that was set up in october of russian forces with belarusian troops in belarus doing training exercises, there has been movement of belarusian heavy equipment, so there is some speculation that this could be something on the cards, certainly even if russia does not launch a ground offensive from a belarusian territory perhaps towards the capital it is in their interest to keep the focus there as it could distract ukraine from other frontlines and even distract manpower away from that as well. we have seen a lot of photo ops, a lot of meetings between presidents putin and lukashenko since the start of this war, putin has not himself traveled
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to belarus in over three years. in another striking development, recently freed arms dealer victor bout visited ukraine? >> less than two weeks after touching down on russian soil in that prisoner swap for u.s. basketball player brittney griner is now appearing to repay the favor to the russian government, taking part in these propaganda pr exercises. he has reportedly joined a program when party and was taking part in an event for that party in occupied luhansk. he spoke at that event, he said he has been following their fate for eight years so clearly, the kremlin is trying to maximize the value of this swap, to show that they were able to one up the u.s. in this negotiation and perhaps also distract from the fact that their efforts in ukraine continue to hit many obstacles. >> clare sebastian in london,
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thank you so much for your continued coverage. amid the cold and darkness of the war, kyiv is now subverting hanukkah, the jewish festival of lights. the giant menorah in the cities independence square was let's to commemorate the first night of the eight-day holiday. it is burning as the war is about to enter its 10th month. a fact not lost on the jewish president of the besieged nation. >> translator: congratulations to the jewish community of ukraine, and all those in the world on hanukkah. those who are outnumbered defeated those who outnumbered them. light defeated darkness. it will be the same this time. still to come, a cnn investigation reveals how iranian authorities are using technology to crackdown on protesters. that exclusive report, up next. since i won't be with him for christmas. it was the best gift that i ever receieived,
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as protests continue across iran, cnn has learned that authorities are using technology to gain access to protesters itself and in social media accounts. the government is using this information to arrest and in many cases, prosecute them. for more, let's bring in katy, as a part of this exclusive investigation, she joins us now live from london. good to see you, katie, what more can you tell us? >> thank you for having me. i think that what we have learned with this investigation is that there are a variety of ways in which the iranian government may be accessing people's social media accounts. what we can learn is that it is not only people's phones, it is also encrypted platforms, such as telegram, which is widely used among activists in iran, and it is making some of the activists feel worried about their safety on these platforms.
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this is not just phone records, it is also private jets. in some cases, even at the location of their phone on certain streets of, at certain times pick there is still a lot of unanswered questions, there may be some old methods they are using, such as confiscating devices, forcing people to hand over their phone. what is clear from this instigation is that it is happening and that there is evidence that activists do not think that there devices and chats are still private. and, when they are hacked and they are accessed by the iranian government, what we found is that the repercussions could be incredibly severe. have a listen to what we have found. >> reporter: moody, reflective, like many teenagers, mika considered her instagram page a safe place for self-expression. protests in iran turned her into an icon, and her instagram page into a blank slate. who disabled it and why, became yet another mystery surrounding what had happened to her. cnn previously revealed evidence suggesting mika was detained at protests shortly before this
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video was filmed. but authorities have always denied any involvement in her disappearance and death. now, cnn can exclusively reveal that instagram's parent company investigated her account after she disappeared, concluding they, themselves, were not involved in disabling it. in other words, it was either mika, herself, or crucially, someone with access to her account that took it down. as recently reported by the intercept revealed, iran's highly sophisticated system for phone hacking raises the question of whether social media platforms can keep accounts secure. when protest erupted in iran, mika began using instagram as a diary for her activism. this activity may have ended up working against her. after her death, the iranian state began publishing evidence like this cctv footage at to clear the state of involvement
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in her death. first they said she pushed from this building, then she fell from it. next, they referenced suicidal messages in documents extracted from her mobile and instagram conversations. it was an open acknowledgment they were accessing her phone and her social media accounts. but, she is not alone. as flames engulfed the notorious prison in mid-october, she was inside. she was accused of sharing activist posts like these on telegram, the encrypted social media platform. we have changed her name for her safety, her written words are read by an actor. >> i think they already have my telegram chats because they talked about it but there were certain photos, i had shared relatively political photos. they would show me the photos from that telegram to claim i was the admin, but i kept denying it. >> reporter: she says the iranian authorities had obtained these chats, despite not yet having her phone. she believes they hacked her account and she now faces six years in jail. >> reporter: while in prison,
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iranian authorities reactivated her telegram account, she says it was to see who tried to contact her and reveal a network of activists she was in touch with. the same tactics may have been used with me goes to live in telegram accounts. weeks after her account, two of her friends noticed her account was back online. it disappeared shortly thereafter. >> reporter: because family are still reeling from her death. one close family member told cnn, authorities are still refusing to return her phone. the iranian authorities have not responded to cnn's request to comment, while mehta said they could not share specifics on mika's account but they confirmed they did not disable it. in every case, the device had been confiscated or the user had unwittingly made access possible by not using two factor authentication. still, questions remain as to if mehta, and other tech
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companies are doing all they can to protect their users as the world wakes up to the increasingly tech-savvy ways regimes such as iran are using to monitor and hunt down activist. >> reporter: it is worth noting that instagram and telegram are hugely popular in iran. before instagram was banned in the recent protest, 90% of iranians used instagram. that is a population of about 86 million. this is a huge number of people who uses these forms for every taken medication, sharing thoughts and ideas with each other and friends, but it is also being used for activism. for connecting activists to each other, connecting where protest will be, at what time and what day. so, if there is any indication that these platforms might be accessed by the iranian government, that is, of course, incredible concerning. the question now is from this investigation, whether tech companies are well equipped to deal with these challenges. >> important questions raised there, katie, thank you so much. elon musk is giving all
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twitter users a chance to weigh in on whether he should continue to run the social media company. the tesla and spacex founder tweeted this. should i step down as the head of twitter? i will abide by the results of this poll. in a few short weeks as ceo, musk has faced controversy and backlash over mass layoffs, botched rollouts of new features, band journalist, and his handling of previously banned accounts. in his latest controversy, he just reversed a decision to ban tweets which link to other social media platforms, a policy that lasted less than 24 hours. at last check, 58% of users in that poll, said yes, musk should step down. the pole is set to conclude on monday night. still to come, a british court could soon decide whether the uk can send tens of thousands of asylum-seekers to rwanda. we will have a report when cnn newsroom continues.
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recapping one of our top stories this hour, activists and politicians alike are warning of a looming humanitarian crisis on the u.s. southern border. a trump-era policy known as title 42 is expected to end on wednesday. the measure allows border agents to quickly turn away migrants to slow the spread of covid-19. it is now estimated that as many as 10,000 people could be waiting to cross into the u.s. from mexico in the coming days. we will have more on the u.s. border crisis in our next hour. in the coming hours, judges on london's high court will rule on whether the british government can legally send tens of thousands of asylum- seekers to rwanda. this comes as the uk faces record numbers of migrants arriving on its shores illegally, often in unsafe boats. more from nadia bashir. >> reporter: another life lost in britain's icy waters, another reminder of the dangers faced by migrants attempting to cross the english channel from northern france.
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as many as 40,000 migrants have braved the dangerous crossing since the beginning of this year alone. now, the uk government says it is doubling down on its plan to tackle illegal migration. >> when legal proceedings conclude on our migration and economic development partnership, we will restart the first flights to rwanda. >> reporter: it was an 11th hour legal intervention which grounded the first deportation flight in june. now, after months of deliberation, a final court judgment will determine whether the rwanda deal is in fact illegal. >> there are serious concerns around the functioning of the asylum system in rwanda, as well as a serious concerns about political freedom of expression. >> reporter: under the proposed scheme, thousands of migrants arriving in the uk illegally could be deported to rwanda to have their asylum claims heard, there. the government's own figures show that in the 12 months
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leading up to september of this year, 77% of asylum claimants were granted an initial decision, awarding refugee status or humanitarian protection. many, traveling from countries including iran, iraq, afghanistan, and syria. among them is use of, a syrian refugee his name we have changed to protect his identity but he was one of 100 asylum- seekers due to be deported to rwanda in june. >> translator: i want to live at peace in the uk, to work and build a future for my wife and son. if they sent me to rwanda, then my life will be over. after all the struggles i have faced, it will be devastating. i will kill myself. >> reporter: yusuf says he floor his word turn hometown in 2017, leaving behind his family in the hope of building a new life overseas. >> i saw devastation across our
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country. our lives were consumed entirely by war and fear. it was all around us. >> reporter: yusuf's journey took them from syria to lebanon and onwards, where he was detained for eight months before getting to europe. >> we were given very little food and water. they would beat us. torturous. after i left libya, i traveled across the sea to italy. it was a very difficult journey . we were stuck at sea for three days. one more day and i think we would have died. >> reporter: like many refugees, yusuf then traveled to calais, in northern france, where he spent weeks living in a squalid refugee camp, waiting to be smuggled on a small boat to the uk. now, as the uk government clamps down on this crossing, experts are questioning how effective and how ethical the rwanda policy really is. >> there is no evidence it is putting anybody off. we are talking about people who
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have fled really serious problems. civil wars, massive human rights abuses in their own countries. >> reporter: as the high court hearing comes to a close, so does months of limbo for the thousands of asylum-seekers at risk of deportation. nadia bashir, cnn, london. pope francis has signed a resignation letter that he has on standby just in case it is needed. he revealed the existence of the letter in an interview with the spanish news output. the pope says he wrote the letter years ago, in case of poor health or an accident left him unable to perform his duties . he noted that previous pontiffs had also drafted similar letters. pope francis just turned 86, but he appears to be in good health, aside from knee problems. thank you so much for your company. cnn newsroom with max foster is up next. stay with us. i will be back tomorrow.
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