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look, we're only a matter of hours away now from when the house is going to be back in session tomorrow at noon when they'll do what they did today all over again after they failed to elect a speaker on three consecutive ballots today. leaving kevin mccarthy fighting for his political life. there is a lot going on behind the scenes, as we speak, including an effort by the so-called never kevin republicans to turn things in their direction. that is kevin mccarthy tells cnn he spoke to former president trump tonight, and he, quote, reiterated support. >> do you need trump to come out and reiterate his support for you? >> trump has already reiterated his support. >> how was your call with trump? what did you guys discuss? what was the nature of it? >> i mean, look, from that perspective, he thinks it's better that all the republicans get together and solve this.
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it doesn't look good for republicans, but we want to be able to solve it where we're stronger in the long run. what we went through today in the end becomes a positive that we're actually focused, united. >> does he say he wants you to stay in the race? >> oh, yeah, oh, yeah. >> meanwhile, the republican war of words continues. there is this letter from matt gaetz, the architect of the capitol questioning why kevin mccarthy has been allowed to even occupy the speaker's office in the capitol building. he writes, quote, after three undecideding votes, no member can lay claim to this office. how long will he remain there before he is considered a squatter? unquote. now congresswoman nancy mays tearing into matt gaetz, "full ego is on display today. he is going to screw around and get another pelosi elected
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speaker." i have a lot more to say about this capitol hill political d-lister tomorrow. if you thought today was crazy, our melanie zanona is here today and wondering how is something and everything shaping up tomorrow? are we seeing a bit of a groundhog's day happening again tomorrow? >> yeah, well, l , laura, i thit might be a groundhog's day tomorrow because we're seeing no resolution at this point. after that third ballot where mccarthy failed to get the votes, they adjourned. the separate camps went into their separate corners to try to work things out. we have not seen things move in kevin mccarthy's direction. in fact, i'm being told that the never kevin republicans are trying to grow their ranks and to grow her opposition. i talked to a gop lawmaker who supported mccarthy, and they said they received a phone call from one of the never kevin republicans trying to get them to change their vote. it is a sign the opposition is completely entrenched and dug in, and at least some of them
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have no incentive right now to cooperate with kevin mccarthy and to negotiate with him. and meanwhile you have kevin mccarthy who in his office, he was making calls. he is still hoping to negotiate, hoping to lock down 218 votes. but it's really unclear what the path forward is for kevin mccarthy right now. >> i mean, it's really unclear, especially even for democrats right now who are being a little bit very obvious, shall we say in their joy about all that's unfolding. we're seeing tweets about getting the popcorn ready and everything else about watching what's happening. we heard from hakeem jeffries earlier today talking about the idea of not wanting to be helpful to try to get republicans out of the mess they've created. of course, i'm paraphrasing him. but what about democrats? is there some moment in time where there is an appetite for, say, moderate republicans to try to work with democrats to try to figure out who is an alternative to mccarthy? >> i think it's still early, but
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yes, we are hearing from some moderate republicans who say if this drags on and there is no end in sight, they are willing to start conversations democrats about either teenage up to elect a more moderate speaker, or teaming up with democrats to try to get them to vote present or not show up. because that would essentially lower the threshold that kevin mccarthy needs to become speaker. but of course democrats, they wouldn't do that for nothing. they would want something in return there would have to be some negotiations there. kevin mccarthy himself has said he doesn't want to court democratic support because then he could start losing even more conservatives that could backfire for him. so it's a really delegate situation here for kevin mccarthy. democrats say they have no intentions of bailing kevin mccarthy out, but they have also not necessarily ruled out again that idea of working with republicans to elect someone who is much more moderate than kevin mccarthy further down the line any way. >> well, we'll see where things go, melanie. i hope you have comfy shoes on tomorrow. >> i did. i changed into my flats. i was wearing heels earlier today and i've already switched
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over. i'm just going to wear the flats all day today. >> look, we all knew you were smart. now we know you're even smarter. thank you so much. look, democrats are watching all the republicans' speaker drama. well, they've got some great interest, shall we say. joining me now democratic congressman ro khanna of california. congressman, thank you for joining me this evening. it's nice to see you. look, i just have to know about what the atmosphere was like today. we were watching obviously the vote tallies. we were also seeing on camera different pockets of your own members of your caucus and democrats who were huddled together conversing and watching this all unfold. what is the atmosphere like as you saw three failed votes to secure a republican speaker of the house? >> laura, i think there was a lot of surprise. i mean, look, kevin mccarthy has had two months to put the votes together. and many on our side, the speaker, steny hoyer, were actually hoping for the sake of
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the institution the republicans would figure it out. we came in thinking maybe it would be six votes short, seven votes short, but 20 votes? no one counted on that. it's mind-boggling that they haven't done anything for two months to put together a governing coalition. >> shortly after the midterm elections, democrats were able to get their leadership lined up. so there has been preparation on the democratic side. i'm wondering is there some sort of plan now on the democratic side to figure out how best to go forward on your side? >> well, we are going forward. there wasn't a single defection in the vote for hakeem jeffries. of course, a historic vote, the first african american to lead a party in the house of representatives, and we're very optimistic about our leadership. here's the sense. there are five, six republicans want to come across to vote hakeem speaker, we'd be thrilled. people have floated this idea what about a moderate republican there has to be at least in my view two conditions met.
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first, they can't hold this country hostage with the debt ceiling or government shutdowns. and second, they can't have subpoena power to do frivolous investigations against the president. unless they agree to those two terms, i don't think a single democrat is going to vote for any republican. >> if those, you know, goals have not been met or those conditions not met, is there a person who could embody some of those qualities that you as democrats might be leaning to support? >> i think it's premature to talk about specific names. i will say there are people across the aisle who we have worked with, and we would work with, people like brian fitzpatrick, nike gallagher. but the important thing is not the personality. the important thing is are they willing, as hakeem jeffries said, to actually govern. are they willing to help work to bring manufacturing back, to not have government shutdowns, or is their only interest to launch frivolous investigations against this president? we will not give a single vote
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to a republican speaker who just wants to use the subpoena power to harass the president and not to get things done for the american people. >> there was an interesting moment today, congressman, between congressman paul gosar, who voted against mccarthy three times was seen chatting with one of your colleagues, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. and given, of course, the fact that he was removed from a committee based on a tweet that he sent out that depicted some violence against her, it's an interesting combination to have this conversation. however, he was asking her today if democrats were planning to help lower the threshold for mccarthy. and so according to her spokesperson, she told him there was no public for that, to try the lower that threshold. i know we talk the magic number being 218. but really, it's the majority of those present and voting, whoever can secure that. is there some plan that is afoot? or a plan that might change
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tomorrow to lower a threshold to give an advantage to somebody else? >> no. and i think it showed incredible frankly graciousness and class from representative ocasio cortez to engage with someone who had used violent images against her. but, look, maybe this shows that anything is possible in 2023. and the fact that she had the grace to talk to representative gosar shows that we may be able to have conversations. but at the end of the day, this is the republican mess. this is a failure of them to governor. this is their problem to fix. democrats stand ready if they want to vote for hakeem jeffries or if they are serious partners in actually governing and helping work with the president to get things done. >> finally, real quick, i was speaking to congressman sessions from texas earlier in the show today and he suggested there didn't seem to be a thought that
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this could go on for round after round after round there wouldn't be the appetite for a sustained groundhog experience of today. are you getting a sense that there is waning patience among even republicans to continue in the quest to have mccarthy as the speaker? >> lawyer, ra honestly, no. i think both sides are digging in. the people i've talked to on the republican side, they're saying they're prepared to fight. this is going to go on. i don't think -- i hope it's resolved tomorrow. i don't think so. i think that we're going to be at this for a while. and there are going to be several long nights this week. >> congressman khanna, i know long nights. we'll be here tomorrow as well. nice talking to you. >> thank you, laura. >> i want to bring in cnn political commentator van jones, also mark mckenan, former adviser to george w. bush and also the lay john mccain. gentlemen, it was a long day for a person by the name of kevin mccarthy, and promises perhaps,
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van to be an each longer one tomorrow. i am wondering what you make of this. it's been talked about as a humiliating defeat as of now for kevin mccarthy. but is it a humiliation more broadly for the republican party in the house? >> yeah, i'm starting to get the impression that maybe republicans aren't good at governing stuff. i'm just getting a sneaking suspicion. >> well, mark mckinnon is smiling at that. i don't know. i see the smile. >> this was just a humiliating circus. i think axelrod referred to it as a goat rodeo. this is supposed to be one of the most majestic moments in the american process where the people have voted all these representatives. you go. you pick a speaker, and everybody gets sworn in. your mom is there. your dad is there. your cousins are there. it's a beautiful day. and it turned into a complete unmitigated disaster because unlike the democratic party, the republicans cannot find a way to
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come together and lead. it turns out having trump is no longer enough. trump is not enough. because there is a movement beyond trump now that doesn't listen to even donald trump, let alone kevin mccarthy. meanwhile, hakeem jeffries has been able to unite the democratic party. we have as many factions as the republicans. we have radicals. we have moderates. but the democrats are cohesive. they are strong, and the republican party is falling apart as kevin mccarthy falls on his face. >> mark, how do you see it? is it the goat rodeo which i tell you is a new phrase for me. but how do you see it? >> well, the actual circus is coordinated. this is way beyond the function that is completely broken down. to van's point, the thing that really strikes me is, you know, since the election, mccarthy's had time to put together these votes. they've really known for more than a year that the republicans were likely to take the house. so it really confirms the point that van made that at the end of the day, it lead you to believe
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that maybe republicans really aren't interested in governing, that it's more about disruption. it's more about chaos. and you look at those 19 members, people especially like matt gaetz. and i spent a lot of time around him covering him for our show, "the circus," and it's clear that it's all about performance. it's all about getting on television. there is no real -- i've never had any sense from him or others of that caucus that they want to govern. they have no interest in making things better. they want this to be a disaster for the next two years for president biden. and again, just echoing van's point, which i think is ironic, the democrats who are usually seen as disorganized, look at the transition of power for the party that didn't have the speakership or the majority. a complete smooth transition from an older generation to a new generation of leadership. and the republicans with all the marbles cannot shoot straight. >> just the list of people, if you put the graphic back up of
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those who voted against mccarthy, it's now 20. and some of those include people who have just been recently elected. not even yet sworn in. because the rules i believe are you can't be officially sworn in under oath until you have a speaker. yet another hurdle, ceremonial or otherwise that has not been met. why you saw kids on the floor and family members, to your point, van. thinking about the idea it seems to be illouori voting. you have experience in terms of trying to bridge this gap and bridge what seems to be two parties as strange bedfellows getting something done. is there a possibility that there is a course correction that actually would help the american electorate here? >> you know, it's just hard to see. i mean, this is so unexpected, as ro khanna was saying before. people were thinking five votes, six votes, seven, you might be able to do something. when you have 19 and growing to
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20, that's a different scenario. so i think what you're going to see tomorrow they're probably going to try this one more time. and then you've got to start thinking about what are your alternatives. part of the problem here is that kevin mccarthy has been so transparent that he just wants to be speaker at any cost. when you're an empty suit in a hurricane, you get blown around. he prostrated himself before donald trump. he had no principles there it looks like he spent the past -- certainly the past year just looking like i just want to be speaker, no matter what. that is not a strong position to lead. this country needs leadership. both parties need leadership. he has not shown leadership. he has actually shown he wants this job. it's not enough. i think what you're going see going forward is maybe some creative ideas. people have forgotten. you don't have to be a member of the house of representatives to be the speaker of the house. so they could go outside. they could go get newt gingrich. they could go get whoever they wanted to come in and solve this
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thing if they wanted to. but i think kevin mccarthy's moment is passing, and i think he is paying a price for being unprincipled empty suit for the past year, and he is being blown around in a hurricane. >> well, we are out of time. but you know what the question is, whether it's out of time for kevin mccarthy. i was en. >>ing all the analogies, gentlemen, circus to goat rodeo to now empty suit in a hurricane. i'm here for all of it. the question is who will be here to actually hold the gavel. thank you so much. >> thank you. we'll see. >> now whoever becomes speaker, and somebody will eventually become the speaker. but whoever that new speaker is, he or she has just seen a clear demonstration of how difficult the job will be. we'll talk about it next. when you can switch to air wick essential mist? it's the modern way to transform fragrance infused with natural essential oils into a mist. air wick essential mist. connect to nature.
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a chaotic day for republicans on the hill, where as you saw, kevin mccarthy could not wrangle enough members of his own party to clinch the speakership. multiply that times three, of course. with many democrats all too happy to watch the dysfunction of the incoming gop leadership. but with crucial votes looming, will they need someone they can work with across the aisle? joining me now kevin madden, former top aide to the mitt romney presidential campaign. also former obama white house senior director neera huck. and director of the democracy, journalism and business institute at syracuse university. listen, i'm sure you were all watching today. >> must-see tv. >> it was must-see tv. and even some democrats brought popcorn. you see what was happening? they were chewing it. >> they may need a lot of popcorn tomorrow. >> on that point, i'll start
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with you, kevin, on this point. i'm wondering, how long does this really continue? i mean, kevin mccarthy could make a decision, right? but i was actually surprised that democrats even agreed to adjourn, as opposed to sit back and say keep going. what happens next? >> i don't think they want their families to sit through that any longer than they had to. but, you know, the thing is that there is an air of inevitability here i think. and what's going to happen, which is inevitable is mccarthy could start to bleed votes. the thing that never gets better with these, the trend line always starts to move away from the person who is trying to count the votes versus towards them. so when mccarthy tomorrow starts to possibly lose, go from 20 to 23 to maybe 30, somebody is going to come to him, whether it's pete sessions or somebody else who is supportive of him and say we've got to go with another candidate. we've got to have a default option here. and so that's when you'll start to see, you know, real conversations start to take place about the next person up.
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>> who is that? >> it was really interesting to hear congressman pete sessions not have that name, talk about the other side and we need to get together and figure out who we are for and not who you are against, and talk about his own party, right? the other side was not democrats in this case. and democrats are sitting around thinking not my circus, not my monkeys. they're going watch. and as this goes on, this continues to play into biden's hand and the democrats' narrative that the republican party is in chaos. >> on that point, i want to play for you and it is congressman who is the minority leader jeffreys talking about how they're looking for a willing partner. they're not bailing anybody out. >> we're looking for a willing partner to solve problems for the american people, not save the republicans from their dysfunction. we haven't had any outreach from republican leadership or individuals on the other side of the aisle with respect to the chaos crisis and confusion that we saw unfold before the american people today.
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>> so what do you think about that? the idea of it not being the circus, et cetera, are they even approaching this in the right way that yeah, i guess they could extend an olive branch or throw out a life preserver. but why? >> also, they've had years and years of pelosi, who never let a vote go to the floor until they knew they had the votes. it's about -- that's also about the other side of the aisle of making sure you're not wasting anyone's time with parliamentary procedure when you should know better. what is the rest of republican leadership doing right now? are they effectively mccarthy with his ego? the challenge being these insurgents from the republican party are not interested in governing. they come from a tradition that is anti-establishment, burn the house down, and that is what they're doing to their own party. >> but congressman is referring to them now as the taliban 20. that's the phrasing that is now happening. >> that's not going help change
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many mines. >> yeah. go ahead. >> for democrats, the calculation is obviously twofold. on the one hand, the golden rule in politics when the other side is messing up, just get out of the way. >> boehner quote. boehner used to have a quote when your opponents are going to jump off a bridge, whatever you do, don't push them. let them jump. >> for democrats, you know, instinct number one is just get out of the way and let themself destruct. but i think a second one, kevin mccarthy is not someone they see as a governing partner. kevin mccarthy for a split second on january 6th, or after january 6th was ready to hold donald trump accountable until he realized it could cost him the speakership where he didn't have enough of his caucus with him, and then he stepped back. would democrats rather have kevin mccarthy as speaker than jim jordan as speaker? i don't know. i guess so. >> jordan doesn't want to be speaker, though. he wants to be head of the house judiciary committee. >> everybody wants to have the votes to be speaker. nobody actually wants to be
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speaker. i'm not even sure why kevin mccarthy wants to be speaker at this point.... but i think whether he merges or you were asking whether or not if not kevin mccarthy, then who? steve scalise still seems like the obvious fallback position. the question for mccarthy is at what point does the tipping point come? and is he then in a power sharing agreement, or is he just out? and how fast can republicans land the plane? in the civil war era, we know there was a two-month protracted fight for the next speaker to ascend. two months. but you cannot imagine in 2023 in the modern rear that happening in the middle of inflation, russia's war on ukraine, concerns about china. plus, republicans' agenda. they want to start their investigation on hunter biden. two months is unimaginable. two weeks is unimaginable. >> and two months from now we might have more contenders hoping to be the gop nominee for
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the 2024 race coming up, which i know is always the enticing karnt at the end of any of these sticks. everyone stick around. the gop is certainly a house divided right now, but it's not even a divide of two camps. there are actually five. i'm going explain, next. with a little help. and to support my family's immune health, i choose airborne. unlike some others, airborne gives you vitamin c and so much more. it's an 8 in 1 immune support formula. airborne. do more.
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all right. the house is adjourned until noon tomorrow. this after republican members went to three ballots without electing a speaker. it marks the first time that voting has gone multiple rounds in 100 years, people. so what does it say about the
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future of the gop? back with me now kevin madden, nayyera haq and margaret talev. it's not an enticing job. it's a lot of work. it's probably not particularly gratifying, although the speaker adds you're linked in just fine. however, kevin mccarthy is up against not just 19 people or 20 people at this point. it's a so-called five families happening right now. and cnn was reporting that there are these, quote, five families in the gop that mccarthy has had to be in talks with. you have different ideologies. you have the republican study committee, problem sovrks freedom caucus, gop governance group. there are probably some more. it's not as if the democrats don't have their own spectrum want their party. but just look at that, kevin, and think about what he sort of up against to try to play indicate, to give concessions
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to. it's a losing battle. >> well, it's not new. and that's one of the things about the house of representatives is the managing minority factions within your conference or caucus is not a new thing. it's part of the job. i think the real problem here is since 2016, since the ascension of trump and the maga element inside the party, mccarthy and other republican leaders i think across the country, even in state parties have had to really try and play indicate this -- the folks that sort of represent the house freedom caucus element. and in play indicating them, they've actually given them agency to and more leverage to dictate whether or not the party and what direction the party wants to go. a lot of that has basically now come back to he is reaping what he sowed. many of these republican leaders are reaping what they sow. they have an energize faction within their conference who feels empowered. and they're not going to be
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dictated to by leadership. at that same point, he needs their votes to become speaker. and they don't feel the need to sort of play ball with him. and they feel empowered to do what they want to do. so it's really sort of slingshot back on them. >> by the way, first of all, it took all i had not to do a godfather voice right now. i almost put cotton balls in my mouth, had the whole effect. i'm not going to do it here. there is a part that sticks out, as you mentioned. it's one of the things of having more agency as the sort of rank and file members that was one of the concessions that mccarthy wanted to make. it's not just leadership who gets to introduce amendments and the like. everyone wants to have a sort of piece of the pie these are not things. they don't have to agree to any longer. it starts all over again. >> it used to be that democrats, it's like herding cats. democrats have to fall in love with an issue, but republicans always fall in line.
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that's really flipped on its head now with this latest generation and crop of republicans in congress where that herding cats experience is not there. kevin mccarthy may have had the title of leader of the gop, but he was a follower of donald trump. constantly trying to chase what that aspect and what that individual wanted. and it's sad to see him talking today about how he has the support of the former president, but the former president himself has not come out to say that, or help rescue him. and many of the people he tried to appease along the time of trump's residency are also turning on him. it is one of the lessons of history. it applies to world wars and politics as well. appeasement doesn't work. people want a leader. they want somebody who will bring them forward. and going back and forth and not being able to develop consensus over the years to have somebody else of the party as the leader has been a problem for kevin mccarthy all along. >> and mark, can you give away the keys to the castle and still have the respect to be viewed as a leader?
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>> you need to be able to govern with some degree of fear for people to fall in line and with an authority. i think nancy pelosi managed to do it with a very, very slim democratic majority. these last couple of years. mccarthy is in a different position, partly because of his own making. what you're talking about is right. the five families are all over the map. trying to take the problem solvers or the main street caucus and find place where they meet in the world and good luck. it ain't there. but beyond that, some of this is just baked in the cake. mccarthy over a period of several years, as he has wanted to find the right path to attend to the speakership, had some choices on forks in the road. his he primary republicans in some of of these really deep red districts to try to get people who wanted to make policy instead of just people who are provocateurs or people who want to drain the swamp, except for
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their own negotiations which they would like to be relevant. and he chose to go along to get along. and now he is paying the price for it. >> he has smaller margins. and the other thing too is that element inside the party, they're just less. they don't have the gravitational pull towards governing as they have a gravitational pool toward confronting the establishment. so that's created a very big problem for him. and he just doesn't have the same sort of ability to really drop the hammer down. use a nickname from my old boss tom dre and move things and make things happen in chunks. they don't respond to the same incentives. >> a chance to make republicans miss pelosi just for the fact they couldn't get sworn in today. to that, the efficiency of being able to manage and move on with coveraging. but the challenge that he is going to continue to have or anybody in the republican party is going to have is typically when you're in the -- you only have one chamber.
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it's the unified message that you can send against the white house that helps you break through. they're already starting off the new year without any. >> this is off a gift to joe biden. >> it's so important. so important. >> it's going to be the blame game olympics for the next year, and it is wide open for the democrats and joe biden to be running on a record of what they will call success for two years, and now seeing a party that does not have a coherent message heading into a pressure. turkey, your point, the real power of the speakership is two things. first, the constitutionality of it. and the second is you basically speak for a majority body, right, inside the house of representatives. and when you have -- when you go into a negotiation with the white house or even against the senate, right? because the old saying the democrats is opposition but the senate is the enemy. you don't have that leverage now. whoever comes speaker is going to be severely reduced. >> when we see joe biden and mitch mcconnell tomorrow standing together while kevin mccarthy is trying to buy
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chick-fil-a and bring his caucus together, that says it all. >> i don't know why they have to bring chick-fil-a into it, but okay, fine. thanks for talking. it will start all over again shortly tomorrow. listen, everyone, there are people right now in damar hamlin's hometown who are anticipating for any answers about the health of the buffalo bills player who is in critical condition after collapsing on the field last night. next, someone who knows hamlin's family well and all that he has done to help his community in and out of that uniform. go int. nothing kills more viruses on more surfaces than lysol disinfectant spray. ♪ buried in receipts, invoices and other paperwork that's preventing you from doing what matters most? then get the all new epson rapidreceipt smart organizer to scan, digitize and organize your documents and receipts. receipts go in, and stress goes away. it's the only
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buffalo bills safety damar hamlin is still sedated after having to be resuscitated twice monday after collapsing on the field during last night games. that's according to his uncle. hamlin has become a community leader in the small town of mckees rocks outside of pittsburgh, commonly referred to as sto-rocks. he has run christmas drives for the past few years. he started a fund back in 2020, a marry $2500. and fans from across the world have poured in donations. tonight that gofundme is nearly at $6 million. joining me now, cameron culver. he is the still rocks school board president and the president of the sto-rox youth organization. cameron, thank you for being with us tonight. you know, we've been talking about what happened to him.
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but tell me about him. you've known his family for years. tell me about this young man. >> yes, that's correct. thanks for having me. i've known damar for a long time. majority of my life. i grew up with his family. so just knowing, knowing damar, we used to call him moore-moore growing up. this is a kid that ran around the neighborhood. in the younger years and now to the older years, just seeing how he is and how he wants to give back to his community. constantly never forgetting where he came from. the more hamlin he really embodies in many ways. again, just being with zillia and not forgetting where he came from. >> part of the reason it continues to be so close to his heart is the community, is giving back to the young people in particular. i know his parents are part of the community. they were at the game last night. tell me about the community of
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sto-rocks as to where he does come from. >> yes, thanks for asking. so we are one of the underfunded districts in all pennsylvania. so with that being shed, that should give you perspective in general about how we tried to make things work, try to provide opportunities for the youth and the community in general growing up and just going throughout. so the more comes from that it's not necessarily struggle, but at the same time everything is not given to you. so you really have to work for what you get. >> we even heard earlier from coach tomlin of the pittsburgh steelers, obviously. and he was speaking about the fact that he is from pittsburgh, what that meant, a community outside of it, the resilience and the wherewithal. talk about what the community has been dealing with and responding to what really at this point the world watched last night. how is the community reacting to what's happened to him? >> there is a lot of prayer, a
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lot of love. like i said, a lot of the unknown, what's going on right. but with respect to the family, whether it's being a patient for tomorrow, demar is one of those kids that we look to most of our community look to damar as a figure, you know. he is someone they want to be when they grow up. just damar had a dream, chased his dream. he is living his dream right now and is showing the kids there is no dream too big or too small. it's funny, so that's the kind of person he is and what he wants to do in the community. >> that's unbelievable to think about. i'll tell you, the power of what one person can do to really arrest us all and stop us in our tracks and pay attention to the person, the human being, the person who has been a community leader and continues to give back. we're all thinking about him. and now i know more stow rocks
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cell into the courtroom, confirming he is waving extradition, has no mental health issues that would affect a transfer, and agreeing to be transferred to idaho. kohlberger's family in the courtroom crying as he made to them several times and made eye contact. he faces four counts of first-degree murder and one count of felony burglary in the stabbing deaths of ethan chapin, zena kernodle. >> where he can go back to idaho where he can continue to have due process and face these charges. >> reporter: and where he can have information about the evidence against him. idaho does not release the documents supporting an arrest warrant until the defendant returns to the state. >> i definitely believe that one of the main reasons the defendant chose to waive extradition and hurry his return back to idaho was the need to know what was in those documents. >> he said it. this is not him. he believes he is going to be exonerated. that's what he believes. those were his words.
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