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deadly winter weather still wreaking havoc across the country. travel is still a nightmare. unless one of those passengers get a wild hair and decides with a group of other passengers to rent a car and drive 20 hours to their destination together. that's exactly what some of our guests tonight did. in a little while i'll introduce you to this group of intrep travellers, total strangers, who had quite the adventure. they recorded their trip, and it went viral. meanwhile, 10 million people across the south are under freeze alerts. and the death toll from this storm is rising. at least 49 people have died across the country. 27 of those are in the buffalo area. and authorities fear that they'll find more bodies in cars, as they begin to dig out from what's being called the worst storm in the region's history. you can see some of it there. and while police have their hands full with rescues, stores are being looted.

so, i'll talk to a supermarket manager who spent christmas eve watching his store get broken into. i want to bring in miguel marquez, live in rochester, new york. you were supposed to be in buffalo, miguel, we understand, but what happened? >> reporter: buffalo is sopped in. there is no way in or out. they have a travel ban in the city itself right now, and the snow is just so intense that it is almost impossible to get in. officials there are trying to plow those streets right now, trying to get to those cars and to those homes, from people they haven't heard from. 27 people already dead in erie county, new york. and they fear there will be more. an unprecedented storm, devastating and deadly, hitting western new york. >> we now have what will be talked about for generations the blizzard of '22. >> reporter: parts of buffalo pummelled with up to 43 inches of snow and hurricane force

winds, and the death toll of at least two dozen people in the area. >> a lot of welfare checks. and unfortunately, i have a bad feeling about that. i feel that toll is going to go up. it's gut wrenching. >> reporter: erie county, new york, brought to a standstill with people trapped in their homes and cars. >> this was the first time in buffalo fire history they could not respond to emergency calls because of how severe the conditions were. >> reporter: county officials sending in specialized trucks to rescue the rescuers. >> i couldn't see two feet in front of my vehicle. and we had rescue deputies. we brought in snow mobiles, utvs, atvs. when fire riggs are getting stuck, that heavy equipment, you can imagine what happened to the public. >> reporter: while most major highways had one lane clear for emergency traffic, many residential roads are impassable, with vehicles abandoned in the middle of the street.

>> we have had major snowplows and rescue vehicles -- i saw them myselves -- in ditches, buried in snow. >> reporter: officials urging residents, stay home. >> stay off the roads so we can continue to rescue people, get them safe, and make sure the roads are clear so we can reopen our community as soon as humanly possible. >> reporter: buffalo under a driving ban. but that hasn't stopped some from taking advantage of the situation. police have made arrests for looting. videos on social media shows looters at work, merchandise being carried out on foot. >> people who are out looting when people are losing their lives in this harsh winter storm is just absolutely reprehensible. >> reporter: all while thousands of homes and businesses are still without power. one family, who lost their heat, tried to make it to a hotel on christmas. >> you couldn't see anything. you couldn't see a stoplight. it was like you kind of just had to drive through the

intersection praying. >> reporter: their prayers answered by airport firefighters, who were able to rescue them along with dozens of other trapped drivers. >> they welcomed us with open arms. >> reporter: we should point out it just wasn't those individuals rescued. rescuers pulled about 550 people out of severe conditions. so, rescuing over 500 people in the area. they are hoping to do that more. and if there's any good news on the horizon, on thursday, it's meant to go up into the 40s. and on friday, it's in the 50s. the big melt will be on by week's end. alisyn. >> that's great, but there's many days to go before thursday. it's still frigid there. i don't have to tell you. do you know how much of the power is still out in that region? >> reporter: several thousand people are still without power. everywhere you drive in this region -- we try to get into

buffalo today. and everywhere we went, you saw power crews out there fixing lines, downed trees, all sorts of issues bringing out power. they've gotten tens of thousands, their power back. several thousands without. but it is very, very cold here tonight. again, many people have been without power for several days now. >> miguel, go get warm. we really appreciate you doing the report for us. now i want to bring in dan eiffel burger, the manager for the save a lot in buffalo that got looted. i know you had an upsetting christmas eve because you were watching your store get looted. how were you able to watch that happen? >> it was tough, alisyn. you know, christmas eve, you want to be doing other things with your family. our phones went off with the alarm that people were in our store. we have camera systems. so, of course we checked them to see what was going on.

and it was just ridiculous to watch. >> what did you see, dan? >> well, we were able to look in. we were able to watch. i think we have some video, so you guys can share it, of people coming into our stores and looting and destroying everything in our stores. so, it was just really heart wrenching to watch. it went on all day and it went on through the night. so, it was difficult to watch on christmas eve and on christmas day. >> yeah. that's no way to celebrate christmas, dan. we feel for you. and as soon as we are able to process and turn around that video, we will share it with people. did you call the police while this was happening? >> we did. our alarm company called the police, and i tried myself in order to call. as they said, you know, the news briefing there, they were unable to answer any of the calls in the buffalo area. the 911 system was basically down in buffalo. that was very hard. you know, you own a business and you're seeing your business

being looted. you want the police there. you know, we did. we wanted them to stop doing what they were doing. it's very tough in this area of buffalo. it is a food desert in this area. as a lot of people know, after the topps shooting, there are very few grocery stores in this area. so, our goal is to try and maintain this business and keep it afloat in order to help out the buffalo community. >> dan, we now have that video that you shared with us. so, this is closed circuit tv that you were able to watch on christmas eve. and you're watching the looters just go through your store, you know, obviously uninhibited because there's -- police are busy that night and not able to do anything. do you know what they stole? was there a -- what kinds of things were they looking for? >> it really was everything. it really wasn't the normal things that you would think that people would take, the turkeys, the hams, the things like that.

it was candy bars, batteries, individual bottles of soda, just a lot of stuff. as the night went on, it became less in the looting and just in the destruction. all of our registers were destroyed. our computers were knocked out, which is probably one of the biggest problems we have because in order to get up and running we have to make sure we have the sales system working. luckily today we did an awful lot of work with corporate save-a-lot. and they're overnighting us some equipment. they're going to overnight a person here as soon as the airport opens up in the morning. which is outstanding for them as a company. these stores are all independently owned. we're all small business owners, which a lot of people don't understand. >> yeah, and dan, i mean, that's part of what makes this so sad, is that, you know, obviously the community is struggling enough because of this once in a generation storm, and it's christmas. and as you say, you know, people often wonder, are these desperate people who are

breaking in for formula and diapers and hams, or are they kids or whatever -- characterize it however you like -- who are just, as you say, bent on destruction and stealing candy bars? >> what's really sad is look at the time stamp on this. this is 30 minutes after midnight on christmas eve. like i said, they really didn't take food. it wasn't people coming in looking for food because they were hungry or because the stores were closed or anything. it was just looting and destruction. >> dan, when are you going to be able to -- are you open again? is the store open again? >> we are not open. we got in there today. we got in around 11:00 today. we had to wait for things to calm down in that area. there were a lot of carjackings and things like that. it is hard to get around now because of the snow. my management team got in there. one of my liaisons with corporate save-a-lot went in there with me. we spent the day getting it cleaned up.

i've got some great kids who work for me. as soon as they heard we were opening the store, they were down there to greet us and worked all day to help us get cleaned up. >> that's great. that's good to hear. >> that's the only positive thing i can say. >> do you know how much this is going to cost you? >> right now we're guesstimating around a quarter million dollars in loss. >> well, dan, that's really -- as i said, that's really adding insult to injury there in your area, obviously, i don't have to tell you. >> we're trying to reach out. we're reaching out to the councilman in buffalo, trying to get with him, work with him to see if there's anything the city can do or the state. we know the federal disaster aid was signed today. so, we're hoping that maybe, you know, we can get in on some of that. that would help us speed along this process, get the store opened. >> okay. we're going to talk to the president of the city council momentarily. we'll see if he can help also. dan, take care. i hope you're able to put

together something positive for the holidays. we really appreciate you sharing your story with us. >> this is buffalo. this is just -- it's in our blood. all i can say is, you know, go bills. >> on that note, thanks so much. and we'll check back in with you. >> thank you, alisyn. >> thank you so much. let's go to christopher scantling, president pro tem of the city council. you heard what dan was talking about, a quarter million dollars of damage to his store. that's just one local store obviously that is suffering here. so, can you give him any comfort tonight? >> alisyn, thank you for having me. it's heartbreaking to hear what you and dan were talking about. unfortunately, dan's isn't the only instance of this behavior taking place. and those individuals who are out there, those opportunists, who are creating damage and looting these stores, they need to be held accountable. part of your conversation with

dan, you referenced people who may have been desperate and looking for formula or food or something like that. that's not what all of these people were doing. a lot of them were just out there. they're opportunists and looking to get their hands on anything they could. >> dan, let's talk about what the condition -- sorry. i should say, let's talk about the condition that erie county and buffalo are in tonight. so, the last we knew, there were 27 deaths in erie county. and we have a graphic that we can put up of what caused those deaths during this storm. so, there were ems delays. there were 14 people found outside. and i assume that those were people who were looking for help, who were trying to get to safety. do you know -- is that still what the death toll is? and can you share anything about why so many people have died? >> yeah. i think when you're talking about the storm that hit here this week, the only word that

adequately describes it is catastrophic. if we were only to receive the four or five feet of snow, only received blizzard-like conditions or hurricane force winds, we might have been able to handle it. when we receive the freezing temperatures, we can handle it. you mix it all together, we have a deadly storm. and that's what we're dealing with. we have more than two dozen confirmed deaths at this point in the storm. and unfortunately, you mentioned, i would imagine that number is going to increase, as rescue and snow removal operations continue in the coming days. i think a lot of situations of people who may have been caught in their cars during the storm and seeking shelter, and other situations like that. as you mentioned at the top of the broadcast, you talked about how much power outage there was. you had a lot of people without power for a couple of days. despite best efforts to get the power back on as quickly as possible, you had people experiencing horrendous

situations. >> so, chris, are there still people trapped at this hour? what are the rescue and recovery operations that are happening right now? >> there's been an ongoing effort, municipal county, state, resources have been pooling together. they're working to to find people who may still be without power. i believe as of 7:00 tonight, there were still around 7,000 people in the city of buffalo without power. i want to give credit to national grid and the work they've been doing, the members of the buffalo department of public works and -- that have been clearing roads to let gem get where they need to go to turn power on. it's been a herculean effort and they should be applauded for it. in addition to that, i have to mention obviously this is a situation where there's tremendous heartache. but there's also been incredible acts of bravery, heroism, and things of that nature. men and women of the buffalo

fire department, buffalo police department, have been working days on end to rescue people, putting themselves in harm's way. and i just want to recognize the incredible work they've been doing. in true buffalo spirit, despite everything that's been coming the last couple of days, you have people in the community reaching out to make sure that our first responders are taken care of, restaurateurs making sure they can go out and rescue and take care of people. >> that is really heartwarming. i'm glad you're taking a moment to applaud all those folks. obviously they're angels and we need them. chris, thank you very much for taking the time. we know that it's a dire situation there tonight. and we're thinking of all of you and we really appreciate talking to you. >> thank you, alisyn. i appreciate it. meanwhile, there's also new revelations from the january 6th committee, and they keep coming. so, we're going to bring those to you. and what should lawmakers do now to make sure that our democratic

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the january 6th committee preparing to release more transcripts of witness interviews. already their massive report laid out what they say was former president trump's multipart plan to overturn the 2020 election. here's their conclusion. quote, the central cause of january 6 was one man, who many others followed. none of the events of january 6th would have happened without him, end quote. let's bring in cnn political correspondent sara murray, democratic congressman from -- and south carolina governor mark sanford and former u.s. attorney harry lipman. thanks for joining me tonight. sara, i know you've been sifting through their evidence and conclusions. a lot of people tuned out for christmas and their holiday week, so just give us some of the headlines. >> there's a lot to sift through

between the report and the transcripts. even nestled in these transcripts, we're learning new pieces of information. there was one transcript that referenced this draft press release the white house was drafting in december 2020 we never heard about before. it was right after bill barr had publicly done an interview saying there was no widespread fraud. he was then the attorney general. the white house was crafting a press release saying anybody that thinks there wasn't massive fraud in 2020 election should be fired. they never issued this press release. eventually bill barr resigned from the administration anyway. but we didn't know about that until we saw this pop up in one of the questions investigators asked. one of the other big findings from their report was just how extensive the pressure campaign that trump put on state officials. at one point they say trump or his inner circle engaged in at least 200 apparent acts of public or private outreach to overturn state election results. we know the former president was

calling election officials. we know he was trying to get states to overturn their election results. but they really sort of try to bring to you the scope of the effort by trump and his allies to overturn the election. and lastly, we're just learning more in some of the transcripts from the white house aides. kayleigh mcenany noted she learned about the capitol riots, started piecing it together sitting at her desk eating a turkey sandwich. soon after she was subpoenaed to do her interview with the january 6th committee, she got a call from the former president. she told investigators, i believe shortly after i was subpoenaed, i received a call from former president trump, but i did not answer the call. i have not spoken to him since being subpoenaed. the former president called a couple of witnesses or tried to reach out to a couple of witnesses, but they didn't name all the names. kayleigh mcenany was at least one of the people the former president tried to reach out to before her interview. >> thanks for laying all that

out. harry, that leads us to you. what do you think will get the department of justice's attention most? some of these things, we had heard bits and pieces of. for instance, as sara just said, the 200 acts of personal outreach i should say, trying to get people to somehow tamper with the election results. and then knowing that kayleigh mcenany, that's -- in your speak -- witness tampering, perhaps, the fact that president trump was trying to call her. so, what do you think will the doj be most interested in? >> look, it's a huge, huge data dump, and there will be dozens and dozens of trails to follow. but the number one thing and i think the number one achievement of the january 6 committee is anything bearing on trump's intent. and that means any time that we've learned that he found out, he knew it was happening, and he went ahead anyway. so, there's quite a lot there to

substantiate that. and then just in general. the conspiracy looks to be both bigger and longer than we had understood. those 200 contacts -- we knew about raffensperger, but 200. that's really startling. and of course we now know from the report that even before the election, they had decided on this big lie strategy. for the department of justice, the number one thing is the proof of intent. they've done a pretty darn good job of substantiating it with different witnesses. but that'll be the issue and the notion from trump's guy. oh, there's really nothing going here. it strikes me as whistling in the graveyard. there's a wealth of information going to his intent and knowledge. >> governor, let's talk about how to stop this from ever happening again, what lawmakers have learned to put in even more

guardrails. here's the committee's recommendations from the january 6th report. trump and others involved in the insurrection should be barred from holding office. stronger penalties for threatening election officials, which we know so many election officials have had to endure. new legislation. more oversight over the capitol police. changes to the electoral count act. combat white nationalist and antigovernment groups. evaluate media companies that radicalize consumers. what do you think will make the biggest difference in stopping this? >> you know, i think ita smattering of the above. i don't think there's a silver bullet in this equation. i think we need to find solace in the fact that guardrails work. at the end of the day, this didn't go forward. you had the senior center from my home state calling folks from georgia. you had folks making calls and making pressure where they could. but at the end of the day, nothing happened. so, i would say, let's not overreact. i don't think we want to change

the electoral college. there was a real wisdom to what the founding fathers put in place there. i would be resonant about changing the electoral process. as far as barring trump and others from holding office, i have no problem with that. i think it would be difficult to pull off because of the total war that now marks politics of this day and age. >> congressman, it's interesting to hear what governor sanford is saying because, yeah, the guardrails held, but a little too close for comfort. what do you think would make the biggest difference? >> look, alisyn, there's so much in the report, over 1,000 depositions, over 1,000 witnesses interviewed, over 80 people subpoenaed. so, there's a lot there that could guide us as we move forward. and we've already begun to do that. there was provisions within the omnibus bill that addressed the count. and so we've already began to

take a look at what we can do legislatively to strengthen the guardrails. i think it's important to say that. i think a big debate over the electoral college should be had in america, but that's a long-term effort. but i think that we should strengthen the guardrails. and there's enough there to guide us and take preventive action. >> okay. friends, thank you very much for all of that. moving on. frigid temperatures are not stopping migrants coming across the border. and they're not stopping republican governors from bussing them to blue states. so, what is the solution here? we're going to talk about that next. so, we switched to tide pods free & gentle. it cleans better, anand doesn't leave behind irritating residues. and it's gentle on her skikin. case, closed! it's gotta be tide. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, on a fixed budget, li insurance remember the three ps. what are the thr ps?

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the supreme court is expected to make a decision on title 42 sometime this week. but that will not solve the crisis at the border. migrants in el paso are trying to find shelter, as dangerously cold temperatures hit that area. but the influx of migrants is overwhelming officials there. we're also seeing more political stunts. several buses of migrants were dropped in washington, d.c. on christmas eve in front of vice president kamala harris' official residence. meanwhile, new york city seeing two more migrant buses arrive on christmas day, with up to 15 more expected in the next few days. back with us, looking for solutions, is congressman -- and cnn national security analyst juliet and frank luntz, who has new polling on how americans feel on all this. great to see all of you. julian, this is a problem.

there's 1.6 million asylum applications, okay, at the u.s. immigration court right now. that is the largest number ever on record, seven times more than there were in the year 2012. so, they're overwhelmed. the courts are overwhelmed. obviously the officials at the border are overwhelmed. and of course it's a national security issue because it's hard to keep track of all this. >> right, exactly. if you cannot control your borders -- as any nation knows, it is very difficult to assert that you have some control over your own national security. and you've seen this across europe, during refugee crises, certainly in the united states. one of the things you're seeing is these standards for asylum are established by congress. so, all you're seeing is people asserting some right to asylum status that is lawfully recognized. and then they have to go through

a process. title 42 essentially closed that down since 2020. about 2.3 people have been sent back over the border without what would have normally been their lawful asylum process. so, at some stage, this has to be lifted. title 42 has to be lifted because it's just too hard to argue anymore that we have a public health crisis. and you will see a surge. so, the solution -- most americans can somewhat agree on this, at least from polling is the dreamers are easy in the sense that most americans want them to get through. the undocumented people who were here in this country, that some lawful contest for them to become citizens is a good step forward, rather than trying to find them in the interior. and then greater border enforcement at this stage and working with our allies down south to try to stop this surge, which is not just from mexico, as most people believe. it's now cuba, venezuela, and

countries we haven't seen. >> frank, is that where your polling suggests too of what americans want to see? >> yes. and it's overwhelming. democrats, independents, republicans. if you start with securing the border -- because you can't have a country if you cannot have secure borders and national security -- and then you step the in and you give the dreamers the access, the pathway to earn citizenship. and the third aspect is to fix legal immigration because most americans actually want legal immigration -- legal immigration -- increased. take those three steps. 79% support, including a supermajority of republicans, independents, and democrats. and i have a simple statement to congress right now. get your act together. the public expects you to fix this. they've been complaining about this now for more than a decade. don't say the border's secure when it's not. don't say this a human policy when it clearly isn't. and don't play games with human life.

the idea that you turn this into a photo op is disgusting. we have a problem. we have a crisis. fix it, and stop playing around with mothers and fathers, and particularly children. >> well, let me put those tasks to our congressmen on the panel right now. and of course we don't expect you single handedly to fix it, congressman. however, i do feel like we've talked about this before on this set, and i feel like we have this circular conversation, which is clearly there's a problem. el paso is overrun. they're getting 1,500 asylum seekers a day. that's not what the system was set up to be able to withstand. as you say, everyone knows we need comprehensive immigration reform. but before we get there, why can't congress help, as we say, secure the border? >> well, we're willing to have a conversation about the border as a democrat. we try to do that, and we try to talk about the dreamers in this omnibus bill.

and the fees that are tied to the dreamers, we're getting to the other side of the aisle. i don't want to make this a one side of the aisle, this versus the other. even the dreamers, they poll over 80 people that want to help them. it's weaponized on a regular basis. and folks don't really want to talk about something that i think is so important. there is a crisis of democracy in the americas. where are these folks coming from? they're coming from venezuela. they're coming from cuba. we just had boats landed in florida from haiti. there is a crisis of democracy in the americas. and no one wants to talk about that. >> you know, we are the leader of the americas, and we should take a deep dive and see what it is that those countries need help with. you know, a mom will walk 2,000 miles with their child. why are they doing that? nobody wants to leave their homeland. nobody wants to leave their

famil family behind. >> i'm not sure how much the u.s. can do with these authoritarian countries to help with humanitarian causes there if the leaders don't want us to. >> things spin out of control out of our ability to impact them. but we must take a step forward. >> governor, i want to ask, what do you think of places, of the governors and places like texas, sending migrants to, you know, massachusetts or manhattan? do you think that that's effective? is it a political stunt? what are your thoughts on that? >> wehether it proves effective we'll see. it's certainly a blunt political instrument. i don't see it as a stunt, but i see it as a way of saying, we're desperate down here. we've got to have something done. and can we make it real to you? and too often that's not the case in politics. people see what's right around them, and that's about it.

and -- backyard. it's simply a way of trying to make it real. we have a crisis. what's crazy is the degree to which this is politicized. there's border funding indirectly from the united states congress for poland against belarus, same in syria. and yet we have this border wall, if you will, built against the idea of doing anything tied to securing our own border first before other political activities come. >> and what would that look like? >> and people are suing the governor of arizona for building his own border wall. >> governor, i'm just looking for solutions. what would that look like? we all want the border secured? what are we not doing? what would that look like to you? >> first thing is you would overturn what biden has done, in allowing asiylum in the united states as opposed to mexico. i'm not a trump fan, it's well

chronicled. but waiting for asylum in mexico -- >> title 42, which is what the supreme court is debating right now. >> what's that? >> that's title 42, what the supreme court is going to be deciding on. >> that's what turned the spi got on if you look at the delta in migration. it's tied to the way we approached asylum seekers. >> juliet, is that true? is that because of title 42 or is that because of what's going on the venezuela, as the congressman said? >> it's the history and history of immigration policies i think results in one decisive conclusion, which is the pull and push of america is sometimes less than the pull and push of what's happening in the americas. and those are immigration policies, they've been less harsh, cruel, less cruel. and for the most part, you just see these waves of migration that are related to what's

happening in cuba or venezuela or wherever else. everyone knows that the solution is about why do people want to come here? then, as frank was making clear, you want a lawful immigration process. for example, the mexican border, you've got millions of people crossing the border every month, right? you have to have a lawful system that gets that flow going because both countries thrive on it. and then you have to have a humane process for people that are coming over. so, the idea that, you know, we're going to -- i guess two things. one is the idea that we're going to resolve the failure of comprehensive immigration reform, which consistently falls on the gop. it's just they just don't want to do it because their base doesn't want it to happen, including the dreamers. that failure means that we are driving our immigration policy through title 42. >> that's a covid policy.

i hear what you're saying. go ahead, governor. >> yeah, i don't think that's fair. the realities are on both sides here. the fact is we is are the program from 1946 to 1964. he was a guest worker program with mexicans coming up and going home. it worked quite well. but the fact is democrats feared the labor unions and were part of shutting it down and keeping it down. we could have a guest worker program tomorrow on the republican side that would, again, ease a lot of what's going on. but, again, democrats don't want that. there's deals on both sides that can play the blame game. >> go ahead, frank. >> polling data shows that a majority of republicans and independents and democrats support the d.r.e.a.m. act. that's not the case. maybe the loudest people are complaining. we have now come to the conclusion that children who were brought here through no fault of their own have the ability to earn citizenship by

following a certain set of procedures. and the american people, including the republican party, want that. >> i really appreciate that. let's see what the new congress does next week. thank you all very much for this conversation. >> nothing. >> and that side comment. did you know the average senator is 64.3 years old? this is the oldest senate in u.s. history. so, what will it take to get younger people want to be involved in leadership in this country? frank luntz has some ideas, and we're going to talk about it next. (children giggling) hey, i was, uh, thinking about going back to school to get my masters. i just saw something that said you could do it in a year for, like, $11k hmm. barista: order eleven! yeahsee you at 11.

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when will we see a new generation of leaders in this country? well, frank luntz was just in africa for ten days teaching students from 40 different countries at the african leadership university. he says there's a lot to be hopeful about. and he joins us again now. frank, what are you hopeful about after this experience? >> well, there's not much to be hopeful here, quite frankly. t and i do teach a number of universities. i have tremendous faith in what's happening over there. and the reason why is because they have so little. they figured out a way to make it worth so much. and here, we have so much, we don't seem to appreciate it. they realize that their leaders,

that they need to hold them accountable, and that corruption destroys anything they have in a better future. they realize they need to learn ideas and need to work together with people that they otherwise might disagree with. and what's most powerful for me about the african leadership university is that you've got countries that are at war with each other or almost at war, yet students are working together, living together, thriving together. a lesson for america, we can put aside our deceisagreements, our differences, for the greater good to do something positive not just for us, but for others. i loved it, and it gave me hope for the future. >> and so where do we start? and also frank, obviously everybody wants a youth infusion into leadership. as we just said, this is the oldest senate ever in u.s. history. president biden is the oldest president. but with age comes experience.

and so that's a benefit, right? >> it is. but the average age of the united states senator is deceased. we feed need to give younger pe the opportunity to come into the work force, to come and take up leadership positions. they need to be trained. they need to be educated. they have a lot to learn, but they have a lot to give. and at the african leadership university, what makes it special is that every student is required to succeed on their own. it's self-directed learning. so, they have the chance to really get inside some of these very difficult issues. and i applaud the biden administration for bringing the african leaders here to washington, d.c. but we need to raise the bar. we need to ask more of them. we are spending billions of dollars in aid. where's the accountability? we are investing so much time and treasure. where are the results? these students, they're owed the same kind of future that we have. we can do it on an individual basis. i want the entire global

community, regardless of partisanship, regardless of ideology, to see it in a very simple way. we really are our brothers keepers, our sisters keepers, and we have to do more to help people because in the end, we'll all rise together or we'll all fail together. >> that's inspiring, frank. and we really do obviously want our best and brightest young people to get involved in public service and in leadership. let's hope that some of that that you just learned translates over here to the u.s. frank, great to see you. thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. imagine you're at the airport, you're waiting for your flight to board when the dreaded cancellation blairs over the weekers. what do you do? do you go home? not our next guests. they decided to band together and car pool together with total strangers across multiple states through a snowstorm. they're here to tell us about it next. and d consumes, replacing thought with w worry.

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events or travel plans right before christmas, you have to get creative. and that is exactly what my next guest did. the foursome were perfect strangers when their flight was canceled on thursday at tampa international airport. today they are bonded for life, after a long unexpected road trip together to cleveland. and they documented their adventure on tiktok, here is just a piece of that. ♪ ♪ ♪ have a holly jolly christmas. it's the best time of the year. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> they look like they are having too much fun. the posts have gotten millions of views in four days. the four road trips are here with us tonight. bridget schuster, greg, henry shelby manured and abby ratcliff. thank you, welcome to all of you guys.

it's great to see you. how did this happen that you were all strangers and you were like, yeah, let's go into car and drive 20 hours together? >> oh, well, after our flight got canceled we were trying to figure out what to do exactly and how we are all supposed to work together. i don't know whose idea was but we are just trying to work together. eventually greg actually was like, hey, we should go ahead and rent a car. he got the already. and then we did it. honestly, we just sent it. >> abby, was there any moment where you thought, getting into a car with two guys that i don't know at all and another woman and driving for 20 hours maybe this isn't wise? >> definitely. there is definitely that moment of hesitation where you are like, is this the best idea? is this the best choice? after a lot of conversation and a lot of, like, thinking through, like, okay, what are other options, and that sort of thing. we all decided to go for it. but there is definitely a lot of thought that goes into a

decision like this. >> so greg, it is not as if this drive was easy. i mean, 20 hours in a car with strangers, number one, that is probably never easy. but there were dicey moments. you were driving through a snowstorm. i mean, it was dangerous. you guys took video of it. you posted on tiktok. there are definitely moments that are, you know, as you are driving. it's not weighed okonjo shuns, but was the driving hazardous that anytime? >> oh definitely. and it definitely was to our advantage that we went so late. like, we were driving, you know, three of them. hardly any traffic. if there was traffic that definitely would've slightest on a lot more. but being from ohio, honestly, it wasn't gonna stop me. like, i have driven through some pretty bad snowstorms. people down south, like, you are nuts. >> brigitte, how do you decide, how did you will decide who would drive? did anybody sleep during these 20 hours? >> we all kind of just took

turns driving. we each have, i think, pretty easy shifts. it was when we felt like driving. could be like, all right, i'll drive next. that is kind of how it went. but nobody slept throughout the whole journey. i don't think anyone slept at all. so we were definitely pretty exhausted when we got back. but i think, you know, i think we all feel like it was pretty well worth it. >> so shelby, what is the lesson here for everyone watching? >> man, alison, the lesson would definitely be, i don't know. just making sure that we don't see the baton people all the time. i think people can see the bad. for us, we automatically had that connection. it seems like, because we had that desperate time of, almost, we need to go back home to visit our families. so definitely easy to do. desperate time. but definitely trust people more. maybe try not to just say, oh,

that is not good. i don't know. >> abby, are you guys gonna see each other again? >> yes, every christmas, we are making this a yearly tradition. >> wait a minute. >> no, i am sure that -- >> drive 20 hours together every christmas? >> no, of course not. so, yes, we would love to see a connection. and we have got like a group chat going. but if we see each other in person again that would be lovely. >> that is awesome. >> well, you guys, it is great to see all of you. i am so glad it worked out. that is a nice lesson for everyone. that you can rely on the kindness of strangers. brigitte, greg, shelby, abby, have a great rest of your holidays. thank you so much for talking. >> thank you, alison. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay, the trouble walls are not over, sadly, as of this evening, southwest airlines has canceled nearly 70% of their flights and they are not done. so they are not the only airline of course canceling flights. stay with us, we will give you an update.

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