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good morning, everyone. i'm jessica dean in washington. jim sciutto is off today. any moment now house democrats set to release former president donald trump's tax returns after a four-year legal battle. we expect to learn more wiabout his wealth, his charitable donations and the house said the irs failed to properly lay audit his tax returns. they detailed six years of returns showing trump claimed tens of millions in annual losses that significantly reduced his tax liability. lauren fox is on capitol hill. we expect the returns any moment now.
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break down how this is expected to play out. >> reporter: jessica, any minute we do see the returns. on the house floor they are in a pro forma session. this is what happens. they usually quickly gavel in and they gavel out, but part of what is happening is entered into the congressional record will be this tax information of former president donald trump. it will be between 2015 and 2020. it will include the business entity as will as any audit miles related to donald trump's taxes. so a treasure trove of information expected to be released at any moment, jessica. >> lauren, stay with us. let's talk about the political
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angle of all of this. what are the political implications for what's being released. >> first and foremost, donald trump as lauren just said has fought very hard to keep these hidden. just as a matter of transparency, that's important. there's probably a reason for it. the with trump sometimes i don't think that we can assume that it's something nefarious. it could just be simply because he didn't want, you know, the political hit that would come from it being revealed that he didn't pay anything in taxes as we actually already know that he didn't for some of these years. so i think that could be part of it, but we'll see what's in there. the other part is that trump is now a candidate yet again and so this has been the practice for presidential candidates for decades, revealing their tax returns, and now he just becomes like one of the other candidates over the years who's done so. and the american people can take that information, see what it says about him, about whether he donates to charity given his
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extravagant wealth, whether he pays any taxes, whether he's donnie questionable financial maneuvers in order to pay fewer taxes and factor that in now that he is officially running again. >> the question is, will that matter? will people take that information? some might. others may not. >> when i think about this, when trump was a candidate back in 2016, i think he tried to run a very unconventional campaign. actually, since then trump has done a lot of things that, to your point, the base, his base has not really cared very much about. and so it is i think very much an open question whether or not this will affect him when it comes to republicans, but i think that for the broader american public, they are weighing all of this as they evaluate all of their candidates
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and they're weighing it as a broader picture of trump not just as a former entertainer, someone who's been in office and done a lot of things. i think it will have an impact as they weigh the entirety of trump as a candidate. >> big picture. >> big picture. >> let's go back to lauren fox. you have the returns now. tell us more. >> yes. we are just getting this information. it came in the form of a press release from the house ways and means committee. it will take time to download the large file and go through the information, jessica. this is such a significant moment. i want to point out we are mere days away from house republicans taking control of this chamber that is just a few steps away from us. it is also a moment that comes after richard neil, the chairman of this committee, said back in 2018 he was going to request these returns. in april of 2019 he did so and then he followed up with subpoenas and there was a lengthy court battle. it was never assumed this information was going to come into the public domain, jessica.
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what we are seeing now is after that vote of the committee last week, it is now public because democrats voted to make it public. obviously a very important moment for politics, important moment just as republicans are going to have control of the house chamber and what they do with this power moving forward. >> absolutely. something that's been some four years in the making and, again, the top line here is that those tax returns have officially been released. abby, in terms of the timing of all of this, as lauren just eluded to, we're mere days away from republicans taking over the house. do you think the timing is -- what do you make of it? does it matter at all in the sense democrats are about to give up their power? >> i think democrats had to do this now for obvious reasons. they no longer had the committee power they once had. i think there is a certain degree of emptiness to some of these threats that this could be a ball rolling down a hill for democrats. again, other candidates, republican and democrats, have
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revealed their tax returns. trump is the only one who hasn't. it's not much of a threat to say to joe biden, reveal your tax returns. he's already released them. so i think that's part of the challenge here. sure, could republicans take it further and do other things? that is a possibility. the reality is is that trump is very unusual in his desire to trail this in secrecy. it will stand on its own merits. it tells us something about a former president who is so unusual in a lot of ways, including that he was -- is a business owner, has a lot of wealth and we know very little about what that has entailed. >> let's go back out to lauren. the chairman richard neil has released a statement.
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what does it say? >> reporter: neil is trying to preempt any arguments that this was too quick moving, that this was part of a political ploy to release and embarrass the former president and that this could be a slippery slope for taxpayers moving forward, that everyone should be afraid about their tax information being released to the public. i want to read what richard neil says preempting that. he said a president is no ordinary taxpayer. they hold power and influence unlike any other american and with great power comes even greater responsibility. like abby was saying earlier, some of the things we might be able to look at in these tax returns are what kind of charitable donations the former president made as well as any foreign entanglements he might have had. that is why part of the precedent of releasing the tax returns on the campaign trail is so important, because voters get to make a decision. when they have all the information they can look at everything and make a decision about whether that person is someone they want to support.
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that never happened with donald trump and there's no law that says you have to release your tax returns, but it is an important distinction as to why democrats felt they needed to move forward. >> lauren fox on the hill. abby phillip hear. thanks so much to both of you. stay with us for more of what to expect on the tax documents. we'll turn to former irs commissioner mark everson. we're just getting the tax returns. we know there was supposed to be a mandatory annual audit program for presidents. it appears it wasn't carried out for president trump for three or four years. why do you think it didn't happen in this case? >> i would say -- let me first say, jess ska, i agree that it's good practice for these returns to be disclosed, but i don't believe it should have been by the congress here. the president -- candidate
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trump, president trump tried to retain them. i also agree the congress needs to reform and compel the exposure of the returns. what's happened here is the chairman said we want to look at the returns because we want to look at the presidential audit process. well, he's done that. they've made recommendations and, frankly, gotten at some real problems as you're indicating. that's different from saying all the blood and guts of the returns need to be disclosed. as to the audits themselves, i don't know what happened here and i'm very concerned that nobody stepped in. the commissioner didn't say, look, whatever we do, we have to play it right down the middle and follow the law to the t and make sure we're doing this correctly because clearly the committee's investigation, the -- there's something called a joint tax committee, which they looked at this. nobody is satisfied with what's
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done here. i think the irs has some explaining to do. >> right. that is the big question, kind of what happened here and why that wasn't followed. . do you believe -- you kind of eluded to this, but i'd like to drill down on it. do you think the audit or the release of taxes should be codified into law for future presidents and should there be some sort of -- >> yeah, exactly. i think it's good public practice to say the candidates for that office and vice presidency should disclose their taxes. trump said he wasn't going to do it. he didn't do it. he ran out the clock. then what happened here the democrats came in, they had the white house, they had the senate and the house, they didn't put forth legislation compelling future candidates to disclose their returns, instead they pursued this through an investigation. what happens here is this is a further sort of escalation of political wars via the tax
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system. that's not helpful to tax compliance at a time when the democrats have put through an $80 billion controversial program to give the irs more resources. this only sort of further inflames things. i don't think it's helpful to what they're trying to do. >> we were just looking a the the numbers of what former president trump paid and i think for somebody to look at home to look at the wild swing and what he paid in taxes, if we can bring that back up here for a second. can you as the former irs commissioner explain kind of in layman's terms how someone can claim so many losses and deductions and how it can swing from $0 to $1.1 million a year and if that's normal? >> sure. look, there are no surprises here. everybody has known about donald trump, that he had some big wins and some big misses as well with casinos and other things. "the new york times" did stories
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about big losses. it doesn't mean something is untoward here. what happened is the congress is looking at it, the irs should have been looking a the it. they've had trump's businesses under audit for years. you have ups and downs and it's really quite complex. i would caution your viewers not to expect to have definitive answers based on six years of returns. a lot of it goes back to things that trump did years ago with the losses with the casinos. >> right. very complex. mark everson, thank you very much for your analysis. we appreciate it. have a great weekend. >> happy new year to you, jessica. >> happy new year. we'll continue to bring you any developments from frormer president trump's tax returns. there's news on the fight over who will be the next speaker of the house. republican kevin mccarthy
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melanie zanona has the details. >> the big debate here is over the tool known as the motion to va vacate. currently the majority of them want to use that rule. they want to change it so any single member can force the floor vote. up until this point mccarthy has not been willing to budge on that issue. i am told in private conversations this week he has made an offer to critics he is willing to make a look at a lower threshold. potentially a really big concession for mccarthy here, there is a critical conference call that mccarthy has brought from the different wings in the party. that concession, that will come up. mccarthy is going to find a sweet spot that will essentially appease enough critics to allow them to vote for him without
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alienating the moderate in the party. but, january 3rd is fast approaching. members are here right now so that makes it more difficult for mccarthy to round up the votes. it is very possible that we could see this thing go to multiple ballots for the first time in a while. >> it will be something to see. interesting the number is five that he would lower it to potentially. the same number of hard liners who say they will not vote for kevin mccarthy. we will see what happens on january 3rd. meantime, new details this morning from the january 6th committee transcripts with a very revealing transcript from senator lindsey graham and mark meadows. this conversation was relayed to the committee from one of trump's lawyers. it's very revealing. tell us what it entails. >> right. this is showing the willingness to perpetuate the myth of
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widespread election fraud after the elections. this came from christina baa. she was a lawyer for trump. she witnessed a meeting in the west wing where mark meadows was there, senator lindsey graham was there. she says senator graham was saying just give me five dead voters. give me a very small snapshot that i can take and champion. the small hint, graham wanting to make a big deal about it to try and advance what donald trump wanted, which was trying to convince the american public that the election was stolen. there wasn't enough even for graham though to do anything with this. the campaign ultimately did send him a memo about this and he did nothing with it. >> wasn't the small nugget he was looking for. >> we also know donald trump jr.'s interview. walk us through it. i'll let you do it. there's a lot here. >> there is a lot.
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there's a lot of three different phrases. i don't recall, i don't remember, i don't know. donald trump jr., this is a short interview compared to some of the others. it's about 100 pages of transcript. he left very little on. he's asked about lots of different things. i made a list about all of the things he didn't remember anything about. he didn't remember anyone trying to convince trump from declaring victory on election night. he didn't remember telling people he lost after the election. he didn't remember whether there was any fact checks of fraud or the claims trump was making after the election and he also didn't remember that there was any concern for the allegations that they might not be true. he didn't remember anything about a rally organization. he spoke at the ellipse rally, was paid several thousand dollars. there's a lot of him not sharing much, although he was given text messages that he had sent, including one to mark meadows, where he forwarded a message about using fake electors, state legislators to block the
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elections. when he was asked about why he did that just days after the election he said the idea sounded plausible and sounded pretty sophisticated. he wanted people to look into it. >> he didn't remember so many other things. caitlyn, we need you to run through it. the we appreciate the reporting. president biden has signed the $1.7 trillion spending bill into law while vacationing in saint croix. it has $858 billion in defense spending and roughly $45 billion in emergency assistance to ukraine and nato allies. still ahead, could the chinese president soon be headed to moscow. more on vladimir putin's invitation and what more military cooperation between russia and china into ukraine. that's next. gain. ♪ ♪ we'll build freelance teams with more agagility. ♪
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that and the paycheck. during a virtual meeting with president xi, it comes as ukrainian officials have heavy losses in the east. the russian death toll is higher. joining us now is cnn military analyst and former nato ally commander, general wesley clark. walk us through the strategic importance of where the fighting is happening now.
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it's not decisive. this is a stalemated fight. they're preparing defenses. they don't have the combat power to go on the offense against ukrainian forces. and putin is desperately seeking a cease fire in place. and the visit to china, trying to bring chinese pressure to bear. trying to split up the united states from the european ally. let's just stop it here. we've seen this pattern before. so i think -- yeah .
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and it seems like this was really meant to terrorize people in ukraine. is that the purpose of an attack like this. >> well, yes. i mean, it does have that value to the russians. they think they can intimidate and basically frighten the ukrainians of the surrender but it also disrupts industrial production. it distracts the leadership of the government and it's depressing to the west to see that we don't have the air defense to really help ukraine. there's not enough air defense assets unless we gave up everything else we have to
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really put a shield over ukraine. it's part of the larger conflict. really, jessica, the key thing here in the coming months is going to be can the west break through russia's protection of its information space internally. in other words, can we get to the truth to the people in russia. will they see that this was a war started by putin for no reason and it's brutal, ruthless, inhumane. we've got to get through and convince the russian people to stop this. the. >> how do you do that. >> we've got to do it publicly. we need to enlist other nations in that. the that is reinforcing the west
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and it will seep into russia. there are clandestine means to get inside of russia. but we're going against a really tough set of information parameters. this is a tough challenge. the war crimes tribunal and going after the information space inside russia, that's the best way we can win right now. while we give ukraine more military means to advance its offensive in the coming weeks. >> before i let you go, i also want to get the thoughts on the further cooperation between putin and xi. the greater context as well.
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we can see the role in the world and how they're diminished. they like to have military technology. putin would like to have military support but xi's in a difficult position. he doesn't want to bring about sanctions in his own country. he doesn't want a triumphant china. putin knows china is the biggest threat to russia and xi knows that in the long term interests of all sides, russia took asian territory and eventually china will want that back. there are strains in this relationship and limitations. certainly neither china nor india who are potentially friends of russia want to see
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this conflict escalate. >> general wesley clark, thanks so much for your expertise and analysis. have a great year. >> thank you, jessica. same to you. as a flood of migrants continues across the southern border, officials say they're worried about the threat to public health and safety. >> with so many respiratory viruses, they fear people sleeping on the streets could make that situation worse. the number of people coming across the border is only increasing. cnn correspondent rosa flores is joining us live from el paso. what are you learning about how many people are still crossing? what are you still seeing? >> you know, the federal government hasn't issued an updated number of encounters of migrants on the border here in el paso which has been the epicenter. from looking at the migrant dashboard the city of el paso has been updating every day, the
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trend does look like those numbers are decreasing. that's not to say they will increase again. let me show you around. as you mentioned, jessica, the city is very concerned about public safety and public health. take a look around me. it is just miserable here. it rained overnight. it's 44 degrees. you can see that hundreds of migrants are still living out here on the street so not only were they cold overnight, they were also rained on. and from talking to a lot of the migrant families over the last few days, one of the biggest concerns for mothers that were living in these practically outside camp, outside this church was to keep their children warm. well now that's nearly impossible because not only are their kids cold, they're also wet. now you can see some of the migrants were able to get access to tents so that helped some of
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them. as you can see, a lot of them are still sleeping out on the streets covered only with blankets. now the city of el paso has been doing cleanups every single day, two to three times a day to try to help with the sanitation issue but of course outside on the street there is no running water. the city did bring port-o-potties on the other side of the street. that has helped. they've added washing stations as well. they can have water to wash their hands, brush their teeth. here's the other thing, jessica. the city says they're also worried about rsv, covid, the flu and on top of all of that, there are ticks in this area so they're very concerned about that as well. >> oh, yeah. they can carry lyme disease and other things. all right. rosa flores for us in el paso, texas, thanks so much. up next, southwest airlines back to a full schedule but passengers are skittish about
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southwest airlines says they're back on track. only 41 cancellations today capping a disastrous week that left tens of thousands of people stranded and outraged. adrian broaddus has been camped out at midway. it looks much more normal behind you today. what are you hearing from passengers? >> things are getting better and we have met passengers who are
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relieved, jessica, followed by so many days of stress. for the first time they're seeing flight information boards that look like this one showing departing flights leaving on time or boarding. no cancellations on this message board. now southwest 1053 was scheduled to leave at 12:45 p.m. but will take off at 1:46. an hour later. stark comparison compared to what we've seen over the last week. more than 15,000 flights canceled and long lines. but there has been some trepidation. for example, i met a woman who was on her way to memphis to ring in the new year with her family, but when it came time for her to drop her bags here, she was terrified. why don't you want to check you lost. >> reporter: you scared? >> hell
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just the point all the bags they lost. they lost a thousand some bags. now they want to still give them my bags. is that crazy or what? i'm trying to go have some fun new year's eve. i ain't going to let them spoil my day. >> and so many travel plans as we all know have been spoiled. there were members here to help her. they calmed her fears. i did ask her if she had any medication or anything in her back after what we've seen this week. she said, yes, but she took her medicine this morning. i kind of told her, hey, just in case, not saying your bags or your luggage won't end up in memphis, you might want to pull that medication out of your bag. travelers have told us that is a lesson they've learned, never to pack their medicine in their checked bags. jessica? >> yes, that is a very good lesson. i'm glad you mentioned that to her. hopefully she's in memphis. thanks so much.
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overnight south korea and spain joined the growing list of countries adding testing requirements or restrictions. the u.s. and italy also among them. despite italy's pleas, the larger european union not getting on board. the european cdc is calling new restrictions unjustified and said the surge in china's covid cases is not going to have a significant impact on europe. back here in the u.s. there is renewed concerns about the omicron subvariants developing globally and taking route in the u.s. elizabeth cohen is joining us now with details. elizabeth, it was about a year ago we were all saying omicron, that was the new variant. how concerned are experts about new variants this year potentially developing in china? >> reporter: so jessica, here's what the concern is. in china you have a population that was to a large extent protected from natural infection. they were vaccinated with a vaccine that has efficacy
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issues. all of a sudden those restrictions got lifted and people don't need to be in quarantine. that's a great opportunity for the virus to mutate because it gets to infect lots and lots of people. the more people it infects, the more chance it has to sort of change things up and turn into a new variant. does it mean it's going to turn into a horrible variant? absolutely not. that is why you do surveillance. various countries around the world, they take samples from people's noses. is the this a new variant or something we've already seen? countries take samples from people 's noses and they post i online and everybody gets to see them. let's take a look at how many gets posted. the more the better. the more you know the better. in the u.s. in the past few months folks have posted more than 576,000 sequences, you can think of them as noses really. in the u.k. 123,000.
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china, they've posted 412 in the past six months. that means that or it seems to mean there are things happening in china that we don't know about. the that's the worry. the unknown, really, is the worry. jessica? >> absolutely. we know that the response from the u.s. and some much these other countries has been to implement these new testing requirements. is there any indication of how effective this is going to be? >> reporter: it is not fool proof. the hope here is at the very least with genomic testing that they will catch a new variant before it takes off. let's take a look at what the rules are. the rules are starting january 5th everyone flying into the u.s. from china has to get a test two days, no more than two days before departure. and that test can be a pcr, antigen test and then at seven
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airports in the u.s. people can voluntarily when they arrive from anywhere say, hey, i want to get tested and you can do genomic sequencing. the hope is that will happen and we'll learn what's coming in. jess jessica? >> elizabeth cohen. tomorrow night new year's eve in times square will return to full capacity since 2020. crowds will be once again allowed without spacing. preparations already fully underway. later today the new york police department will brief on security mesh a urs for that event. cnn national correspondent is live in times square. it's interesting to see this happening and not in some years seeing it at all. what's it going to look like this year? >> reporter: that's right, jessica. the biggest party of the year in
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the best place on earth. here in new york city on times square. it is going to be significantly bigger this year because it had been scaled down the past two years as a result of covid. this is the first year there will not be any restrictions or requirements for people attending the event. there are no restrictions for outdoor events here in new york city anymore so this is going to be a full blown, full scale party once again like in many years prior. thousands of people will be standing right here where i am now shoulder to shoulder. even now times square is already a crowded place. you can see that people are walking around trying to get a sense. tomorrow around this time people will likely be lining up, filling up this area here. all through the back, the blocks behind us and in front of us the ball will come down at midnight ringing the new year. as i said, one of the biggest parties of the year will be right here.
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security, you mentioned, will be tight. it is always a big operation for the new york police department as well as other law enforcement agencies here in the city. we will be hearing from mayor eric adams later this evening but if you are going to come out, don't bring a large backpack. don't bring an umbrella. don't bring chairs. you want do come with the bare minimum. dress warmly. you will have to stand out here for hours and it will be a safe and a fun event. and it is all about that energy and that crowd. jess? >> really fun to watch. glor can yeah pazmino, thank you so much. cnn live starts at 8 p.m. eastern. still ahead this morning though, the latest in the massive search for a missing 11-year-old girl in north carolina. why police suspect her parents are not telling them everything they know. we don't even need an
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last saw her november 23rd but did not report her missing until december 15th. they were arrest and being held without bond. for more let's go to carlos suarez. what else are people saying about this? >> reporter: well police are saying that the child's parents are clearly not telling investigators everything that they know. the two of them were arrested on december 17th for failing to report the child missing. at that point, the 11th-year-old hadn't been seen for weeks. she was shown getting out of her school bus if the neighborhood where they lived and according to investigators in that time they have received hundreds of tips about the possibility of -- the possibility that the child may have been seen. they've also searched the neighborhood where she lived as well as where that school bus dropped her off. but she hasn't been found just yet. here is also a little bit more
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on what police have said about the case. >> one of the challenges in this case simply put we were not know fied she was gone. a delay of three weeks. school officials had tried to contact her parents. finally on december 15th madalina's mother walked into school and said her daughter is missing. this is a serious case of a child whose parents are clearly not telling us everything they know. >> reporter: and so while police have been able to search that child's home, but it is unclear what, if anything, investigators may have found on the property. police really aren't giving a whole lot of details in large part because they're still trying to sort this one out. it is also up clear at this hour, jessica, just why the parents waited so long to contact police or where the school district didn't try to get into contact with law enforcement considering they have been trying to reach the family in the time the girl was last seen. >> some really big questions
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top of the hour here in washington, d.c. i'm jessica dean. good morning, everyone. jim sciutto is off today. new this morning, house democrats releasing six years worth of former president trump's tax returns, giving deeper insight into his personal financial situation. right now, cnn is sifting through the hundreds of documents that were just released in the last hour. but the former president is already responding. cnn national correspondent kristin holmes joins me now to break it all down. walk us through what we're learning from the tax returns, again th
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