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>> for the first time since russia invaded his country, tried to take the capital, and topple his government, and reportedly tried to take his life, ukraine's president is leaving his country, and according to two sources, already on his way here. john berman here in for anderson. to say volodymyr zelenskyy's journey could be risky is no overstatement. then again, so is his visit today to bakhmut on the line to award combat medals to the troops. to say he is expected to visit to the white house and address the congress tomorrow would be moments of the highest significance and drama is no understatement. it certainly has echoes of winston churchill's christmas time visit to washington in 1941, just two weeks after japan's attack on pearl harbor, and americas entry into the second world war. he made that crossing on the royal navy battleship, duke of
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york, the crossing took ten days. president zelenskyy's journey will be a lot shorter, but the stakes could not be higher. cnn's phil mattingly, at the white house, starts us off tonight. phil, what do we know about this visit which is already beginning? >> president zelenskyy already on his way to the united states, according to two sources. while the history and symbolism are undoubtedly very obvious here. the substance here is also critical. john, to remind, president biden and president zelenskyy have spoken by phone more than a dozen times, spoken by video conference several times as well. they have not met in person since the invasion of ukraine. president biden has been explicit that the u.s. support, which has now totaled more than 20 billion dollars in defense and security assistance over the course of the last nine months, would last for, quote, as long as it takes. that will be on vivid display when the two leaders are standing right next to each other tomorrow, here on these white house grounds. there are two elements of this.
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one, the actual direction doing president biden and zelenskyy, and their teams. they are expected, according to sources, to be significant substantive interactions between the two on how things should be moving forward, going forward. but there's also the critical element, and that is the new addition of new defense a that is going to becoming ukraine's way with the president expected to announce an additional 1. 8 billion dollars in u.s. assistance. that's on top of the 20 billion that's already been put in place. president zelenskyy is also tentatively scheduled to give joint address to congress at the same moment, john, lawmakers are considering inundated national 45 billion dollars in ukraine aid, underscoring the relationship and just the scale of the u.s. support for this ongoing war. >> the fact the united states is the first country that zelenskyy is choosing to visit since the invasion began, that tells you everything to begin with. that's 1. 8 billion dollars, this new round of assistance, what exactly does ukraine get out of that? >> this is, i think, the biggest component.
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here that face to face is nothing to scoff at, but what is actually inside this 1. 8 billion is a significant as it gets. in fact, it's as far as the united states has gone when it comes to the types of weapon systems that it's willing to provide ukraine. this will include, the patriot missile defense systems that president zelenskyy for months has banged on the table and ask to be united states to agree to send their way. with something, for months, the biden administration was not willing to consider, given concerns about escalation, or jess the pure scale of time it takes to train up on those systems. that will now change. it's been a process over the course of the last several weeks. president biden will make that announcement, that 1. 8 billion dollars includes patriot missile systems. it's become critical over the course of the last several weeks, something president zelenskyy said personally, to president biden, by phone, just a couple of weeks ago, given the russian ramping up of those attacks on civilian infrastructure. president biden now willing to go that route, also will include precision bomb kids to add as well. 1. 8 billion dollars. the number is big. the scale, overall, of u.s.
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assistance, has been enormous. the scale of what this specific weapons system actually brings to the table, it simply has no president up to this point, john. >> phil mattingly, chief white house correspondent, fast moving developments, keep us posted, fell. let's go to cnn's oren liebermann at the pentagon with more on these patriot missiles, and the difference they might make, oren liebermann. talk to us about the patriot missiles which many of us learned about in the first gulf war. we're talking 30 years ago. >> they've only grown more capable since then, and more able to do their mission, and that mission is a long range aerial defense system. this would sit almost like an extended dome on top of the systems the u.s. has already provided, a more advanced, more capable, and again, longer range system to protect ukraine 's air defenses, to protect ukraine on the ground, it's civilians, and most importantly, at this point, it's infrastructure, it's energy, and water that has become the target repeatedly of russian barrage as we've seen play out over the course of the last several weeks at this point.
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it would offer a longer range capability for ukraine, to better defend its skies. that would sit on top of the u.s. provided nasams, medium-range systems, and shorter range systems, the stingers, that have already been provided, not only by the u.s., but other countries as well. as phil pointed, out these are complex systems, they take dozens of soldiers to operate, the training, the maintenance, the sustainability, all of that will take time. the u.s. will try to get that done as quickly as possible. crucially, as phil pointed, out it's not just the patriots. there is precision bombing kits, known as j. dams, joint direct attack munitions, that will also be provided to ukraine. that, it fills another capability, the ability to strike russian fortifications, russian positions, at range, and with precision. we've seen other systems, that the u.s. has provided to fill this role. four example, the himars, perhaps the most critical system that has been provided at this point. the excalibur provision of chilly rounds. this will give them more of that capability that has made such a difference on the
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battlefield. it comes with its own challenges, the ukrainians will have to figure out how to adopt, or adapt these kits, rather, two soviet-era fighter jets that they have. we've seen them do it once. we will see them do it again. with the j dams and crucially, the patriots will help defend this guy's. >> oren liebermann for us at the pentagon, oren, thank you. joining me now is cnn military analyst, retired army general, former nato supreme allied commander, wesley clark, and arizona democratic congressman ruben geico who serves on the house armed services committee, and recently led a bipartisan congressional delegation to kyiv. congressman, i have to say, when we first heard the news of zelenskyy coming here to the united states, i sat up straight. this is a big deal for a guy who hasn't stepped foot outside his country since the russian invasion. what's the significance, and your mind? >> the significance in my mind is that what he's trying to do is draw direct correlation between our support and the survival and support and victory of ukraine.
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we have been very, very tactical in how we provide weapons to ukraine. it's been extremely palpable. it clearly has been put to their advantage. they have put russia on its back heels. there needs to be more done. when i was there, just about a weekend a half ago, what i heard from ukraine military, ukraine civil government, is that, you know, they can defeat russia on the battlefield. russia knows that. now russia is trying to punish the economy, trying to punish every day ukrainian citizens to try and destroy their will to fight, and their ability to even arm themselves through economic activity. that is the next step that we need to do, give them the weaponry to defend their energy grid, their water grid, and, number two, give them the capability to really reach out and touch the russians, to a point where it makes some very vulnerable, especially if they're trying to do a counteroffensive, which is something we've been hearing about. >> general clark, president zelenskyy was in bakhmut today,
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which is the side of the fiercest fighting of the war so far. what kind of a risk is he taking by getting on a plane, traveling halfway around the world, to the united states, the personal risk for him, and also the risk being gone from his country for any period of time? >> i think it's going to be a quick trip for president zelenskyy. i think the risk is minimal. he's got a battle-tested chain of command over there. he's got hard fighting troops. they're doing their best. this is a window of opportunity for ukraine, and a window of danger as well. because russia is weak, russia will be be stronger. this is a period where the united states needs to pour in the support. i'm pleased about the patriots and jay, dams and other things. ukraine also needs more utterly ammunition, it needs longer range systems. they have to be able to win the counter battery fire, they're not winning that right now.
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there is a lot of needs. this is the window. president zelenskyy knows, that we are going to -- he is going to defeat with u. s. support russian aggression in ukraine. he's got to have that support over the next 90 days. wait until the summer, it will be an entirely different battlefield. >> congressman -- congressman, we had to reach back to world war ii. the conjure up images of winston churchill coming to the united states in december of 1941 to find a historical comparison. here what do you think it might be like for those sitting in the chamber with him tomorrow? >> number one, and i hope he talks about what they've been able to accomplish with the support of the united states, and the shared interest we have. for the first time in a while, we could be very proud of the fact we are leading the free world in a good cause, a cause of real, what i would say, good versus evil, autocracy versus democracy. look, ukrainians aren't naive. they understand they're not a perfect nation.
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they want to be a perfect nation, they want to keep striving on that. when i was there, and i was talking about the future weapons to stem they want to worry about, they were talking about, potentially, what they could do in terms of reforms in the future, to make sure they could root out corruption. this is a country that wants to be aligned with western values, and wants to defeat autocracy, both inside and outside of ukraine. >> general clark, quickly, the patriot missile, what could that change on the battlefield? >> i don't think it's going to change anything on the battlefield because they're not going to be used that way. it could provide greater protection for kyiv, and certainly it is a deterrent against the russians bringing in iranian ballistic missiles. really, that's its most important contribution. if the russians bring these ballistic missiles and, this patriotism is what's going to be used to knock them down.
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>> all right, general wesley clark, congressman, thank you both so much for being with us. >> thank you for your time. >> next, we have more breaking news starting with our first chance coming shortly to finally see years worth of donald trump's tax returns. later, a cnn exclusive, cnn has learned who in the trump white house, or who from the trump white house tried to sway the testimony of star witness cassidy hutchinson. the men's title, a bit of a shocker, and you will see the story here.
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tonight after a nearly four year court battle an hours of debate, the democratic-controlled house wheezing means committee voted tonight to release among other related items, the former president's 2015 through 2020 tax return. and details on what and when the applications in just a moment and republicans in that committee objected saying it sets a bad precedent and while the former president set a precedent of his own being the first decades not to voluntarily release his taxes and fighting through the courts, the idea of lawmakers in either party being able to make -- matter of public record -- it does raise questions. what is beyond question, though, is when it comes to voluntarily releasing his taxes, the way every president and most presidential candidates have done since richard nixon, donald trump gave voters in the 2016 campaign that bait and switch. it's kind of a modified version because even as he was promising to release his taxes, he still managed to sprinkle in a few escape clauses overlapped with these excuses for not releasing them. so it is all a bit of a mess.
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that said, here is the promise. >> if i decide to run for office, i will produce my tax returns absolutely. and i would love to do that. >> i would certainly show tax returns if it was not for cis necessary -- i have everything all approved and very beautiful and we will be working over that in the next period of time. my returns are extremely complex, i will make a determination at the right time. i have a very complex system of taxes. her 33,000 emails have been deleted, as soon as she releases them i will release my tax returns. >> so, that was the promise. until it wasn't. >> i am under audit. when you are under audit, you don't do it, but i am under audit. i would love to give them about i am not going to do it while i am under audit. it is very simple. i am under a routine audit and it will be released as soon as the audit is finished it will be released.
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when the audit is really complete i will release it. i'm not seeing the tax returns because as you know they are under audit. actually i paid my taxes but this will serve as my tax returns it, is under audit and it has been under audit for a long time, the irs does not treat you well. which brings me to tonight. cnn's lauren fox joins us now with the breaking news. lauren it, is a bit complicated but what did the house ways and means committee just vote moments ago to release? >> well, we expect that any minute we are going to get a report from the house ways and means committee that is going to summarize a couple of things, but this committee voted first to release a report as well as the underlying tax returns that they had requested, that of course extremely significant john, for all the reasons you just reminded viewers about. former president had promised repeatedly to release those returns, never did on the campaign trail. while they are going to come,
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at some point, with some heavy redactions. now first off we expect that report any minute from the house ways and means committee. it will summarize their findings, it will also include a report from the joint committee on taxation. that is the official tax committee up here on capitol hill. that will include a report as well. then we will be working to redact personal information from the tax returns, and then at some point in the next hour or days we will start to see those. so very, very significant, this development here on capitol hill. the committee voting along party lines to release this information. we should note, this is a years long court battle from the chairman of the ways and means committee richard neil. he said just moments ago in a press conference that this clearly showed that a mandatory audit program which requires every president and vice president's tax returns to be reviewed by irs was not working properly. that was the whole crocks of why he requested these tax returns to begin with. he is arguing that they did not
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do the kind of scrutiny that they should have and therefore the ways and means committee is also going to move forward with some kind of legislation. we should know though, the republicans take control of the house in just a couple of weeks so there's just not much time, in fact no time to pass legislation up here. this is really going to be symbolic. >> so, the documents and the timeline you just laid out. is that everything that the ways and means committee they have in their hands? are they holding anything back? >> well, that is what i was just told from dan kildee who is a member on the committee. he said it is everything neil requested. they have to do some heavy redactions because there is personal information obviously included in someone's tax returns. so that is why it might take additional time. but it is underlying documents. and we should note it is also work files about any ongoing audits that was happening. that might really include a treasure trove of information beyond just looking at someone 's tax returns. >> and asking out for a friend
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in the control room and assignment desks across america, literally any minute now they will release the summary? >> they are going to release the summary any minute john. of course, any minute could mean right now, it could mean 30 minutes from now, but they are planning to release that tonight. >> a congressional minute can last a long time. but it could be a busy night for forensic reporting. lauren fox, on capitol hill, thank you very much for helping us understand what we can expect. joining us now is trump -- biographer michael antonio, author of high crimes, the corruption impunity and impeachment of donald trump. with me here is ady cornish, cnn correspondent and host of the assignment podcast. so michael look, you have been covering this type of thing for years when it comes to donald trump. you just heard lori talk lauren fox report what we are going to see. what is your reaction? >> the first thing i can think of is, trump is probably regretting resisting turning over the tax returns earlier,
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because now i think he motivated the committee, he motivated them to pursue him all the way to the supreme court and get these documents. and now i think they feel that the american public has a right to them. he is also forced by various institutions including courts and congress to make efforts to normalize his behavior and make his behavior normal, so here is a person who said he was going to release the taxes as all presidential candidates have since nixon. he didn't do it. he said well, come catch me if you can and they caught him. so it is going to be torture for him going forward as everyone with an ax to grind or a forensic reporting is going to be ferreting out his secrets. >> so, audi cornish,
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republicans have been complaining -- if house ways and means can release a private citizen's tax returns. the issue whether or not citizens should release tax returns, there is wide agreement among people -- that candidates and perhaps president should. but whether or not they can be compelled to is a separate issue. republicans perhaps our threatening turn about here. do you think we can expect them, when they take control of the house in weeks, to release private citizens tax returns? president biden by the way has released 24 years of tax returns so, nothing they will do there. >> this is not a random person right? this request came when the person was running for office, later was in office. there is a specific process for audits of presidents. and in fact, the point of it is to show that nobody is above the law. here is a special process to handle this person who is in a particular position. there is some irony here that all of these years later, as he has launched his second run, here this issue is facing him again. and the supreme court did not step in to save him. he has also lost on the issue
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of a special master for reviewing the documents coming out of mar-a-lago. now there is the criminal referrals that have come out of the house select committee, for a person who has just launched a another campaign for president, it is kind of hit after hit for the last couple of weeks. >> so michael, the former president fought this as adi audi cornish was saying it is you have been saying. he fought it for a long, long time. do you think it is more of a concerned about legal exposure or more, he just did not want people to know how much or little he had? >> well, we all know that his ego depends on his wealth. so it is a story that i've told before. in the mid 2010s he gave a deposition where he claimed his net worth went up and down depending on his mood so. if you felt good when it went up in the morning his net worth was three billion dollars more. now that wasn't the ridiculous statement but i think applied
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to his self image, it's explains a lot. so, that is a big part of it. but he has also espoused exposed, interestingly enough, with with this potential fraud suit greene brought by his niece mary, who lost and one round in the court but may get more information to power her appeal, and then imagine how many people who he has done business with, who are going to pour over these documents and determine hey, this loss that he claimed when he dealt with me wasn't really a loss and now i have a claim of fraud to. this is a very bad circumstance for donald trump. >> i am glad glad you brought this up because that is an issue. one of the reasons why we care as americans about whether our president has foreign investment that can be leveraged against him, whether there are conflicts of interest, there is a public interest in seeing what candidates and what
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presidents have in terms of their finances. i think where the republicans will have a point is that originally democrats said look this is just about this audit process. we only want to know about this audit process. i don't think of anyone really believed that and now they definitely won't believe that because in the last couple of weeks it is just like okay, the house is about to change hands, here it all is. and i do think that sort of undermines the original claims from the chair. >> look, it is happening in a few minutes according to lauren fox on capitol hill, we may not, we may know a lot more. soon -- audi cornish, thanks very, much michael, thanks to you, and of course the house ways and means committee expected as you said any minute, we will go straight back to capitol hill when that happens. just ahead, a cnn exclusive in an answer to an important allegation raise yesterday by the january 6th committee 14 to cassidy hutchinson and her testimony. the committee has said an attorney and an associate of former president trump had urged her to mislead the committee. we didn't know the name of that
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and attorney, associate of the former president, urged a key witness to mislead the committee. the committee said it involve the damning testimony in late tune by former white house aide cassidy hutchinson, and according to -- committee members now lofgren she was advised to say that she did not recall something when she did. tonight we, know the name of the former trump associate, someone who if the allegation is true, was once in a position to know better. caitlin polantz joins us. caitlin polantz, you helped break this report, john, this -- and this is about a lawyer named stefan passantino it, is -- jeremy herb. and this is about a lawyer named stephan past santino. it's about his work for cassity hutchinson, that former white house aide, star witness against donald trump. passantino was an ethics lawyer in trump's white house. then he started a political law firm. that firm has been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars at this year alone. by donald trump's political fundraising groups. and that included, we were able
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to confirm, payments for passantino to represent cassidy hutchinson in the house select committee probe. at least that was until she was preparing to testify publicly the summer, she got a new lawyer around that time. became the star witness, now the house is publicly raising concerns about that entire set up. they have other concerns to john, with this lawyer. it is a long list. this lawyer was telling her not to recall facts. she did recall them though. not to clarify testimony that she believed was inaccurate. and something that we cast a bad light on donald trump, he told her we don't want to go there, we don't want to talk about that. that is all according to the committee that spoke to cassidy hutchinson maybe times. they never reached out to passantino, he has not been charged with any crime, but he did provide us with a statement today pushing back on this. he was saying that he represented cassidy hutchinson ethically, that she was truthful with the committee whenever he was shepherding her through testimony. he has also said he is taking a leave of absence form corporate defense law firm where he is a partner but all of this matters
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now john, because the committee flagged this instance among other things for the justice department when they released that summary yesterday, and previously and we do know now, we can confirm that cassidy hutchinson spoke to criminal investigators about this episode and of course, maybe an important witness for federal investigators that continue to look into january 6th. >> this is just one of several instances in which the committee has accused members of the former presidents orbit of trying to obstruct the panels investigation. do we have anymore in formation about the other examples? >> john, not just in the orbit potentially donald trump himself. the house in their report or their summary yesterday, they said that they have received a range of evidence suggesting specific efforts to obstruct the committee's investigation. this cassidy hutchinson example, that is one of them. other examples they give is that they say that they believe donald. trump was trying to contact some witnesses in the investigation, that is something the dust is department knows about one witness at least already.
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they also mentioned that the secret service agents and other employees decided to hire private lawyers. they would presumably pay for themselves, or have another entity pay for them, when they had the ability to just use the agency's own lawyers for free. to represent them in the house investigation, so that is all in the summer yesterday. we are expecting a final report, a more fulsome report tomorrow, but this is something that is clearly of concern to the house. and may as well become something very much of concern to the justice department investigation. >> right. very soon. katelyn, thank you, fascinating reporting and perspective now from -- cnn legal analyst -- cordero for security, olivia troye, director of the republican accountability project and former homeland security adviser to vice president pence. all right carrie, just lay this out for people because i think part of this just has to do with simple lawyering. could a lawyer tell a client not to work, to say they --
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or do recall? >> right john, so i think it is important for us to distinguish people between the ethical obligations of the lawyer and then conduct that might potentially be considered criminal. so telling a client, if what the lawyer did is he told his client to lie, which is one way that i think could interpret this reporting, that is clearly enough fickle, unethical, as a lawyer representing someone before congress or before any government entity or any proceeding to direct a client to lie. if that is in fact what happened. and then there is the issue of, was this conduct potentially obstructing the professional inquiry? but this is where the way that it happened, what the words were that were used, whether or not what is being reported is actually what transpired. because it doesn't sound like we have the other side of the
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story yet. so there is a lot of -- between what could potentially be a disagreement among people about what happened versus unethical conduct versus criminal conduct. >> right. but basically, a lawyer can't tell a client to lie. and if a client does recall something and tells the lawyer that she recalls something, if the lawyer then says just say you don't recall it, that is where it tilts from maybe more than just ethical correct? >> yes that is a problem. in the law in terms of obstructing congress or obstructing any proceeding, if it performs in corruptly tries to impede the conduct of a congressional inquiry, that is obstruction and that is something that is potentially investigated and prosecuted for. we'll go through that lee was based on being reported and what the committee is apparently saying, there is potential that the committee -- i do think there is an issue
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here john, with respect to them weight committee is doing its work because the question that is raised for me, if the committee is going to make a criminal referral for this lawyer, having obstructed their inquiry? because if they are not going to do that, then we have this space where we have an individual who is being publicly maligned, and they are not making a criminal referral and so that leaves just sort of, this open area as to whether or not they really think his conduct, or they really have the evidence suggesting that he potentially committed a crime. >> they haven't made one as far as we know yet. but we do know the doj spoke to cassidy hutchinson we believe, about this. olivia, given your experience with the past administration, this guy was an ethics lawyer. inside the white house. does this comport with your experience of there are adhering to truth? >> yeah, look at certainly does. i have actually been concern
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for people like cassidy and others who want to do come forward and tell the truth, testify under oath and really comply with congress. along the way, because this is kind of the dynamic that people, individuals who want to tell the truth face. look, i lived the first impeachment in the white house internally. i saw firsthand what the witnesses that we're going to go before congress went through. i personally actually advised a colleague that they should retain a lawyer outside of the circle, because they were being advised that they would be fine and i said no you won't be fined because these people all work for the man in the oval office. it is like the mob boss. it is a mob boss mentality. at the end of the day they are going to do his bidding and that is exactly what this inner circle does. it doesn't surprise me that cassidy based this dynamic possibly and what i believe her because this isn't the warnock situation here it is something
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that i have seen happen personally and it turns out that in that situation i was 100% correct and right. that person did retain their own council. because they wanted to comply and they want to tell the truth about what they had witnessed and i think when i look at mar-a-lago to be honest, with complying in coming forward, i think about them to. not only do i worry about the intimidation tactics that trump uses at over the people around him but i worry about their safety as well. >> very quickly carry, olivia brings up a good point. the split loyalties that this lawyer might have. junior employees, it is nice to have a lawyer paid for, but if that lawyers looking out for somebody else instead of you, there is a potential conflict there. >> that is right. it speaks to cassidy hutchinson's winston that she decided to switch lawyers, whether she was in fact being pressured or whether she felt like she was being pressured and that her interests were being represented, clearly when there is payment going on and someone was being paid by someone other than what their client is you, worry about the
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influence that the person who is paying the bills is perhaps influencing the conduct of the lawyer. that is not the way it should work but as a practical matter i think we all know it can be like that. so it speaks to her strength in having the wisdom as it sounds like olivia also advised some other folks that if they want to really truly be independent and get legal advice that is specific to them and in their best interest and in the interests of the truth, then they needed to retain their own council. >> carrie cordero, olivia troye, thank you both so much for helping us understand this. just ahead, as we wait to hear from the house ways and means committee with its report on the former president's taxes, we will go live to el paso, texas and -- cnn's ed lavandera for the latest on the shortage of migrants at the border as the biden administration asked the supreme court to end enforcement of a covid era restriction on migrants. but with one caveat we. will, explore that next. metamucil's new fiber plus collagen can help.
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we have more breaking news, the biden initiation tonight has asked the supreme court to allow a covid era policy restricting migrants to end. but, it also asked coat to delay ending enforcement of the public health policy known as title 42. for at least a week. the request comes as border states are facing a huge influx of migrants in el paso texas,
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federal officials have moved more than 9000 migrants out of the city and just last week. they also report that the day the number of migrants there recently has been convened to decrease. cnn's, had lavandera joins us now from the border and el paso. as, give us a sense of what you're seeing there. >> hi john, here in el paso as officials light the fate of title 42. he remains in the go limbo. overseeing here in el paso's political gain tension. >> just hours before sunrise texas national guard soldiers and texas state troopers constructed a nearly mile long fence covered in razor wire along the rio grande. in the very spot where federal border patrol agents started processing thousands of migrants and the last week. the texas military department says the national guard did not alert the board patrol are officials that dispense would-be constructed. on monday, el paso officials
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said national guard soldiers would primarily focused on humanitarian efforts and with security of migrants, who are already in the city. not with the turned efforts. >> the status preparing resources and they're looking into apostle. they're not activated. so at this point it's really. what ifs >> apostle county judge, ricardo san diego says the newly installed defense and razor wire is a political stunt and a misuse of resources at a critical time. >> standing on the border, putting barbara fancies is not what we need. with the epicenter breaking of migration, and you've got the governor calling the mayor, and myself. >> this is the kind of optics and strategy that texas governor, greg abbott, has long supported. the republican governor has repeatedly criticize the biden administration for not doing enough to secure the border. >> but the newly installed defense isn't stopping migrants. cnn captured these images just
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a few hours after the fence went up of a group of four migrants crawling through the razor wire, despite warnings from border agents. they were taken into custody. >> who has got to use that? >> as we are certain table would happen title 42 looms over this border city. local officials, and migrant advocates say they will continue preparing as if the public health rule that was used during the pandemic, to block migrants from entering the u.s., some 2.5 million times will be lifted. but those leading do manager in efforts like reuben garcia are frustrated. garcia runs the migrant shelter and then station house and has served migrants for more than 30 years in el paso. >> the federal on the state government are fighting each other. so, they're not working together. one of the reasons that we face moments like this is because our political leadership does not sit downs work out the comprehensive reform that takes into account the phenomena of
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refugees. >> so, el paso's mayor said a few days ago that governor abbott won't do anything along the board without telling him first. what is the mayor think of these latest developments. >> well the mayor says the governor's office did tell him that this fence was going to go up, but the mayor says he was told that this was part of a three hour training mission for the texas national guard. that is now here in el paso. those three hours have long past. so now the mayor, we spoke to just a short while ago. says that he wants to speak with the governor's office. and the texas department public safety. to exactly understand why this offense is needed. because it is clearly not doing much editor migrants from crossing the river. and it is definitely not the way local officials here expected these resources to be used, john? >> as of, there are four port at the border. thank you very much. >> next, an astonishing look at what is now happening inside of china as that country continues its battle against covid.
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covid outbreak after the government east strict containment measures nearly two weeks ago. , what is surprising is the government isn't reporting many deaths at the same time, the death business seems to be surging. here's cnn's, selina wang, reporting from beijing. china has only reported a fee covid deaths since abandoning its zero covid policy. but what we see on the ground tells a different story. >> there is a long line of cars that snakes across this entire area of cars waiting to get into that cremation area. and the parking lot, right, now it is completely full of cars. speaking here because there are many many security guards patrolling this entire area. i've spoken to a man, who earlier, who said that his close friend passed away from a fever. so the hospital didn't say. why he said he's been waiting here for hours and he still has no idea if his friends body can even get cremated today. >> it is not just in beijing. social media shows -- and funeral homes around the
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country overwhelmed. and this funeral home in -- the man is saying it is going insane. here it is packed with cars. and vans carrying bodies stretch all the way into the distance in front of this crematorium in -- and families white, and stand in the morning close at this funeral home. with no idea how long they have to wait before their beloved ones can be cremated. a new study by hong kong researchers estimates nearly 1 million people in china could die from covid if the country doesn't take necessary public out measures. like increased axon a shunts. long lines like these are forming across the country, outside of hospitals, in hondo, people wait for hours outside in the cold light. crowds formed outside of hospitals and won. ground zero of the original outbreak. >> this is a covid designated hospital beijing. there's been a steady stream of
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elderly patients and wheelchairs. being led into this hospital. i spoke to a man who's been waiting outside for his elderly family members. he said it is very sick with a high fever from covid. but he said that this hospitals going out of space. >> are you busy? i asked the covid worker outside the saw spittle? but yes, extremely busy, he tells. me we've been working to the evenings. did a lot people die here i? ask yes, every day he says. is it all because of covid? yes, he says. people underlying conditions. the country's covid strategy has suddenly swung from one extreme, to another. this is what china's metropolis look like a month ago, during the mass covid lockdown. hago city. but now, not only has -- lifted its lockdown. the government announced on primetime television that people who have covid, as long as they're only mildly sick or asymptomatic, well they can return to work. people are still scared to go
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out. restaurants and shopping malls in the city barely have any customers. subways across major cities are eerily empty. but none of this is stopping chinese state media from hail in the country's covid shaggy as victory, after victory. as a chinese people feel they are suddenly left to fend for themselves. but and john, if we're already seeing this major strain of the hospital system in beijing. the capital china. that is well resourced. well, you can imagine the devastation we might see another parts of china. the country's chief epidemiologist said that the worst is still yet to come and that the country is going through the first of three expected waves. that second wave is expected to be triggered by the mass travel ahead new new year holiday. which could lead to covid sweeping through china's countryside. where vaccination rates are much lower and medical resources are far less, john. stunning picture, selina wang, thank you so much. we'll be right back. but did you know
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