pn. you mean our medicare plan? damn you too much sun! check the singlecare price today! the news continues so lets hand it over to allison camera at cnn tonight. alison? >> thank you so much, really appreciated, hope you had a great holiday. and good evening everyone, this is cnn tonight, i'm alison kherrata. deadly winter weather still wreaking havoc across the country. tonight, travel is still a nightmare. with the lows of fights canceled and passenger stranded in airports. unless one of those threatened passengers gets a wildes heron

decides with another group of passengers to rent a car drive 20 hours to their destination together. that is exactly what some of our guests tonight did. in a little while, i will introduce you to this group of total travel total strangers, who had a quite an adventure when they decided to drive from tampa to cleveland together and they reported their trip and it went viral. meanwhile, ten billion people across the south are under freeze alerts. and the death toll from the storm is dry saying. at least 49 people have died across the country. 27 of those are in the buffalo area. authorities fear that they will find more bodies in cars as they begin to dig out from what is being called the worst storm in the region's history. you can see some of it there. while police have their hands full with rescues, stores are being looted. i will talk to a supermarket messenger who spent christmas eve washing his store who got broken into. i want to bring in now cnn's miguel marquez, he's live for us in rochester. we were

supposed to be in by buffalo but what happened? >> yeah, buffalo is socked in. there's just no way in or out. they have a travel ban in the city itself right now. the snow is just so intense that it is almost impossible to get in. they, officials there are trying to plow those streets right now, at least to get to go this cars and homes from people they haven't heard from. 27 people are dead in this new york county in the fear there will be more. an unprecedented step hitting watched during new york. -- the blizzard of 22. parts of buffalo humbled with about 43 inches of snow and working force winds the death toll of at least two dozen people in the area. this could be a lot of welfare checks and

unfortunately, i -- thought the toll is going to go up. it just gut-wrenching. erie county new york brought to a literal standstill with people trapped in their homes and cars. this was the first time in buffalo fire history that they could not respond to emergency calls because of how severe the conditions were. >> county officials sending in specialized trucks to rescue the rescuers. >> i couldn't see two feet in front of my vehicle. we had to rescue deputies. so we brought in snowmobiles, you tvs, atvs. one file rigs are getting struck in gonna measure what happened to the public. >> almost major highways have at least one lane clear for emergency traffic, many residential roads are still impassable with vehicles abandoned in the middle of the street. >> we have had snow plows, major snow plows and rescue vehicles, i saw them myself in ditches buried in snow. >> officials urging residents to stay home. >> stay off the roads so we can continue to rescue people, get them safe,

make sure that the roads are clear so we can reopen our community as soon as humanly possible. >> buffalo under a driving ban, but that hasn't stopped some from taking advantage of the situation. police have made arrests for looting. many videos on social media show looters at work, merchandise being carried out on foot. >> people who are out looting when people are losing their lives in this harsh winter storm, it is just absolutely reprehensible. >> all while thousands of homes and businesses are still without power. one family who lost their he tried to make it to a hotel on christmas. we >> couldn't see anything. we couldn't see the stop play, it was like you kind of just had to drive through the intersection -- basically. >> their prayers answered by airport firefighters who were able to rescue the tisdale's along with dozens of other trapped drivers. >> those guys were amazing, at the firehouse.

they treated us with nothing but love. >> so we should point out it wasn't just those individuals that were rescued, rescuers were able to pull about 500 people about pretty severe conditions, rescuing over 500 people in the area. they're hoping to do that more. if they're any new good news on the horizon, on thursday, it is meant to go up into the 40s and on friday, in the 50s. a big melts will be on by weeks end. alison. >> that's great but there are many just go before thursday. and it is still frigid. there enough to tell. you do know how much of the power still out in that region? >> several thousand people are still without power. everywhere you drive in this region, you try to get into buffalo today, everywhere we went you saw the

power crews out there fixing lines, downed trees, all sorts of issues bringing down power. several thousands now. they've got tens of thousands of people power that that, outputs several -- cold there tonight, many people without power for several days now. >> okay miguel. think go get warm. thank you. we appreciate it. now i want to bring in dan i coburg. or he is the upstate district manager for the save -- that got loaded during the storm. dan, thanks so much for being here. i know you had an upsetting christmas eve. because you were watching your story get looted. how were you able to watch that happen? >> it was tough, alison. you know, christmas eve, you want to do other things with your family. our phones went off with the alarm, that people wear in our store. we have camera system so we checked and saw what was going on. it was just ridiculous to watch. -- >> what did you see diane? >> we were able to watch. i think we have

videos you can share. it people actually just coming into our store and looting and destroying everything in our stores. so, it was just really heart-wrenching to watch. it went on all day. one on through the night. so, it was difficult to watch on christmas eve. on christmas day. >> that is no way to celebrate. christmas. we feel for you a. soon as we herbal to process in turnaround the video, we will share it with people. did you call the police while this was happening? >> we did. we called the police and i trust myself to call. as they said, the news briefing there, they were unable, -- 9-1-1 system was down in buffalo. so it was very hard. you know, you own a business in your senior business being

looted. you want the police there. we did. we wanted them to stop doing what they were doing. it was very tough in this area of buffalo. a food desert. in this area. a lot of people know after the shooting, very few grocery stores in this area. so, our goal is to try and maintain the this business and keep it afloat. in order to help out the buffalo community. yeah. >> hey dan we, now have that video. this is a closed circuit tv that you are able to watch on christmas eve. you are watching the looters just go through your store, obviously uninhibited because police are busy the vote and not able to do anything. do you know what they stole? do you know what kinds of things where they looking for? >> it really was everything. it really wasn't the normal things you would

think that people would take. the turkeys, the hams, things like that. those are all still in the store. it was candy bars, battery's, individual bottles of soda. just a lot of stuff, as the night went on it became less polluting and more of a destruction. over registers were destroyed, the computers were knocked down which is probably one of the biggest problems that we have. in order to get up and running we have to make sure we have -- sales and stuff working. luckily, today, we didn't -- save a lot and they are overnighting a sin equipment. they're going to overnight a -- in when the it opens up in the morning which is outstanding for this company the stores are all independently owned. we are all small business owners. which a lot of people don't understand. >> yeah. dan, this is what makes this so sad. obviously the community is struggling enough. because of this once in a generation store. it is christmas. and as you say, people often wonder, are these desperate people who are breaking in for formula and diapers and hands? or are they kids, or whatever, characterize it however you like or, just as you say, bent on destruction and stealing candy bars? so you know -- go ahead. >> you have this time stamp on this. this is 30 minutes after midnight on christmas eve. they really didn't take food. wasn't coming down looking for food because the stores were closed they were hungry. it was just looting. and destruction. >> so

dan, when are you going to be able to -- the store open yet? >> we are not open. we have got an alert today. around 11:00 today. we kind of had to wait for things to come down in that area. there were a lot of carjackings. things like that. the area is just hard to go around right now because of the snow. my management team, one of our lazy salons with -- with me this morning. we spent the day getting it all cleaned up. i've got some really ugly kids that work for me. soon as they her opening the store, they worked all day. in order to help us get cleaned up . >>

that's great. that's really good here. >> that's the only positive thing i can say. >> do you know how much, do you know what this is going to cost you? >> right now we are guesstimate-ing probably around a quarter of 1 million dollars loss. >> well dan, that is really, as i said that is really adding insult to injury there. in your area, obviously i don't have to tell you. >> we are trying to reach out, reaching out to councilman -- trying to get with him, work with him and see if there's anything the city can do or the state. we know the federal -- was signed today. so we are hoping that maybe, we can get in on some of that that would help speed along this process. >> okay. we will talk to the president and city council momentarily. we will see if you can help also. dan, take care. hope that you are able to put together something positive for the holidays. we really appreciate you sharing your story with us. >> this is buffalo, where, this is just, it is in our blood. goebbels is all i can say. >>

on that no, thanks so much. we will check back in with you. thank you so much. let's go now to christopher scanlon, he is the president's -- counsel. mr. scanlon, thanks for being here. you just heard what dana was talking about, a quarter of 1 million dollars of damage to a store. that is just one local store obviously. that is suffering here. so, can you give him any comfort tonight? >> yeah. alison, thank you for having me. it is heartbreaking to hear what you and denver talking about. fortunately dance wasn't the only instance of this. any of those individuals are out there, those opportunists who are damaging, cremating damage and looting these stores, they need to be held accountable. private conversation with dan, you referenced people who may have been desperate and looking for formula or food or something like that. that is not what

these people are doing. a lot of them are just out there, they are opportunists, looking for -- >> yeah. for so dan, let's talk about, sorry i should say, let's talk about the condition that jury can tee and buffalo are in tonight. last we knew there were 27 deaths in erie county and we have a graphic that we could put up of what caused those deaths during the storm. there were ems delays, there were 14 people found outside and i assume that those were people who were looking for help, trying to get to safety. do you know, is that still with the death toll is and can you share anything about why so many people have died? >> yeah. think when you are talking about the storm that it was this week, the only work to adequately describe it is a catastrophic. if you were only to receive the four or five feet of snow, if we only received the blizzard like conditions or hurricane force winds, you might have been able to handle it. but when we received -- when you mix it all together you have a deadly storm, as you mentioned unfortunately that is what we are dealing with. two dozen confirmed deaths at this point related to the storm. and

unfortunately, we mentioned that we imagine that numbers will increase as rescue and snow move will operate in in the coming days. -- people may have been caught in their cars during storms and then seek shelter. other situations like that as well. as you mentioned with, at the top of the broadcast you talked about how much power outage there was. it a lot of people without power for several days. despite national grid's best efforts to keep the power back on a soon as possible, you had people experiencing horrendous situations. so i think all of us are -- >> absolutely. so chris, or other people trapped at this hour still? what are the rescue and recovery operations happening now? >> yeah. there is been an ongoing effort, municipal county, state resources have been pulling together and they are working together to find people who may still be without power. i

believe it's of 7:00 tonight there were still around 7000 people in the city of buffalo without power. trying to turn that power back on. i want to give credit to national grid in the work they've been doing. members of the buffalo department of public works -- that have been clearing roads, to let them get to where they need to go and turn power on. it has been a herculean effort. if you will be applauded for. in addition to that, i have to mention, obviously this is a situation with tremendous heartache. there is also incredible acts of bravery and heroism and things of that nature. men and women of the buffalo fire department and police department been working for days on end, trying to rescue people, putting themselves in harm's way despite the incredible weather. i just want to recognize the incredible work they've been doing. in truth a flow spirit, everything that has been coming at us the last couple of days, you have people throughout the -- first responders are -- providing food to them at their

stations, at the fire houses, making sure they are healthy in the can go out and rescue people. >> well, that is actually really horrible. i am glad you are taking a minute to applaud all of those folks. obviously they're angels and we need them. so chris scanlon, thank you very much for taking the time. we know that it is a dire situation there tonight. we are thinking of all of you. we really appreciate talking to you. >> thank you alison, i appreciate it. >> okay. meanwhile, also new revelations from the january 6th committee. they keep coming. we are going to bring those to you. what should lock makers do now to make sure that our democratic process is never compromised again? -- well look, there's a lot to sift pnosis... or, quit cold turkey.

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to release more transcripts, witness interviews, already massive report laid out what they say is former president trump's multi part plan to overturn the 2020 election. here is their conclusion. quote, the central cause of january 6th was one man whom many other people followed. and of the events of january six would've happened without them, and quote. let's bring in cnn political correspondent sara murray. democratic congressman from new york air gianna -- form republican congressman and south carolina governor for -- former u.s. attorney harry lippman. thank you to all for joining me. sarah, i know you have been sifting through all of the evidence and their conclusions, but a lot of people tuned out, of course, from christmas. and their holiday weeks. so just give us some of the headlines. well, look, there is a lot to sift through. between the report and the transcripts. but even these transcripts we're learning new information. there was one in transcript that reference to this draft

press release, the white house was dropping in december of 2020. that we never heard about before. it was right after bill barr had publicly done interview saying there was no widespread fraud, he then attorney general over the white house -- anybody that thinks there was not massive fraud in 2020 election should be fired. never issued this press release, eventually bill barr resigned from the administration anyway, we didn't know about that until we saw this pop up in one of the questions investigators asked. one of the other big findings from the report was how extensive the pressure campaign that trump put on state officials was. i will point they say trump and his inner circle engaged in at least 200 apparent acts of public or private outreach to over turn state election results. we know the former president was calling election officials and trying to get state to overturn their election results but what they really try to -- the scope of the efforts by trump's allies to overturn the election. lastly, we are just learning more in some of these transcripts from some of these former white house aides, -- she noted that she learned about the capitol riots and start piecing it together when

she was sitting at her desk eating a turkey sandwich. she also told investigators that soon after she was subpoenaed to do her interview with the january 6th committee she got a call from the former president. she told investigators, i believe shortly after i was subpoenaed i received a call from president trump but i did not answer the call as. i noted to the committee have not spoken to him since being subpoenaed. -- called a couple of witnesses and tried to reach out to a couple of witnesses but they did not name any of the names. we learned that kayleigh mcenany was one of the people the former president tried to reach out to before interview. >> was great. thank you for laying that out. harry, that leads us to you. what do you think look at the department of justice's attention? some of these things, we had heard bits of pieces of but for instance some times as sara just said, the 200 acts of personal reach out, outreach i'd sued say,

trying to get people to somehow tamper with the election results and then, knowing that kelli mcenany, in your speak, witness tampering perhaps, the fact that president trump was trying to call her, so what do you think the doj will be most interested in? >> look. it is a huge, huge thing. they will be dozens of trails to follow but the number one thing, i think the number one achievement also of this january six committee, is anything bearing on trump's intent. that means, anytime that we learned that he found out and it was happening and went ahead anyway so. there's quite a lot there to substantiate that. then just in general, the conspiracy looks to be both bigger and longer than we had understood. those 200 contacts that you knew about raffensperger but 200, that is really startling. of course, we don't know from the report, even before the election, they had decided on this big lie strategy. for the department of justice, the

number one thing is the proof of intent. they have done a pretty darn good job of substantiating it with different fitness is but that will be the issue and the notion from trump's guys. oh there is nothing going on here, strikes me as whistling in the graveyard. in fact there's a wealth of information going to his intent and knowledge. >> so governor, let's talk about how to stop this from ever happening again. what lawmakers have learned to try and put in even more guardrails. the committee's recommendations from the january 6th report, trump and others involved in the

insurrection should be barred from holding office. stronger palatable teas for threatening election officials. which we know so many election officials have had to endure. new legislation to enforce house subpoenas in federal court, more oversight of the capital the police, changes to the electoral count for, combat white nationalist and anti government groups and evaluate media companies that radicalize consumers. what do you think will make the biggest affronts in stopping this? >> you know, i think it is a matter -- don't think there's a civil bullet in this inclination i. think we also need to find -- founding fathers put in place worked. at the end of the day, this didn't go forward. yet the senior center for my a -- lot of people making calls and making pressure where they could. but at the end of the day, nothing happened and so i would say -- i think there was a real wisdom to what e the -- i would be resident opposed to putting on the -- from holding office, i've no problem with that. i think would be very difficult legislatively to pull off though, because of the tug of war that now, that sort of marks politics in the stage. >>

congressman, it is interesting to hear what governor stanford says, because yes, the guardrails -- little too close for comfort. what do you think would make the biggest difference? >> look allison, there's so much in the report over thousands of positions, over 1000 witnesses were interviewed, over 80 people were subpoenaed. so there's a lot there that could guide us as we move forward. we have already begun to do that. there was positions within the -- bill that address, the count. so we have already begun to take a look at what we can do legislatively to strengthen the guardrail. i think there is it, imposing port to say that. i think a big debate over the electoral college should be had in america. but that is a long term effort. i think, we should

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sometime this week. it won't solve the crisis at the border. migrants in el paso are trying to find shelter as dangerously cold temperatures hit that area. but the influx of migrants is overwhelming officials there. we're also seeing more political stance. several busts of migrants were dropped off in washington, d. c., on christmas eve in front of kamala harris's official residence. meanwhile new york city seeing two more migrant buses arrive on christmas day. with up to 15 more expected in the next few days. looking for solutions is -- and former congressman mark sanford, cnn national security analyst, juliette fine, and communications strategist frank let's, who did a poll on how americans feel about all. this juliet, this is a problem. there's 1. 6 million asylum applications. at the u.s. immigration reports right now. that is the largest number ever on record. seven times more than there were in the year 2012. so, they're overwhelmed. the courts are overwhelmed, obviously, the officials at the border are overwhelmed. and of course it's a national security issue, because it's hard to keep track of all that. that's >> right, exactly, if you can't control your borders, as any nation knows, it's very difficult to assert that you

have some control over your own national security. you've seen this across europe, during refugee crisis, and in the united states. one of the things in terms of the numbers you're seeing. the standards for asylum, are established by -- all you're seeing is people asserting some right to asylum status. that's lawfully recognized. and then they need to go through a process title 42 essentially close that down since 2020. about 2. 3 people have been -- back over the border without what normally would've been a lawful asylum process. so, at some stage this has to be lifted. title 42 has to be listed. it's hard to argue that we have a public health crisis. and you will see a surge. the solution, as most americans can somewhat agree on this, frankly, -- the dreamers, they're easy. in the sense most americans want them to get through. [inaudible] for them to become citizens is a good

step forward rather than trying to find them in the interior. and the greater border enforcement at this stage. and working with our allies down south to try and stop this surge. which isn't just from mexico, as most people believe, it's not cuba, venezuela, and countries we haven't seen since. >> frank, is that what you're pulling suggest to, what americans want to see? >> yeah, as it's overwhelming, democrats, independents, republicans. if you start securing the border, because you can't have a country if you cannot have

secured borders, and national security. then you stop, you give the dreamers the access to the pathway to citizenship. and the third aspect, it takes legal immigration because most americans actually want legal immigration. legal immigration increase. take those three steps, 79% support. including a super majority of republicans, independents, and democrats. i was supposed to -- to congress right now. get your act together. the public expects you to fix this, they've been complaining about this now for more than a decade. don't say the border secure when it's not. don't say this is a humane policy, when it clearly isn't. and don't play games with human

life. the idea that you turn this into a photo op, is this costa. if you have a problem, you have a crisis, fix it, stop playing around with mothers, fathers, and children. >> well, i mean put those tasks to our congressman on the panel right now. we don't expect you to fix it, congressman, however, i do believe like we've talked about this before. on this very sat. we've had this circular conversation. which is clearly, there's a problem el paso's override. they're getting 15,000 asylum seekers a day. this isn't what the system was set up to be able to withstand. as you say, everybody knows we need comprehensive immigration reform. before we get there, like congress help secure the border? >> we are willing to have a conversation about the border, as democrat, we try to do that and talk about the dreamers in this pass bill. and the feats that are tied to the dreamers, in actuality keep the program moving forward, were guided by the other side of the aisle. i don't want to make this a one side of the aisle that this versus the other. i, cabinets issue event of the dreamers, which was a pull over 80%. they want to have it. it's weaponized on a regular basis. folks don't really want to talk

about something that is so important. there is a crisis of democracy in the americas. where these folks coming from? the coming from venezuela. they're coming from cuba. we had boats landing in florida from haiti, there is a crisis of democracy in the americas. and no one wants to talk about that. >> we are the leaders of the americas, we should take a deep dive and see what it is those countries need help. imam woodwork 2000 miles with her child. why are they doing that? no one wants to leave their homeland. no one wants to leave their family behind. >> i'm not sure how much the u. s. can do in these authoritarian countries, to help with humanitarian causes there of the leaders don't want us there. >> things have been out

of control. and it's been out of our ability to impact them. we must take a step forward. >> governor, i want to ask, what do you think of places of the governor like -- texas sending migrants to massachusetts or manhattan? do you think that affective, is a political stunt, what are your thoughts on that? >> whether it proves effective, we'll see. it's certainly a blunt political instrument. i don't see it as a stunt, i see it as a way of saying, we're desperate down here. we gotta have something done. i will make it realty you. and too often is not the case. people see what's right around them, that's about it. and it's the way of bringing it to light in

americans backyards. it's simply a way of trying to make it real. we have a crisis. and what's crazy is this is politicized. there's border funding indirectly from the united states congress, for poland and belarus, same in syria., yet we have this border wall if you, well-built against the idea of doing anything tied to securing our own border first, over other political activities cup. >> and what would that look like? >> building his own border. walls >> governor, i looking for solutions. well with that look like? we all want the border secured. what are we not doing, would that look like do you? >> the first thing, you overturn what biden has done. and allowing asylum in the united states as opposed to mexico. i'm again, i'm not a trump fan. as well chronicled. what they did say, you're gonna have asylum. why are you waiting for asylum in mexico. >> title 42, which is what the supreme court's debating right now -- >> that's title 42, that's what the supreme great is going to be deciding on this week. >> right. but that's what turned

this thinking on. if you look at the delta, in terms of the migration -- tied to that change in the way we approach asylum seekers. >> juliet, is that true, is not because of title 42 or because of what's going on in venezuela and cuba? >> so, the history of immigration an, immigration policy. i think results and wind decisive conclusion. which is the poll of america's somewhat lasts, then the pull and push of what's happening in the americas. there is all these immigration policies charged, it's been cruel, it's been less cool. for the most, part you see these waves of migration that are related to what's happening in cuba, venezuela, or whatever else.

everybody knows the solution isn't about -- why do americans and why did -- as frank was making clear, you want a lawful immigration process. for example, the mexican border you have millions of people crossing that border every month. you need to have a lawful system that gets that flow going, both countries thrive on it. that you need to have a humane process for people that are -- so, the idea that we're going to -- the idea that we're going to resolve the failure of comprehensive immigration reform. which consistently falls in the gop. it's that they don't want to do it because their face doesn't wanted to have. and including, the dreamers. that failure, that means that we are driving our immigration policy through public health laws. through title 42, which is ridiculous. >> i hear what you're saying. go ahead governor. >> i don't think that's fair. the reality is there's killed abel sides here. the fact is we had becerra from 19 -- he was a

guest worker programed with mexicans coming up. and going home, a work quite well. the fact is, democrats fear the labor union. and they were part of setting about and keeping it down. we can have a death worker -- that wouldn't, ghani's a lot of what's going on again, democrats don't want that. there's guilt on both sides, we can play the game but at the end of the day -- changing the amnesty laws. >> data shows that the majority of republicans, and independents, and democrats support the jmac. that in fact, it's not the case. maybe the loudest people are complaining. but we've come to the conclusion, that children who were brought here through no fault of their own, have the ability to earn citizenship by following a certain set of procedures, and the american people including the republican party want that. >> okay, i really appreciated. let's see with the new congress

does next week. thank you all very much for this conversation. [laughter] and that side comment. all right, did you know the average senator is 64. 3 years old? this is the oldest senate in u. s. history. so, what will it take to get younger people to want to be involved in leadership in this country? franklin's has some ideas, we'll talk about next.

>> when will we see a new generation of leaders in this country? we'll franklin's was justin africa for ten days teaching students from 40 different countries at the african new leadership university. he says there's a lot to be hopeful about. he joins us now. frank, do you hopeful after this experience? >> there's not much to be hopeful here quite frankly. i teach at university. a tremendous faith in what's happening over there. and the reason why is because they have so little. they figured out a way to make it worth so much. here we have so much, we don't seem to appreciate it.

we realize that there is leaders, they need to hold them accountable. and that corruption is destroyed in any faith they have in their future. to realize they need to learn ideas, work together with people that they otherwise might disagree with. and that they're powerful and performing. -- university. you've got countries that are already are almost at war, students are working together, living together, thriving together. it's a lesson for america, we can't put aside of -- we can put aside our differences, for the greater good to do something positive. not just for us, but for others. not just now, before the future. i loved it and it gave me some hope for the future. >> so, where italy star. and also, franklin,, obviously everybody wants a youth infusion. and the leadership, as we just said it's the oldest senate ever and u.s. history. president biden is the oldest president.

but with age comes experience. , so that's a benefit, ryan? >> it is. but they average age of u.s. senators deceased. we need to give younger people the opportunity to come into the workforce. to come and take up leadership is a shunts. they need to be trained. they need to be educated. they need a lot, they have a lot to learn. they've got a lot to. give. and at the leadership university, what makes it special is that every student is required to succeed on the run. itself director learning. they have the chance to really get inside some of these very difficult issues. i applaud the biden administration. for bringing the african leaders here to washington, d.

c.. we need to raise the bar. we need to ask more of them. we are spending billions of dollars in aid. where is the accountability? we are investing so much time and treasure. where the results? the students, their of the same kind of future that we have. we can do it on individual basis. i want the entire global community, regardless of partisanship, ideology, to see it in a very simple way. that we really are our mothers keeper. or sisters keepers. that we need to do more to help people. in the end, well all rise together. or we will all fail together. >> it's inspiring, frankly. don't our best, brightest young people to get involved. in public service, and leadership. let's hope that some of that, you've learned translates over here to the u.s.. frank, great to see you, thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> imagine you're at the airport, they're waiting for your flight to board. when the dreaded cancellation players over the speakers. what do you do? do you go home? not our next. acetate aside to band together and carpool 20 hours to their destination. with total strangers. across multiple states. through a snowstorm. they're here to tell us about it, next. realtor.com to each their home.

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canceled on thursday at tampa international airport. today they are bonded for life, after a long unexpected road trip together to cleveland. and they documented their adventure on tiktok, here is just a piece of that. ♪ ♪ ♪ have a holly jolly christmas. it's the best time of the year. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> they look like they are having too much fun. the posts have gotten millions of views in four days. the four road trips are here with us tonight. bridget schuster, greg, henry shelby manured and abby ratcliff. thank you, welcome to all of you guys. it's great to see you. how did this happen that you were all strangers and you were like, yeah, let's go into car and drive 20 hours together? >> oh, well, after our flight

got canceled we were trying to figure out what to do exactly and how we are all supposed to work together. i don't know whose idea was but we are just trying to work together. eventually greg actually was like, hey, we should go ahead and rent a car. he got the already. and then we did it. honestly, we just sent it. >> abby, was there any moment where you thought, getting into a car with two guys that i don't know at all and another woman and driving for 20 hours maybe this isn't wise? >> definitely. there is definitely that moment of hesitation where you are like, is this the best idea? is this the best choice? after a lot of conversation and a lot of, like, thinking through, like, okay, what are other options, and that sort of thing. we all decided to go for it. but there is definitely a lot of thought that goes into a decision like this. >> so greg, it is not as if this drive was easy. i mean, 20 hours in a car with strangers, number one, that is probably never easy. but there were dicey moments.

you were driving through a snowstorm. i mean, it was dangerous. you guys took video of it. you posted on tiktok. there are definitely moments that are, you know, as you are driving. it's not weighed okonjo shuns, but was the driving hazardous that anytime? >> oh definitely. and it definitely was to our advantage that we went so late. like, we were driving, you know, three of them. hardly any traffic. if there was traffic that definitely would've slightest on a lot more. but being from ohio, honestly, it wasn't gonna stop me. like, i have driven through some pretty bad snowstorms. people down south, like, you are nuts. >> brigitte, how do you decide, how did you will decide who would drive? did anybody sleep during these 20 hours? >> we all kind of just took turns driving. we each have, i think, pretty easy shifts. it was when we felt like driving. could be like, all right, i'll

drive next. that is kind of how it went. but nobody slept throughout the whole journey. i don't think anyone slept at all. so we were definitely pretty exhausted when we got back. but i think, you know, i think we all feel like it was pretty well worth it. >> so shelby, what is the lesson here for everyone watching? >> man, alison, the lesson would definitely be, i don't know. just making sure that we don't see the baton people all the time. i think people can see the bad. for us, we automatically had that connection. it seems like, because we had that desperate time of, almost, we need to go back home to visit our families. so definitely easy to do. desperate time. but definitely trust people more. maybe try not to just say, oh, that is not good. i don't know. >> abby, are you guys gonna see each other again? >> yes, every christmas, we are making this a yearly tradition.

>> wait a minute. >> no, i am sure that -- >> drive 20 hours together every christmas? >> no, of course not. so, yes, we would love to see a connection. and we have got like a group chat going. but if we see each other in person again that would be lovely. >> that is awesome. >> well, you guys, it is great to see all of you. i am so glad it worked out. that is a nice lesson for everyone. that you can rely on the kindness of strangers. brigitte, greg, shelby, abby, have a great rest of your holidays. thank you so much for talking. >> thank you, alison. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay, the trouble walls are not over, sadly, as of this evening, southwest airlines has canceled nearly 70% of their flights and they are not done. so they are not the only airline of course canceling flights. stay with us, we will give you an update. at mint we're not into wasting money. so we bought this spiffy stock footage for $500. our footage also came with another hand,

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>> the massive winter storm of across the country is still causing havoc tonight. at least 49 people were killed in the storm. and there is still roughly four feet of snow in the buffalo region. and thousands of flights are still getting canceled, leaving travelers stranded. so we want to bring in now, cnn's lucy kavanaugh, she is live for us in denver, what is the situation, lucy? >> well, alison, this is what not a lot of fun looks like. denver airport unfortunately leaving the airport a shunt in terms of flight delays and cancellations, more than 500 flights dela