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we are only a matter of hours away now from in the house is gonna be back in session tomorrow at noon, and they will do what they did today all over again, after they failed to elect a speaker on three consecutive ballots today, leaving kevin mccarthy fighting for his political life. but there is a lot going on behind the scene as we speak, including an effort by the so-called cover never kevin republicans to turn things in their direction. that as kevin mccarthy tells cnn he spoke to former president trump tonight and he, quote, reiterated support. >> -- trump to come out and reiterate his support for you? >> trump has also already reiterated support. >> i was a call a trump? what did you guys discuss? what was the nature of it? >> i mean, look -- from my perspective -- all republicans get together -- it does not look good for republicans --
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stronger -- >> what we went through today -- >> then becomes a focus, united -- >> this actually stay he wants you to stay in the race? >> meanwhile, the republican war of words continues. there is this letter from matt gates, the architect of the capital, questioning why can mccarthy has even been allowed to occupy the speaker's office in the capitol building. quote, after three in deciding votes, no member can lay claim to this office. how long will he remain in there before he is considered a squatter, unquote? congresswoman nancy mace tearing into gaetz tonight, tweeting at math gaetz, full ego was on display today. you're going to screw around and get another pelosi elected as speaker. i have a lot more to say about this political the luster tomorrow, unquote.
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so, look, if you thought today was crazy -- zanona is here and wondering how is -- shaping up tomorrow. are we seeing a bit of a groundhog day happening again tomorrow? >> lauren, unfortunately you think it might be a bit of a groundhog day. because we are seeing -- resolution at this point. after that third ballot were mccarthy feel to get the votes, they adjourned, the sort of -- into their separate corners to try to work things out. but we have not seen things move in kevin mccarthy's direction. in fact, i am being told that the never kevin republicans are trying to grow their ranks and to grow their opposition. i talked to a gop lawmaker who supported mccarthy and they said they received a phone call from one of the never kevin republicans trying to get them to change their vote. so, it is a sign that the opposition is just completely entrenched and dug in, and that at least some of them had no incentive right now to cooperate with kevin mccarthy
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and to negotiate with him. meanwhile, you have kevin mccarthy who, he's in his office, he has been making calls, and he still hoping to negotiate and hoping to latch onto 118 -- but it's really unclear what the path forward is for kevin mccarthy right now. >> it is really unclear, especially, even for democrats right now, who are being a little bit -- very obvious, shall we say, in their joy about all that is unfolding. we are seeing tweets about getting the popcorn ready and everything else, about watching what is happening, and we heard from hakeem jeffries earlier today, talking about the idea of not wanting to be helpful, to try to get republicans out of the mess they have created. of course, i am paraphrasing here. but what about the democrats? is there some moment in time where there is an appetite for, say, moderate republicans who try to work with democrats, to figure out who is an alternative to mccarthy? >> i think it is still early. but yes, the argument from some moderate republicans who say,
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if this drags on and there is no end in sight, but we are willing to start conversations about -- teaming up to elect more moderate speaker or teaming up with democrats to try to get them to vote present or not show up. because that would -- lower the threshold that kevin mccarthy needs to become speaker, but of course democrats, they won't do that for nothing. they would want something in return. so, they would have to be some negotiations there. and kevin mccarthy himself has said he doesn't want to -- because then we could start losing even more conservative. that could backfire for him. so, it's really delicate situation here for kevin mccarthy. democrats have said they have no intentions of -- bailing kevin mccarthy out. but they have also not necessarily ruled out, again, that idea of working with republicans to elect someone who is much more moderate than kevin mccarthy further down the line, anyway. >> we will see where things go. melanie, i hope you have comfy shoes on tomorrow. >> i -- do >> wearing heels earlier -- and is going to wear the flats all day tomorrow. >> we all knew you were smart.
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now we know you are even smarter. maddie zanona -- democrats are watching all throughout -- republican speaker -- well, we've got some great interest, shall we say. joining me now is democratic congressman ro khanna of california. congressman, thank you for joining me this evening. it is nice to see you. i just have to know about what the atmosphere was like today. we are watching, obviously, the vote tallies. we are also seeing on camera different pockets of your own members of your caucus and democrats who were huddled together, conversing and watching this all unfold. what is the atmosphere like as you saw three failed votes to secure a republican speaker of the house? >> i think there was a lot of surprise. kevin mccarthy has had two months and many on our side, the speaker, steny hoyer, or actually hoping for the sake of the institution that the republicans would figure it out. we --
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seven votes short. but 20 votes? no one counted on that. and it just mind-boggling that they have not done anything for two months to put together a governing coalition. >> shortly after the midterm elections, democrats were able to get their leadership lined up, so clearly there has been preparation on the democratic side. i'm wondering, is there some sort of plan now on the democratic side to figure out how best to go forward on your side? >> we are going forward. there was not a single defection in the vote for hakeem jeffries. of course, it's a historic vote, the first african american to lead a party in the house of representatives. and we are very optimistic about our leadership. here is the sense -- if there are five or six republicans who want to come across the vote, and have hakeem speak, or we would be thrilled. people have floated this idea of, well, what about a moderate republican? they have to be, in my view, at least two conditions that are met. first, they can't hold the
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country costed with a debt ceiling or government shutdown. and second, they can have subpoena power to do frivolous investigations against the president. unless they agree to those two terms, i don't think a single democrat is going to vote for any republican. >> those goals have not been met or those conditions not met, is there a person who could embodies some with those qualities that you and democrats might be leaning to support? >> i think it is premature to talk about specific names. i will say, there are people across the aisle who we have worked with and we would work with. people like brian fitzpatrick, mike gallagher. but the important is not the personality. the important thing is, are they willing, as hakeem jeffries has said, to actually govern? are they willing to -- bring manufacturing back, do not have government shutdowns, to legislate and compromise on immigration reform? or is their only interest to launch frivolous investigations against this president? we will not -- a single vote to a republican
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speaker who just wants to use the subpoena power to harass the president and not to get things done for the american people. >> there is an interesting moment, today, congressman, between congressman paul gosar, who voted against mccarthy three times, we've seen chatting with one of your colleagues, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. and given, of course, the fact that he was removed from a committee based on a tweet that he sent out that depicted some violence against her, it's an interesting -- to have this conversation. however, he was asking her today if democrats were planning to help lower the threshold for mccarthy. and this is according to her spokesperson. she thought there was no plan for that, to lower the threshold. remember, we talked about the magic number being 218, but relates the majority of those present and voting, whoever can secure that. is there some plan that is a foot? or a plan that might change tomorrow, to lower a threshold
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to give an advantage to somebody else? >> no. and i think it showed incredible, frankly, graciousness and class from representative ocasio-cortez to engage with someone who had used violent images against her. but look, maybe this shows that anything is possible in 2023. and the fact that she had the grace to talk to representative gosar shows that we may be able to have conversations. but at the end of the day, this is the republican mess. this is a failure of them to govern. this is their problem to fix. and democrats stand ready if they want to vote for hakeem jeffries or there are serious partners in actually governing in helping push for the president to get those things done. >> finally, real quick, i was spending speaking to congressman sessions earlier today, and he says there does not seem to be a thought that this could go on for round, after round, after round. there could be an appetite for
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a sustained -- experience of today. are you getting a sense that there is waning patience among even republicans to continue in the quest to have mccarthy as the speaker? >> on a sleet, no, i think both sides are digging in. the people that i have talked, two on the republican side, they are saying they are prepared to fight. this is going to go on. i hope it is resolve tomorrow. i don't think so. i think we are going to be at this for a while. and there are going to be several long nights this week. >> congressman ro khanna, i know long nights will be here tomorrow as well. nice talking to you. >> thank you, laura. i want to bring in cnn political commentator van jones, also mark mckinnon, former adviser to george w. bush and also the late john mccain. >> gentlemen, it was a long day for a person by the name of kevin mccarthy, and promises perhaps, van jones, to be even longer one tomorrow. i am wondering what you make of
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this. it has been talked about as a humiliating defeat as of now for kevin mccarthy. but is it a humiliation more broadly for the republican party in the house? >> i'm starting to get the impression that maybe republicans are not good at governing stuff. i'm just getting a sneaking suspicion. >> well, mark mckinnon this mulling at that thought. -- i don't know, i see the smile. >> this was just a humiliating circus, i think axelrod referred to it as a goat rodeo. this is supposed to be one of the most majestic moments in the american process, where the people have voted for these representatives, you go, you pick a speaker, everyone gets worn, in your mom's, they're your dad's, there are cousins are there. and it's turned into a complete, and mitigate disaster because, unlike the democratic party, republicans cannot find a way to come together and lead.
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it turns out, having trump is no longer enough. trump is not enough. because there is a movement beyond trump now that does not look like even donald trump, let alone kevin mccarthy. meanwhile, hakeem jeffries has been able to unite the dam -- we've got radicals, we've got moderates. but the democrats are cohesive, they are strong. and the republican party is falling apart, as kevin mccarthy -- >> mark how, do you see it? is it the goat rodeo? i will tell, you it's a new phrase for me. how do you see it? >> the actual circus is coordinated -- function of an action -- but to van's point, -- really strikes me as -- since the election, mccarthy has had -- and they really known for more than a year -- likely to take the house. and so it really confirms the point that van made, which is that, at the end of the, day it leads you to believe that maybe republicans are not really
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interested in governing? that it's more about disruption, it's more about chaos. we look at those 19 members, people who, especially, like matt gates, and i spent a lot of time covering for our show, the circus -- and it's clear that it is all about performance, it's all about getting on television. and i've never had any sense from him or others of that caucus that they want to govern. they had no interest in making things better. they want this to be a disaster for the next two years for president biden. and going to van jones's point, the democrats, who are usually seen as this organized, look at the transition of power from the party that did not have the -- or a majority, a complete smooth transition from an older generation, to a new generation of leadership. and republicans, who have all the -- >> just in the list of people, you put that graphic back up, of those who voted against mccarthy. it's now 20. and some of those people
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include people who have just -- the rules, i believe are, you can't be officially sworn in -- until you have a speaker. that's another hurdle, ceremonial or otherwise, that has not been met, why you saw kids on the floor and -- to your point, van. they are just thinking about the idea of, it seems to, be illusory negotiating, if what the concession that mccarthy has offered -- if they don't include not you, mccarthy, it seems that the whole negotiation is fraught. but you have the experience of trying to bridge that gap and bridge what seems to be two parties estranged at fellows, getting something done. is there a possibility that there is a course correction, that actually would help the american electorate here? >> it's just hard to see. and this is so unexpected. as broken was saying before, people were thinking five, at six votes, seven, you might be able to do something. when you have 19 and growing to 20, that is a different scenario --
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and so i think what you are going to see tomorrow, they are probably going to try this one more time. and then you have got to start thinking about, what are your alternatives? part of the problem here is that kevin mccarthy has been so transparent that he just wants to be speaker at any cost. and when you are an empty suit in a hurricane, you get blown around. he prostrate to tim south before donald trump. he had no principles there. in the past year, -- just want to be speaker no matter what. that is not a strong position to lead. this country needs leadership, though both parties need leadership. it is not shown leadership. he is actually just shown that he wants the job. it's not enough. and i think what you are going to see going forward is that there may be some creative ideas. people have forgotten, you don't have to be a member of the house of representatives to be the speaker of the house. so, they could go outside -- they could go get newt gingrich, they could go get whoever you wanted to -- i think that kevin mccarthy's
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moment is passing. i think he is paying a price for being in an principled, empty seat for the past year. and he's been blown around in a hurricane. >> we are out of time. the question is, whether it is out of time for kevin mccarthy, i was enjoying all the analogies, gentlemen, circus, to go to rodeo, to non empty suit in a hurricane. i'm here for all of it. the question, is who will be here to actually hold the gavel? thanks so much. >> thank you. >> we will see. >> now whoever become speaker, and somebody will eventually become speaker -- but whoever the new speaker is, he or she has just seen a clear demonstration of how difficult the job will be. we will talk about it next. uick? (mumbles) just sold the car to carvana. what? all i had to d do was answer a couple questions and got a real offer in s seconds. then, they just picked up the car and paid me right on the s spo. sell y your car at carvana dot com today. hi, my name's steve. i lost 138 pounds on golo and i kept it off. so with other diets, you just feel like you're muscling your way through it.
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course. it may democrats all too happy to watch the dysfunction of the incoming gop leadership. but the crucial votes looming -- will they need someone they can work with across the aisle? to me now is kevin madden, former top aide to the mid romney presidential campaign, and also former wife obama white house director naeher hawk and -- margaret haaland the, director of -- the at syracuse university. i'm sure you are all watching today -- >> must-see tv. >> it was must-see tv. >> and even some democrats brought popcorn. they were chewing it. >> you need a lot of popcorn tomorrow -- >> on that point -- i will start with you, kevin, on this point. because i am wondering how long does this really continue. kevin mccarthy could make a decision. but i was actually surprised that democrats agreed to even adjourn and sit back and say, hey, why don't you keep going? what happens next? >> i don't think they want
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their families to sit through it any longer than they had to. the thing is that there is an air of inevitability here, i think, and what is going to happen, which is inevitable, is that mccarthy could start to believe bleed votes. the thing that never gets better with these, the trend line always starts to move away from the person who is trying to count the votes, versus towards them. so when mccarthy tomorrow starts to possibly lose, go from 20 to 23, to maybe 30, somebody is going to come to him, whether it is pete sessions or somebody else, who is supportive of him, and say, we have got to go with another candidate. we've got to have a default option here. and so that is where you will start to see real conversation start to take place about -- so, next person up. >> who is that? >> it's really interesting to hear congressman pete sessions, not have that name, talk about the other side. and we need to get together and figure out who you were four and not who you were against, and talk about his own party. the other side was --
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democrats in this case. democrats are sitting around and thinking, now my circus, not my monkeys. they are going to watch. and as this goes on, there continues to play into biden's hands, and frankly into -- a narrative that the republican party is in. chaos >> and on that point -- i want to play for you -- and because your point, about the circus -- jeffries, talking about how they are looking for a willing partner. they are not bailing anybody out. >> they are looking for a willing partner to solve problems for the american people, not save the republicans from their dysfunction. we have not had any outreach from republican leadership or individuals on the other side of the aisle, with respect to the chaos crisis and confusion that we saw unfold before the american people today. >> what do you think about that? the idea that -- a circus. are they even approaching this in the right way? -- they could extend an olive branch or throw a life preserver. but why?
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>> they've also had years and years of pelosi, who never let a vote go to the floor until they knew they had the votes. it's -- that's also about the other side of the aisle. making sure you are not wasting anyone's time with parliamentary procedure when you should know better. what is the rest of the republican leadership doing right now? are they effectively helping mccarthy with his ego? how is this going to actually lead to something that is a governable caucus, the challenge being, these insurgents in the republican party are not interested in governing. they come from a tradition that is antiestablishment, burn the house down. and that is what they are doing to their own party. >> by the way, congressman -- referring to is the taliban 20. that's the phrasing. >> that's not going to help change any minds. >> yeah. >> i just think for democrats, the calculation is twofold. on the one hand, the golden rule in politics is, when the other side is messing up, just get out of the way. >> a boehner quote. >> right.
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>> boehner had a quote -- when your opponents are going to jump off of a bridge, whatever you do, don't push them. let them jump. >> -- think number one is to get out of the way and let them self destruct. but the second one is that kevin mccarthy is not someone they see as a governing partner. kevin mccarthy, for split-second, on january 6th, or after january six, was ready to hold donald trump accountable, until he realized it could cost him the speakership, where he did not have enough of his caucus with him, and so he step stepped back. and -- kevin mccarthy as speaker than jim jordan a speaker? i don't know. i guess so. >> jordan does not want to be speaker, though. he wants the head of the house judiciary committee. >> everybody wants to have the votes to be speaker. nobody actually wants to be speaker. i'm not even sure that kevin mccarthy wants to be speaker at this point. but i think whether he emerges or -- you are asking, if not kevin mccarthy, then who? i think we have all day to watch this play out. steve scalise still seems like the most obvious kind of fall
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back position. the question from mccarthy is, at what point is the tipping point come? and i see then in a power sharing agreement? or is he just out? and how fast can republicans land the plane? and in the civil war era we know that there was actually too much protracted fight -- 2023 in the modern era. that happening in the middle of inflation, russia's war on ukraine, the -- >> republicans agenda -- hunter biden. messes unimaginable, too -- is unimaginable. >> and two months from now, we might have more contenders hoping to be the gop nominee from 2024. which i know is always the enticing -- at the end of the -- and everyone stick around. the gop is certainly a house divided right now. but it's not even a divide of just two camps. there are actually five. i will explain next.
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>> all right, house is adjourned until noon tomorrow. this after republican members went to three ballots without electing a speaker. in march, the first time that voting is gone multiple rounds in 100 years, people. so, what does it say about the future of the gop? back with me now is kevin madden, -- nayyera haq, -- naeher talib. -- >> it's a lot of work -- it's probably not particularly
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-- speaker -- however, kevin mccarthy is up against, not just 19 people or 20 people at this point. it's a so-called five families happening right now. cnn's melanie zanona and lauren fox actually reporting that there are, quote, these five families in the gop that mccarthy has had two -- talks with. eve got different ideologies, you've got the republican study committee -- freedom caucus, gop governance group there probably some more. as long as the democrats don't have their own spectrum within their party. but just look at, that kevin, and think about what he is up against to try to placate, to give concessions to. it's a losing battle. >> it's not new. and managing minority factions not anything -- it's part of the job -- i think the real problem here
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is that since 2016, since the ascension of trump and -- maga element of the party, mccarthy and other republican leaders across the country, even in state parties, has really tried to placate the folks that sort of represent the house freedom caucus element. and placating them -- actually giving them agency leverage -- what direction the party wants to go and so a lot of that -- he's reaping what he sowed. many of these republicans are reaping what they sowed. and i hope to have an energized caucus, and energize faction within the -- feels empowered, and they are not going to be dictated to buy leadership. and that same point, he needs their votes to become speaker. and they don't feel the need to play ball with him and they feel empowered to do what they want to do. so, it's really slingshot back on.
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>> by the way, -- godfather voice just now. >> i almost put cotton balls in my mouth. >> i will tell you what. there is a part that really sticks out, now you're, and you mention this. it's one of the things talking about having more agency as the sort of rank and file members. that was one of the concessions that mccarthy wanted to make, they say, look, it's not just leadership, it goes to increased amendments and alike. everyone wants to have sort of a piece of the pie. these are not things, if mccarthy is not the person, ultimately, the speaker, they will have to agree to any. longer
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and it's sad to see him talking today about how he has the support there in no form president is not come out or help rescue him. and many the people he try to appease along the time of trump's presidency are also turning on him. it's a lesson of history, that applies to world war, and it applies to politics as well. appeasement does not work. but he is also saying people want a leader. they want somebody who will bring them forward, and going back and forth, not being able to develop consensus over the years, to have somebody else of the party as the leader, has been a problem for ken mccarthy all along. >> mark, can you give away the keys to the castle and still have the respect to be viewed as a leader? >> you need to be able to govern with some degree of fear for people to fall in line with an authority. i think nancy pelosi managed to do it with a very slim democratic majority these last couple of years. mccarthy is in a different
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position partly because of his own making. what you are talking about is right, the five families are all over the map. try to take the problem solvers or main street caucus and find a place where they meet in the middle of the freedom caucus. good luck, it is not there. but beyond that, some of this is just baked into the cake. mccarthy, over a period of several years, as he has wanted to find the right path to the speakership, had some choices or forks in the road, did he primary republicans in some of these really deep red districts to try to get people who wanted to make policy instead of just people who are provoking tours or people who want to, you know, train the swamp. except for their own negotiations, to which they would like to be relevant. and he chose go along to get a long. and now he is paying the price for it. >> his smaller margins, and the other thing as well is that element inside the party, they are just less -- they don't have the gravitational pull towards
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governing as much as they have a gravitational pull towards confronting the establishment. so, that's created a very big problem for him. and it just doesn't have the same sort of ability to really drop the hammer down, to use an egg name for my old boss, tom delay, make things happen in big chunks, make things move. happen in big margins, because they don't respond in the same sentence. >> -- make republicans miss pelosi, just because she could've been sworn in today. right, to that degree of being able to manage and move on with governing. but the challenge that he is going to continue to have, or any republican party is going to have is that typically when you are in the -- you only have one chamber, it is the unified message that you can send against the white house that helps you breakthrough. they are already starting off the new year without any -- >> and this is so important. >> this is going to be the blame game olympics for the next year. and it is wide open for the
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democrats and joe biden to be running on a record of what they will call success for two years. and now, seeing a party that does not have a coherent message heading into a presidential. >> to your point, the real power the speakership is two things. first, constitutionality of it. and a second is that you basically speak for a majority body, right, inside the house of representatives. and when you have, when you go into the negotiations with the white house, or even if the senate, right, because the old saying in the house as the democrats are the opposition by the senate's are the enemy, you just do not have that leverage now. so, whoever becomes speaker is going to be severely reduce. >> when you see joe biden and mitch mcconnell tomorrow standing together, ken mccarthy while he's trying to buy chick-fil-a and bring his caucus together, it's that congress. >> i don't know why we have to bring chick-fil-a into it. but okay margaret, that's fine, i hear you. thank you everyone. nice talking to you. good insights tonight. we'll start all over again shortly tomorrow. listen everyone, there are people right now in del mar hamlin's hometown who are
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, just outside of pittsburgh. commonly referred to as still rocks. he has run christmas toy drives for the community for the last three, years even starting a gofundme to help give back. his starting goal for the fund-raiser that established back in 2020, a mere 20 $500. and fans from across the world have poured in donations. tonight, that gofundme is nearly at $6 million. joining me now, cameron culver, he's the still rocks school board president and the president of the still rocks youth football organization. cameron, thank you for being with us tonight. you know, we've been talking about what happened to him. but tell me about him. you've known his family for years. tell me about this young man. >> yes, that's correct. thanks for having me. i've known damar for a long time, you know. a majority of my life. and i grew up with his family.
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so, just knowing damar, we used to call him mar mar growing up, just this resilient kid, running around the neighborhood. in the younger years, and now to the older years, just seeing how he is and how he wants to give back to his community. constantly never forgetting where he came from. damar hamlin, he really embodies what sto-rox is in many ways. again, just being resilient and not forgetting where you come from. >> tell me about the community of sto-rox, because part of the reason why he does remain so close to his heart is the community, is going back to the young people in particular. i know his parents are also a part of the community. they were at the game last. night tell me about the community of sto-rox, as to where he does come from. >> yes, so thanks for asking. sto-rox school district, we are one of the most underfunded districts in western pennsylvania. that being said, it should give
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you a perspective in general about how we, you know, try to make things work. try to provide opportunities for the youth and ingenuity in general going up. so, damar comes from that. where it's not necessarily struggles, but at the same time, everything is not given to you. so you really have to work for what you get. >> we even heard earlier from coach tomlin of the pittsburgh steelers, obviously. and he was speaking about the fact that he is from pittsburgh and what that meant, a community just outside of it and resilience in the wherewithal. talk to me about what the community has been dealing with and responding to what really at this point the world watched last night. how is the community reacting to what has happened to him? >> there is a lot of prayer, a lot a lot of. you know, a lot of the unknown, what's going on, right. respect for the family, whether they are patiently praying for damar. damar is one of those kids we look to, you know, most the
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people in our community look to damar as a figure. he's someone they want to be when they grow up. that's this nfl player. but just damar, he had a dream, chase the dream, he's living the dream right now. and is showing these kids that there's no dream too big or too small. and these kids, it's funny, because these kids, they want to be damar hamlin for halloween. so that's the kind of person that damar is and what he brings to the community. >> that's unbelievable to think about. i will tell you, the power of what one person can do to really arrest us all and stop us in our tracks and pay attention to the person, the human being, the person who has been a community leader and continues to give back, we're all thinking about him. and now, i know more about sto-rox, the committee you come from as well. we'll be looking for that. we'll be right back. when it does, aspen dental is here for r you. we offer the custom dental treatments you neeeed, all under one roof, right nearbyby.
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>> bryan kohberger will soon be moved from pennsylvania and headed over to custody authorities in idaho to face murder charges in the stabbing death of four university of idaho students. today in court, he waived extradition. here's cnn's pharaonic a miracle. >> bryan kohberger, coughed, shackles, wearing a present jumpsuit. arriving in a pennsylvania courthouse just days after being charged with murdering four university of idaho students in november. kohberger was escorted from a holding cell into the courtroom, confirming he's waving extradition, has no mental health issues that affect transfer, and green to be transported idaho. kohberger's family in the courtroom crying, as he turned several times and made eye
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contact with them. he faces four counts of first-degree murder, and one count of felony burglary in the deaths of kaylee goncalves, madison mogen, xana kernodle, and ethan chapin. i >> arrangements are currently being made to deliver kohberger back to idaho, where he can have continued due process and face these charges. >> and where he can access information about the evidence against him. idaho does not release the documents supporting an arrest warrant until defended returns to the state. >> i definitely believe that one of the main reasons the defendant chose to waive extradition and hurry's return back to idaho was the need to know what was in those documents. >> he said -- and i mean, this is not him. he believes he is going to be exonerated. that's what he believes. those were his words. >> university of idaho assistant law professor samuel newton tells cnn there is still a long road to trial. >> everybody has to put on evidence to support its charge, to show there is enough --
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there is probable cause to arrest in charge of those crimes. >> kayleigh's father says he plans to be in court at some point when kohberger turns idaho. >> we're just gonna look this guy up, look a man's eyes, he's gonna have to deal with this, he has been dealing with this for seven weeks. it is not about to end. >> it will be up to the local prosecutor to decide whether kohberger will face the death penalty. >> the victims were blameless, sleeping in a vulnerable position, crime is particularly brutal. multiple victims. so, i think there's many basis for a prosecutor to say i can charge this is aggravated murder. >> a death penalty case adds additional procedures to a murder prosecution that could take decades. for many living in the communities at both the university and idaho and washington state university, there is some relief a suspect is now in custody. >> imagine living and this has been like living in a murder mystery right in the middle of it. >> a mystery that is far from over. now that coworker is cleared
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>> good evening, take a look. only half of that building is functioning normally tonight. the house of representatives has no speaker. the last hundred years, it has taken no more than a single ballot in the first and session to elect one. today the house republicans who are now the majority could not muster the vote to make not
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