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>> no person, having received the majority of the whole number of votes cast by surname, a speaker has not been elected. >> so, they voted again. >> no person having received the majority of the whole number of votes cast by surname, a speaker has not been elected. >> so, the third time was not the charm. and this lasted for almost five hours. we're talking about three consecutive ballots. and they could not elect a speaker of the house. and this was frankly a once in a century occurrence. this hasn't happened in the last 100 years, not to be able to finalize who was going to be your speaker in that first round, let alone after three rounds and there's still no conclusion. a tough day, everyone can say, for kevin mccarthy. after all of this time, his
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dream of being speaker was within his reach. and he believes it still is. but so far, it has succeeded his grasp. so, the question tonight is where are we now? so, there's still no speaker of the house. and they're going to do the whole thing tomorrow, beginning at noon. so here's where it all stands tonight. kevin mccarthy does not as we sit here today have the votes. does not have that magical number of 2:18, let alone the majority of those voting at present. but then again, he is not alone. because neither does anybody else. now there's no doubt that the horse race will be going on all night long, likely as we converse with one another right now. but it's not at all clear what could actually break the impasse. jim jordan, whose name was up there, even getting votes, he says he doesn't want it. >> but is there any chance you may be speaker of the house? >> no. no, i made it clear.
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i want to chair a committee. i mean, you guys know. i like this ability to cross examine witnesses and get the truth for the country. that's what i'm focused on. >> what needs to change between now and when the sense? >> -- >> but how do you do that? >> i don't know, if we're gonna work on it. >> congress when jordan is talking, but congressman steve scalise is not? >> congressman, what is mccarthy going to do tomorrow? is he going to drop out of the race? what's the next move for the gop? would you accept if you got the votes to become speaker? >> of course, they are asking because he's the number two. and the thoughts about what he or when he if the facts were given the opportunity to get those votes. and the democrats, they sure are not prepared to help them out and get out of the mess that has now been created. >> we're looking for a willing partner to solve problems for
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the american people, not say the republicans from their dysfunction. >> a willing partner. well, new tonight, the so-called never kevin camp is working the phones. they're trying to grow their opposition against kevin mccarthy. but you have a pro mccarthy gop lawmaker telling cnn that one of the so-called never kevin republicans just called them to try to get them to change their vote. this is a sign that both sides are now digging in and trying to win votes in their own direction. i want to bring in now congressman pete sessions, a texas republican, voted for mccarthy three times today. congressman, thank you for being here. it's been quite a day. i wonder what your initial reaction was. do you expect that mr. mccarthy would not get those votes as of tonight? >> laura, it was unclear until we really went to voting of how deep seated these 19 people are,
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how deep-seated they are in their resolve but, that i believe kevin not become speaker. our conference is faced with a real conundrum. we want to get on with our work. we believe we've earned this. we believe we have committees ready with work ahead of us. but we also know, and as a texan, i take very seriously and understand that the issues at our border, in our cities, on our streets, fentanyl, drugs, overwhelming people, new york city experiencing much of the same, many of the same problems that come from our border. we have a problem with inflation. and our conference is serious, as well as our voters about making sure that we have a person that is able to effectively take these challenges on. at a time when we don't have the senate nor the presidency.
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>> but who is that person, congressman? because at the moment, i understand the resolve and what the voters certainly want in every issue that you just pointed out certainly is top of mind for many, many people. but none of that can really start, right, until there is a speaker elected. so, who will that be? >> well, takes 218. that is the riddle. so, it means that 203 is not 218. so, the conversation took place, has been taking place for weeks, took place today as a family get together that we had in the capital that did not resolve that matter. and so, we went to the floor unresolved. and i think many people now see where both sides are dug in. the question is, at what point do we have adults that come forward and say we've got to figure this out? and i think that's what tonight and tomorrow are about. >> so, what's happening tonight? obviously, it adjourned around
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5:27 pm this evening. so, to the surprise of some. but it would just continue to go on. obviously in a tongue-in-cheek moment, hopeful speaker mccarthy, as he wants to be, thought that he could withstand it. and that people would essentially no longer dig in their heels. they came in unresolved, they could actually make it happen. but in reality, there is not resolution. there has been, i'm assuming, talks right now, up to tonight even as you and i are speaking, about how to get that magic number. what are the efforts being made right now to try to make that happen, even tomorrow? >> i think there is a clarification about what these 19 members are for. they vote for jim jordan. i get that. jim jordan says he doesn't want that. at some point, you have to change your focus to what do you want but, before we're able
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to get resolution. what we want, what they want, and what the conference wants's is to be able to resolve the matter with the person who is able to get the 218 votes and i don't think it's so hard. i think it's a matter of both sides coming to a realization of listening to each other. and i think that's when mr. mccarthy understands when he is in or out. and his supporters understand, like me, whether we're in or whether we're out. because we as a group want to address these problems for the american people. >> congressman, what would make you be out, so to speak? i mean, you've got the number 19 was the initial of the first in the second round. of course, it did go up, in the wrong direction if you are hopeful to be speaker, up to 20. and one would think that as the time goes on, there might be others who say, you know what, it's not going to happen, i'm not seeing the resolution, so i might want to jump ship as well. given that, are you concerned that this might be a trend in
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the direction away from getting to that number for mccarthy? >> i will tell you, there is hardball being played on both sides. there are conversations, there is pressure on people, there's outside pressure, my phone blows up, other phones, people are receiving the same calls. but we have to get to what are people after. what are these 19, what are they willing to accept? because otherwise, it will become ugly for us. and i think, i think there's resolution that can happen. now with that said, they have to be willing to say what that is. you just can't be against something. you have to be for something at some point. and i thought that that's what we would figure out with jim jordan. well, he doesn't want it. >> at some point, it seemed as though the negotiation becomes not in good faith, if you're unclear to what the other side necessarily wants. but we do have some sound in this evening. our own manu raju did speak to
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congressman kevin mccarthy. listen to what he had to say. >> do you need trump to come out and reiterate his support for you? >> trump, trump has already reiterated support. >> how is that conversation tonight? >> why did you decide to -- today when -- needed the votes and then adjourned tomorrow? >> i didn't think it was -- i don't think we were going to get any more productive by continuing on the day. we've gone through where we are. and i think the best way to deal with discussions with some other members -- and so, i think we made our point. we're sort of moving. on >> bottom line, are you backing out? >> no. you guys asked that same question a lot. i will let you know when it happens, okay? >> well of course, he will let us know if he's dropping out. he says he's not going to drop out of the race. he says it won't surprise you, i'm sure. but the point at the very beginning with about the former
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president, donald trump. and obviously once again, candidate, about whether he would reinstate or reinforce his endorsement. now, he has not withdrawn it by any stretch of the imagination. but does it concern you, given what he's saying? i mean, there is an endorsement from trump. but it didn't stop 20 republican members of congress from not voting in favor of them. what's your thought? >> well, and it won't stop these 20. these 20 are -- or the associated number, is firm. and what's going to happen is people on both sides are going to have to find a way but. what is an answer? what is a third rail? i don't know but. a way that we can move through this. and there are limitations on both sides. there are clear limitations on both sides. >> so, sitting here today, do you think there's a concession that mccarthy has left to give? i mean, he has given some. some would say that it would lead to, even if you were to win, sort of a pyrrhic victory where the concessions he's made
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would trump a victory. >> well, we were really given the viewpoint today that those negotiations have ended. and it was just a matter of how long where the 13 are 19 going to dig in. i think it's obvious to me that they're going to dig in. i think it's obvious to every person who was there that they grew the vote. they did not lose people on that vote. so, i think it's a matter of, we've got to figure out, we've got to know what are the 19 people four. >> well i tell you tonight, congressman, there is a letter that was written by congressman matt gaetz, dated today, right into the architect of the capital, the honorable jay brandton, saying i write in formulas that the speaker of the house office located in the u.s. capital building is currently occupied by representative kevin mccarthy. as of this morning, in the 117th congress adjourned, congressman d.e.i, and a
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speaker from the 118th congress has not been elected after three undecided votes, no member can lay claim to this office. what is the basis in law? house rule, or precedent, to allow someone who has placed second in three successive speaker elections to occupy the speaker of the house office? how long will he remain there before he is considered a squatter? please write back promptly, because it seems mr. mccarthy can no longer be considered a speaker designate following today's balloting. side, florida congressman matt gaetz. but talking about what it is that some of the 19 people who voted against him want. it seems tonight, it's get out of the office. what's your reaction? >> well, this is hardball. and both sides -- >> more of a squatter. they called him a squatter. >> well, that's hardball. both sides went, in their
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enunciation this morning and conference, played hardball. and then we saw it on the floor. i'm very hopeful that we are men and women of character who can find a way to work through this, hopefully tonight. if not, be ready for tomorrow. but i believe we're going to have to really find out from those 19. what are they willing to accept? who is their person, now that we had heard there was this other second person. jim jordan, and jim clearly wants to be chairman of the judiciary. who are they now going to put up? because that is the question. >> so, if it's, for example, steve scalise, if that's the person of instead of jim jordan. and i know earlier today, i believe is congressman that alluded to the idea they wanted a reluctant warrior, not someone campaigning for the job and has serious trust issues, shall we say, would mccarthy. but if it were to be steve scalise, is he the guy to get those votes?
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if not him, who? >> well, it's hard to say. once again, it's these 19. and there are more that are with that. they want a say. and i think, i think it is possible. do i think it's steve scalise? i don't know. but it's going to have to be somewhat. and we're gonna have to come up with that. it will not be, i do not see us moving past four more rounds. >> you don't think mccarthy will secure it? >> i'm telling you, these 19 people are dug in. >> will you keep voting in favor mccarthy? >> i think it's important for us to know where or what those 19 people are for. but yes, i will keep voting for kevin until a real candidate solution alternative comes forward. >> to have a person in mind? >> you, know it would be easy to say that there are not a lot of people. >> [laughter] >> because there are just not a lot of people that have the knowledge, the background, the history, the ability to know.
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it's a big job. so, let's see. but therefore, once again, the 19 control the fate of this entire matter. >> one last question on that point, what is that emotion that you have, given that 19 people are really steering the ship? i mean, republicans secured the majority, the voters said we want the gop in control of at least the house. it seems as though there is a bit of a hostage situation, so to speak. how does that feel in terms of going into presidential election cycle? you have concerns about the republican party being able to maintain its hold? >> well, the price is 24. you hit on that. there is room, i believe in time, for us to get it right. and that's where these 19 -- we need to be united with the entire conference. and that is how you win. you win when we're together. when i was chairman of the
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national republican congressional committee in 2010, when i was chairman of the house rules committee for six years, we got people together on the agenda because we believed that we could achieve it if we were together. if you have 19 people hanging out where they don't believe you can get there, and things do not work the way they want, they will procedurally vote against the party. so, it's better that we get it right now then just say, we won't worry about the 19, we will cast them aside but. they are important. each of these people are important to our party. and procedurally, to be together so that we pass what we need. so, it's better that we take time, measured three times, solvents, and i have not grown weary of that. but i think there is a important point, laura. >> we'll see with that and point is. thank you, congressman. night speaking with you. look, after all this, measuring three times, about to be a fourth, there is still has not
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three ballots, leaving him without the votes needed to clinch the speakership. it's unclear right now whether he even still has a path to win at all. what's also clear is the chaos that unfolded was not the message republicans wanted to send on their first day after taking control of the house. joining me now, cnn chief congressional correspondent manu raju, cnn political correspondent abby phillips, and republican strategist doug high. good to have you all on right now. just think about where we all are. you heard from congressman sessions. look, i don't know what path to victory mccarthy has. the votes are not there. he spoke to him, manu, he seemed to be very it glass half full. and i love an optimist. but i love a realist even more. is he just for show, putting on the brave face? >> i mean, it's hard to get fully inside kevin mccarthy's head at the moment. but he's making very clear to his allies and publicly he's
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not going anywhere. he says he is going to eventually get the votes. he says that there is no scenario in which he will drop out. now, he did say that perhaps he only needs to get 11 more republicans to peel off in his direction. , now that maybe just perhaps he won some over. it discussions happen tonight. maybe, he negotiated something to have some of them vote present. if they voted present, except for a candidate, that lowers the threshold of how many votes they ultimately need in the house. >> it also could help maybe hakeem jeffries. it's a crazy world we live in right now. >> yeah, exactly. there's a lot of iterations of what could take place. but mccarthy's making clear he is not going away. and he does have a significant amount of support within the republican conference, for now. and they also talk to him about this conversation with donald trump. because i've been concerned -- there's been concern in the mccarthy camp that trump has not been more fourth full in his support an endorsement of mccarthy. -- former speaker reiterated his support. >> do you need trump to come out and reiterated support for
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you? >> trump has already reiterated support. >> what did you guys discuss, what was the nature of it? >> from that perspective, he thinks it's better than all the republicans put together. so, it doesn't look good for republicans. we want to be able to solve it -- what we went through today is in the end becomes the positive that we are actually focused and united. >> does he say he wants you to stay in the race? >> oh yeah, oh yeah. >> but even though trump has called some of these members, it has not swayed them. that is the real concern he has. from 19 no vote state, 20 no votes on the final ballot. what's coming tomorrow? that is uncertain at this point. >> abby, just think about. that that number, it's not only gotten less 19 to 18 and a long way to go. it has gone up. and these people were well aware that donald trump had endorsed mccarthy, including someone like matt gaetz, who said okay, that, and what?
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>> yeah, the fact that this is going in the wrong direction for mccarthy is really bad. and it's really bad, especially because earlier in the evening, they thought that if only they could get jim jordan to really give him a full-throated endorsement, and really twist some arms behind the scenes, try to whip some votes, and that might help. and shortly after jim jordan try, that things actually got a lot worse for mccarthy. so, i think that is just disheartening to mccarthy, when he's being real and not putting on a bit of a brave face tonight. the fact that there was a trump call tonight, also not the best sign. the call is happening after trump told a reporter that he was kind of ambivalent about how this all turned out. trump is very sensitive to optics. he does not want to be seen as being on the side of a losing party here. and i think mccarthy is really on the verge of losing the
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momentum, losing the optics of this all, where he starts to look like a loser with each successive lost for the speakership. he's at three now. tomorrow, there will be more. and the longer this goes on, i think the weaker he gets. >> there is no optical allusion, doug. i mean, we watched three times. he fell very short of it. and even after jordan said, yeah, he's the one, still it did not change peoples minds. and this is after the red wave did not materialize. so i, think he was banking on a great. deal? right >> look, if we had a 20 seat republican set up, we will be sitting here talking with us. we have members sworn and. we talk about george santos, the new member, what's going to happen to him. instead of all this process we've been dealing with, and a lot of this talk is depressing for republican. so, let me be even more depressing. the united states senate doesn't come into session until january 23rd. so, while what's happening right now is real and especially in a constitutional sense, we're also still sort of playing with an awfully money until the senate comes back and. so, kevin mccarthy could
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>> all, right we're back now with more on the chaos unfolding on capitol hill as kevin mccarthy has failed to secure the speakership three separate times today, after three separate votes today. some mccarthy allies telling cnn mccarthy sent us home for the night to a pressure cooker. and the pressure is against him. back with me now manu rogers, abby phillips, and doug. look, it's 10:30 a night. so it's 10:30 on capitol hill. this all starts again at noon. i was speaking with congressman session, who says look, i don't think there's the appetite to go multiple rounds again in the same direction. what are you guys hearing right now on the hill about the possibility that this could endure? i don't know if we have the patients in the gop, on the
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floor, to keep going round after round. but do you think? >> look, they don't have a choice right now. there is -- the frustration is that every vote is not really changing all that much. there is a change of one vote today, from 19 to 20. and at that pace, we will be here until january 23rd, before anything really shifts. and i think that's really the source of the frustration. so, when they gavel in at noon again tomorrow, it is going to be groundhog day. unless what kevin mccarthy indicated him on a earlier tonight represents an earlier shift, then he's won over some votes, we'll find out. they're gonna be working overtime. i did think it was a positive sign. and i don't know what you think about this, manu, but i think it's a positive sign. they're at least some people saying, okay, i'm willing to continue talking. that is a lifeline for kevin mccarthy, that people want to talk to him. but i don't know if that gets him basically the 15 votes that he -- >> it's a really low bar.
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i want to talk to you. i got a hold, i got a chance. >> look, he was different, and it's different than what things were this morning. they had the super contentious meeting behind closed doors there were swears thrown, mccarthy just lashed out at his critics and one of his allies, mark rodgers, came out and said that some of those critics, opponents of kevin mccarthy, may lose their committee assignments if they keep going that route. you've got very tense, people in congress, chip roy told me afterwards that actually in boiler the opposition the other way. in a lot of ways, that very tense approach backfired. mccarthy signaled at that meeting he was done negotiating. tonight, his posture. change when he said that same gavel reporters, he said we're still talking, we're still open to sunny suggestions. but the problem remains that there are some members who do not really care about concessions. one of them, bob good, told me no matter what kevin mccarthy offers, he is still unknown. matt gaetz is still going to be a no. so, that's his math problem
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here. some simply don't want to. ken mccarthy and half the make the decision himself, or others make informed, that he has to bow out. he doesn't have the votes. >> of all the concessions he's made, you know, the whole prospect, the whole point of negotiating is that the two will meet in the middle. but of the middle is anyone but you, that doesn't bode. we'll talk about gates, he sent a letter to the architect of the capital calling mccarthy a squatter. why is this man in the office? he moved some boxes, apparently. he sent a letter saying what law, what house rule or precedent would allow him to stay. how long will he remain there before he is considered a squatter. and even questioning, doug, would you can still say consider him a speaker designate, even for tomorrow's hearing? but the question is, on the alternative side, who else? i mean, jim jordan said he does not want. he wants the head of the judiciary committee. he's got investigations on the brain. but who else? who is this reluctant warrior that congressman matt gaetz spoke of earlier today that might be able to get to that number?
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>> you know, no politician is retiring from office until they announced their retirement. no one is interested in that job until they actually are interested. and there's an opportunity for them. when the things that kevin mccarthy always says in meetings, whether it's his whip, majority leader, speaker designate, is no surprises. and today, he did not get any surprises. he does not want to go on the floor and find someone flipped on him, whether it's on the farm bill, which is of a we had a poll in 2014, mirage beat me over the head when that happened, or today. so, what we'll see is tomorrow. are there surprises? because the guns are drawn, right. it's very similar to the end of the 2015, 2016 primaries, where it was clear donald trump was going to win unless somebody got out. and the answer, was you should drop out, not me. moderates are saying, i don't want this go on forever. the freedom caucus is saying we don't want to go on forever. but they are both saying you should blink first, we. what >> so, who wins chicken? >> this is the question. no surprises, kevin mccarthy
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doesn't want any surprises. but he's gonna have to pull out a surprise to make this work. at the moment, there is not a clear path to the speakership. even his allies will say that. it's going to take either some great lock, or some magic, or something to get 15 people to come over to his side who have already said they are not going to do it. and look, anything is possible in this environment. maybe mccarthy gives away the entire store, if he has not already done that. to manu's point, that won't work for at least four of the whole ballots. it won't work for that. but maybe there's more that he can give. but short of that, it's going to be very difficult for him to get her. and i have yet to talk to anyone or see anyone out there who has actually articulated a path forward that actually ends in mccarthy. >> a real concern for mccarthy is if that opposition does grow. i mean, one of the members, can
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bud of colorado, and served a member of the freedom caucus, has been voting with the freedom caucus. he told me earlier that the doesn't mean he's going to continue to vote for mccarthy cause they need to find a speaker who can get elected. and the real concern in the mccarthy camp, if the opposition goes to 30, 40, maybe even beyond, we'll see, that is why to put a ton of pressure on him to bow out. that's why right now, behind the scenes, both sides are trying to lobby to build up their support. mccarthy is trying to peel away the opposition to. him we'll see how it turns out. but then tomorrow, those first initial ballots, they've been very instructive for mccarthy's future. >> kind of a good question about the speaker, the speaker's office. because he is in there. and it's really not clear how this is going to end. so, he's moved in, he may have to move out. >> and he's already decorated. >> and there is no sign. there is no sign. >> he's already decorated it? >> yeah,'s members have come out of the office and told me all the stuff is there. >> look, that's the kind of -- i don't know, that's an ego.
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the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and getting different results and open for them. but decorating the office you have not yet occupied, that's a different level of crazy. thank you everyone. nice talking to you tonight. we'll see what happens, come as they say, high noon. well tonight, we are learning about more about what happened to the buffalo bills player damar hamlin. and unfortunately, he is still in critical condition. this, after he collapsed on the field at last night's nfl game. now, we're learning he has had been resuscitated a second time. that happened once he arrived at the hospital last night. the very latest from that hospital in cincinnati is next. hey, man. nice pace! clearly, you're a safe driverer. you could saveve hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your carar insurance... ...so you only pay for what you need! [squawks] whoo! we gotta go again.
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outside the university of cincinnati, the manacles center, where he's being treated, after collapsing from cardiac arrest during last night's game again this it's an anti bengals. and tonight, his uncle tells cnn that hamlin had to be resuscitated twice. first, on the field itself and then a 2nd time after he was rushed to the hospital, where he is still in critical condition. i'm good to go right now to cnn 's adrienne brutus who spoke with damar hamlin's uncle and also joining us is cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. -- what did damar hamlin's uncle tell you about the condition of his nephew? >> laura coates, he told me he will not be able to rest until his nephew is out of the intensive care unit. but that is where he is tonight, still in critical condition, on a ventilator and sedated. dorian glenn, who is damar hamlin's uncle, also said that his nephew sustained some
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injuries to use his lungs, due to the chest compressions that took place on the field last night. that, after suffering cardiac arrest. he also told me or described what the hospital room looks like where his nephew is receiving care. he says damar hamlin he's laying on his stomach and doctors explained to his uncle and the family that he is on his stomach to take the pressure off of his lungs so they don't have to work so hard. and perhaps the most chilling information we received from his uncle today was that damar 's heart stopped beating at least twice. -- listen in. >> his heart had went out, so they had to resuscitate him twice. they resuscitated him on the field before they brought him to the hospital and they resuscitated him a 2nd time when they got him to the hospital. i just want to show my gratitude for the medical staff
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that were on hand. because, if not for them, my nephew probably would not even be here. . >> he also said the team of medical professionals here are doing everything they can to help his nephew. laura? >> adrian, i'm so glad you are able to speak with his uncle. we have all been waiting with baited breath to figure out what has happened. and sanjay, when you hear this, first of all, the idea that he had to be resuscitated more than once, and his heart stopped more than once, i'd love to hear your reactions as to how severe this must be. but also, the fact that there is long damage as a result of the chest compressions, possibly. talk to me about how that could happen. >> yeah. a couple of things. first of all, i think we do need to obviously hear from the doctors and get more clarity on exactly what has happened here. sometimes things get a little bit lost in translation. but nevertheless, to separate resuscitation's, one on the field, we are it sounds like he
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underwent cardiopulmonary resuscitation for a period of time. and then had a defibrillator placed and was able to restore a normal rhythm to his heart. but then it sounds like his electrical rhythm to his heart was still unstable. and by the time he got to the hospital, it sounds, like from what adrian is saying, that he needed to undergo a 2nd resuscitation. it is obviously concerning. also, something else that adrian pointed out, the idea that -- the lung damage itself, or the reason that he may be on his chest, on his abdomen, he's been part, sometimes, because the heart itself, when it is not working well, laura, when it is not pumping blood well, the fluid, the blood, tends to backup. people develop swelling, for example, in the legs and the feet. by that can also develop swelling in the lungs. it becomes harder to oxygenate those lungs actually flipping someone prone, into the prone position can help with that.
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but it also, again, speaks to the severity of things that that is what is in fact going on here. he is still listed as in critical condition, which kind of fits the picture that has been described. but we obviously need to get more clarity from the medical team. and that may not happen for sometime. they may wait for a while, to get some test results back, to get more of an idea of how he's, doing how the rest of his organs are doing, beside his heart, how he's lungs, his brain and other things have responded to all this. so, it could take some time before we actually get some more medical details from the medical team itself. >> it is so important to underscore the idea that this has not come from the medical team themselves yet. we are still waiting to hear that specificity coming from the team that, in fact, is treating him. but on that notion of, it is still very early -- i mean, it's been almost 24 hours now since he collapsed, and he is 24 years old. i am wondering just given the relative -- that we have seen and this
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being a medical event, in particular, do you have a sense of what the road ahead is, even for the medical team right now, in trying to assess where things go from here? >> yeah. there is probably a lot that is going on in a lot that goes into the care of this young man. and his age, i should point, out is a positive in terms of the likelihood of a better outcome. that is going to work to his advantage. but i don't want to minimize how critical, how serious this sounds. again, from the details that we are now getting -- there's a couple things. one is, when the heart is not functioning well, laura, you have the goal of trying to improve the heart function. that can be done through medicines that can help stimulate the heart and then create a stronger pump, so that can actually pump that blood throughout the body. and at the same time, you may decrease the demand from the body as well the heart is not working well? let's lower the demands on the body from the heart. and that is, in part, why he is
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sedated, in a medically induced coma. the light picture, it sounds like. but also, things like hypothermia. -- hypothermia, actually cooling the patient, to try to reduce the demands that the patient's body has on the heart. those are the things that are probably ongoing right now. and that process can take a while. and then even after that process, and he starts to improve, you then want to check and see how did the other organs fair here? how did the brain fare through all this? did get enough oxygen and blood throughout all this? so, it can take some time. i know that there is a desire, obviously, to get some sort of disposition on how he is doing and i am sure they are providing some, as much as they can, to the family. but it can take days, if not weeks, to really, sometimes, get a clear idea of exactly how he is going to do from all this. >> that so important to note. as we are getting more information, of course, about what kind of treatment was even available on the field and in
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the ambulance compared to, obviously, at the trauma center, at the hospital. adrian, dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> well, listen. amid all of the chaos that is happening on capitol hill, there was one person who was trying to avoid the spotlight. was that? do you pecan grossman elect george santos, staying away from reporters and sitting alone, as you can see there. and tonight we are actually learning more about his past, including documents showing that he admitted to easing stolen checks in brazil back in 2008. more next -- for skin as alive as you are... don't settle for silver. harness the power of 7 moisturizers & & 3 vitamins to smooth, heal, and moisturize your dry skin. gold bond. chamampion your skin.
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