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anniversary of the january 6 insurrection. and then a few hours later president biden will honor 12 people at the white house including police officers injured in the capitol attack. we'll take to you both events live. also just a few moments from now, house republicans set to hold a conference call as the standoff over who will be house speaker continues. this, of course, after kevin mccarthy failed to get the votes needed after three days and 11 rounds of votes. mccarthy allies continuing to negotiate with the hardliner holdouts. the situation fluid but mccarthy remains confident this morning. >> we're going to get it done. >> let's go straight to correspondent manu raju live there on capitol hill. so, this meeting, just about 15 minutes from now as i understand it, it is about to begin. where do the negotiations stand going into that meeting, manu?
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>> reporter: well this is a critical moment for kevin mccarthy because he needs to demonstrate that the deal-cutting going on behind the scenes for last couple of days has yielded progress and so far we have not seen support moving in his direction. he needs to only lose four republican votes on the floor to become the next speaker of the house. he's lost 20 so far. so where will he -- where will this deal that has close to being reached ultimately lead him. now this conference call will occur at about 10:15 a.m. eastern time. mccarthy and his team will lay out what will be reached for the handful of holdouts to give them more sway over the legislative process, to influence things going forward. the ability to oust a sitting speaker by having one member call for such a vote. >> sorry to interrupt. we do want to go to capitol hill now because lawmakers are gathering on the steps of the
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capitol to hold a ceremony marking two years, the second anniversary of the january 6 insurrection when we saw all of the hundreds of people violently assault the capitol building. let's listen in on the lawmakers as they take a moment to mark the day. stand by there. it looks like they're waiting for members to assemble on the steps there. you could see them still walking down behind the podium for this moment. hard to believe, erica, it has been two years since we saw the violent attack on the capitol. >> it is. >> and you could see in the front row there, many members of leadership, including the now former speaker nancy pelosi there on the left. >> that is right.
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we know it was organized by the house democratic leadership. all house members were invited we're told. we should point out here in the studio is former police chief and the author of "courage under fire", it is good to have you here. we were just talking in the break and asking you how you feel in this moment two years later? >> it is a very tough day. i sit back and look back on it and i would take the opportunity to say thank you, because i've had capitol police reaching out. i am with you today. love you, stay safe and keep up t the good fight and the work. to see what my officers went through that day was heart praeking for a chief. i just hope it never happens again. >> what would you like to hear from leaders in washington today? >> a lot of people ask me how
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the capitol police learned their lesson, the big question is those that have oversight over the capitol police department learned their lesson. it is too political. they have these different political games and the chief -- the police officers get caught in the middle. they need to stop politicizing oversight. oversight should be above the police department. it should be hands in -- hands on operation. they should let the chief do his job and not put the police in the middle of political fighting. >> you see as we're watching here, that is hakeem jeffries behind the podium, the democratic leader. let's listen in as he marks the moment. >> good morning. please welcome me in a pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisibility with liberty and just for all.
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>> today members of the house of representatives in a bipartisan way pause in solemn recognition of the violent attack on the capitol that occurred two years ago on january 6, 2021. we are joined by the families of several heroic police officers who gave their lives protecting the congress, the constitution, and the country. we are gathered lhere to honor their memorial and honor with deep gratitude the bravery of the hundreds of officers who defended us at this citadel of democracy that fateful day. as a result of the events on january 6, the lives of five heroic officers were lost. another brave capitol police officer lost his life defending the capitol on april 2nd, 2021.
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140 officers were seriously injured that day. many more will forever be scarred by the blood thirsty violence of the insurrectionist mob. we stand here today with our democracy in tact because of those officers. [ applause ] the violent insurrectionist stormed the capitol and attempted to halt the peaceful transfer of power. a cornerstone of our republic. they failed. they failed because of the bravery and valor of the united states capitol police and the metropolitan police department officers who fought heroically to defend our democracy.
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we will never forget their sacrifice and we will never forget this day. it is now my honor to yield to our speaker who led the house of representatives on that fateful day with strength, courage, and resilience, nancy dell asand row pelosi. >> thank you very much, mr. leader. thank you for having your first official public act be one to be a moment of reflection, a time of reflection and gratitude to our heroes. i associate myself with all of our colleagues gathered here with your remarks and in singing their praises. the january 6 insurrection shook our republic to the core. for many in the congress and across our country, the physical, psychological and emotional scars are still raw.
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yet from the unspeakable horror spreading extraordinary heroism, law enforcement heroes confronted the insurrectionist to protect the capitol, the congress, and our constitution. and it is with great respect and admiration that we are joined by the families this morning. thank you to the families for considering us worthy to share your grief, to honor your loss. when we had the gold medal ceremony, the highest honor the congress can bestow, i said at that time your acceptance of that gold medal in honor of your family member's courage brought luster to the medal. we always pray for god to bless america. and he certainly did with the heroism of these heroes. as we mark this solemn day, let
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us draw strength and inspiration from the timeless words of president lincoln. in his message to congress he offered in the heat of civil war, he said, we cannot escape history and he called upon congress to honor our sacred duty to nobly save our lose the last best hope on earth which he believed was american democracy. that is our task today, so help us god. and then now we will in short order hear from the families of our heroes. and we thank them for their sacrifice, for their patriotism, we will always carry the memory of their family members in our hearts. and our tribute is also to those who suffered psychologically and other wise protecting or democracy. i thank all of our colleagues for joining us here on the steps
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of the capitol. but we always carry this memory in our hearts. thank you. [ applause ] would you pray with me. god is our refuge and our strength and ever present help in trouble. though the earth should move, and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea, we will not fear. though as waters roar and foam and the mountains quake with their surging, there is a river whose streams make glad the city of god. almighty god, we know we are called to be still and to know that you are god and that you have hallowed this place with those who serve in both elected positions and those who have chosen to serve to defend the people, the building, and the
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purpose of this capitol. holy god, you have anointed this land with the blood of the fallen and the wounded and we ask now that as we honor those sacrifices, that we would recognize that you surround us, uphold us and in all of these things that seek to threaten us, in all of these things, may we always call on you knowing that you are our god and ever present and ever present in our times of trouble. we pray these things in your most holy name. amen. >> amen. >> now i invite the families and loved ones of the officers who are no longer with us to read thei r names.
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>> a closing of that ceremony there honoring, of course, remembering the secondary anniversary honoring those who were killed, who were injured. >> yeah. >> powerful words, jim, and powerful moments, too. i was struck by the announcement of the names, the tolling of that bell and it reminds me so much of what we see every year on the anniversary of 9/11 as we mark that fateful moment in this nation's history. so powerful and so powerful as well in those silent moments. >> no questions. seeing those little kids, march up to the microphone, and say that name. i did see democratic leadership there. i did not see republican leadership. we'll continue to cover events as they are marked throughout the day. we still have steven sund with
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us who was capitol hill police chief. you blamed intelligence failures, you blamed intelligence failures leading up to january 6 for lack of preparations. i wonder, how intelligence-gathering on potential threats to the capitol or to members and intelligence sharing, has that changed in the last two years to make something like this less likely to happen in the future? >> you certainly hope so. i can't say i'm completely convinced. when you look at the stuff that went on at dhs and i honestly believe that intelligence for january 6 seemed to be handled a little bit differently. i've handled a number of major events in washington, d.c. with far less threat streams against it and the fbi would have been doing intelligence briefings and doing executive briefing and at least a conference call. but no bulletin, no conference call. you hope they learned their
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loss lesson and follow the directions. i know capitol police have done restructuring to make sure the information gets into the hands that need it that make critical conditions. you hope the intelligence community does what they need to do. >> and there is so much of that, that should be rightfully be the focus, when looking at what has or has not been addressed. i was struck by the words from nancy pelosi in referencing president lincoln noting we cannot escape history and we've seen in this country, there could be a pretty broad effort sometimes to try to escape history. to try to ignore what happened, to sweep it under the rug. not to acknowledge it. do you feel that there is two years on enough of an acknowledgment of what happened in those moments. >> well that is part that i spent so much effort to write the book in a apolitical fact-based manner because so many things come out in d.c.
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with a political stance. because the republican j-6 committee report, we had to look at what really happened to effect and impact the department of defense, and the intelligent community and the oversight that creates such a political structure over the security of the capitol that it impacted january 6. that is why i wrote the book. do i think that some of the committees will -- i think they'll try to look at it and hopefully look at this and take some recommendations from it. but we just have to look at it from a apolitical standpoint. >> steven sund, thank you so much. as we look at that ceremony, our kristin wilson said there was one republican, brian fitzpatrick present, otherwise those present at that ceremony largely democrats. still to come, another story we're following this morning, chilling new details coming out about the suspect in the idaho killings. i had the chance to speak to the
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seen in pennsylvania wearing surgical gloves outside of his parents home and playing bags of garbage in the neighbor's trash bins there. >> all of this comes because officials unsealed the affidavit for probable cause allowing the arrest. detailing how officials linked kohberger to the murders. last night i spoke with steve goncalves, father of kaylee goncalves, and got his reaction to the news that his daughter's roommate came face-to-face according to that affidavit with the killer who she said was wearing black and a mask. >> do we know why police were not called until several hours after that? >> um, we don't have those details. i do know that she was petrified and i think people respond a little bit different.
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i don't want to make her a victim and people are mean. they'll go after people and i say don't do it in my name, not in my family name. i think she was just scared. very scared and it is not like hollywood where everyone behaves like people think they would. >> understandably scared. petrified he said. veronica miracle is in moscow, idaho. give us a sense of the new diehl tails that we learned from this affidavit. >> so much. just a massive amount of information, jim and erica. including some dna evidence that police say they found on the sheath of a knife that was left in one of the victim's beds. it was apparently lying next to one of the beds. police were also able to match that to some crash collected from the family home, as you mentioned, a source has told cnn that they were monitoring,
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police were -- authorities were monitoring the pennsylvania family home and they saw bryan kohberger around 4:00 a.m. taking garbage bags and placing them in the neighbor's bins and that was the father of bryan kohberger and a similar enough match to the sheath found on the bed. that is one keyite thaem we learned in addition to the roommate who also saw the suspect apparently, he was around 5'10" but with bushy eyebrows and his nose and mouth were covered in a mask and he was wearing all black and walked past her when she heard activity in the home and heard a voice saying something to the effect, i'm going to help you. coming from another room. we also understand that kohberger's cell phone activity placed him in the area of the home around 12 times from june
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until present day. and police also believe that cell phone activity shows that he actually may have gone back to the crime scene hours after the murder took place. jim and erica. >> veronica miracle with the latest for us. thank you. joining us now to talk about this, charles ramsey, long time head of the police departments in philadelphia as well as here in d.c. reading this affidavit yesterday, when it came out, chief ramsey, i have to say, i was shocked. it is chilling. some chilling details but the level of information they have connecting kohberger to this case including that his cell phone pinged in and around that house where the murders took place 12 times in the days leading up to it. also, other steps he seemed to take to -- it seems to turn off
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his phone, at other times that he came close to the house and then turning it back on. when you look at there and add in details that we learned about what he was studying as a criminology student, what kind of suspect are we looking at here. >> i think they have a strong case just based on that. at least circumstantial, they still don't have a murder weapon. be great if they find it. they may never find the murder weapon. but this is an event well-planned out. the fact that he was there several times, that he was turning his phone on and off because he was aware that cellular tracking could occur. and he cleaned his car multiple times after the fact, i'm sure they're still going through it with a fine tooth comb to find some trace evidence. his dna being found on the sheath that the knife was in. they have a good case here. and whereas he tried to be meticulous, sees himself as a being a smart guy and all of
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that sort of thing, but he wasn't that smart because he left behind quite a few clues. >> joey jackson is with us as well. to that point, we look at all of the evidence that we know about, and that is just what we know about and steven goncalves saying that the defendant has his hands full in his estimation as a defense attorney, youhow a you looking at this this morning? >> there is quite a bit to over come. there is no question about that. in many regards. number one, you have to attack the cell phone sort of pings that are very damaging with respect to putting him in the area not only the day and coming back, but all of the stalking that was done previous to that time. number two, you have to defeat and explain the dna issues as it relates to why would his dna by there. is there an innocent explanation that would attach him to that location. number three, there is apparently a footprint that they will be testing to determine whether or not it meets his
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shoe. number four, you have the identification as it relates to his eyebrows. there is just so many issues here with regard to -- that need to be explains and in the absence of an innocence explanation it becomes problematic. so how i would look at it from a defense perspective, it is a challenging case based upon the possible cause that was laidute in the affidavit. what is probable cause? reason to believe a crime was committed and that you committed it, the individual at issue. but based on that, boy, is it compelling and damning evidence. >> chief ramsey, one thing that is clear is that police were doing a lot of hard work, police and fbi gathering information pointing in the direction of kohberger fairly early on and during a period of time when folks -- i get this, understandably, were wondering what was happening and saying you're not sharing anything. do you even have a suspect and
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what are you doing, should we be scared but it was clear from the affidavit they were on to this guy for some time? >> yeah, it is as if they were on him for sometime. and i know people were upset they weren't sharing a lot of information. but you have to remember, bad guys watch television too. >> yeah. >> and so you have to hold things close to the vest during the course of an investigation. because you don't want all of that information to get out. if anything, i thought they talked too much at the very beginning. they have more than one spokesperson, you had the prosecutor making statements and the chief making statements. and then they had to pull information back when they said it was targeted and they had to walk it back. so you have to be very careful when you have cases like this. i know people want to know but your job is simple. it is to find the person responsible and put together a case that is prosecutable. >> and -- >> that is really the focus and that is the only focus. >> chief, one more for you.
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jon miller said this morning that most killers don't start off with a crime like this. he use the word efficiency to describe in his words this quadruple murder in the dark. would you agree that this does not have the hallmarks of a first crime for someone? >> well i mean, it is not typical. but you never know. i mean, they'll be a lot of individuals that will try to psycho analyze this particular individual to find out more about him. some of the things that he may have done in the past. it is unusual. i'll put it that way. to have someone start off with a quadruple homicide. even though it may not -- he may not have intended for it to be quadruple. i don't understand why he left the witness alive. i'm glad he did. but normally in a case like this, that is last thing a person would do if you've already committed four murders, five won't make that much difference. i'm not trying to sound harsh, but it is just a reality.
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so i don't know what he was thinking. i have absolutely no idea at all. >> charles ramsey and joey jackson, appreciate your insight. thank you, both. a somber day on capitol hill. as we remember the events of january 6. the investigation into that deadly insurrection reaching a new stage. just ahead we'll speak with elaine luria who was part of the house select committee and talk about where things stand now two years later. your pain and your doubt. ♪ heat m makes it last. so you'll nenever sit this one out. icy hot pro with 2 max-strengngth pain relievers. you didn't live this strong, this long to get put on the shelf like a porcelain doll. but one out of two women over 50 will suffer a fracture from osteoporosis.
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right now house republicans holding a critical conference call as they continue to try to hash out a deal for house speaker. this after they failed to secure the votes needed after three days and 11 rounds of voting. kevin mccarthy remaining confident this morning, vowing to reporters that they will be shocked by the progress made today. here is gop congressman jim banks last hour on where negotiations stand. take a listen. >> i don't know if i see light at the end of the tunnel yet. but i'm hearing about it. a lot of progress made overnight and negotiations continue with the holdouts as you just mentioned, a number of i believe really healthy concessions have been made. >> joining me now to discuss elaine luria of virginia. she was also a member of the january 6 select committee. nice to see you this morning. i have to ask, after serving two
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terms in the house as you're watching what is playing out right now in washington, what do you make of this moment? >> this is really, you know, not that unexpected from what i saw coming from the new congress. it was all about grievance, grief grievance and it is grievance versus governing and whatever negotiations jim banks was talking about going on behind the scenes, if mccarthy is making every concession, how will they govern at all over the next two years. >> and this is a question we've been asking as we wait to see how this is played out, there have been plenty of warnings this could stretch into the weekend and perhaps even beyond. there are bigger concerns here. without a speaker, there is no business happening in the house. new members have not been sworn in as you know. you served on homeland security for example, there is talk about security clearances. what is your biggest concern in this moment where there is not currently a house of
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representatives? >> i agree that that is a big concern. i served on the armed services and the homeland security committee and congress can't provide the over sight roles and in support of the military so the longer this drags on, the less time that those members who would be serving on those committees in the house of representatives would be able to perform those functions. and it is really a threat, it seems liking from abroad. what are our add vaeversaries thinking as they watch this. and that is a concern and it makes our country vulnerable during this time. and i think that this needs to come to an end. and a speaker needs to be selected so the congress could go on with its work. >> what do you believe democrats can or have been doing in this moment and you have speaken to any of your colleagues about it. >> i've spoken with my colleagues. i i this the republicans are in the majority. it is going to be up to them to
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select a speaker and, you know, kevin mccarthy, hardly anyone in the house, i think less worthy of speaking than kevin mccarthy so there is a lot of frustration for people holding this up. the five never kevin folks. the truth of it is, there is a time when kevin mccarthy steps down from the charade and they could bring someone else to the forefront and the next step is up to them. >> let's just now talk a little bit about january 6 if we could. just before the election, you told cnn you're work on the january 6 committee was most important you've been asked to do professionally. he said it was more important than anything else you've done in congress than your 20 years in the navy. there were so many powerful moments of testimony. the report is out, the transcripts, now that you're maybe a little bit removed from washington, do you feel that this has broken through? >> i feel it has broken through. with the broader public.
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i think that the work of the committee, the report, the information especially the referrals to the department of justice, i feel that they are being acted on. that is out of the committee's hands now that that is concluded. but it is the one place that it hasn't broken through, the republican members of the house who voted to not certify the election results two years ago, they are still perpetuating the lies and the myth and not facing the facts and the truth. so if there is one place in the country that is broken through the least, i think it is the republicans in the house. >> so what do you think then was lacking in the message or in the report? why hasn't that information broken through? >> well i think that their still tied to donald trump. if donald trump is going to remain at the head of the republican party and they're looking for him to answers and until it is clear that ship is sinking, they're going down with it or they're going to have to jump off at some point and i
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think that immediately in the aftermath, kevin mccarthy stood up on the floor and he said the right things and condemned the violence and implied that president trump had some responsibility but shortly thereafter he went down to mar-a-lago and met with trump and made a 180 and has stayed on that course ever since. and back to our original conversation, that is why he's one of the least worthy members of the house to seek speakership. >> and he is losing some sway because as we saw, he does not seem to be convincing some members clearly to support kevin mccarthy. with we look at where we're at, you feel there is action being taken by the doj. adam kinzinger said that he feels for the future of this country if trump is in charge. do you agree? >> most certainly. i think that he should never be allowed near the white house or any position of public trust again. >> elabe luria, appreciate you joining us today. thank you. >> thank you. encouraging updates on damar
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physicians at ucmc, dammar's breathing tube was removed overnight. and he tips to make remarkable progress and he's been able to talk to his family and the care team. just great to hear. >> it is really is. it is news that we all need. something positive to focus on. hamlin's doctors sharing a lighthearted moment about the moments right after he woke up. take a listen. >> his first question that he wrote when he started to awaken was did he win? so we know that it is not only that the lights are on, but we know that he's home. >> the nfl now working on plans for hamlin to be recognized ahead of each game this weekend. cnn's adrienne broaddus is outside of the hospital in cincinnati. and we're also learning and i think it is a great thing, hamlin has spoken with his team? >> yeah, he was able to join the
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team meeting today, erica. with the coaches and players. via facetime. and the bills told us hamlin told his teammates and his coaches, love you boys. and doctors here at the university of cincinnati medical center say those first moments on that field monday night were critical to hamlin's survival. and it is obvious he has a heart for the community and the team he plays with based on that first question. his mind was on the game. that game monday night, there is also been a lot of talk about tee higgins, that is the player from the other team who was involved in that tackle moments before damar hamlin collapsed. here is what higgins is saying. >> obviously it is been hard. just because i have something to do with the play and what not. but everybody has been making me feel whole again. i talked to his mom and everything is okay.
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he's doing good. so i'm in a good place right now. >> reporter: and so many others are in a good place at this moment, too. especially the team, those who care and love him most outside of his family. now that they've been able to hear and speak with their teammate, and see that smile on his face. jim and erica. >> such a -- i mean, what a moment. to hear that this first update but then he's able to facetime them to say love you boys. what a moment. talk about a great way to go into the weekend. adrienne, really appreciate the updates. we also want to share another bright spot. we've been talking about the gofundme that damar hamlin created for his toy drive. those donations nearing $8 million. pretty impressive. on a different note, new excerpts from prince harry's book being leaked to the media
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ahead of the release next week and boy is he spilling this tea. >> he described losing his virginity to a, quote, older lady in a field behind a busy pub. he calls it a humiliating episode but does not name the woman. and in an interview with 60 minutes, harry does talk about the racism he and his wife faced from the british press. here is part of that conversation with our anderson cooper. >> what meghan had go through was similar in part to what kate and camilla went through. very different circumstances. but then you add in the race element which is what the british press jumped on straightaway. i went into this naive, i had no idea they were bigoted. i think i was before the relationship with meghan. >> you think you were bigoted before the relationship with meghan. >> put it this way. i don't see what i now see.
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>> in another excerpt published in "people magazine". >> he asked a driver to recreate his mother's final moments when he rode past the ritz hotel where princess diana had dinner and then the tunnel where her car crashed in 1997 and asked the driver to go the exact speed her car had been going. 65 miles an hour. what a moment. >> he writes there in retrospect i've had plenty of bad ideas this one was ill-conceived. >> told myself it would bring a pain to the decade, instead it brought it brought on the pain. buckingham palace has declined to talk aboudetails about the b it is good to have with us. >> i'm erica hill. >> and i'm jim sciutto.
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