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display so far. i mean, there were three votes yesterday. three more votes earlier today. >> no member elect having received a majority of the whole number of votes cast, a speaker has not been elected. >> a speaker has not been elected. >> a speaker has not been elected. >> she's just recorded that and keep pushing play throughout the day today and maybe it might happen again tomorrow because they still have not managed to elect a speaker of the house. not yet, anyway. and it's been 100 years since this has actually even happened. let alone on the first round or the second or now going into a seventh or more round. it's beginning to feel like it will be 100 more before you finally get all of this done. kevin mccarthy is really fighting for his political life and for the job that he has been very, very clear that he's wanted all along. but it just shows you how hard,

really, it's going to be for anyone to do this job, let alone kevin mccarthy who is fighting for those votes. not an attractive proposition for so many people. how hard it's going to be to get anything really done with even the slim majority over the democrats and then a slim grasp on your own caucus. let's remember it actually matters to america. it is not just a matter of watching what it is like to see how the sausage is made and political muscle flexing. congress does have real work to do, work that can't actually get done or even started until they elect a speaker and actually wea swear in the members. i want to bring in manu raju on capitol hill tonight. manu, i mean kevin mccarthy still does not have the votes. it's been groundhog day all over again for him but hoping i guess again tomorrow is a day to fight once again.

does he have the real progress he spoke of? >> there is some progress, but not the progress that he wants. there is some indication that some of those members of those 20 are moving in his direction. i have talked to several of them tonight. they are encouraged by the course of the talks. the congressman from texas, michael cloud also of texas and scott perry of pennsylvania, all of them have been mccarthy opponents now say they believe there has been some progress made. i am told there was an offer made by the mccarthy team tonight, those conservative opponents and detailing some process changes some rules changes, giving them more sway over the legislative process, things they have demanded for some time as well as some leverage over this speakership. they had been pushing for having one individual member to call for a vote to oust a sitting speaker. that is something mccarthy has resisted. it sounds like they are moving closer in that direction. all of that means that for now he's making progress.

but it does not mean, laura, he will get 218 votes to become elected speaker. there are other members who have different demands. they have different concerns. and the mccarthy team knows that full well, so they plan to negotiate with those other pockets of members to get onboard because the math is incredibly difficult. with a 220 seat republican majority, he can only afford to lose four republican votes. he has almost certainly four rock hard no votes. that means he can't lose any additional votes beyond that. and the moment he does not have 218 votes, even if he gets acceptance to this offer they made tonight. so work is still ahead for mccarthy to become elected speaker. this could drag out into tomorrow, maybe even into the weekend or even beyond. so there is a ways to go before mccarthy could get the speaker's gavel. >> that means these members, all of them, are not actually sworn in. you have people who have committee assignments who are

incumbents, who are returning. there are new members of congress that don't have a direction at this point in time as to what to do. but i'm surprised by the concessions being offered again, especially that threshold offer for the motion to vacate. originally the rebels wanted one, assuming they wanted to negotiate in good faith. he offered five. are we saying it is moving closer to some sort of splitting the baby or it's one or nothing? >> i mean, it's a bit a day in the moment, but it sounds like the conservatives will get what they want. that is the expectation at the moment because that has been a red line for a number of these members. none of the members have come out and said they're happy in the direction this is moving and it sounds like that's essentially what they're going to get. remember mccarthy where he started. he said he wanted half the republican conference to call for that vote and oust the sitting speaker. that has now -- then it came down to five members. allowing five members to call for that vote. now it sounds like he's probably

going to give them one member to call for that vote. why is that significant? do you remember what happened to john boehner when the rule was one member would call for the vote. he didn't want to go through with the vote that could have toppled a residing speaker, so he resigned. and that threat to oust the speaker has been sitting -- has been yielded over the last several years so much so that it was nancy pelosi who raised the threshold to have their members to call for such a vote. but this hard line group of conservatives want to lower that threshold to empower themselves over the speaker ship, but that has caused a lot of concern within the ranks that perhaps will lead to such an unyielding situation where at any moment the sitting speaker could be ousted. >> thank you so much. here with me in the studio david urban. also cnn anchor and senior contributor at axios. look, the more you lower the threshold, the closer you bring

that sort of damaclese above the head of the speaker. the more votes you have now and it only takes one person to oust you, that means he would constantly be living in a state of fear. this is a no brainer as to why he doesn't want this rgs right? >> and yet he does want the job. what we're seeing today is a little bit of a preview of what is to come if he ends up pulling it off. so much of the last five, six years the political debate in the u.s. has been about whether political minorities yield too much power, right? whether the way the senate is aforgsed, the electoral college, gerrymandering, whether all of that is fair, the idea that you could lose the popular vote and still be the president. but what is happening here? what is playing out here is the opposite. it is the core minority of the republican party saying we want more power.

we want the ability to yield more power and to take five people and give them the equivalency of like 100 people and that's really what's playing out here. >> take a step back on this point because it really is the republican party, right? then you have got the so-called rebels within and the idea of thinking about the minority rule playing out. you are really seeing this in realtime, the idea that we even had former congressman adam kinzinger on the air talking about how he was glad the person people are seeing how his party has been hijacked by a select few. is that the real optic here? >> i think the american people have tvs and have been voting for a couple years. they have whatever their own opinion is on the republican party and the state of it solidified already. what's significant here is if you put yourself in a position where you can at any given time the leadership undercut. remember, this person who is the third in line for the presidency like after the vice president,

you can have a carousel, right, of people coming in and out. but what's significant about that is you have national security briefings that have to be happening, right, which aren't happening right now. we have people that need to be chairs of committees, that need to get legislation going, who need to pay the people on the hill. like all of these really basic things. >> and, in fact, i want to play it for a second here a clip because congressman gallagher i believe was talking about that very point, about he didn't even have security clearance at this point. listen to this. >> right now, don and i were supposed to be meeting with the chairman of the joint chiefs to talk about matters in the i indo- indo-pacific. but i'm informed by house security that technically i don't have clearance. i'm on the armed services committee and i can't meet in the skiff to conduct essential business. my point is we have work to do that we can't do right now.

>> ridiculous. >> yeah. he's not even a congressman technically right now. i mean, this is a big problem. and these are people who are guiding legislatively what is going on for the country. i don't think it is an accident that so many people are leaning more into state legislators, which are basically saying, look, we can get things done at the state level. i don't think it is an accident that ron desantis was essentially crowing at his second term speech which sounded a lot like a stump speech and nodding to the dysfunction in washington, someone that used to be in the freedom caucus when he was a lawmaker because there is this sense that this is just a clown car and these images of them milling around, arguing publically, the pizza boxes, it is not giving the vibe they want which is democracy is messy. it's just they look messy. >> a clown car might have more votes ultimately than when it matters. if it was a good one i would write into it. it's like i'm doing metaphors.

we're doing clown cars tonight. tell me about the clown car that was this movement. >> put us in charge and we will do great things in washington. the message was we have all these great important things they care about. hopefully they will start doing them once we get to the speaker. but back to your point about whether it is one or five, it's almost like irrelevant if it is one or five, right? if you got five, you can get one. if you got one, you can get five. >> how is the number four? >> i think it doesn't matter. >> nancy pelosi needed 50. >> it means there is a vote to recall you, right? you could have it every day. someone could come up and do it every day. it is a waste of time at some point. >> when i mention about the four. forget even the threshold. for you to actually become the speaker of the house to worry about that sort of dam close (,

if we go to tomorrow does kevin mccarthy have it? >> my prediction is kevin mccarthy will be the speaker. i don't think there is a plan b. you have asked people. you have seen it on the hill. there is no plan b. a few weeks from now, there will be a painful vote in the house to raise the debt ceiling, right? which lots of people aren't going to like. lots of these folks that are squawking right now aren't going to want that to happen. i promise you as soon as that vote takes place, there will be a motion to recall -- get kevin knocked out. so you don't see anybody else say put me in, coach, because they will get knocked out right then. it is a very tough job. my prediction is they're doing real work right now, like manu said. othering the negotiating in good faith. >> why this other guy from florida? >> he's a smart guy. he's taking advantage of an opportunity. i don't think he will ever be speaker. not this crowd.

byron may be speaker at some point in the future. i just don't think in this congress he will be speaker. >> to quote him today, never really came here to be speaker of the house. well, they nominated me. of course i voted for myself. that is pretty cool. it is not a serious -- right? >> so kevin will get there. i think we will get there. this is -- look, people have said this. sausage making is ugly. people in america aren't used to seeing real legislative struggles. to the point of a lot of these folks in this group of 20, they're not able to offer amendments on the floor of the house, right? they're not able to read bills. there is not really legislation taking place. you don't see it taking place, right? >> to be fair, the american public has been angry about legislating. forget about the sausage being made. don't worry. the clock is ticking, everyone. the house is actually due back in a matter of hours. and when we have an optimist here on the panel about kevin mccarthy being able to get those numbers, but he is running out

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now, as you saw tonight, the house adjourned again without any clear answer on who will be the new house speaker. now, tonight, there were actually four gop house members. you see them on the screen right

there. the one to the far right, i believe, is a congressman-elect, a new one. and members voting with democrats to keep the house in session, to vote against adjourning and going home and coming back tomorrow at noon. so now the question on everyone's mind is this standoff will drag now into a third day is who is going to blink first. back with me, on that point, i mean, the idea of not adjourning tonight, for these four members in particular, right, you see some of them. at least we know they were already sort of never kevin. >> yes. >> and the thought of some were, look, he doesn't want to adjourn because there might be a reason to have an alternative be able to be voted on and he would lose again. how do you see the fact that was not an adjournment tonight, it wasn't adjourning tonight?

>> i think the ones who didn't want to adjourn want to just have a succession of humiliating votes that weaken him and end this or at least weaken him. but i think there is enough of a desire in the rest of the republican caucus to turn the cameras off for a minute and take it behind closed doors and try to do the horse trading, the concessions and try to figure out whether it's going to be mccarthy or whether it can't be. in that case, what is the plan b? is it ska lease or whatever. you can't do that on the floor. >> are you getting a sense there is a plan b? >> my prediction is kevin mccarthy. they will get some concessions and it will be kevin. you have not heard from anybody other than chip roy i have seen on any network or anywhere that has laid out here are the things i would like to see happen or here's an alternative course, right? >> the other part of that is let's say it couldn't be mccarthy, let's say no deal

could coalesce. ska lease has made sense. he will not go out and campaign for himself. he's a mccarthy ally. he said he's standing by him. >> is the power enticing to mccarthy? >> he can't get those five holdouts if he puts himself out as a candidate. the only way it could be him is if everyone came to him. >> kevin mccarthy might say no you're not, steve scalise. >> there is context to throw out here. mccarthy has born witness to gingrich going down, bader going down. he was there when the tea party caucus basically brought things to a standstill, right, over the debt ceiling, et cetera. he has seen every one of these movies before. and i think one of the things he's learned evidently, i'm just seeing this over the last couple of days, is that you have to wait it out.

they will go all the way to the matt. he's first of the establishment types to go, what if i wait, too, right? the one that says maybe embarrassment shouldn't be the thing that takes me out of this. maybe cable news chatter can't take me out of this. if you can withstand the storm, can you actually outwait these people? >> he could be stronger. >> when it is totally about learning the lessons of the last few years? now, can you govern the whole way like that? that seems hard if you have to horse trait all of the power of the office away to get it. >> that was the part that congressman made when he nominated mccarthy earlier today. he was talking about twitter and cable news and the idea of everybody rejoicing in how humiliating this looks. maybe that was a shifting of the narrative. i don't know if it is a successful one or not. >> i'm saying that is not something that is enough to deter kevin mccarthy from

pushing forward. >> right. bader got out. >> mccarthy is like, i don't want to be humiliated. i got to get out of here. how far can we go? he's going to stick it out because he knows that waiting it out actually could work because there is not as many people as you think holding out. >> so why did -- why did the former president and now candidate yet again, donald trump, why did he voice his support again today in the way that he did? why did he do that? >> on true social? >> on true social. he already endorsed him before. we know this. there was talk about whether he would double down and make it vocal again and then there was the true social. but it hasn't seemed to move the numbers. you seem convinced that it is mccarthy or bust, but trump didn't seem to change the minds or sway the minds, at least of these four. >> he made it worse. >> right. >> he got up on the floor, said he's been calling everyone. by the way, maybe you should

call kevin mccarthy. i mean, it really does signify -- >> very snarky, though, by the way. >> very much so. >> she bit the hand that fed her. >> she said it was my favorite president but it was clear saying to the cameras, his favorite sort of medium, that's not going to work with us. and i think that also is a reflection of the performance of the mid-terms, right? the trump name didn't hold them the way they wanted or it could. >> squeaked it out. >> struggled in her own race. trump can't save kevin mccarthy. >> two year yolo. >> just a tattoo. that's amazing. >> take a step back for a second because what does that really mean? because trump, of course, is running to be the president of the united states again. did not have the sway to have the red wave materialize. kevin mccarthy, who has famously

known as the one who went to kiss the ring following january 6th to secure the support has been derided continuously for having done so. and now even his endorsement doesn't seem to pull any sway even more a matt gaetz or boebert. >> it appears they're leaderless at the moment. >> mitch mcconnell had a good day. >> don't you want to know what mitch mcconnell is thinking? he's thinking, really kevin. >> he was excited about the infrastructure package. >> he is singularly focused on the senate. always has been, always will be, and that's the beauty or the ugliness of mitch mcconnell. he's a very effective legislature. he runs the senate well. >> so, you know, kudos to leader mcconnell. but there isn't a singular person in the party, whether it's donald trump, whether it's

the rnc. there is nobody that can exercise that power over any one of these districts to make a difference. and i think it's because, you know, look, it is the legislature. every decade we draw these districts safer and safer. so the only way byron donald loses is from the right. right? the only way matt gaetz loses is from the right. >> and this is why one of their demands is extremely specific. they don't want the house leadership to jump in races where there are open seats, safe, open republican seats. they say don't jump in there because they know they may have the advantage in a scenario that is primary voter focused. and they just saw a bunch of races and a bunch of losses, and they have seen their whole party say i don't know about this. i don't know about these maga people. maybe we should be doing something else. and so there are actual greater sort of concerns that are going on here that are playing out that we can't tell because we're

busy being like mccarthy stepped on a rake. you know, it is about the future of the party. who will run? >> and you saw this evening, the congress mall leadership fund had an announcement we're not going to attack each other. we will play nice in primaries. to the point about that was a big deal. mccarthy said i won't do that in the future. the club, and that may be a big leaf to give people an option to say that was the reason i was holding out. so now it will be for kevin. >> or if it's obvious it may fuel an entire generation of tea party candidates. >> but it does provide a reason for people to say, okay, now i can be for kevin. >> or i could be not kevin or whatever it is. >> yeah, exactly. >> to your question, donald trump is weakened. but this is a weird one because house leadership races are not normally the terrain of sitting experts and presidents because there is a terrain of members of the house. so it is a weird place for him to insert himself. also, like, he, yes, he supported kevin mccarthy but not

in the way. if he was really like -- if he were still president and running for this, he would have been threatening people, cajoling them. >> mccarthy would actually look like attacking the people who are challenging the party. >> he did put his name out there. on the record -- >> he did not come up with cute nicknames. he didn't do the things that he knows are most effective. >> the ground is shifting for him. i think it is a weird thing. >> that is the way we end it. it has been a weird thing that we can all agree. it has been a weird thing. it's also been, okay, this is why i guess kevin mccarthy continues to go. the panel gives him some optimism. it has been a chaotic couple of days on capitol hill. more broadly, forget about the health of the gop or the democrats, how about the health of the democracy? we will talk about that with someone who knows kevin mccarthy very well, frank luntz is up next.

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i want to go right now to manu raju with news on capitol hill about key concessions from

kevin mccarthy in his push to get the 218 votes. what's new? >> yeah. a lot of these conservative members have been asking for a number of changes to the house rules and other matters in order to give them more power, more sway. this is members of the far right freedom caucus that believe they have been shut down by the freedom caucus. and now they are getting some concessions they have demanded. three major issues that we have learned. our sources are telling me and my colleague that mccarthy agreed to change what's known as the motion to vacate. that is the how a vote is called on the floor of the house to essentially oust a sitting speaker. mccarthy had come down from the current conference rules that allow for half of the republican congress, more than 100 members, to call for such a vote. he agreed to come down to five members. that wasn't good enough for the remembers. they wanted to come down to a one member threshold, meaning

they could call to oust a sitting speaker. mccarthy, we're told, has agreed to that cononcession. also, they wanted members who would take part on the house rules committee. that is a very powerful committee here in the house that would essentially dictate the terms of the bill and the amendments on the house floor. it is usually controlled by the leadership. mccarthy agreed to give some members seats on that very powerful committee which had huge implications for the bills that come to the floor and the amendments being offered to it. now, in the final concession we learned about, he's promising to give them votes on key policy matters they proposed. among those issues is imposing term limits on members of congress. it was resisted by people serving in congress for some time, which is a lot of the more veteran members, the more senior members. there will be a vote on the house floor. that doesn't mean it will become law. but at least mccarthy said he

would promise to give them a vote. and also on a border security plan they had been pushing. so those are among the issues that are on the table that were provided in an offer today to conservative members, several of whom i have spoken to have said that they are heartened by this and they could potentially embrace this and maybe could support kevin mccarthy. laura, that doesn't mean if this is call agreed to he would get 218 votes tomorrow to get speaker. he still almost certainly would not because there are other members who have different demands and different concerns that they still have to resolve. but it appears he's moving in that direction to give these members what they want. even though some other members, a lot of other members, particularly the more modern members are concerned about giving too many concessions, particularly over the speaker ship to what is a leverage to cause chaos in the ranks and instability in the house. nevertheless, mccarthy is moving in that direction because he needs the votes. >> manu raju, wow, sounds like

the keys to the castle. i'm not sure what's left at this point. joining me now a friend of mccarthy. frank, i'm glad you are here. first of all, you have known him for, what, 29 years. and thinking about the concession that now have been agreed to or at least tentatively agreed to in part to get those votes, what does the willingness to make these deals still tell you about how badly mccarthy wants this position? i mean, it could be just a fleeting post if you have that one-person threshold and everything else. >> well, i have empathy for the members who feel like their voice hasn't been heard. i have been involved in this whole thing for about 30, 35 years, and i understand the frustration on the left and on the right. and i feel like they can't make the difference they want to make when they can't have the impact they're trying to do. i get that. but thomas payne wrote to eloquently in 1776, what we

obtained so cheaply we esteem too lightly. i think we have taken our whole democracy for granted. i think we have assumed because it existed for 250 years it will just simply continue to exist. we know the threats. we know that it has failed in other countries, and i'm afraid it's going to fail here. second tonight before i did this interview, i was -- this woman comes up to me with a bright light, shining it in my face, asking me damning questions as i'm trying to hold a conference about someone who just died. we lost our sense of decency, our sense of civility, our sense of respect to human beings. and, third, and this is my message to not just the republicans in the house but to all members of congress. we used to celebrate team work, whether it's in sports or

working together side by side to get the job done. now they seem to celebrate individuality where it is my right to do what i want and i don't give a damn what you want. i look at these three threats to democracy. they all concern me and they're all happening right now in the speakership battle. >> frank, first, i'm very sorry to hear about the loss of life and the memorial service you will be hosting. i'm sorry that experience happened and obviously the loss of the person that obviously meant something to you. i am thinking about how long you have known mccarthy and just thinking about -- you led with the word "empathy." for many people the term and the word "humiliation" is rolling off the tongue as easy as any other. the ego bruise.

i'm wondering. you have known him for a long time. how do you think all of this is impacting him, especially given this is some pretty targeted statements against him. there's been more than snark. there has been really deriding him and denigration. i wonder how you think he is receiving all of this. >> i refer to him as a happy warrior in that he listens. he learns. he engages. he negotiates. i don't think this is as embarrassing as you might expect. he has the ability to bring people together in a way most politicians can't or don't want to. i think that is so essential right now in this environment of resentment and polarization and how toxic it is. i see kevin as the perfect

example of someone who can get the job done because everyone has a voice. everyone is a participant. i have never heard it, never, in 29 years complain about his situation or his lot in life. he's the child of a fireman. this is why we got connected in the first place. his father and my father died within a year of each other. kevin has always done the one thing that you never hear about politicians in washington ever. he's been humble. you always hear about pride. i'm proud that i brought this to my constituents. i'm proud i achieved that. you don't hear that from kevin mccarthy. it's humility. it's the way he grew up and it is the way he is. if there is anyone that can survive this, kevin can. >> that does paint a picture of why he's able to endure what many people perceive as this situation. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. it's an honor.

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today that hamlin was resuscitated only that one time on the field. and president biden is saying today that he spoke at length with damar's parents. joining me now is bob costas. good to see you and good to know there is some improvement. although, he does remain in critical condition. there has been some back and forth as to what that condition is. but i wonder what you make of the way this is being handled by the league and the way that the improvement has been relayed. >> well, i think people need to be optimistic but cautiously optimistic, so i have no criticism about the way information such as it is has been relayed to the public. this is still an ongoing situation. and there was some hesitation about whether they would continue the game or not. but that was as they were gathering information. and a lot of that decision-making was certainly influenced by the coaches and players in cincinnati, but back

in new york, roger goodell and troy aikman and the people at the players' association are being briefed. it took a while to have a final decision they would not play the game. it seems to me obvious now since this is the coming final weekend of the regular season, they might have had a chance to make up this game earlier in the season when the teams have bye weeks, but they are not going to replay this game under any circumstances. the bengals and bills will play 16 games. the others will play 17 and they will seed the playoffs based on winning percentage rather than total victories. that is important but it is still noteworthy. >> one of the things we talked about on monday night was the remaining who were critical of football as a sport, the danger in relation to concussions, cte and monday, paralysis in some instances. now, this situation we're seeing, we haven't heard from the medical team but the opining

people are giving is the idea it's usually more seen in projectile sports. but i want you to listen in to what the president of the united states is now weighing in and talking to the parents. listen to what the president has had to say about that umbrella of danger you have spoken about. >> the idea that you're going to have -- you got guys that are 6'8", 340 pounds running a 4.8 40. i mean, you know, hit somebody with that kind of force -- now, that's not what happened here, but i just think it's -- i don't know how you avoid it. i think working like hell on the helmets and the concussion protocols, that all makes a lot of sense, but it's -- you know, it is dangerous. you got to just acknowledge it.

>> now, bob, you did not see this initially as an indictment overall of the sport. >> no. >> but you have said often it is a sport that can only be made safer, not safe. given the president's words, do you still agree? >> yes. yes. and if you are talking about brain trauma, if you are talking about spinal cord injuries or you are talking about the large number of players that have aches and pains and hip replacements and knee replacements and difficulty of getting out of bed in the morning because of the attrition of playing this sport, yeah, you can put all of that on football. but when you talk about this one particular instance, it is very rare overall when you think of the millions and millions of tackles and football as it's played throughout the country over the course of the year and millions and millions of batted balls and pucks in hockey, this is exceedingly rare. but statistically, the medical information and the experts have told us that to the extent it

happens it is more likely to happen in projectile sports like baseball, hockey and lacrosse. but that doesn't take football off the hook for the other circumstances we have mentioned. and watching this brings those circumstances to mind. over the last 48 hours, the most poignant thing i have heard -- of course none of us can read and hear everything when so many people are focussing on this and the most poignant thing i heard came on monday night, was talking with salom. and he said this, i played football so that my boys would not have to play football. many players come from relatively disadvantaged backgrounds. there is a lot of money. sometimes it and the shared experience. no one is sliding that.

but there's often a price to pay. an salon, a very bright man, who obviously loved football in a certain sense, will not let his sons play football. that's just a fact. >> the price of the attempt at generational wealth, a poignant topic indeed. bob costas, thank you so much. >> thank you, laura. >> there has been a major decision from the fda, allowing pharmacies to dispense abortion pills to people who have a prescription. what it means for tens of millions of women across the country and how long until, you know what's coming. this is challenged in court. we'll talk about it, next.

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