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newsroom." i'm victor blackwell. happening right now a house committee is gathering to decide what to do with donald trump's taxes. live look here after years of delays and legal battles today the house ways and means committee will vote on whether to release details of his tax returns to the public. the committee just got access to the trump tax documents last month, unlike his predecessors he never released them as a candidate or while in office. straight to cnn's lauren fox on capitol hill. told us what we should expect from this meeting. what we're going to see and what we will not see as they continue to discuss. >> reporter: yeah, i mean that's an important point, victor. we are stand in the hallway where members have just filed in to begin this special meeting at 3:00. now, we expect that reporters and cameras will be kicked out of the room in just a few minutes. our colleague daniella diaz in

there saying members are sitting down getting ready to begin the meeting. once they gavel in they will go into executive sex a closed door meeting and deliberate for several hours to decide what to do about the president's tax returns. the former president's tax returns. are they going to reveal any of the information? are they going to reveal some kind of report or the raw returns? that we do not know at this moment. once they are done deliberating they will invite press back into the room, cameras back into the room and they will have a vote to decide what steps they are going to take. obviously this is a momentous day years in the making. the court fight happening for several years after house ways and means chairman richard neil requested the former president's tax returns. they are clearing the room right now, victor. i think that's important because this is exactly what we expected to happen. we will keep you posted and updated as we get more information. >> all right, lauren fox, stay with us. we want you as part of this

conversation and bring in now michael d'antonio, elli honig ad gloria borger. i'll start with you and big picture, donald trump has been promising to release his tax returns for a decade now. first he linked them to former president obama's birth certificate, and he said if he releases that i'll release my tax returns and he's a candidate again. significance now of seeing these returns potentially. >> well, it's usually significantly for donald trump. he has been saying that he has been under what he calls a routine audit by the irs now for years and years. then he said, well, these are very complex. it would take a long time to compile them. i'm sure they are complex. we've also seen his longtime accountant just testify in the case against the trump organization and say that, look,

this is a person who has claimed losses from the years 2011 to 2018. very significant losses, i might add. and he is someone who has also said, look, i'm really rich and that has been a part of his whole brand which is that he's a wealthy guy and when "the new york times" reported that he paid $750 in taxes for a couple of years, his answer was when raised in a debate, i'm smart. essentially he knows how to game the system and he was applauded by supporters for that. so this is a big moment for donald trump and his own sort of self-identity, who he is, what he's about, which is how rich he is. >> yeah, i assume what we're seeing here, somebody correct me if i'm wrong, are those the actual returns that were just rolled in? we have that as they're rolling it into the meeting. elie, lauren laid out the options here if they're going to release the returns, if they're

going to release a summary or some other format. what are the legal distinctions of how they release these? we talked last hour, potential legal recourse that the former president might have based on what's released. >> i fully understand the need and the desire by the public to see these returns, especially back when donald trump was a candidate and i guess he's a candidate again. however, i cannot foresee what the legal justification this committee would offer in order to release these tax returns. there's a couple things behind it. the committee only has tax returns as i result of a prolonged fight. the committee correctly i think pointed to a federal law that says, we get an individual's tax returns from the irs upon request. they shall furnish it up. the supreme court agreed with the ways and means committee. yes, you can get individual return, however, that very same law says you have to maintain them confidentially, you can only deal with them in closed session. the other thing is during that court fight, the committee

repeatedly said in their briefs to the supreme court and other federal courts, the reason we want these returns is not because we're trying to investigate donald trump or expose him but because we need to legislate. they've not legislated, victor. here we are on the eve of this committee's time as the majority democratic majority running out and now they're talking about turning it over to the world. if they are going to release these i'm curious to see what their legal justification is. >> all right. michael, you're up next and you obviously as the trump biographer, you know how important a potential release of these returns with the details would be to him. we've got the criminal referrals that happened just yesterday. you've got so many lawsuits and investigations, place this on the scale of urgency and severity if this information were to become public? >> well, obviously it's the first item up on the agenda, so

it's a vital importance right now and i expect that it's a gloria said really essential and essential attack on his identity. i don't know if he's prepared for that, a regular person would be prepared for that, but he kind of wings everything so he may act very wounded. i think he will be very wounded. this in my mind goes back to about 2005 or '06 when he responded in the deposition about his net worth and he said it all depended on how he feels, so so much about him depends on this emotional investment in this identity of great wealth. i think that it is shocking that this is being revealed and if it is revealed in its entirety as elie said, that will be a very unusual event and that may be

the core response that once again i'm being persecuted. once again those awful democrats don't know when to stop and that could rally his base and rally his fund-raising, so it won't be a total loss for him. >> we're going to hear from and play it again what we played last hour from the chairman of this committee, richard neil in just a moment but, lauren, tell me what the republicans are saying? we heard from the ranking member kevin brady just a few minutes ago. what is their defense of the former president and is it a unified united defense on this committee? >> yeah, what you saw just a few minutes before this meeting, victor, was republicans including the leading republican kevin brady going to the mics and arguing this isn't even about former president donald trump anymore but they believe it's about protecting taxpayers across the country and the

privacy of their information. they're sort of making this sliply slope argument. if they make this what is to stop them in the future of releasing tax information of other political potential foes so that's what they're arguing again, not making it about donald trump but taxpayers at large, victor. >> let's listen to kevin brady here. >> our concern is that if taken, this committee action will set a terrible precedent that unleashes a dangerous new political weapon that reaches far beyond the former president and overturns decades of privacy protections for average americans that have existed since the watergate reforms. >> and republicans, gloria, have used this line before in defense of the former president, if they're coming for me with this search of mar-a-lago they can come to you next. if they come for my tax returns

they can come for yours. what is the potential fallout once republicans take control of that house and with two weeks from now? >> katie, bar the door. i think that they're going to use this weapon against other political leaders. i think the difference between donald trump and other former presidential candidates and as president is that he refused to do what presidential candidates do. they're not required to do it. they do it because the country should know whether they have ties to foreign governments, whether they have potential conflicts of interest, financially, in their tax returns, donald trump decided he couldn't do it because he said he was being audited routinely and so you've never seen that from donald trump. on the other hand i see what elie is saying, which is that congress is saying that they're trying to look at the effectiveness of a rule that

requires presidents to release -- that requires them to look at presidential tax returns for these conflicts and maybe the rule hasn't been enforced, et cetera, et cetera, so, you know, the question is whether they wanted his tax returns and they use this as an excuse, but this did take years and he was a president and a presidential candidate and i think that's what's at the bottom of this, i really do. i think they believe that presidential candidates and presidents ought to be very transparent about how they're making their money and where they're making their money or where they made their money. >> no policy will come out of this. i want to ply as promised this is richard neil, chairman of house ways and means. this is april of 2019 talking about what is now come to fruition. let's watch. >> you cannot summarily or arbitrarily just release the tax

forms if one were to receive them that is a clear violation of federal law, so that's why i think it would be a good idea to have professor amounts who are nonpartisan to review the forms and then the ways and means committee would have the opportunity at that point to decide through an up -or-down vote with full transparency whether they ought to be released to the american people. >> does that make sense? >> he's correct in saying we, the ways and means committee, have to keep them confidential and offers this creative solution of let's bring in outsiders to give us a thumb's up or thumb's down. even if you take it as a given he should have disclosed it, there was no law. if they want to pass the law, god bless. the law says that only under very narrow circumstances can ways and means get these tax returns. they are very valuable, private, confidential documents and you can only get them if you're going to legislate and for the

ways and means committee to say we want these because we're going to legislate. no legislation, we're not looking to expose donald trump and then hypothetically if they put them out there and disregarding the law that says if ways and means get these, you have to keep them confidential they're essentially creating this end run around the law and i think it's a legitimate point we heard from the ranking member there that the precedent here is going to be really problematic. what's to stop any majority in the house, republican or democrat, from doing the same, going to house, ways and means and going to irs and say we'd like the returns of these five individuals and then putting them out there? you can't say donald trump is really bad. a principle is a principle and a law has to be a law. >> the beginning says that the treasury shall provide, shall furnish the end of the sentence says you can't hand them out without the consent of the person who is referenced in those returns. all right. elie, michael, lauren, gloria,

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in arizona u.s. border patrol started releasing migrants into the streets of yuma. they said this could become a daily occurrence. the biden administration is up against a deadline to respond to

the supreme court about title 42. this is the trump era policy that was a mechanism to quickly expel migrants who entered the country illegally citing pandemic concerns. it was scheduled to expire tomorrow, but chief justice john roberts filed an order to keep the policy in place. we also learned today that president biden will soon travel to mexico city for the north american leaders summit and discuss ways to jointly respond to irregular migration. rosa flores is live in the border town of brownsville, texas. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: well, victor, i think what's important to note is that all along the u.s./mexico border, the response is going to look different. the scene is going to look different. i want to show you around. this is the border wall as you mentioned, i'm in brownsville, texas, and meets the port of entry which meets mexico which is behind me. we have eyes in the sky in mexico thanks to our cnn drone pilot al meshburg.

i want to show you pictures because there are thousands of migrants who are camped out in mexico. these are mostly from venezuela and haiti. i've been talking to them by phone and they tell me they're actually happy. they're joyous that title 42 is lifting which is counterintuitive because when you think about it, title 42 allows border patrol to swiftly return them back to mexico but say the u.s. government has been offering so many exceptions to title 42 they would rather wait in camps for an exception to title 42 because they want to enter the u.s. legally. so where would they do it that? if you walk with me and look through these -- the border wall you'll be able to see the international crossing. now, if we could take a live picture from our cnn engineer, michael humphrey, he has a mass cam where we can get eyes in the sky as well. this is where the migrants that i've been talking to say, that's where they want to go and seek asylum. they want to be able to walk up to this port of entry and ask a

border agent for asylum. they want to enter legally. now, their concern was that if title 42 does lift and the united states does not allow them to do that exactly to go to the port of entry they were preparing, this is according to migrants i've been talking to on the mexico side, they were preparing inflatable mattress, life jackets, ropes to cross the river illegally because they don't want to do that but felt they were going to be forced to do that if they weren't allowed to enter the u.s. legally. that's what the scene looks like where i am. it looks different in el paso. hundreds of national guard members were deployed there last night and the scene looks different but the point i want to make, it does look different all along the border and back in 2020 when governor greg abbott launched his operation lone star

which in essence was to fortify resources along the u.s./mexico border, that is what we've been seeing ever since so even though you don't see national guard members behind me there are those that are deployed here and all along the border as governor greg abbott invested $4 billion in border security and sent hundreds of boots on the ground and that's not just national guard members but texas state troopers. you will see them all along the border. he has done that during other surges and the final point i want to make, victor, the reason why that's important is because when there are migrant surges in one portion of the border and border patrol is busy processing them the national guard members, what they do is fill in the gaps of national security to make sure that the southern border is safe. >> important context for us, rosa flores in brownsville, thank you. the uncertainty of title 42

is having impacts beyond the southern border. new york city mayor eric adams says he expected more than a thousand migrants to arrive this week. and a source tells cnn the city is going to get a substantial of the $800 million for sanctuary cities in the spending bill. paulo sandoval is following this for us. if this continue, there will have to be a cut of some services to new yorkers. this, of course, top of mind as people continue to come in. >> reporter: so funding will be key. but it's important to remind viewers that title 42 is this public health authority that is almost a band-aid that sooner or later is about to come off and thought it would come off tomorrow but the development in court, we have to see what happens after 5:00. a lot of uncertainty but at the end of the day new york city is one of the cities still proceeding with planning on how

to bolster to receive an increase in numbers. eric adams, the mayor in new york city recognize that is a surge there where the rest of our colleagues are along the border almost guarantees we'll see a surge here as we saw earlier this summer. that's why you've been seeing theesfeld calls for increased funding. extra funding we learned will be included and likely to be included in that omnibus bill. a source close to chuck schumer telling my colleague that the new york center managed to negotiate an increase in the total funding usually afforded to cities that bring in some of tease asylum seeker, about 150 million to close to $800 million and learned that new york city would likely receive a large portion of that to assist in the city's efforts which, again, we hear time and time again since we began this increase number of venezuelan migrants the need to great to fund these programs because you use such a key word, uncertainty. that's almost the word of not just the day but of this week when we're talking about title

42. there's so much uncertainty. not just in the border regions there, the camps that i've been to visit. the camps that our colleagues are bringing some amazing reporting from, but in new york city i learned during a hearing yesterday that in another venezuelan asylum seeker took their own life on monday at a city shelter. clearly there was a sense of frustration among many of these families that have already made it here and they don't have the ability to work legally right now. but sadly that death is also reminding a lot of folks that it's more than just funding. you need increase shelter capacity which the city hopes to do for a post-title 42 climate and increased need in social workers as well to hear the concerns of many of these men, women and children as well about what they've seen on their way here and thetainty they still face. >> is the second migrant death by suicide in four months. let's bring that to the conversation.

polo, thank you very much. mark levine is the manhattan borrow president in new york. i want to save time to talk about social services but what we've learned about a big chunk of his $800 million coming to new york, does money solve it? does that -- is that enough and does that do what new york needs to be dong? >> well, victor, i'm proud of how new york has stepped up to welcome these migrants with open arms. city government also regular new yorkers who volunteered and donated just to an incredible degree, but we need help. we need federal financial assistance and news that that may be coming in the omnibus bill is welcome. we need more than financial assistance, though, victor. we need a national plan on how to redistribute migrants who are here seeking asylum through cities and states across the country that have capacity. right now we've outsourced that to governor abbott whose motives

are purely political and cynical and xenophobic. we need to have a national plan to distribute these arrivals based on capacity, based on family networks and finally we need these migrants to get work permits. they're qualified for that as asylum seekers, i've met so many of them. the first question they have is how can i work? so we need a lot of support from the federal government for this wave which is already started to arrive in new york city. >> so the money, the big chunk which is the clearest description we have of how much new york will get, it's in this bill that hasn't even been voted on yet so it will take a little time to come to new york, but right now, give us an idea of the capacity to accept more who are coming as the mayor says, he expects a thousand this week, there was the randall's island facility for 500 single men. is that full? do you have places to put these people in manhattan? >> well, we had over 30,000

asylum seekers arrive. 20,000 are still in our shelter system and even to accommodate that number as required some emergency measures like contracting with empty hotels, there is almost no capacity left in that system so we're going to have to take additional emergency measures such as contracting with further hotels, the facility you referenced on randall's island was closed after the wave died down last month. we hope that won't be necessary because hotels are preferable but we just don't know how many will arrive. we already have seen an increase. yesterday we got four buses, over 200 individuals, it could be a thousand a day arriving and that's going to require really dramatic measures that we're going to need federal support for and need federal funding, and fema has a program it's the emergency food and shelter program and texas has been

benefits from that for years. new york needs reimbursement for housing, food, medical care, social services and much else, that's the only way we can manage this crisis. >> polo and i just discussed the second migrant death by suicide that was announced just yesterday. in four months, talk more about the social services offered because as our reporters have shared these traumatic stories about how some of these people who are trying to get away from the threat of death and they arrive here in the u.s., the things they've gone through, what's offered once they arrive in new york? >> well, these are human beings who are fleeing horrible conditions and have been through a very difficult journey often on foot through half a dozen countries, polo has done incredible reporting on the human stories here and families are arriving with real needs.

over 70 of the arrivals on buses to new york needed immediate transport to emergency rooms because of medical crises. many, many more are dealing with mental health challenges, of course, two risk cases of people who have died by suicidement many more and especially young people who have been through almost unspeakable trauma on their journey, we have over 5,000 in our schools and have to provide all sorts of social work and guidance counselors. there's intensive resources needed and want to emphasize i'm confident these arrivals will be a huge net contributor to new york city. they will be in addition to our workforce, they will pay taxes, they want to provide for their families. we just need more support, work permits and more from the federal government to make that happen. >> all right, manhattan borough president mark levine, thank you. thank you, mark. so what is the doj's next move? the january 6th committee has now referred former president

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committee's investigation, as far as the referrals go, victor, i think most of the stuff that the committee referred is an area that the justice department is already investigating, so the important part, i think, is where they might diverge and on that one is probably the insurrection charge that the committee recommended, that's a very difficult law for the justice department which has looked at that law, and they haven't actually charged anyone in all of the hundreds of people they've charged in the january 6th cases. >> all right. we'll see if an indictment comes in. evan, thank you. so, what will elon musk do after twitter users voted to oust him? we'll discuss next. i'd like to thank our sponsor liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance,

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twitter users have voted for elon musk to step down as head of the company. now, in a poll musk asked users if he should step down. more than 17 million users voted. 57% said, yeah, kick rocks, 43% said, no, you should stay. musk said he would abide by the results but a day later he seemed to agree with one user that suggested only paying subscribers should get to vote and he responded good point. twitter will make that change. sara fischer joins us now. what is going on now? he says, i want to know what you

think and i will abide by it and now he's switching it and does this by poll. this popular approach. what do you see happening here? >> yeah, it's a great question, victor, i think he always planned to step down as ceo. it's something he communicated to investors when he was raising money. it's something that he communicated in court when tesla investors were complaining that he wasn't paying enough attention to that company but what he did was he staged this poll, sort of as a little gimmick to see what people think, if they think he's doing a good job. the search was already happening for a new ceo. and the only reason we haven't heard from elon musk yet is because he's just waiting to figure out the right person, the right successor before he officially steps down. >> is there an obvious short list? >> you know, it's funny, there isn't. that's because when elon musk came in in the early november to sort of take over the company doing all those layoffs he brought with him a pack of people that he knows and trusts from silicon valley, people that he's worked with at spacex,

former twitter folks and sources told us some of them are no longer involved so that list is getting even smaller of the people who would potentially be named ceo. in addition to that some of the elon musk insiders, you think about david sax has communicated they don't want to work for twitter full time. they already have full time jobs at other companies, so it's unclear who he is going to pick. what we do know elon musk will remain the majority shareholders of this company and remains in charge even if he's not ceo so it's unclear how much power that new ceo will really have. >> so tesla has been downgraded on wall street exclusively because of what's going on over at twitter. we talked about when you were here in studio last about the financial element and people who were saying, you're spending too much time there. you should be taking care of this baby here. what's the significance of this downgrade? >> well, it's been a rocky year for tesla in part because all

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jubilation on the streets of buenos aires as the fans gave the soccer team a hero's welcome. thousands of people lined the streets for the team's victory parade today, and it was so crowded that the officials say that team's bus was stuck. superstar lionel messi and the team's coach flew over the parade in a helicopter. if you are hoping to scoop up a jersey, adidas has sold out world wide. james cameron wants to put a debate to the end for the film world "titanic," if jack could have survived if he scooted rose over on the door. this has stirred up fans including actress keke palmer.

>> i will stay here, rose, and home boy died holding on to it. she had to ul p his hands off, because it was so frozen. i am thinking, girl, you ain't thought of taking turns? she let my brother freeze. she let him freeze to death before her very eye, and she watched him. that is the cold part of it. she watched my man. >> i love how you launched a campaign against rose. have you run into kate winslet? >> i haven't, but when i do, it is going to be a day. >> i hope i am there. >> why didn't you ask james cameron for a better ending? >> well, i love it, and cameron did a forensic study with a hypothermia study with the raft, and the two stunt people with the same body masses with winslet and dicaprio and only one could have survived, so there you have it, and the results are part of the upcoming national geographic upcoming film.