>> tonight, history, a moment that will be the basis of comparisons for generations. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy addressing congress, the u.s. congress in person, and thanking the american people for standing with his

country against russia's brutal aggression. and, making the case for continued support. >> our two nations are -- in this battle. next year, will be a turning point and knowing the point when ukrainian courage and american resolve must guarantee the future of our common freedom, the freedom of people who stand for their values. your support is crucial, not just to stand in such fight, but to get to the turning point, to win on the battlefield. we have artillery, yes, thank you. we have it, is it enough? honestly not really. [laughter] >> so tonight, as we see on the right, zelenskyy surrounded by u.s. lawmakers, yesterday just yesterday on the left, he was

surrounded by ukrainian troops on the front lines where he talked about extensively tonight. he is now on his way back to ukraine. i want to bring in cnn military analyst -- and counterterrorism analyst phil much. it is interesting, phil, as a counter terrorism analyst, volodymyr zelenskyy called russia terrorists. basically, called putin a terrorist tonight. if you are vladimir putin, how do you see this moment? >> well there is a simple perspective which is that there is an alliance, it western alliance, the americans and europeans that are going up against a weekend of russia. i think there is a separate story there, here, that is one of the reasons i think zelenskyy came to washington. that is if you are putin, you are looking at going into 2023, is there any sign of witness from the west, why would zelenskyy show up in the united

states. the republican leader of the congress talks about, there is no blank check for ukraine. there is reports out of journalistic reports out of the uk saying the uk has to tell biden you have to buck up here. there are reports out of the white house and questions about how committed biden is to this campaign. i think at one level putin has to look at this and think about the unity among the west, and another level he might say the reason zelenskyy had to go is that there is weakness in the west, and uncertainty about whether the americans are committed to this, john. >> interesting perspective. so of a glass awful, last half empty depending how you look at it. colonel, your staring at the map, the amount of ukraine which where the troops have been, where the fighting has been has changed some over the last ten months. give us a perspective on the battlefield as it stands now. >> sure, john, good evening, this is one of the key elements here that really makes a difference. because of all these areas

right here, at one point in time or actually occupied by russian troops. now what we are seeing as the russian troops are only active in these areas right here that i have circled on the big map of ukraine. let's go into some detail, you will take a look at what is going on in the eastern part first of all. the town of -- this town right here, is the one where there is a big battle that is going on right now. it has been waging for several months now. this is kind of where the russians are putting a lot of their military might into this area. it is not as strategically important as -- and -- the ukrainians have retaken this area right here, but, the russians are putting up a big fight here, but the ukrainians are holding their own in this particular area. now let's move to the kharkiv region, the northeast part of the area of the country. kharkiv is the second largest city in ukraine, all of this area used to be controlled by the russians, the ukrainians have taken this over. now they are kind of stopped at

this line right here, but, they still have the momentum to move a bit forward if they choose to do so, and if they have the white kind of weaponry to do that. finally down in the -- distance in the southern part of the country, it was the city which was just liberated by the ukrainians. the russians are on the other side of the dnipro river, on the east bank of this river, they still control all of this area, they still have all this land bridge that connects russia with crimea, and the russians want to keep this. but, what the ukrainians are going to do, is they are going to try to potentially come down through here, and go to areas like -- which is one of the areas that couldn't be actually one of the big areas that they could potentially take over down here. the one key thing to watch out for, as what is happening here in belarus. putin has been to belarus, and visited with president lukashenko of belarus. there may be something brewing here with an alliance, or something more going on that is even further baked in to the

russian war strategy, but that is exactly how this particular areas playing out. this static line right here, may very well change one thinks frees up. >> phil, you talk some about the international will to support ukraine, and whether or not that may be wavering or strengthening with zelenskyy here in the united states tonight. what about the will to fight inside russia? how much does a lot of near putin and have to worry about his own people, and from an intelligence perspective, how can the u.s. assess how much backing putin still has? >> well if you wanted to ask the toughest question, that is the question. when we went into this war, john, you would have assess this capabilities question. when you think about intelligence, there is two pieces, typically capabilities and intent. capabilities meaning how many deficiency russians have, how many airplanes, how many infantry, you would have said as i said back then, the russians will control the

ukrainians after a while. but we learned over the past half a year, this is not a capability question, this is a will question. the question of will the ukrainians have beaten the russians time and time again, i think going into 2020, three going into the spring of this year, if the russians don't make major or significant gains, or at least hold their games going into 2023, the spring of 2023. if ukrainians keep making gains, i have to really look at a -- what we are seeing a your, go and asking whether the ukrainians might win this one. i cannot believe that, but it is a game of will, not just capability, john. >> and, do you, one of the major discussion points of this entire trip, the patriot missile. the patriot missile batteries the u.s. has promised to provide aid to ukraine. talk to us about what that can do, how that can, if it, can change things. and, how easy or hard it will be for the ukrainians to

operate this? >> so the ukrainians, john, are going to need a bit of training to operate the system. it is a fairly complex system, and what it basically does is it takes the upper part of the air defense structure, in other words the higher altitude targets and it can go from medium to high altitude very well. its main target, ballistic missiles. this is what the system is designed to go against. it takes about six months to change the average operator on this where the u.s. army, ukrainians might be able to do it a bit quicker if they have the right skill set, and if they have people with a bit of experience in here. but it is a complementary system, it is not a -- >> thanks to both of, you suggested both, if you have a wonderful holiday. i will see you again. >> you too, john. >> all right, i want to bring in the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine stephen piper. ambassador, thank you so much for being with us. volodymyr zelenskyy, the president of ukraine, what do you think he wanted to get tonight, and did he get it? >> yes, i believe that

presidential lynskey wanted to do three things. one, to express gratitude, not just to president biden, but also the american congress and more broadly that speech we saw the american people, second he wanted to make clear that this fight is not just about ukraine, it is about bigger things, it is about a rule based international order. the west has a lot of at stake in this fight, and how it turns out. and, i think the first message, should not be a surprise, but ukraine has survived on in the last months is the tenacity, skill, and courage of the ukrainian military personnel. they have been helped by a lot of tools provided by the west. so his message posed to congress, but i'm sure also president biden in their private discussion was, they need more weapons so they can continue the games they have over the last few months, and continue to push the russian military back. >> it is interesting he made the case, this is not just a

ukrainian issue, it is a global issue. this is not just a momentary problem, it is a generational problem. let's listen to a bit of what he said on that point. >> this guy has in his very, soul is who he says he is. it is clear who he is. he is willing to give his life for his country. all of the folks are with him today. and so, i think -- >> [speaking non-english] >> translator: the longer this war last, the longer this aggression last. there will be more -- that live for revenge. >> some more parents who live for the sake of enchants, or revenge, this could last he is saying. why is that important? >> well i think the message he is trying to say is, the longer this goes on, the harder it could be. what he would like would be american support, and support from other western countries,

so that ukraine can build on the successes they have had in september and taking back all of kharkiv region, and in november taking back the western part of kherson region. continuing that military success, because that is the kind of thing that will force the kremlin to reconsider its course, and perhaps get serious about negotiations. >> let's talk about negotiation, because zelenskyy in his speech, he did have words about a possible peace conference that he's willing to talk about this. but, it felt like it came with a big qualifier. it would have to be under certain terms. what would be the terms, do you think, that's walensky would be willing to discuss or negotiate? >> yeah, well, he has, been very clear, he wants all of ukraine's territory back including the peninsula of crimea. he wants reparations to repair the hundreds of billions of dollars of damage that this russian military operation was done to ukraine, and he wants russians held accountable for the war crimes and atrocities

that have been committed. i'm not sure at the end of the day he can get all of that, which is why i don't believe the west, and i don't think the biden administration is pushing him towards negotiation. that is going to be a decision he has to make, because if there is a serious negotiation, they're asked to resign from moscow, which you haven't seen in ten months, that they are prepared to negotiate in a serious way. but then for zelenskyy, he has to be prepared to make delicatessens if there are areas he needs to compromise on. -- >> it is so hard to imagine in some ways, because of how -- how much they have been through, he's got an internal domestic issue here which is there aren't any ukrainians to want him to give anything up right now. >> -- if you go back to early march, the ukrainians were making offers to accept neutrality, and accept some of the things

that really went ways towards the russian position. the russians ignored it. what has happened since march, is the ukrainians have seen what has happened in towns like bucha, irpin, and where they saw the torture chambers, the mass, graves executions, really grotesque things like ukrainian children being taken back to russia for adoption by russian parents. they saw the three month assault by the russian military on mariupol, and so, the attitude of the ukrainians, and attitudes of president zelenskyy himself, i believe, hardened. there was a poll in october, and it said 80% of ukrainians want to keep fighting, and they have negotiations. so those limits, even if president zelenskyy wanted to get in a negotiation, there is real question of how far he could go. >> so what changes things? >> what changes things, well, again, i would hope the ukrainian military could continue the military success, ideally they could drive the

russians out or back to the line on february 23. but, if they can do, that at least begin to -- take the kremlin to a point where it begins to search for a way out of this. it really is a blunder. russia will -- diminish politically, economically, militarily. but, when did we reach that point, it could take months, it could be a long fight. -- >> i have to let you go here. i have to let you go, ambassador. but quickly, those vladimir putin, does it cost him fear, does he worry when he sees zelenskyy -- >> i think vladimir putin when he looked at, this he will see president biden -- and a lot of american congressional support, and again, what putin has been hoping to do is undermine western support for ukraine. what this did was solidify that support to the united states.

>> ambassador, great to have you on tonight, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> president zelenskyy did receive a warm rousing bipartisan reception in congress tonight, telling lawmakers that u.s. aid to ukraine is an investment in global security and democracy. but, will republicans pull back on that when they take control of the house in a few weeks, we will talk about that next. try new z pure zzzs sleep plus next day energy with melatonin to help you fall asleep nanaturally... plus extended-relelease b-vitamins. wake up fefeeling refreshed. pure zzzs. sleep bebetter. wake up your best. if you still have symptoms of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or active psoriatic arthritis after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help.

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of unity on capitol hill, standing ovations for the leader of ukraine as he told congress that his country has beaten the odds against russia, and appealed for continued help to win the war. >> your money is not charity, it is an investment in the global security and democracy that we handle in the most responsible way. you can speed up our victory. >> congress is expected to vote this week on a spending package that includes an additional 45 billion dollars in emergency aid to ukraine, but what is most uncertain is the future assistance with republicans about the take control of the house. kevin mccarthy was lying to be speaker said again tonight he will never support a blank check for ukraine, however, no one is actually asked for a blank check for ukraine. here now, cnn political commentator scott jennings, former special assistant to

george w. bush, a former white house senior director of cabinet affairs and bob cusack editor and chief of -- let me start with you quickly, the washington that's a lewinsky arrived in today, in terms of support for ukraine, what was that in the washington he left tonight in terms of support for ukraine? did it change? >> john, i think it did. i think it was a very impressive speech, i think house republicans in particular have to be concerned because -- to support ukraine, but there is a big difference between what mitch mcconnell is saying, and they've done on ukraine, he is a big backer of ukraine aid, and what you said kevin mccarthy. of course kevin mccarthy as i focus on being speaker, but at the same time their message is very different than democrats. their message is, no blank check. the message from the president as well as the treasury secretary is, we are going to do this as long as it takes, because the stakes are so high.

so i think ukraine aid in the new year, their stock is up, scott jennings, but which is talking about some in the house who are not as supportive of aid to ukraine as any republicans in the senate, matt gates who did go to his credit, did go to the speech tonight. he wrote this, he wrote, he went to the speech out of respect, not agreement in what found compelling, or agreed with, he said, i love the fashion choices. >> what do you make of where certain house members are on the sky? >> well, certain house members are brought at least serious people you could possibly consult on topics. that is one of, them and so that is what i think about it now. i think the distinct minority of republicans of decided to support vladimir putin that is a minute part of the party, the majority part of the party understands it is not a great

idea to let a murderous dictator run wild -- -- we are fighting the russians, man helping people who want to fight the russians, this is a good deal for the american people, i think a majority position, -- that is why mccarthy says he doesn't want a blank check and they will have to be some under the hood here where is this money gone and that is perfectly fine but the issue here is not letting putin get away with this, ukrainians are on the verge of winning, and it is largely because of us not anybody else. because of us. we have to keep it that way. >> how central do you feel that this white house wants to put ukraine in terms of having it be the political agenda starting in january.

>> well biden addressed the issue of democracy in his closing remarks to the midterm election, he made america's democracy, on the world, stage a political issue, and effectively democracy overseas this is what it looks like without putting any u.s. troops in harm's way. the challenge we are seeing, is that the same people in congress who did not want to investigate the attack on the capitol also suddenly want to investigate spending money for ukraine. to be clear john, the congress before any money gets sent out, congress gets 15 days notice from the pentagon on exactly where that money is going, and what it is going for. -- you just have to be willing to read and be transparent about what your understanding about this for. it is ultimately the existential crisis of the moment. what does it look like for the united states to stand up for democracy on the world stage. >> you know, bob, senator from

wyoming, republican senator from wyoming said something interesting after the speech. she said it was wise for zelenskyy to think american families. what do you think of that message? >> oh, i think he knows politics very well. i think zelenskyy is going to be smart, he knows the house republicans are going to be controlling that chamber next year, and i imagine he and his people are going to be in contact with them in 2023, and i do think it was very smart. is a speech, just saying this is not charity, this is an investment, thanking american families, it is not like we are spending trillions of dollars. yes we do have a spending problem, medicare, social security needs short of financially. but at the same time you have to think of history, in ten years from now, i think this investment is going to be a good one, most members of congress do think that. >> scott, what do you make of the leader of tonight? i'm not using that term at all majority flee, because it can

be very effective, and i think zelenskyy made it very effective walking into the chamber in his fatigues. speaking in english to the congress, talking about christmas, how ukrainians will spend christmas in a way that had to make those members of congress think about how they will be spending christmas in just a few moments. i think the fear was important tonight, because it was a reminder that this is not some faraway problem that if we just ignored it would just, you, know do whatever happens and there's no impact on the united states. coming to the congress, coming from the battlefield, essentially, to the congress to say thank you for this aid and for all of your support. it was a reminder that what happens there, absolutely affects what happens here and what happens to western civilization, what happens to democracy all over the world. so, i think the theater of that was really, really important and again, thinking the american people for their generosity and it was great.

but also reminding the congress that this war is there to be, one but it's not one yet, it's not gonna be one in the next couple of weeks but it is there to be one if you stick with this. to me, the theater of tonight drove home all those messages and i thought that it was for the point. so i think it's extraordinary. but yesterday. -- with the troops on the frontline, the heroes as he called them, that was yesterday. and we could see the picture on the left of the screen, and, tonight he was surrounded by the u.s. congress. i run it at a holiday event, last, night and i was rather shocked. -- and there's more that you can, do this is a consistent message, the ukrainians deeply understand what it means to be connected, not only to the u.s. government, but to the american

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trump's financial dealings and while it's going to take time for lawmakers to digest the flood of information about trump's taxes, one of my next guest says that she got two big questions about. it i'm talking about cnn economics political commentator, who joins me along with legal analysts, catherine, you see that the big question is our number, one how much did trump cheat uncle sam, if you cheated. and why exactly did the internal revenue drop the ball on moderate or detecting number one. and just to remind people one of the things that's been revealed in this congressional report is that the irs did not do the mandatory audit that they were supposed to do. so the answer to question number one is that there were a lot of red flags about shenanigans, but the president, the former president was involved in including dodgy charitable deductions, was he giving gifts to his children that were disguised as a loans? what's their personal expenses that he was protecting, all sorts of stuff like that. there were tons of red, flags

even before he took office. the irs also has a policy in its manual and the policy has been its manual for decades. that every year the president get audited so the question is whether or not they have, reflects by the way so the question is why didn't they audit him for the first two years that he was in office? and in fact it looks like according to the means, report they didn't even begin an audit until house democrats asked them about the audits that they presumed were already going on. they were, like what, maybe we should notify the trumps that we're not at right. now, so it's just very bizarre and it's hard to know what is going on here i mean obviously the irs is under, resource i've written about that, that's an excuse for not doing their due diligence here. but where they intimidated, where they believe, where they disorganized where they scared of their, shadow they don't know yet. >> norm, they didn't do something that the losses they have to do.

what questions do you have about it? >> well, to the questions about whether his income was accurate, whether his deductions are accurate, and why the irs didn't do what they were required to do the third question that i have is what do these returns tell us about the larger pattern of alleged fraud that we know has been under investigation. including by new york authorities for years and i've written about them at the working institutions questions like the deductions that donald trump and his properties claiming conservation -- were those merited? there's a lingering question about his large business losses whether those were actually for

real -- so i think once we get the actual returns particularly in the new york state they're going to get to trial with the manhattan dea has secured conviction on 17 counts of the trump organization vertex rug and where he is said to be re-opening his investigation. we are really at the beginning of understanding the meeting of these financial figures. >> you know, catherine, it's interesting they say that it's been led by democrats and it's always said to have a legislative purchase. we have to say that in order to get the tax returns. well, it turns out now that we learned that the mandatory audit did take place, that actually really does indicate real legislative purchase. well, to be fair, i thought that the legal justification that they were using to get trump tax returns was not the most compelling one. i thought that there were a lot of reasons that we cared about

getting those documents because again historically presidents is a major party president voluntarily released. >> that's a political argument, but not a legislative early going. yes and i think it's important to know where it's he getting his money from, who does he owe money to. what kind of financial entanglement does he have that might influence how he sets policy. all of that stuff is important and in addition to the elected possible fraud that norm just talked about. how see wielding has power. and how might he be influenced by the business empire. all of that stuff is very compelling to me and this question about the presidential audit system was like, whatever but then it turns out that actually it doesn't seem to be functioning like it supposed to be functioning. and again we don't know if there was some sort of intervention from high. or if this was just incompetence. or if people were just very nervous about crossing trump. i don't know. if you look at the report itself there was multiple reports that were released.

but if you look at some of the documentation that was released this week it does suggest that irs are usually deep foreign chilled to trump's counsel on another of issues and trump's counsel was very uncooperative in providing information on a number of issues. so, we don't know what went on here, but something didn't function right. >> so, what happens now with democrats losing control in the house with comedian weeks? >> well john that is part of the legitimate legislative purpose here. you know, when you issue a report like the one kathryn just referenced, it is customary to back that up with the data. the tax returns are the data that the american people need to see to understand these failures but they are also available to the united states senate now. so we already heard from senator blumenthal and others that something doesn't quite small right over at the irs

presidential audit system. so i think the senate will take it. up and of course, state investigators. and we're counting on the press and the american people to scrutinize these materials very closely. >> it's complicated stuff, which also, might be part of the reason why the irs, i know it sounds -- but i know the irs didn't have the time to go through cat -- taxes, but it's pretty complicated. >> it is extremely complicated, and look, you will not find another journalist who's been on the record more frequently than i have i think. advocating for giving more reason to the irs. precisely so that they can engage these enforcement activities wonder so outgunned by wealthy individuals or complicated corporate tax audit that they would like to take on that they can't. so i do think they need more resources, i know it's a difficult, task so that said i do think that they dropped the ball, here they should have been a priority for a whole bunch of policy-related really -- need to know that the president of the united states is not

above the law. >> and we need to know why didn't the, ball that's going to be something big going forward. catherine, i felt great to see. thank you very much, i think steve as well. >> so, it is called a bomb cyclone and it threatened to bring frigid temperatures up and holiday travel for millions of americans, who will see the brunt of, it that's next.

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an intensifying storm to impact the, states as we enter the busiest travel days of the. year more than 100 million people, now, under winter weather and windchill alerts, the national weather service is calling it a bomb cyclone and a once in a generation storm. several states, including kentucky, oklahoma, maryland, and georgia have preemptively declared a state of emergency. cnn meteorologist, britney brit as the latest from the cnn weather center. walk us through what we're seeing now and how things could get. >> i want to show you. this pay close attention to the blues and the purples. that is where the front already moved through. and, minute, this is a 24 hour temperature change. so, yesterday at this time, we were significantly warmer.

51 degrees cooler, now that we were yesterday. watch this. a record temperature drop in cheyenne from 43 degrees to ten degrees with in just ten minutes as that front move. do so, that's a 43 degrees temperature drop within just ten minutes time. denver did the same thing. 42 degrees to 18 degrees within seven minutes. that's a 24 degrees temperature drop within, just ten minutes time. 70 below, that is what it feels. like, so the temperature is okay. but, here's the deal. when you factor in the wind, this is what matters. this is what it feels. like denver, temperatures are going to be 11 below in the morning. and then, finally, slowly trying to make our way back up into next week. jackson, mississippi, 84 hours below freezing. you can expect this in birmingham alabama as well as houston texas, 80 hours in birmingham below freezing in houston, 45 if not. more i want you to pay

attention. i mentioned the wind chill. 35 below to 45 below are talking about exposure time and getting frostbite. it only takes 5 to 10 minutes at that point. so, gloves, hats, scarves if you have to go out. i would suggesting indoors. as for your windshield forecast, minneapolis dropping down to 42 below on friday, 33 below in chicago, but it's not getting any better over the next few days. it's just beginning. so, if you can't, stay. indoors wind speeds when you factor that in with the actual temperature you get what's called the windshield. 74 miles per hour wind speeds in wyoming. that is a category one storm forced when when it comes to hurricanes. just a comparison. there many under some sort of wind chill alert, wind chilled warnings from montana to omaha. all the way down into the tennessee river valley. also, dealing with blizzard warnings, across the country from the plains all across the great lakes, the snowfall

affected here with a last 24 hours. >> that's all i can say to. this that is some bleak forecasts there. thank you very much. i want to turn out to one of the coldest places in the country, billings montana is set to head an overnight low of minus 29 degrees. minus 50 with the windshield. joining me now is billings, mayor bill. cole did i read that right? minus 29? ! that's pretty cold. how do you prepare for something like that? >> well, you gotta write, john it's about 20 below down, they're 29 below tomorrow. plus we've had some snow so that roads are slippery and dangerous out there. so how do we prepare well. the winter is nothing new to montana. i really feel bad for alabama, mississippi, and our problems are being and seeing all over

the country. we have the advantage -- and so as you heard it were going 5 to 10 minutes where it's those kind of temperatures before you're looking at frostbite. tonight, it is the winter sole system. it is the longest night of the year, 14 hours of darkness. fortunately we have day centers for the homeless. we also have to overnight shelters, one of which we just opened tonight. we've got a great team of churches, a nonprofit organizations, a volunteer, a rescue mission, a continue of care and they're working hard on this to take care of our homeless. but, that is the homeless side of it. we also have a lot of problems when it comes to equipment and our personal. >> yes, i was going to ask about. that terms of infrastructure, what tends to go when temperatures get, you, know 50

below in windshield? >> well, pretty much everything. but a lot of equipment, of course, is one by diesel. it clogs and low temperatures. so, equipment doesn't start. equipment that does start, breaks. parts break. hydraulic hoses break. everything has to be hauled back and worked, on pipes break. we are not seeing frost levels at about the feet where our water mains are not that much below that so we're starting to see broken pipes. and, of course, what happens when pipes break? they need to be fixed. and so a lot of people don't appreciate having a christmas dinner or christmas eve with their family and the water works because that's because utility workers and employees were in a deep dark trench in 25 degrees below fixing those

broken pipes. and that's the story all around the united states, and we owe them a great debt of gratitude. one way we -- and most importantly, just a very experienced crew and staff who have seen this before and know what to expect. >> you, know you know it's cold when a hearty montana base -- >> yes, this is really bad. i was just beginning, winters just beginning, can you stand three more months of this? >> yes, you know, of course it has an economic impact, we're seeing some travel impacts or some local ski areas in the red lodge mountain which was closed today because of the frigid temperatures. i assume that it will be close tomorrow. this is a bit unusual, usually winter is about 74 degrees all year long and sunny. but this is a bit of an exception. you know we've had a lot of great publicity, the 0.9 people moved into 2021. so one thing i'm curious about is whether this is going to

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