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hope cozy at home watching. >> making coffee. >> exactly. a lot of coffee. good morning, everyone. thank you for joining us. poppy is off today. the question is, because they're running out of time. well, they made changes. what will happen at the border? chief justice john roberts temporarily froze a trump era border restriction in place. what will the white house do? also, four criminal charges. those are the referrals from the january 6 committee and they're delivering a new report on trump, but now it's up to the justice department to decide whether or not they're actually going to charge him with a crime. and an arctic blast this week bringing the coldest christmas in nearly 40 years. it is expected to hit millions and prompt travel chaos. we are live in the weather center for you. so brrrrr is the word. title 42. still in effect after chief justice john roberts intervenes. it was set to end tomorrow.
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roberts has asked the biden administration to respond by 5:00 today to an emergency appeal from gop-led states to keep it in place. so let's find out what the white house is saying about this now. so we go to mj lee at the white house. good morning. the white house surprised by this ruling? >> reporter: the short answer, don, is, no. not surpriseded. they obviously were aware that these 19 states led by republican leaders had filed for this emergency application, and knew one of the options that could play out was this kind of temporary order we saw from the supreme court yesterday, and you saw how quickly the dhs responded to that order and basically said, yes. we will abide by this and title 42 will stay in place for now. anyone who tries to rcross the border illegally will be sent back to mexico swiftly. both doj and white house have been clear about one thing. the work done on the ground will continue. that is to say the various
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preparations that these agencies have been making to prepare for a potential surge in migrants coming across the border. we've talked about this so much over the last couple weeks. boosting personnel. hiring more people to deal with this situation. trying to get more resources to, again, deal with the surge. the white house is making clear that they are going to continue focusing on that work. >> so the response is set for 5:00 today. that's what the court asked the biden administration to do. any indication what they're going to do? >> reporter: yeah. you get a sense how fast-moving this situation is. that justice roberts essentially gave the administration one day to respond to that emergency application. look, i don't think this administration has a choice but to abide by that deadline that was set by justice roberts. that is 5:00 p.m. today. we know that this is a legal process. the administration really just has to go with everything that is thrown their way by the courts. but, again, i think it is just
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worth emphasizing that for right now, the number one priority that the white house says is top of mind of them is preparing for this surge, because they know that this is likely a temporary freeze and that at some point title 42 is going to end. just the question right now is exactly when that is going to happen, don. >> mj lee at the white house. thank you, mj. all right. also this morning, cnn is on the ground. we are seeing significant movement on the border. speaking to families who crossed the southern border at title 42 remains in limbo meaning so many families do as well. cnn's david culver is live in suarez, mexico. what are you seeing there this morning? we've checked in every day. what's happening on the ground right now? >> reporter: kaitlan, a significant mobilization that just started under way. probably about 30 minutes ago. i want to pan over here. this is from the mexico side looking on to the u.s. side. you can see on this strip of the river break, or the rio grande, this is what appears to be
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either u.s. military or texas national guard. it's not clear. either way, they're in military uniforms and pulling out barbed wire here. this is a part that migrants had been for several weeks, if not months, we were here last month, using as a safety route. camping here on the mexico side. simply would cross over this part of the rio grande and position themselves there. about 45 minutes ago hundreds here. campfires lit waiting to be processed. that all changed as dozens of humvees moved in. walk along the border and show you what is taking place right now. again, it looks like military humvees, perhaps national guard. then also seeing in the middle of that, david, if you can point just right in between here. looks like texas law enforcement as well. we have not seen this type of movement here in our time covering this, and it does seem that this is perhaps in preparation for what could be a
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surge. of course, this has been a very popular crossing ground and on the mexico side, they've obviously been concerned enough to clear out the encampment that was once here. perhaps some coordination as well with mexican law enforcement, because we've been seeing mow patrols by mexican police at the same time. notice even over here. we've got a few folks sitting out and in blankets. migrants on the other side. were also in the line to be processed. they, for some reason, decided not to continue through and came back over to the mexican side to basically just take in what's happening right now. but this was the space, kaitlan, that people were using to walk over and to then start the processing to be considered for asylum, and many would go through and under title 42, as we know is still in place, they would be immediately expelled, some of them. some of them were actually baseball to get through. right now, this indicates that there's a lot of concern at this
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crossing in particular, because it was so popular that now you have what is this significant mobilization that appears to be trying to stem what could be a massive surge. >> and, david, i know that we have been watching this spot. you've been reporting on this so closely. one can you tell us what time does it appear that these, these trips -- troops arrived. just trying to figure out 400 or so texas national guard members put on alert yesterday in anticipation of this. what time did they arrive and are they actively moving people out of the area? >> reporter: it was about 4:30 local time. about 6:30 in the morning your time, kaitlan, and they did have several hundred people lined up, and those folks who were preparing to be processed, some of them chose to continue on up to be processed. others decided to come back over on the mexican side. either way, the campfires were quickly extinguished by, what pee
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appears to be texas if national guard or u.s. military and putting in posts. you can see it right here. putting in large posts and then wrapping up massive, looks like rings of barbed wire to then build this infrastructure. it's interesting. point just past them up here. david, just show where these -- officials are. there's another chain-link fence that went up in recent days. we thought perhaps that was the infrastructure that was going to be used to help funnel some migrants in an orderly manner. now it looks like they really want to close this off, or at least significantly monitor it in a way that does not allow people to freely cross over as they were. because, kaitlan, just crossing this portion here is illegal, breaking the law. that's of course home migrants crossed over. cross from here in mexico into the u.s. and position themselves there until processing would start.
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that would go in waves. sometimes let several people in at a time and hold people waiting in an orderly fashion. and many times overwhelmed from numbers we've seen from this portion alone and yet still coming out trying to give people blankets. it's freezing cold. a lot still wet having crossed over. in a humanitarian way trying to facilitate this but now seemsen a significant law enforcement mobilization. >> saw some people, just the otheday reporting from this spot, changing their clothes. have you seen anything like this before since on the ground there reporting? >> reporter: nothing like this. no. this really indicates that this has taken a whole other tone right now. to your point of people shedding things. they don't come with along of belongings to this portion anyways and most have been families we've seen. look across here, might be a bit dark, but along the slope going up the hill where you kind of
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climb up. that's the entrance to where processing is taking place. you'll notice a lot of discarded blankets. they're make their way up and throw aside clothing, either wet or things they simply don't want to carry on with them. things given at shelters nearby and things taken with them. many from venezuela and had them with their month-long trek to get to this point. toss them aside and then continue up. nothing like this in our time being here, kaitlan, and this indicates there are serious kearns certainly at this portion, but perhaps shows what's happening along this border. so as to prevent what could be the end at some point of title 42. again, we know that the chief justice held it, frozen it in place, to not lift it, meaning that this trump-era policy widely used under president biden, so as to expel immediately migrants really in the name of covid prevention is still in place for now.
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and law enforcement -- for whatever reason, are now positioning themselves so that if it is lifted or even if folks on this mexican side, migrants planning to go over, having gotten word it's still in place and perhaps presuming tomorrow it will be lifted. in any case, preparations are under way. they're taking this seriously. >> david, it's don. got to ask you if you've been able to speak to any of the people trying to come over and i would imagine this, scenes like this aren't just playing out where you are? and if they have -- you said, if they don't know if they've gotten word it's frozen what have you. have you been able to speak with any of the people coming over, and are there multiple scenes like this playing out on the border, to your knowledge? >> reporter: to the latter part, don, working to get that information and trying to figure out who these law enforcement members are. clearly, texas law enforcement is a part of this, because seen
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logos on sides of vehicles. as to migrants, you can see a few. david, show over here quick. positioned themselves in blankets, made their way back over here. it's not clear why they didn't want to go through the processing. we did speak with them briefly. seemed really just shocked and stunned at what happened and really in just a matter of minutes. a lot of them sitting there trying to keep warm by fires on the u.s. side, several fires lit and suddenly everything extinguished. people said to go either into processing or move along back to the mexican side. seems migrants here we've spoken with are just trying to get more information. interesting. a lot are in touch with family or friends, people met on their journey to this point trying to figure out what's happening on the other side. a lot of the times that can take several hours if not days, because cell phones are taken away. people are put into the process of being considered for asylum and so that contact is not immediate. that's often times what this
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space has been on the mexican side. the staging ground to try to gather information and figure out, okay. can we now cross? and perhaps can we get in? as of now, just watching this unfold as we are live and seeing that this, what has been a very, very common, a very easy crossing that now a major barrier being put up. >> yeah. >> david culver, fascinating reporting. we'll stay in touch as you are seeing more on the ground an learning more. we'll stay in touch throughout the show. >> that's the scene along the border. now to washington. one big question lingers after the january 6 committee blistering report. will the former president be charged with a crime? look at how we got here and what happens next. >> every president in our history has defended this orderly transfer of authority, except one. >> a simple closing statement
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from the committee. all roads lead to donald trump. the executive summary putting a fine point on it. the evidence has led to an overriding and straightforward conclusion the central cause of january 6th was one man. former president donald trump, who many others followed. none of the events of january 6th would have happened without him. >> he lost the 2020 election and knew it, in the end he summoned a mob to washington and knowingly they were armed and angry pointed them to the capitol and told them to fight like hell. >> well, the committee referring four crimes to the justice department that they say the former president committed while trying to stay in the white house. the first charge alone obstruction of an official proceeding could carry a 25-year sentence. if charged and convicted, likely it would be life for donald trump. ours is not a system of
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justice will foot soldiers go to jail and the masterminds and ringleaders get a free pass. >> and the committee revealing new details from top advisers, even as some of trump's closest allies worried that the bogus fraud claims were damaging his legacy, but trump persisted. >> he said something along the lines of, um -- you know, nobody will care about my legacy if i lose. so that won't matter. the only thing that matters is -- is winning. >> the committee also determining that trump knew the fraud allegations he was pushing were false, but continued to amplify them. >> the committee has evidence that ex-president trump planned to declare a victory and unlawfully to call for the vote counting to stop, and that he told numerous allies about his intent in the weeks before the
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election. >> the committee also highlighting trump's $250 million fund-raising haul between the election and january 6th raised primarily off claims of election fraud that did not exist. questioning whether any of the money was used to pay lawyers who may have tried to obstruct the investigation citing evidence from one unnamed witness urged to stay loyal to trump. >> the witness believed, this was an effort to effect her testimony and we are concerned that these efforts may have been a strategy to prevent the committee from finding the truth. >> so now what? what happens now? all eyes are on the justice department with the federal investigation now being led by special counsel jack smith, it appears doj investigators are already looking at much of the conduct that the committee highlighted. whether the committee brings charges depends on whether the facts and evidence support a
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prosecution. attorney general merrick garland said that. he will make the ultimate call on charging decisions. for the committee the end is near. the current congress ends january 3rd. that's when the committee will cease to exist, but the full report comes out tomorrow and official transcripts and documents released before end of the year and that report will be one for the history books certain to be studied for generations. >> so for more perspective on what happened yesterday, bring in maggie haberman, cnn senior analyst and senior correspondent at the "new york times." what did you hear how the former president and his group was reacting yesterday? >> wasn't watching much, i believe. short from the ones seen. look, not happy about it. most of the people in his orbit were actually a little anxious about this heading into today. there was some prediction there might be some kind of rally around trump, which we saw right after the fbi search of mar-a-lago in august. i'm not seeing a lot of signs of that yet. it's possible it will come, but,
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look. everything with donald trump gets measured by, do i actually get charged? is this actually facing criminality? this is unprecedented. this was a really damning day for him, but does it move him closer to being indicted? i don't think we know yet. >> what about in the broader scheme of things? because this isn't the only thing facing him obviously. other things attorneys are much more concerned about. what about the idea of his political influence, given the charges are unprecedented with criminal referrals and other investigations talking a be. what does this mean for his third run? >> five weeks now and pretty lackluster so far. admittedly seemed distracted. not that much interested. see what it looks like headed into a new year. clear signs his influence in the party is waning and don't know what that will mean going into next year. do other challengers challenge him? does ron desantis even run?
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or do people ultimate decide to sit it out? no question that trump is a more diminished figure than at any point we've seen him since 2015. >> seems like there has been sort of a shift here. right? and i'm not sure if it's glacial yet, but i thought it interesting you tweeted these referrals underscore the reality that trump is facing diminished figure politically, you just said there. do you think it's possible that this could -- i'm not sure if it's so. that it could provoke a backlash and even strengthen the performer president? what's what happened before? i'm knoll surnot sure if that's this time. >> some republicans who don't want him didn't want to say it publicly to seem undermining the committee but concerned about that, because now we had seen that pattern so many times. where there is some rallying effect. i think that's something to watch for now. again, i'm not seeing signs of that yet. maybe it will come, but i think that is a clear measure of
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whether his influence waned. people are sick of kind of running to defend him all the time. >> isn't the, the silence is deafening. even though saying, this is a witch-hunt, a sham. you know, this is the same old talking points. silence is deafening kind of, and how he is diminished especially when it comes to the media and his voice. it's an interesting turn, because before he would have been standing in front of microphones everyone paying attention nap does not appear to be happening and allies out there saying, you know, this is terrible. we stand by him. yop see much of that. >> we'll see what happens next week. there are allies of his in the house among republicans who are planning on doing some kind of counterattack on this report. once the transcripts start coming out and we expect that to start tomorrow i expect start looking through interviews picking through things to say inconsistent sis highlight, look, this witness said x. ? . z, unfair to him, try to
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undermine cassidy hutchinson, the star witness. we don't know what it will look like. certainly the day after a real fatigue all around. >> yes. >> and hope hicks? that released yesterday testified much later in the january 6th investigation. i think late october. k kellyanne much later. what about her conversations with trump and with the trump attorney? >> two separate issues. one on matters of fact and actually discussed. told by one person who is aware of both of their testimony that actually their conversation whether to get trump to say something was not ahead of january 6th. actually during the riot and hershman trying to get trump to say something when that was taking place and wasn't before. what hicks was terned about, not concern there would be an insurrection at the capitol, just kearns of protests and counterprot counterprotests.
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more similar to charlottesville in 2016. still striking. no one more of a loyalist than her. hearing her talk how he was doing things that were undermining and damaging to himself and that she clearly didn't believe what he was saying, and, you know, to be clear. she was one of a cast of dozens at that point saying, this is not reality, but we never hear her speak publicly. striking. same with kellyanne conway we do hear speak publicly but not about stuff like that. >> not at all concerned about his legacy leading up to him actually saying i don't really care about my legacy. my leg acy is whether or not i become a winner? >> absolutely. nothing about his presidency accomplished. >> thank you. straight ahead, congressman adam schiff here to it discuss and what he thinks is the strongest evidence. and multiple airlines issues
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travel waivers for blizzards protected for the u.s. a potential bombshell one to hit the u.s. this week. in the weather center, jennifer, if you have a flight booked what should you know about this? >> if the upper midwest, northern plains, might want to be thinking about changing that, because the weather is about to really get rough across those areas. the storm system right now is just in its infanancy, expanding and strengthening in the coming days. winter storm advisories and watches across much of the northern plains and rockies. here we go. getting into thursday start to see blizzard conditions across portions of minnesota, chicago could experience blizzard conditions. this is friday morning. so thursday night into friday is really the rough timestamp for chicago. we could see up to a foot of snow across portions of the midwest. even the northern plains picking up quite a bit of snow and this snow dives far to the south touching even portions of arkansas and those windchills,
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kaitlan, anywhere from 40 to 50 degrees below 0 across portions of the plains and the midwest. >> oh, my gosh. >> get your xpljackets! jennifer gray, thank you. and new revelations from the january 6 committee in its final public session. for president trump's defense secretary mark esper joins with his thoughts. >> this story is fascinating. >> oh, yeah. >> i mean, i am obsessed with it. a new york republican who was just elected to congress might have some explaining to do about his resume. wait until you hear the details. >> i would say definitely. >> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... >> announcer: cnn weather brought toto you by -- they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: real?
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january 6, 2021 was the first time one american president refused his constitutional duty to transfer power peacefully to the next. in our work over the last 18 months, the select committee has recognized our obligation to do everything we can to ensure this never happens again. that was congresswoman liz cheney delivering blistering remarks during the january 6th meeting just as the committee formally recommend the doj charge the former president with four criminal charges for his involvement in the capitol insurrection. glad to have donald trump's former defense secretary esper. i want to talk about what's happening at the border as well. you considered trump a threat to democracy but weren't working in that role at the time. do you think these findings
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eliminate that threat? >> look, the committee did a solid job in terms of collecting the facts, getting testimony from witnesses. sorting through all of that and then presenting it over a period of months, culminating yesterday. i know interesting to see the written report as well. i think they made a very strong case. as we know, as you highlighted on the show, this is with doj now. it has been for a while. i think that they provided more information to the department of justice to do what they need to do, and to make the decisions they need to make going forward. >> so the question is, considering what happened, do you see the evidence there that the president incited or aided in insurrection? do you see that as the truth now? >> i've said that from the beginning when i first came out against the president last summer. when my memoir came out i thought he was unfit for office are and that his actions, not just on that day but in the weeks leading up to it. first of all denying election results. then inciting people to come to
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d.c. on that day and then on that morning, you know, inciting them once again to go to the capitol. for me, i concluded long ago that he was, that he had inspired this, and was, tried to obstruct congress and was, therefore, a threat to democracy. >> the question is, how will this play with the country? whether it's divisive? listen to the former vice president, what he said about potential charges for trump. here he is. >> i would hope that they would not bring charges against the former president. i don't -- look, as i wrote in my book, i think the president's actions and words on january 6th were reckless. but i don't know that it's -- it's criminal to -- >> got it. >> take bad advice from lawyers. i hope the justice department understands the magnitude, the very idea of indicting a former president of the united states. that would be terribly divisive for the country. >> what do you think of that? should that even be a consideration, sir?
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>> well, a couple things. first of all, no one is above the law in our country. that's a core american principle we need to abide by, and second, look, we have two immediate issues. the second thing, of course, there needs to be accountability always. not just for the past but for the future going forward. it's important that the american people understand this. but i think we have two issues. short-term issue, talked about it in previous segment. would republicans rally around donald trump in the wake of this report? i haven't seen it either, which is, i think, good news. the longer-term issue will be down the road probably middle of republican primary season who knows what will the doj do? do they have the facts and can they make a case against donald trump that they can win in court? then the political impact. what will that be? if they don't pursue the charges, if they do pursue charges and lose, or pursue the charges and win? those are all consequences they need to think through.
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>> so talk about what's happening at the border, and i'm not sure if you were able to hear the report moments ago and chief justice john roberts temporarily uplifting act 42. and pictures happening at the border. expecting a huge increase in migrant crossings if this is eliminating. what do you think what's happening at the border, and do you think these are the makings of a national security crisis? >> well, i've always said border security is national security. look, the problem is getting worse and worse. i think 2021, the highest number ever in u.s. history of encounters at the border, 1.7 million. this year 2.4 million and going higher in 2023. we have to get this under control.
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i supported the trump policy and troops on the border for decades. the bigger issue is failure of congress to act, to come up with a modern immigration policy laws to deal with this, to deal with the dreamers. to make sure we have a merit-based immigration system to secure the border. to finish putting bored security up. the bigger failure here is in washington and you're hearing from from governors in states ranging from california to texas and lawmakers of both parties. the biden administration needs to take this on and take it on in the coming congress. >> listen, you didn't place as much blame on the biden administration as many people do, and you did say, in your last answer, that you believed that it was a shared, that this is a shared issue by both democrats and republicans and especially congress. most will agree with you, but in this political realm, people like ta place blame. the former administration spent a lot of time on the wall and what have you. what do you think in the final
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analysis what will take care of what's happening at the border, because it is an issue. we still have to allow peeople legal immigration process in this country but still cannot absorb as many people expected to come over, if this policy is lifted? >> yeah. let me be clear. i do blame the biden administration. they neglected this problem two years now. as i said earlier, numbers have grown and grown. an incentive for folks from latin america to come into our country. we cannot handle the load. we've seen cities overwhelmed. cities on the border. cities in the northeast. so, yeah. i put the blame at their feet. >> with awe due respect, mr. esper, four years of the trump administration placed on wasted time with the border wall between the u.s. and mexico border, there could have been more meaningful immigration policy and discussions with the trump administration as well. >> i don't disagree with you. again, this has been a failure for decades with regard to immigration policy. i worked in the senate when this
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came up in early 2000. issue between the white house and administration is, goes back through many administrations. i disagree with regard to the trump administration. i don't think the border wall was a waste of time. it's an important issue, will be an important factor in any type of immigration policy agreement going forward. i supported border security. we need border security, that's the underpinnings of any deal between the congress and the white house. >> thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you. in a few minutes we'll gore to take you back out to david culver live at the mexico-u.s. border just moments from now. questions this morning about an incoming republican congressman's resume because of parts of it, well, just aren't adding up. what we're learning. plus, home prices are starting to come down. the promising data that home buyers, hopeful home buyers, need to know.
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all right. this story is just incredible. a newly elected republican congressman from new york is under scrutiny this morning because major aspects of his resume are being called into question, because of a damning report in the "new york times" that says key parts of george santos' biography sold to voters may largely be fiction. santos says he grass waited from baruch college in 2010. neither's "times" to kind a record with anyone of that 234 graduating that year. worked at goldman and sachs and they have no record of him working for. that's not all. a previous version of his website says he ran a nonprofit called pets of friends eyed 2013 to 2018 able to effectively rescue dogs, cats and according to the irs were not able to find any records showing that the
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group held the tax-exempt status mr. santos claimed. the "times" report did not respond to repeated requests to provide documents while campaigning. his attorneys said attempting to smear the congress ran with defamatory allegations. joining us, michael gold from the "new york times" who broke the story along his colleague grace ashberg. this is -- totally rocked the political world. i wonder how this started? what made you look into and kind of try to double check some of the things that seemingly people would not typically lie about? >> sure. i think after the elections in november we in new york were just curious about who some of these new congressmen were. saw a red wave really didn't materialize in the rest of the country and started exploring mr. santos to figure out what made him tick, hoping to get more about his background. not a ton out there in hi
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biography and trying to find out from his work on wall street. we reached out to citi group and goldman sachs, two big firms said he worked to get dates of employments and start to find former co-workers and led ut down the rabbit hole to check out other parts of his biography. we looked at other claims. checked status of friends of pets united with the irs and then just there was some indication that had not been registered as a 5013 c as claimed. the work stuff took us aback and made us open our investigation a little more. >> just seems like the misrepresentations, call them that, obviously we want him to respond and get to his responses in a moment, big and small. because he did say this about the pulse shooting that also doesn't check out.
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>> i can't speak for other people's actions or behaviors. i can speak for my own and i condemn what happened in colorado, just much like the pulse, at the pulse nightclub in orlando in 2016, which i happened to at the time have people that work for me in the club. my company at the time, we lost four employees that were at pulse nightclub. so this is a deja vu moment for me, not something that is really good even going over, because it just brings back such tragic memories. >> he says his company lost four employees. what did you find when you looked into that? >> i want to be clear about the context of this quote. mr. santos was on wnyc public radio here in new york and asked what it's like and how he's approach being an out gay congressman in the republican party when many republican lawmakers made viewed hostile to lgbtq people. he brought this up and i looked at victims of the pulse shooting
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and could not find four employees that worked for any of the company named in mr. santos's biography. some are incomplete. based what he's told us so far that claim didn't check out. >> you reached out to his campaign for this. >> yes. >> they said you're trying to smear him. he's been in the public eye several years. of course in their response to you they also quoted something they said was a winston churchill quote actually not a winston churchill quote, but has he actually denied that he made up parts of his biography? >> we've attempted to ask specific questions. sent them a detailed list of things we'd been reporting and have not received any specific responses to any of these things. the statement that his lawyer put out is almost identical to the one we got earlier this week. nothing specific is said about the accusations they're making about us smearing him. i don't know specifically what his lawyer is referring to. we'd love a chance to talk in more detail. >> are you surprised this didn't
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surface sooner? obviously, typical election, opponents do research on others, you see unflattering stories or basic elements lying what your bio is potentially? >> some on "news day" put tis out. his opponent robert zimmerman had been saying there were things he didn't think checked out but the campaign so focused on other issues. democrats in new york focusing on his ties to trump saying he was at the january 6th rally, he said he did not go to the capitol. focused on abortion stances and on crime and central to his campaign and other things overlooked or marginalized because of that. >> michael gold, fantastic reporting. thanks to you and your colleague grace. >> thanks. and ahead, we are going to get reaction from robert zimmerman, who you just heard michael talk about. he lost the election to george santos. we'll see what he says, next.
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still very fresh in people's minds. cnn's martin savidge joins us now. good morning to you. >> how did this happen? >> it is absolutely stunning to hear of such a security breach that would have taken place inside of a school district where just seven months ago you had 21 people, 19 students and two teachers killed by a gunman that was able to get into robb elementary school. so here's what we know. first i should stress students and staff were never in any danger. this was a test. it was only a test, but what they did was they went to three different schools. they won't say what schools in the uvalde school system, and there was a person who was posing as an intruder, an auditor who tried the doors. two of the schools passed were not able to get in. but at a third school at a cafeteria, at a loading dock area there was a door that was supposedly locked, but when this intruder yanked on the door, he was able to get in, and when he got in, he was quickly
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confronted. the interim superintendent said by cafeteria staff, if he had been armed, if it had been real, the consequences could have been disastrous. they discussed new security doors, talked about security cameras and talked about a reformed police department, but still the fact that an aurditor was able to gain access in that district was deeply troubling at this time. thank god it wasn't real. >> thank god. troubling to say the least, martin savidge, thank you. also this morning, the housing market becoming more favorable for some home buyers, but the overall picture is still pretty grim. uncertain with increased demand, rising interest rates, the war in ukraine. let's get to cnn's chief business correspondent christine romans. what does this housing data look like if you're someone who wants to buy a house, wants to sell a house maybe? >> it was a couple of years of runaway price appreciation. you guys have probably seen it. it was nuts far couple years, record high home prices, dujts
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pricing increases. some of these zip codes like in seattle and san francisco and phoenix, you said 10, 20, 30% price increases. that has stopped, and that's what we're talking about here. that has stopped, and there's a reckoning here where higher mortgage rates means more expensive to get in and buy a home, and so the home prices have really cooled off here. they're still rising, but more slowly. home sales have fallen, and next year great uncertainty about what happens with home prices. but home prices have sort of stalled here, and the national association of realtors says next year probably half the zip codes, you'll see a little bit of a price increase. half the zip codes, a little bit of a decrease. watch those big red hot markets i was talking about for the past couple of years, you could see bigger price increases there. >> there are people out there who still think i can get all of this money to sell my home. >> where are you going to move to? home prices are not moving down
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quickly either, so they're still historically high. >> what about people who flip houses? that's a big thing for a lot of people. they pay all cash. >> this has all slowed, the flippers have slowed. the corporate investment in the housing market has slowed. the second home market has slowed. everything has slowed down as we're trying to get a reckoning about where mortgage rates are -- >> is that good though? >> it needs to cool off. i'm sure there are some people who say this is terrible what's happening in the housing market for them. this was unsustainable, 3% mortgage rate and 20% annual price increases, that is unsustainable. we don't know what's going to happen next. is there going to be a big leg down as it corrects or is it going to be more gradual, no one knows for sure. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> we are live along the u.s./mexico border. live pictures for you there where officials appear to be blocking off one border crossing entrance.
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