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kaitlan, hopefully some news you have that's going to change things, get this over with. >> no announcement of a speaker yet, sorry, don and poppy, but there is reporting that there is going to be a 10:15 a.m. conference call with republicans. it's notable that it's not in-person that they're going to be meeting talk about this but they will have a call to see what the next steps are. one of the things that david valadao the republican we spoke with that stood out to me is they want to see a good look at what was happening in these negotiations with the hardliners of what that's going to look like and whether or not it will get kevin mccarthy closer to holding the speaker's gavel. >> i think he wants to show momentum at the very least at this point. >> yeah. >> an end to it, a speaker, would be nice. >> come home. see you monday. great job.
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>> we will see. >> all that coverage, kaitlan, thank you. >> we will see you on monday. >> thanks, everyone, for hanging out with us this week. have a good safe weekend. we will see you monday. "cnn newsroom" is now. ♪ very good friday morning to you. no break from the news in sight yet, i'm jim sciutto. >> yeah, it is quite a friday, it's been quite a week, i'm erica hill. at this hour on capitol hill the standoff continues over who will be the next house speaker. we are entering the fourth day here and there is no clear end in sight. kevin mccarthy once again failing to get the votes he needed, failing for the 11th time on thursday. that hasn't happened in 164 years. afterwards, though, mccarthy telling reporters he's -- you know, he's going to be here. buckle up. >> no, no, i'm not going to need a timeline. i just think we have progress going on, we have members
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talking. i think we've got a little movement so we'll see. >> so we'll see. mccarthy allies and hardliner holdouts negotiating once again late into the night on thursday. talks continuing this morning and soon house republicans set to hold a conference call as they continue to try to figure out a deal. >> break out the boxing analogies, we're going 12 rounds at least. plus, stunning new revelations in the brutal murders of four idaho college students, the suspect located around the house where the murders took place at least 12 times leading up to the attacks. a detailed timeline of the minutes surrounding the killings and how one surviving roommate came face-to-face with the killer who was masked after hearing cries from another room. i spoke with the father of one of the victims, kaylee goncalves. listen to what he had to say. >> i feel like he's scared to look at me in the eyes and start to understand what's about to
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happen to him. you know, he picked the wrong family and i'm not scared of a conflict and we're not scared, we're not running. we are coming at him. >> a grieving father, but i will tell you, he's defiant. we will have the full interview just ahead. first, we do have this news just into cnn, some good economic news, the u.s. economy added 223,000 jobs in december, that number a bit better than expected. >> cnn chief business correspondent christine romans is here to tell us what it really means. so as jim always reminds us and rightfully so you tell us to look at the trend. so the trend here is an economy that's showing resilience in the face of these jumping interest rates but is that the full story? >> the full story here is it's robust, it's resilient, it's strong, but it's cooling a little bit and that's what everybody wants to see. the goldilocks scenario, not too hot, not too cool, showing signs that the fed's medicine is starting to work. 223,000 net new jobs added, look, guys, that is very clear
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here, this is the smallest number of new jobs created s december 2020. in any other time 220,000 jobs would be enough to be screaming from the rooftops that this was a strong economy. the unemployment rate a new 50-year low here at 3.5% matching a number we have hit in the past. and then here is where the sectors are, pretty broad based except for places like professional business services saw some losses there, tech obviously is where you're seeing some of the layoffs, but in hospitality, health care, construction and manufacturing still seeing broad-based gains outside of those headline areas where you've been hearing some trouble. bottom line, 4.5 million jobs created in the year. that is a whole boat load of jobs. the second most robust year in american history for job creation. so a very strong 2022 showing signs of cooling a bit at the end, wages up 4.6%, sounds great. that's down a little bit.
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wage growth starting to show, again, signs that the fed's medicine is working. that's why wall street is up, thinking this is a goldilocks report. >> thank you. all right. now back to capitol hill where the news keeps coming. the battle for the house speaker headed to that 12th round in the ring, 12 votes. cnn's lauren fox joins us now. lauren, mccarthy has arrived for another day of negotiations. what did he have to say? >> reporter: yeah, day four, vote 12 coming up. we expect around noon today. and the expectation is we will learn a lot more after this 10:15 republican conference call. kevin mccarthy arriving on the hill just a few moments ago, telling my colleague nicki robertson, quote, we're going to make progress. we're going to shock you. the question, what is he going to tell members at this 10:15 call? is there some kind of deal that has been brokered with those remaining holdouts, the 20 or so
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members? is that any agreement just going to pull all of them along? is it just going to pull a handful of them along? remember, one of the question marks here has been even with these concessions can he get some of these hardliners who have vowed to be never kevin, never voting for kevin mccarthy, one of them bob good telling me yesterday i never needed to ask him again if he supported kevin mccarthy because he never was going to. so a lot riding on this 10:15 call today and we will know a lot more after that. jim and erica? >> we will be watching and waiting for any of those details. we know you will bring them to us. lauren, appreciate it. joining us to discuss margaret talev and paul kaine columnist for the "washington post." good to see you both this morning. paul, i was struck by your piece overnight where you point out -- and i think this is a really important discussion we have been having -- there's been so much given away by kevin mccarthy, what's left here? french hill told jim yesterday there's been a lot of give and
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take. do you see any take tore kevin mccarthy? it seems like nothing but give. >> yeah, that's the troubling factor for mccarthy is he has given away a lot of concessions already to these sort of the radical right and he has yet to show anything -- show any gains in terms of those 20 to 21 who are opposing him right now. so he's giving away a lot. there are obscure rules changes that mostly reviewers don't want me hear me go into but they are really important in terms of the functioning of congress. he could end up getting there. he still might get the votes to become speaker, but he might be just completely dis embodying the power of the office in order to get there so that he might really not be able to do much, whether he or whoever becomes the next speaker >> margaret talev, don bacon, moderate republican congressman said yesterday that the deal
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will move some, but not all of the holdouts, then you have this other pressure point which is moderates like don bacon aren't happy with all the concessions being made. is there a time limit here? i mean, if this latest deal doesn't put mccarthy over the top, is that the last round of this or do they just try again? >> they can play this out as long as the core group that's around him, the majority of the republican party, is willing to stick with him, though the problem and the question for the entire republican party becomes if they hit the wall with kevin mccarthy and they have to go to a plan b, steve scalise or whoever it is do all of these concessions carry over and apply? is the next guy just as weakened. the longer this goes on you hearter start to hear david valadao early this morning saying essentially this is becoming a proxy battle. it's not just about mccarthy it's a proxy for whether somewhere between 5 and 20 republicans can be the tail that wags the dog and brings everything to a standstill.
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i think, you know, in talking with historians over the last couple days these two other moments in time that we have looked back to, 1923, the last time there was a real protracted battle and 1855 when it stretched into a new year, look at what came after those periods of time. the civil war, an extended period of american isolation. kevin mccarthy has said that it doesn't matter how it begins, it matters how it ends, but i think the way this ends is not the end, it is just the beginning of what the next two years are going to look like and that's the real issue. it's not whether kevin mccarthy is seeker, it's whether anyone can be house speaker in this new republican majority effectively. >> and especially if this rules package is agreed to. paul, correct me if i'm wrong, i mean, look, there is a chance here that kevin mccarthy could get those votes he needs and become speaker, but potentially the rules package does not get enough support. >> yes, that is -- that is a possibility. because you first have to vote for speaker and then the speaker
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swears in the whole rest of the house of representatives and then you vote on the rules package. yes, you could have moderate republicans take down that rule package, but then because of -- like they would probably try to vacate the speaker position at that point and, you know, you would be dealing in bad faith and it would further undermine mccarthy in a way that would just be really dissettling. >> margaret, i know the idea of republicans working with democrats on some sort of consensus candidate, a more moderate republican, perhaps even mccarthy with some concessiones is something of an outlier but last night i spoke with another republican lawmaker after don bacon said on the air earlier this week that that's a possibility who said we could be open to that. is that -- does that remain an outlier if this deal doesn't come through or might that be a surprise? >> i mean, it is kind of right there for the taking, right?
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the idea that mccarthy and other republicans have no other options but to negotiate with the rebels isn't true. they have the option to make a power sharing arrangement of some kind with democrats. not clear whether mccarthy can do that or whether democrats would demand someone else. the problem for kevin mccarthy, the problem for republicans is that even in this moment's context the democrats are seen so much more as the enemy politically than this core band that it could blow everything up, the whole thing could unravel, this he could end up with a much further right speaker if they can't hold together enough republicans to make a deal like that. i think that's why we haven't seen that really take off yet. >> interesting. has happened in some state h houses, look at pennsylvania. >> kevin mccarthy said we're going to make progress, it's going to shock you. what do you think that progress could be? are they really going to peel off enough votes? >> first of all, he needs to just show enough momentum that he gets more votes than hakeem
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jeffries, the democratic minority leader who keeps getting 212 votes. they voted so many times now that hakeem jeffries has now received more votes in history for speaker than nancy pelosi did because they've gone 11 rounds. >> right. >> you know, i'm old enough to remember when heavyweight fights went 15 rounds, so maybe we'll get there today. >> yeah. >> but he has to show progress and get ahead of hakeem jeffries and isolate the last four or five votes and then pick them off one by one. >> i said the boxing analogies were coming and there they are. right there. thank you, paul kane. mar margaret talev, thanks to both of. >> you pulling no punches there, jim. i like it. it is friday. this morning lawmakers also preparing on a much more somber note to mark two years since the january 6th attack on the capitol. next hour they are holding a ceremony. we are going to bring that ceremony to you live. >> it's remarkable to think that
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was two years ago. several protests are also expected. u.s. capitol police are increasing security both on capitol hill, also at the supreme court we should note as a result. paula reid joins us now. so, paula, you know, this has been an issue since january 6, beefing up security there. what new security is in place today to prevent something like this from happening again? >> jim, it's all hands on deck. they have learned so much from what happened two years ago and everything that's been uncovered and the various investigations and they really have a new way to approach activity that is protected by the first amendment that could potentially turn violent. and we know today they are ramping up their protocols, monitoring online chatter. they have additional units on stand by in case they're needed and that includes also coordinating with nearby counties for additional resources if they're needed. we also have new reporting from our colleague whitney wild, she has reviewed a capitol police memo that shows they are going to be monitoring several
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protests on capitol hill today. it's interesting because these protests are by people from various parts of the political spectrum. there are some people who believe that the attack on the capitol was justified and there was fraud in the election. there are other people who are arguing and marking that that was an attack on democracy. so it's real interesting to see how this is playing out. it's showing how they're operating in an abundance of caution. >> trying to correct a lot of the issues that were looked at right after january 6. quickly because the supreme court as we mentioned also considered under threat. what are they doing there? >> it's a great example of this almost overreacting. there is a long shot petition today arguing that the 2020 election was fraudulent. it's not even likely to be heard, jim, it was dismissed at the lower level, the solicitor general didn't even respond but they are also monitoring that because of what could potentially happen. so a new day, a new approach. >> goodness. paula reid, thanks so much. please stay with us next hour, we have a lot of news here. coming up next, my interview with the father of one of those four idaho college students murdered in their home. kaylee goncalves, steve
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goncalves, her gadd, had his first chance to try to look their alleged killer in the eye yesterday. what he said about that experience. also new revelations, lots of them, in the court documents. also ahead here this morning, encouraging news about the recovery of buffalo bills star damar hamlin who reportedly asked one of the first questions he asked was whether his team won the game on monday night. you will hear more about his recovery and doctors' response to that question. plus ukrainian soldiers attending orthodox christmas services in kyiv as russia claims it is observing a ceasefire but cnn teams on the front lines have already seen artillery fire this morning. was hiring local talent. if i knew about upwork. i would haveve hired actually talented people from all over the world. instead of talentless people from all over my house. age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss. and if you're taking a multivitamin alone,
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laosly cleaned his car inside and out. was seen wearing surgical gloves jewett side his parents' home. then placed bags of garbage in the neighbors' trash bins. >> all of these details coming from that unsealed affidavit. new court documents with this detail including why officials linked kohberger to the murders, why, of course, this was their rang for their arrest warrant. veronica miracle is live in moscow, idaho, this morning. so walk us through that evidence and how they see this connection, veronica. >> reporter: well, jim and erica, there is just so many details to get through, so many, but i'm going to highlight some key points here and one of the most startling revelations, i think, that came out of that affidavit is that one of the surviving roommates, police say, actually saw the suspect in the house. so all of this activity happening around 4:00 in the morning and that surviving
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roommate says she was woken up because she had heard activity, somebody playing with a dog, she had heard some noises, and according to police they were actually able to see that xana kernodle was awake around 4:00 in the morning because they saw activity on her tiktok. it was around this time when the surviving roommate was awoken that she had heard -- she had opened the door a couple of times just to kind of see what was going on, didn't see anything, but then she heard crying coming from xana kernodle's room, police say, and she also heard a voice apparently that said something to the effect of it's okay, i'm going to help you. when she heard that crying she opened the door and that's when police say she saw a figure in dark clothing and a mask walk past her and then kept on walking, just walked out the sliding glass door, and it was at that time that she was in a frozen shock phase. there's a big question as to why no one called 911 until eight
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hours later at noon. that question remains unanswered. in the documents it also says that kohberger's dna obtained from trash at the family home was similar to dna left on a tan leather knife sheath that was left on one of the victim's beds, and also phone records suggest that kohberger's phone was in the area of the crime scene at least 12 times between june and present day and they also suggest that phone was in the area of the crime scene hours after they believe those murders were committed. now, full page was redacted from that affidavit so it's unclear still about a motive and any connection between bryan kohberger and these victims. jim, erica? >> veronica miracle, thanks so much. >> well, after the release of that affidavit i sat down and spoke with steve goncalves, he is the father of one of the victims, kaylee goncalves. he was defiant, still grieving. here is what he said it was like
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to see the suspect in court face-to-face. >> steve, you know, there's so much of what has to be just upsetting information seeing this arrest affidavit now. my first question is, as always, just how are you and your family doing? >> well, it's a bit of a narrative change. you go from hunting, hunting, looking, poking, like you always see these shows where it's somebody that you know, somebody close, somebody you trust. i had a hard time with that because kaylee was so kind to people. she was ornery to her brothers and sisters, but for all outwards appearances she was a very, very nice person. we were puzzled by, you know -- we just wouldn't -- weren't ready for a bully story or something along those lines.
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so you read the affidavit and you just find out that nobody understands exactly why, but he was stalking them, he was hunting them, he was just a person looking for an opportunity and it just happened to be in that house. it's hard to take. it's very hard to take. you know, i've said this before, i thought maybe i should have put her in some gun safety courses, have done something, but she had her phone right next to her and she couldn't call 911, so these were just girls that went to sleep that night and a coward, you know, hunter that went out and he picked his little opponent that was girls and that's probably why the house was targeted was because there was just girls there and it ended up being a little bit more of a different challenge, different instance, he wasn't
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prepared for, but i think that's what the affidavit shows is somebody who was stalking the house. >> goodness. yeah, that's one thing that stood out to me, the idea that his cellphone information showed he had been in the area of the house at least 12 times before. do you believe kohberger was stalking your daughter in particular or just the house itself and all the folks living there? >> no, i don't think it was kaylee in particular. there's other details that will come out later on, but i've always said this to maddy's mother and her father that does it really matter? i don't know. maybe in the case it does, but to us none of these girls deserved this. i don't want a parent to think that -- you know, to feel even worse when you go through this to think that, oh, my girl said something that caught him off
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guard and then these other people are just a part of that. that's a cancer inside you and i'm not going to let that happen. i'm going to try to keep my family from thinking anything like that. the real problem we have is we have an individual that thought it was okay to, you know, attack other human beings. that's what i'm going to focus on. >> of course. and then that's got to be just a brutal thought to live with. was there any sense -- have you been told if there was any contact between kohberger and them prior to this, or was he just surveilling them from afar? >> i don't have any pinpoint information that i can share that would say that they were directly in contact. there's definitely rumor mills out there that say that there's going to be more information. we can almost guarantee that there's going to be more details that are going to be brought in. i would be a little bit surprised if there wasn't a
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clear touch point that would suggest that he was interested in one or two of the people more than he was the others, but at this point in time we have -- we have enough in that affidavit to believe that this defendant has a lot to explain. >> yeah. no question. he's of course innocent until proven guilty, nature of our justice system. >> i agree. >> have investigators shared with you any indication as to a possible motive? >> no, we haven't got down that -- i know that i'm supposed to be doing an interview with them, shannon is putting that together and coordinating that. so that may be something that comes up, but they're very careful and i've told them don't tell me something that puts me in a situation where i may disclose something that could
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hurt the case. >> also in the affidavit it says that the roommate, surviving roommate, identified just by the kmis initials dm. says she heard crying coming from one of the rooms, saw a man dressed in black with a mask on walk past here. do we know why police were not called until several hours after that? s>> we don't have those details. i do know that she was petrified and i think people respond a little bit different. i don't want to make her a victim and i don't -- people are mean, they will go after people and i say don't do it, my name, my family name. i think she was just scared. very scared and it's not like where everyone behaves like people think they would.
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eventually we will get all the details and we will understand a little bit more. >> i get it. >> it's probably going to be -- >> petrified is the right word, i can understand. i do want to ask you before we go you were in court, you had the chance to see kohberger, perhaps to look him in the eyes. what were you feeling at that moment? >> i was pretty angry. i was pretty heated. i wanted him to look me in the eye. he knows i want him to look me in the eye so he's -- he didn't. he didn't give me that opportunity when he was back in his home state of pennsylvania, he did turn around and look for his parents and not me, he didn't give me that. so i think he understands that i'm not going to see something in his eyes that i want to see, you know. i want to see an innocent man, but i feel like he's scared to look at me in the eyes and start to understand what's about to
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happen to him. you know, he picked the wrong family and i'm not scared of a conflict and we're not scared -- we're not running. we are coming at him and the defendant has his hands full. >> did you sense anything from him, any emotion in that moment, in that courtroom? >> i did. i sensed somebody shocked and scared and not prepared. like almost like this is nothing like i thought it was going to be. so his mannerisms, his body language -- i'm pretty in tune with certain guys, i played sports my whole life, i've been in different gyms, i've been in conference rooms with white collar. i can sense confidence and i did not sense that at all. i sensed somebody who was flaring, scared and worried. >> i tell you, erica, i've been speaking with steve for a number
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of weeks now and i sense -- you could see it there, you sense exhaustion. of course, we would be having lost a child that way, but also this was the first time i sensed really more resolve there. i think what came across to me is you heard him say there, he picked the wrong family. the suspect picked the wrong family. that there is a path to justice here, right, that he was expressing, but still heartbreak. the way he described it, that his view is that this guy was hunting -- hunting those victims. >> and to hear him talk about, you know -- we know as parents, but to imagine as a parent to hear him say my daughter had her phone right there and she couldn't even call 911. how helpless he must feel. i was also just really struck by his empathy and his grace and i think, again, just a testament to him as a parent. when you asked him the question a lot of people have about the roommate who according to the affidavit was home, saw the --
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who we believe was the suspect, right, but then there were no calls for eight hours and him just saying, look, this is not a movie. this is just, you know, you have to try to put yourself in that moment. >> yeah. >> i think it just speaks to -- speaks to who he is. >> good for him for saying that. as he said, petrified. this is a girl just out of her teenage years who witnessed -- just you can imagine the fear in that moment. anyway, we will keep on the story. a lot more to come. >> yeah. a great interview, jim. up next here, the remarkable progress for the buffalo bills damar hamlin. what doctors are now saying about his recovery and what they need for a full assessment of where he is in this moment. we're going to take you live to buffalo. dr. sanjay gupta also with us next. when it does, , aspen dental is here for you. we offer the custom dental treatments you need, all l under one roof, right nearby. so we cacan bring more life to your smile...
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well, this morning cnn obtained just remarkable new audios of the moment that buffalo bills safety damar hamlin collapsed, showing how urgent the emergency response was, responders rushed to save hamlin after that monday night football game where he collapsed with a cardiac arrest. >> go ahead and go over to the cot. i don't like how he went down. >> we're going to need everybody. all call. all call. we need everybody. >> we need a doctor, everybody. the medics, all of you and get woods out here. >> well, that tape underscored the relief hamlin's family,
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teammates and fans felt in the last 24 hours as he has now regained consciousness. he cannot yet speak because he is still on a ventilator but is writing to communicate. his first question was did we win? his doctor responded, you've won the game of life. >> for more now let's bring in cnn sports anchor and former bills safety coy wire and cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. good to see you both this morning. talk about so much emotion that we have seen from this team and even from the family of damar hamlin in the last 24 hours or so. the response, coy, has really been something. >> so much emotion, erica. being around those players yesterday, though, they were glowing knowing that their teammate is progressing though you can still see this heaviness, but one person helping them through this, hair head coach sean mcdermott. this team and city has been rocked by a deadly mass shooting, deadly snowstorm and now a teammate nearly dying on the field in front of them. coach has been a pillar of
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strength. maybe the most significant impact, though, giving his players the power, the choice to not continue playing that game monday night, considering their mental health. i asked team captain mitch morris about that unprecedented decision. listen. >> yeah, i just think there's no way in hell that we were ready to go out there and play a game. you know, even if there were just a few guys who weren't ready to play, to play this game, as you know, where you have to be mentally to be on the field, not only for yourself and your well-being but for others around you, it just would have done a disservice to everyone. >> the rest of the nfl was watching, how the buffalo bills, coach sean mcdermott, are leading. college, high school, youth players and coaches, they're watching. we can't yet quantify how
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powerful that decision was and in just over 48 hours or so they're going to step on to that field against division rivals new england patriots to show damar hamlin who is still fighting for his life, that they are fighting for him. >> dr. gupta, so much great news in the last 24 hours, right? he is awake, he is communicating. we did hear more from the hospital physician yesterday in effect about his status and also what happens next. have a listen because i want to get your reaction. >> he is still on the ventilator, that does require still a little bit of sedation to make sure he's comfortable being on the ventilator it's not the most comfortable thing. that in fairness to damar has not been fully assessed in terms of even his awareness of everything that has happened in the last three days. that will come more as we have better assessment. >> so, sanjay, how does this type of recovery typically work and what better assessments are they talking about there?
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>> yeah, what he's describing, if you had to put a tone on it is being cautiously optimistic. he still is critically ill and sometimes the recovery can be a little bit of a roller coaster so you can have good days and bad days and these things do play out over days and even weeks as opposed to hours and days. so you have to sort of widen the aperture of time here, but the other sorts of tests, one of the important ones that he talked about was assessing his neurological function. someone goes without oxygenated blood for a period of time, how did that affect the brain? was there an injury to the spinal cord? thankfully it sounds like the answer to both of those questions is no. he's able to communicate, as you say, he's moving his hands and his heat. that's a great sign. impact on other organs, kidneys, liver, that will be assessed over time. i think what he was responding to specifically was about a concussion and i think the point the doctors were making was that, you know, he's still sedated because he is still on a
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breathing tube and to assess for specific things like concussion that can take a while. but, look, two and a half days after the injury is when that press conference took place and that was -- it was a significantly optimistic look at things. i mean, you know, just the day before he was still lying on his chest because they were having trouble actually oxygenating him. so it was good news, as you point out, all around yesterday. >> yeah. really good news and so well-received and we know there is still so much good energy flowing his way, coy, sanjay, good to see you both. thank you. all right. still ahead, despite a so-called ceasefire by russia in ukraine, the air raid sirens, they're still sounding throughout the capital. we will go to kyiv live next. . get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium.
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this morning ukrainian soldiers are oakman orthodox christmas this as the russian president vladimir putin has called for a ceasefire through the holiday, however, cnn teams on the ground say that ceasefire is not sticking. they've witnessed incoming and outgoing artillery on the front lines in just the last few hours. >> cnn's scott mclean is in kyiv this morning. air raid sirens have been sounding today. ukraine didn't agree to this ceas ceasefire. we've heard about some fire. what else are you learning? >> reporter: yeah, this ceasefire agreement was essentially doomed from the get-go because the ukrainians never signed on to it, never agreed to it, it is for all intents and purposes business as usual on the front lines in ukraine and frankly in the rest
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of the country as well. president volodymyr zelenskyy said that this was just russians taking advantage of a potential ceasefire to get troops closer to the front lines, to resupply the front lines, perhaps get better positioning along the front lines and they weren't going to allow that to happen. and the russians also made abundantly clear that this was not a free pass for the ukrainians, either. they said if they were fired on they would fire back and they also said that ukrainians wouldn't be allowed to simply improve their position on the battlefield, that they would also strike in that case as well. so given that the ukrainians were treating this as any other day, it was doomed to fail from the get-go and that is what we're seeing on the front lines. even a couple hours into the ceasefire supposedly beginning the air raid sirens as you mentioned went off in kyiv and across the country. that doesn't necessarily mean there was a missile incoming, but certainly a lot of ukrainians here rolled their eyes and thought i told you so.
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in fact, i was at a church service earlier today for soldiers led by the head of the orthodox church of ukraine and i interviewed him briefly afterwards and after hearing the sirens he said, look, we don't trust what the russians said. just look at the air raid sirens coming in. they say that there can -- he said that there can only be peace in this country if the russians get out of ukraine. jim, erica? >> scott mclean in kyiv, thanks so much. up next, a major win for abortion rights advocates in south carolina. the state supreme court blocking that state's six-week abortion ban. so what's next for the laws there? stay with us. you can be the difference. cacapella university sees education differently. our flexpath learning format lets you earn your bachelor's degree at yourur pace. ♪ ♪ ♪
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and there were risks to the life of the mother and in some cases of rape or incest. >> jessica schneider joins us live now with the details. this is really interesting. you were saying in the break, state supreme court word on this is final in the state of south carolina. >> it is. the takeaway here is that this can't be appeal and that south carolina actually now must allow abortions up until 22 weeks. it is one of the other southern states allowing that much time so there is no path to appeal here since this was a matter of state constitutional law. this was decided by the state's highest court. there is no avenue to appeal. it did not invoke federal law. the governor here, republican henry mcmaster saying they're going to look at legislative options to try to bring this six-week ban back or some semblance of it back. but given the state supreme court's ruling here this could be a tough road. the ruling was 3-2 and the
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majority of the court rules in particular that state's constitution right to privacy prohibits this abortion ban in the early stage of pregnancy, about six weeks, way before many women even realize that they are pregnant. so the court here said that the state may be able to limit abo abortion in in sense. but said any such limitation must be reasonable and meaningful in that the time frame must afford a woman sufficient time to determine she is pregnant and to take reasonable steps to terminate that pregnancy. so saying that six weeks is just too early here. the two justices said they have the ultimate authority when to ban abortion and not the court. so a 3-2 split. and given what the governor said and the state a.g., they're going to go back to the state legislature and try to work out some other law here and ban abortion a bit past six weeks or
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allow for more exceptions. here so it is probably in the state legislature's hands but the takeaway is that abortion is legal in south carolina up until 22 weeks right now. >> interesting precedent on privacy as relevant. thank you so much. coming up next, we're going to -- about a to capitol hill where mother major day is unfolding amid kevin mccarthy's quest for speaker of house. lawmakers are also making the second anniversary, if you could believe it, of the january 6 insurrection. we're going to mark it moments from now. we'll have it all live coming up. i would have hired actually talented people from all over the world. instead of talentless people from a all over my house.
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