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>> young player has a 20 recap some play in four and the youngest ever to score in a rock up. at the age of 18. he will forever be remembered in his native brazil as a national treasure and he'll be remembered around the world as the king of supper, perhaps the greatest ever to play the game. the news continues, so let's hand it over to us and caro and cnn tonight. >> thank you so much, great to see you, good evening everyone, this is cnn tonight, i'm alison camerota, there are new and shocking details from january six committee transcripts. you'll hear how senator lindsey graham vowed -- if only the white house would find him, quote, five dead voters, we'll explain.
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you also hear what donald trump thought of the january six rioters. spoiler alert, -- and you will hear about the text that don junior sent to mark meadows the day after his father lost the election. there is basically a road map for how to unconstitutional keep trump in office. don junior says he cannot remember who sent him that text, but see if you recognize some of the unique language in the text as a clue. as predicted, there are new developments tonight and new laws from congressman elect george santos. you know the one, he's the guy who lied about his high school, lied about going to college, lied about working on wall street, lied about being jewish. tonight, more of his lies are been exposed, and you'll hear him in his own words, lie about his mother's death. but first, let's start with newly released portions about the january 6 transcripts. let's bring in cnn sarah murray. sarah, what have you got? >> look, we're getting more insight into the interview that donald trump jr. gave to congressional investigators.
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it's interesting because the former president son, there was this text messages -- laid out a plan for donald trump to stay in power, similar to what played out. congressional investigators asking why did you send this tax to meadows, and don junior says, look, this looks like a copy and paste job. perhaps in reading it, it was a sophisticated details about things i don't necessarily know too much about. it sounded plausible, and i wanted to make sure that we were looking into the issues brought up and detects, and this was a text that don junior sent to mark meadows on november 5th, and a part of the text at the time, it's set we have operation control, total leverage, moral high ground, protest must start 2nd turn now. there's more of that there. very similar to what played out. again, cnn reported on this earlier, meadows techs, donald trump jr.'s lawyers said the same thing, that look, donald
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trump jr. was not the author of this tax. all of the sudden, they don't know where it came from. >> i don't think donald trump jr. was the author of it because we have operational control, total leverage, moral high ground. that grandiose language it kind of brings a bill but we'll get into that with our guest. meanwhile, we're also getting new details about how melania trump spilling out of the 2020 election. what is the latest on that? >> yeah, she was pretty unimpressed, according to the interview that these congressional investigators that would stephanie grisham, a top aide to melania trump while in the white house. stephanie grisham told investigators that melania trump was disenfranchised with the people around her husband at that point. she felt like he was not getting good advice. this is part of what stephen igor said. they did not seem to be anyone pushing back. that was one of her concerns, at least the push back and look at another side, and it did not seem at that time that anybody, mark meadows included, would offer other advice.
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she was really always the pragmatic, realistic give us the worst-case scenario type of person and nobody did that for him. grisham said the melania trump showered on donald trump jr.'s advice, kimberly gil freud advice, rudy giuliani, other folks that she was skeptical of, she felt again, according to stephanie gruesome, her husband is not getting good advice and the push back that she should have gotten. >> that has proven to be true. sarah, thank you very much. joining me now, we have former water gate prosecutor, nick akron, also editor of the national review and former senator doug jones. gentlemen, great to have you here. i don't mean to be flippant, but this grandiose language in this tax that don junior sent to mark meadows, it does ring a bell, doug. when somebody says, quote, we have operational control, total leverage, moral high ground, protests must start the 2nd term no, state assemblies will step in and vote to put forward the electoral state,
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republicans control 28 states, democrats 22, once again, trump once. i don't know if that was an inebriated rudy giuliani or steve benin, but, that was a road map for what they ended up trying to do. >> yeah, there is no question about that, and the really interesting about that to me, alison, is that it clearly shows on that day, donald trump jr. thought his father lost the election. you don't hear anything in there about voter fraud, the fact that these lawsuits may be successful because they have great evidence. he clearly thought the election was done and over, and they had not even called it yet. again, i am with you. i don't think that is his language, which i think is clearly a set state of affairs when you had to copy and paste, plagiarize something to try to pretend to be smarter than you are, but that is the way it is these. this >> absolutely, and through
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sheer force of will and trickery, they thought that this would work, this is what will do. >> no question. >> the thing about it is that it was not possible, and it would not have been to anybody with rudimentary understanding of the u.s. constitution and the electoral process, but with donald trump jr. testifying that he was not especially converse with all of that, i think that is one of the most plausible things that he is a percent. so, maybe it did seem possible to him, but one of the things that really sticks out, this is one melania trump complains about the path of ice trump was getting, trump had the advisers he wanted. he was listening to the people he wanted to listen to. there was no shortage of people, even in the white house, that would have told him that this made no sense and was unconstitutional, as the january 6 committee pointed out. lots of people had serious reservations about all this even close to the president,
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but they're not the ones he wanted to listen to, because they weren't the ones telling him what he wanted to hear. >> what the january 6 committee has done so effectively is illuminate all of this. we've heard bits and pieces. at every single hearing, we've heard different hair raising things, but the fact that they have now, they have it in black and white. it's an all the transcripts, they laid it all out. this started the day after the election, the day after the election, they started making their plans for how to unconstitutional keep him in office. >> no question about it. i think what happened here was that rudy giuliani, john easement or some of the other crazy's got to don junior and basically used don junior to get the donald trump. this was pretty much the continuing saga that occurred from the election on through january 6, where you had people trying to get to donald trump.
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you had the people in the white house counsel office trying to keep away sydney powell, trying to keep away general flynn, but they all seemed to get through somehow. i think this is probably one of those first breaches in the system where others divided don junior with a roadmap of what they thought donald trump should do, and this was their first effort to get in front of him there crazy ideas. it obviously worked. they just kept pounding away until they convince donald trump that this was the way to go. >> it was not even just from the election, it was before the election, as well. a number of things that the trump administration, political operation did made sense only in the context of the attempt to deal the election in advance and make it impossible to contested. that is why we had republican efforts to not allow the counting of mailed in ballots
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until after election day. it was to create this illusion that trump was ahead because of election day votes, and that something sinister was happening when the mail in votes erased his leads. >> donald trump also planted the seeds that if he did not come in there, there had to be some kind of fraud. before the election, he started planting those seeds, as well. senator, there's also something illuminating in these transcripts about what lindsey graham, senator lindsey graham was doing behind the scenes, so christina bobb testifies to senator graham saying, well, get me your information, just give me 5 that voters, give me an example of illegal voting, give me a small snapshot that i can take and champion. what i hear here, and i am interested in your thoughts, this is lindsey graham playing them. this is lindsey graham saying, i am happy to go out and talk about how dead people voted. if you just give me a few examples, and knowing, i think
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you knew, that doesn't never come. >> i do think, alison, it's senator graham standpoint -- i will not do it just based on no facts, no representation, only your word and representation. give me anything. politicians do the, lawyers do that all the time, where they take some facts, something they can hang their hat on and kind of run with it and blow it up a bit. i think that is what senator graham is going to do, the subtle message in their. if you got nothing, leave me out of this, because i will not go out there and walk the plank and give the american public information if i cannot back anything up, anything at all, the operative word there. >> that's how i read that. and then president bob did produce something and send it over to senator graham, and the title of it was chairman graham, dead votes memo, for your
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consideration. strangely, he never did do it, so obviously, there was nothing there. >> well, he did do part of it. let's look at what happened afterwards, i guess in december, a couple weeks before donald trump made that famous january 2nd call on to brad reference burger, the secretary of state of georgia, lindsey graham was in there talking about the same things with brett reference burger. he was trying to pressure him. it wasn't about that voters this time, it was about the people that did not really sign the absentee ballots, which was another issue that donald trump was harping on and knew was false, that he also raised with brett roethlisberger after it did not work with lindsey graham. i don't think lindsey graham is necessarily an innocent player here. he jumped right in and called up a brat reference burger and gave him the same pitch that was later repeated almost
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verbatim by donald trump, and it's all on tape. >> you're right, i don't mean to absolve senator graham of this, it's just i hear a bit of a duplicity, yes, happening where he tells them one thing but he never planned to do. >> i think it was an ambiguous statement because he is saying, you need to give me something to work with here, but he is also saying, it does not have to be a lot, you can just give me a slip there of something, and i will start pounding the table about it. >> and then no surprise, i alluded to this in the open that stephanie grisham testified to what donald trump really thought of the rioters. she says in this new transcript, i heard from several people in the west wing, more in the military aid or secret service side that a couple of people, he was sitting in the dining room, and he was just watching it all unfold, and then a couple of his comments were that these people look very trashy.
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but also, what fighters they were. that is quintessential donald trump, senator. >> you know, i got nothing, it is quintessential donald trump. i don't like these people, and it's been one of the things that people have known for a long time, he does not like the very people he trusts to get the vote for him. he talks them, he talked senator sessions are his attorney general about being from the south or university of alabama. he just does not like these folks, yet he will use them to his benefit, and i think it is pretty telling. >> con men are not known for their respect and admiration for their marks as a general rule. >> i don't like them, but they like me, and that is good enough. all right gentlemen, thank you very much for all of that. there's much more from this latest batch of transcripts, including what the secretary of defense said about why he did not speak to donald trump during the desperate hours at
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the capital attack. plus the line congressman elect strikes again, this time lying about his own mother's death. it back. but there are ways you can repair it. i'm excited about pronamel repair because it penetrates deep into the tooth to help actively repair acid-weakened enamel. i recommend pronamel repair to my patients.
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. we're joined tonight by william cohen, who served as the press secretary under president clinton, also a former u.s. senator and congressman. secretary, i am looking for to toughen you tonight but definitely about this next transcript, excerpt of a transcript because it's of the acting then defensive qatari, and it's what was going on behind the scenes during those awful three plus hours when president trump was m. i. a. and the capital was being attacked. let me read it to you and get your perspective on this. okay, so this is between the chairwoman liz cheney and chris miller, the acting defense
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secretary. cheney said, mr. mueller, did you tried to reach president trump that they? he said, no, i did not. she said, why not? he said, i had all the authorities are needed to perform a duties and responsibilities that they and didn't need any further guidance from the president. he goes on to say, -- oh, she asked, who were you on the phone with? i don't know who are on the phone calls, -- i know i want to say that pat cipollone, whatever the president attorney might've been on their, i don't know more than that. she says, in terms of the authorities that they to call out the guard, where did those authorities come from? he says, those authorities presided with me, and once speaker pelosi and mcconnell and the rest of the coal had a call, had already done it. we had a request by that point in from air bowser who had the legal authority to request, and then the follow-up call, where it's quite clear that the political leadership desired the department of defense
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support. >> so what strikes you from that exchange, and would you have talked to the president that day? does it surprise you that he did not feel any need to talk to president trump? >> well, what struck me, two things, you first said that i had all the guidance i needed. what was the guidance he had to begin with? it's very unclear whether he had any guidance. secondly, he cannot turn to nancy pelosi, speaker of the house, the attorney general, it's a national security adviser, his authority comes from the president of the united states. if you read the executive order, 11 485, that said he may act to call out the d. c. guard upon direction from the president of the united states. at a minimum, when he's getting calls from house leadership and desperate calls, at minimum, he needed to call the president of the united states. the vice president cannot give
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him authority, nancy pelosi cannot, no one else. the question will become, why did you order the guard out at that point? he did not have the authority, technically according to the executive order. >> that's really interesting, also the timeline is interesting and just wolf we sat because at 2 pm, the capital goes on lockdown, that's the first breach of the building. at 4:45 pm, that's when the lawmakers, i believe pelosi and schumer are on the phone with miller and begging for the national guard to restore order, and he says they will. it's not until 5:40 when the first national guard arrive. it's three hours and 40 minutes, didn't have to take that long? >> i think under those circumstances, in is action. the fact that he had an obligation to defend the constitution and the country when the capital was under attack, for him to be knowingly watching this unfold on television and not taken action
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for two and a half hours, that is dereliction of duty. but to me, it's almost as if silence is complicity and in this case, inaction is action on the part that he deliberately ignored what was going on and wanted to succeed. so i think this is as close as you can get to criminal activity, seditious activity, and you ought to be charged accordingly. >> let's talk about what is happening next week, and that is when the new congress starts. as you know, we are kevin mccarthy is very interested and the speakership, and you have an interesting suggestion that you don't think that the house speaker needs to come from inside the house, so what does that mean? >> well, exactly, ellen fry, a friend of mine and a real scholar, who i have known for over 30 to 35 years, contacted me and ran an idea about me. i set, let's do something together. we looked at the constitution,
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obviously. the constitution does not say that the speaker of the house has to be elected, it does not have to come from the membership, so we know under the circumstances, mccarthy, who desires to become speaker, is prepared to cut as many deals as he has to do to get the numbers. there are at least a dozen or more members of congress who indicated they don't want to support him, so then the question becomes, what does he have to do to get the votes? santa's coming in will be one example, but he needs to pledge some sort of an agenda to the more extremists parts of the congress. if any part of the middle action -- wants congress to work. they want to get away from the fringes, want to have some kind of bipartisan support on key issues. they will obviously differ on multiple levels and issues but not the key issues dealing with our security, our economy, our energy, so i think the answer
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will be appoint someone, recommended by the democrats because this is something that democrats could go to the republicans and say, look, we want to work with you. we're prepared to recommend and support a republican who could reach across the aisle for the next two years, because everything will change in two years. for the next two years, can't we work together to get some things done before the 2024 elections come. that is the purpose of it to say, can't we find a way? yes, we could nominate someone that the democrats can support, and five republicans by secret ballot could also support, and you have a speaker. >> everyone can read your scenario that you laid out, somewhat utopian i think. i am owes optimistic in the near times, thanks so much, secretary, great to talk to you tonight. >> alison, thank you for having me on, i appreciate it. >> listen to this, the congressman elect caught fabricating's resume has yet
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for over 100 years, the aclu has fought for everyone to have a voice and equal justice. and we will never stop because we the people, means all of us. so please call or go online to myaclu.org to become a guardian of liberty today. melanie zanona joins us. nani, what now? >> yeah, this latest claim coming under scrutiny from santos is that his mother died and it had something to do with 9/11, so this all came to light when a pair of conflicting
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tweets resurfaced, and santa's last year was responding to a tweet that said 9/11 was a victim crime. he responded by saying 9/11 claimed my mother's life. i am blocking you so i don't ever had to read this again. but just five months later, santos said, december 23rd this year marks five years since i lost my best friend and mentor. mom, you will live forever in my heart. so definitely some discrepancies here. of course, there are some first responders who develop health conditions and cancer after 9/11. we reached out to scientists clarify what role if any 9/11 played in his mother's death, but we have yet to hear back. >> yeah, there's also i don't think any evidence that is mother worked in the twin towers, much less that it caused her cancer. but in any event, his campaign website also made mention of. this >> santos has said repeatedly that his mother worked in the world trade center on 9/11, including, as you mentioned, on his campaign website. that reads, georgia's mother was in his office in the south tower in september 11th, 2001, when the horrific events of
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that day unfolded. she survived the tragic events on september 11th but passed away years later when she lost her battle to cancer, so santos has previously claimed that his mother w financial executive, but notably, that claim has disappeared from his campaign website. it is no longer out there, so it remains unclear whether santa's mother actually worked at the trends that they're on 9/11. >> so what's the latest on all of the legal side of this. there were new investigations announced yesterday, what is happening with them? >> there are multiple investigations but on the federal and local level. these are still in the early stages but we do know that they are looking into his finances and weather potentially any financial crimes were committed. aside from all the lies we have been talking about his college experience and work experience, there are still a lot of questions about where his income has come from, whether he fought proper protocols when it comes to his financial disclosure forms, loans he made to his own campaign, so really a host of questions, and the nassau district attorney office
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set in a statement that the string of fabrications and false statements is, quote, nothing short of stunning. really, the legal scrutiny heating up percent. alison? >> thank you for all that reporting. let's bring in -- row match and former senator doug jones and cofounder and ceo of all in together. lauren, let me start with you, because when you start lying about atrocities like the holocaust and like 9/11, that's in a different category than patting your resume, and when you're lying about your own mother's death, this is different than somebody who is trying to just sort of make himself appear more qualified than he was. >> it's not even in the ballpark of somebody embossing to resume. there is literally nothing that we have been able to find over the last three days in his entire life story or background that needed to be correct, credible or basically truthful. some of this was known to new
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york democrats in advance of the election, there is a lot of blame i think to go around, when we start taking stock of how this guy got elected, because some of it is so unbelievably outrageous. his financial issues are also one part of the picture. it's not just that we have lots of questions about how he lent his own campaign apparently 6 to $700, 000, which is a violation of campaign finance law, there are questions about where that money came from and how it was possible that he was evicted from his home just a year before owing $10,000 in back rent on an apartment apparently $2500. literally, there is nothing about a story that makes sense or is credible in anyway. we have to assume at this point everything he said publicly must be false. >> it sure seems like it.
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romesh, why is it on a larger issue that republicans are willing to settle for such deeply flawed candidates. some of the candidates are laughable. some are so deeply flawed like george santos. between herschel walker, doug mastriano, this guy george santos, they can't find any republicans that are more serious minded and sane and rationally qualified? >> i think that there are some big underlying issues that you raise but santos is a very special case in that, in a sense, he's a failure on the part of both parties because neither party discovered all of this insanity on his part, all of this pathological lying until after he had been elected. if i am a democratic campaign strategists, i am rethinking some of the money i spent on opposition research, not having uncovered this. and you have to assume, i think, that had all this come delay earlier, that santa's would not have won the republican primary, let alone the general election.
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this is a guy, you can't even trust him if he swears on his mother's grave, right? he will say anything for the most fleeting and momentary of advantages. >> alison, i got to say that they did have this research. this is what makes this so interesting. i agree that this is now political malpractice on the part of new york democrats. i am very involved in your politics and know a lot of the players. what i was told is that actually his campaign advisers, meaning zimmerman, did have some information. it was in a briefing that came from the dmz. one of the issues is that, a, they claimed they could not get long island media to cover it. but i think the bigger issue is that they believe his association with the january 6th riots, he claimed that he
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was at the stop the steal rally on the six, and that he financed and covered the legal bills of some of the protesters, rioters charged with crimes. none of those things are true. the democrats on long island that were supporting zimmerman believed that enough was disqualifying enough, and they focus on that in their campaign and ignored all of this other stuff. that they actually did know about his background. they apparently did not check on his degrees, but they knew that his financial dealings were shady. there are questions about his work experience, so this has exposed a huge problem in new york state democratic politics. this is not the only race that one, this is the worst of it, but democrats suffered huge losses across new york, and across long island. there are a lot of questions to be asked among democrats here too. >> that's really interesting insight and helpful. also, i just want to say that there was a local newspaper that was reporting on him, and it was highlighting it. shout out to local newspapers
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and why we need them so desperately, but you're right, the january 6th got a lot more attention than all the other crazy stuff. senator, pathological liar is an actual disorder in the december. there are many different theories about what causes it, but either way, i don't think you want your u.s. representative to suffer from it, and i know that kevin mccarthy needs him to become speaker, but then isn't he just a huge liability? after he gets the vote, it becomes do you want this guy hanging out in the house of representatives? >> well, not only will he hang out, he will be an object of the media. the media will fall him every time they get the chance, and by the way, just as lauren said, the new york democrats, nothing is disqualifying enough in today's political world, no one issue is disqualifying enough. if you got a lot, go for it, because you never can tell in tribalism that we got in voters
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these days, that people will overlook so much and still vote for folks. but kevin mccarthy has got a problem not just with this job, he's got a major problem from george santos. i think it's incumbent upon republicans to speak out more than they're doing right now. it seems to me that they really need to call for his resignation. five years ago, five years ago this year, iran against a guy named -- republicans, when all the issues came out about roy moore, there were republicans saying i am not sure we will receive him, i am not sure he shall be reelected. senator shelby said i will not vote for him. i will write in a good republican. those days are over, alison. we don't see that in the parties, especially with the republican party, where things are right now. they need the vote, they need the gavel, and mccarthy is in a tough spot right now, because you lose that seat, i believe, if there is another election.
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>> i can't believe that was only five years ago. did you say that was only five years ago? it feels like a lifetime ago. i remember reporting on that so much, virtually every day, and you are right, there was a feeling that this can't stand, and now something has changed. we have come light years away from that. again, to my question, do you agree that for republicans, there's nothing disqualifying, that he's lying to voters at this point? >> well, i think republican voters, there is a significant number of them for whom these sorts of issues can be disqualified. that is a reason why, for example, mastriano did not get as many votes as oz in pennsylvania. it's a reason why a lot of these republicans who did disappointedly did not win, even while other republicans were doing well, because voters distinguished between republicans who were reality based and republicans who are pretending that donald trump
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won the 2020 election, so i take the senator's point about polarization having increased, but i don't think that we're quite as far gone as that. i think actually voters were pretty sensible in a lot of respects and are making some decisions. the problem here was, notwithstanding some local media, i just think most voters were not aware of just how much deception there was and how abnormal it was. it's one thing to say, oh, a politician will stretch the truth, but of course, we're talking about something on a completely different level, and there was not much understanding that. >> there's a different solar system. france, thank you all very much, really great conversation. okay not to this, she's an emt who normally response to emergencies, but what happened when she had her own emergency and got stuck during buffalo's deadly blizzard? our next guest will tell us her story.
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guardian of liberty for just $19 a month. for over 100 years, the aclu has fought for everyone to have a voice and equal justice. and we will never stop because we the people, means all of us. so please call or go online to myaclu.org to become a guardian of liberty today. >> buffalo is still trying to dig out from the deadly blizzard. the police commissioner says the search for body goes on, and he calls it grueling and gruesome task. at least 39 people have died in erie county alone. our next guest was trying to save people. carrie jia nada's and advanced empty, but she too got trapped
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in a blizzard. carrie, thank you so much for being here. your story is incredible. you as i understand it got an emergency call on friday for the pm that is stranded motorists is having trouble breathing, you swung into action, but you could not make it there. what happened? >> hi, thank you so much for having me. yeah, the day started off somewhat fun. we were in buffalo, used to snow, we'd like it, a lot of the time, at least i do. the visibility was rough for the first couple of calls, and we were able to get through those okay. for the last call, we made it to the lower east side of buffalo and it was coming down so hard and so heavy, that we did end up getting stuck. we were stuck for about four hours. >> what was that like, carrie? just explained that you are in, what, an ambulance? what vehicle were you in and how did you get stuck?
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>> we were in a ford transit ambulance. we got stuck pulling over to check out a man that was supposed to be in the car that we are going to rescue or get and check up on. we did get stuck pulling over, and there was no getting out. it was so fast and heavy the snow, it weighed down the truck, and we were spinning tires. >> oh my gosh, you are stuck in basically a huge snowbank. i think we are seeing pictures. no, we're seeing pictures of when you were rescued. you are stuck for four plus hours, and what was that like, carrie? did you have heat? did you have food, water? >> yes, luckily we do come prepared, at least my partner and i. we had food, water, heat and gas. our dispatchers and our supervisors made sure that we had gas for the day, that we had time to do that, it was scary. the truck was getting cold from the inside out. the windows are frozen, we had
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no visibility, we could not see at. my partner and i do consider ourselves lucky. we were only in the truck for four hours. we do have other crews that were stuck in the checks for upwards of 16, 20 hours. they did have heat, some did not have food, some did not have water. our supervisors were trying to get to them, the national guard was trying to get to them, buffalo fire trying to get to them, and they were just stuck. >> that's really scary. i can imagine it must have crossed your mind that help was not gonna get to you. >> it did, i am not going to lie about that but we tried to stay calm. that is what we are here for. to be honest, what was breaking my heart specifically was knowing that the community that we serve that we were not able to get to them. we continue to hear calls on a
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radio about sick people people weaker about, why we do what we do. in turn, our community has come forth and helped us so much to do the things that we could not do at this day. there's been such an outrage from our community that is so heartwarming and has really risen us from the ashes once again, because buffalo has seen tragedy before and in terms of the top shooting that happened this year, that was tough in our community. but we can't say enough. >> carrie, i think it is wonderful how much humanity we are seeing and neighbors helping neighbors. i think your story is so valuable because there are so many stories about motorists were trapped from calling 9-1-1
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and did not understand why health was not coming. the police and dispatcher say help is on the way, be patient, and then help could not get there. of course, it's confusing, frustrating and scary for the passengers, but you are living proof that you are trying to get there. emts are trying to get there but the snow was overpowering and overwhelming. ultimately, you are saved by the fire department? >> we were. luckily, they were passing us. the truck started getting stuck. even the fire trucks were getting stuck shortly after we got stuck. they happened to be passing by, and we turned and looked, and they were honestly like our angels at the time because we did not expect anyone to come. we were really planning on hunkering down there for quite a while. i am really glad that myself, my partner and none of our crews that everyone made it out okay. i think it's heavy on our hearts right now just knowing
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that we could not do much. they suspended ems shortly after we got stuck. >> carrie, we've heard of so many people being rescued, and you two are an angel. i really appreciate your sentiment, and i appreciate you saying your story with us. we don't understand how that it was at the height of the storm. so thank you so much for being with us. >> we appreciate it, thank you so much, and again, our community, thank you so much, we could not done it without you guys. >> that is beautiful. okay, we will check back with buffalo over the next many days. next, he is perhaps the most famous athlete in the world. we will remember polite after this.
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>> tonight the world is remembering one of the brilliant artists of all-time. he had been hospitalized for the last month with
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complications, and was 82 years old. players and friends at a french league match honored him with a standing ovation and tributes are pouring in. pelé electrified crowds playing in 4 world cups and the only soccer star in history to win 3. his first world cup is at the age of 17. in 1958, when he joined santos football club at 15 and went on to score more than 1200 goals in his professional career. pelé was a literal national treasure. when european club start to sign him, brazil declared him a treasure to keep him from playing elsewhere, and he knew he had a great gift. >> i feel very comfortable because something i cannot answer was why god gave me this gift. this was a gift from god. >> pelé's funeral will be held on tuesday.
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for more on his legacy, let's bring in chris whittingham, a sucker podcaster and commentator. chris, thank you for being here. why was he the greatest soccer player? what was it that made him so great? >> i think if you read so much of what has been said about him in the last few hours, there is this use of language that you just don't hear about from other players. i heard one quote, there is one player who is the best player, i refuse to classify pelé as a player. he sort of transcends what had come before him, and the brazilians have this term called joe go benito, played beautifully. it really began with him. he was caught able to conjure away planned a game that was not seen before and you have to remember that at this time soccer was not really a sport that was televised worldwide. so every 4 years, a lot of the world gathered to see what was going on in other countries, and we have seen the yellow and blue are the brazil kid, it just stuck out how incredible this player was. again, he announced his arrival in the 1958 or cup final.
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if you watch the goals they scored, they stand the test of time. they look like goals that would be scored now, better than some goal scored now. it's remarkable. normally, when you see black and white footage, it doesn't hold up, for this player, it does. >> he was a household name, you did not have to be a soccer fan or fall sports to know pele but i am fascinated about what you're describing about his ineffable quality. was it fancy footwork, sheer athleticism, why was he so different than everyone else? >> soccer is not really a game defined by athleticism as such. it's defined by skill, the ability to control every part of the body that is not the arm, right? so incredible skill with his feet, incredible skill controlling with his chest, head, his ties, any means of controlling the soccer ball, he
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was well capable of doing so, so you see this player that transcended. that goal i mentioned in the 1958 world cup final, he controls it off his chest, loops it over the defender, and you see all the defenders go, what just happened? what is going on here? that was the quality that he played with, and like you showed in that package now, he was aware of it. most importantly, opponents were aware of it. if you look at his history in the 1966 world cup in england, he was basically kicked out of the tournament, not kicked up because of a ban because opposition were intent on kicking him because they did not allow him to play the beautiful game. he almost are and 2 quick ahead of the 1970 or cup which won because of how violently he had been treated by opponents. everyone was aware of this unstoppable school. >> so what does that mean for brazil and the rest of the world? >> yeah, i think when you talk about brazil, it's an interesting legacy. this very nearly happened, reports came out that he was in
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failing health before the world cup campaign started, and it became clear that the world cup was about playing for pay like considering his incredible legacy there, but this is one of the greatest figures in the history of the sport. as the globe's biggest sport, it means he's won at the biggest figures in all of the world, even here in the u.s.. he is a figure that transcends because of his time with the near cosmos and then with american soccer league in the mid 70s, and it was funny. i was writing about when he was sold on coming here, it was like, don't get championships, get a country. you can have the entire united states behind you if you succeed here. for a time, he did, and he's one of these one word names that means so much. i will close by saying, andy warhol, the famous painter who painted him said that normally, i talk about 15 minutes of fame, he will have 15 centuries of fame, and that he very much did and very much will. >> that is awesome. chris whittingham, thank you so much for bringing that great perspective.
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>> the january six committee
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releasing more than 100 interview transcripts. but trying to get as many as possible before tuesday when republicans take over in the house. every day brings new revelations, so what will the department of justice do with it all. let's talk about what we have learned with former congressman charlie dent, also cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, molly john fast and former federal prosecutor sham wu. great to see you all, let's look at a couple other things that have been revealed today by the committee and one i think particularly interesting one is don junior, and the text that don junior responding to mark meadows. i want to juxtapose what he sent the day after the election and after his father lost the election, and then what he sent on january six because i think there is an arc between these two. the first one that he sends that he claims is not his writing, and it does not sound like his voice, frankly, and

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