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fundamental right to vote. both of them were just doing their jobs until they were targeted and threatened by the same predators and peddlers of lies that would fuel the insurrection. they were literally forced from their homes, facing despicable, racist taunts, but despite it all, ruby freeman and shay moss found the courage to receive openly and honestly in front of the whole country and the world about their experiences, set the record straight about the lies, and defend the integrity of to our elections. you don't deserve what happened to you, but you do deserve the nation's eternal thanks for showing that dignity and grace of we the people. i'm so proud of you both. i'm proud of you both. albert smith, a former republican city commissioner in philadelphia, who spent a decade overseeing nonpartisan counting of votes.
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like so many other local election workers in 2020 he was harassed and threatened as he did his job faithfully. he did not bend. he did not bow. he did not yield to the political threats and pressure. he he's so trusted by both political parties that the new democratic governor of pennsylvania, josh shapiro appointed him as pennsylvania's secretary of state, a republican to ensure that the integrity of the election. that's a high compliment. [ applause ] his character and his commitments speak volumes. we the people. that's what we also see in mr. benson. twice elected secretary of state to save the right to vote and have that vote counted fairly. that's what she did in 2020,
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when she oversaw a record number of michiganders turn out in that election only to find an armed mob -- an armed mob outside of her home on christmas eve and she and her son were decorating their christmas tree inside, but she refused to back down. she had done her duty. she had kept her oath full of integrity. she's a true leader in our nation. thank you, thank you, thank you for what you have done. [ applause ] and finally, rusty bowers, a former republican speaker of the house in the state of arizona. when i met him today, i said, i hope i'm not hurting your reputation. [ laughter ] where are you, rusty? he's hiding behind you. he's able to do that.
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rusty, we may not agree on all things, but we agree on what this country's about though. we agree that public service is not without -- is not about what you are willing to do to win. it's about what you are willing to lose over, what you are willing to lose over. rusty put himself over the calls to decertify. he lost his primary last year. rusty, you're an example as a dmemonstration to every young mn and woman aberrantinout enterin politics. you're everything politics is all about. thank you, thank you, thank you for your integrity and drive. [ applause ] folks, my fellow americans, i want you to give one round of
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applause again to today's resip y -- recipients of the presidential citizens medal who performed exemplary deeds. on this day in 1941, president franklin roosevelt delivered a state of the union address that became known as his famous for freedom speech as he defined america's place in the world, reminded the american people of, quote, the strength from the things which have been done to make his people conscious of their individual stake in the preservation of democratic life in america. things that have toughened the fi fine fiber of our people, renewed their faith, and strengthened the devotions of the institutions we protect. on this day two years ago, we
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were reminded about the most fundamental of things, democracy itself. as i've said before, we faced an inflection point in our nation's history. on january 6th, it's a remind hear the there's nothing guaranteed about our democracy. i remember learning in undergad yat school, high school, that every generation is required to earn it, defend it, protect it. i was a senator for a long time. i was vice president, and then president. i have to tell you. i began to think looking back on it that it was just a permanent united states. it just was eternal. nothing would happen. that's why i was so pleased to see democrats and republicans work together to pass the electoral count reform act that i just signed into law to protect the will of the people and the peaceful transfer of power and defending and protecting our democracy also means that despite our
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differences of opinion, we must say clearly with a united voice that there's no place, none, zero, zero place in america for voter intimidation, zero, never. and political violence. they're completely contrary to the notion of democracy. america is a land of law and not chaos. it's a nation of peace and nonviolence. we're not a land of kings and dictators, autocrats and extremists. as we see in today's honorees, we're a nation of we the people that toughen our fiber, renew our faith, and strengthen our cause. just remember who in god's name we are. we're the united states of america. not a joke. [ applause ] we're the united states of america.
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there's nothing -- there is nothing -- there has never been a single thing we've set our mind to that we have been unable to accomplish. there is nothing beyond our capacity if we act together. remember who in god's name we are, so god bless all, and may god protect our troops and may god bless those who stand and watch over our democracy. i now have the opportunity and the great honor to award these me medals to these incredible individuals and their representatives. will you please read the cita citations? >> the president's citizens medal recipients, jocelyn benson. [ applause ]
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jocelyn benson was elected twice by the people of michigan as their secretary of state where she continues her steadfast commitment to protect the right to vote and the integrity of our elections in the state of michigan. in 2020, she administered an election with record turnout and certified the results in the face of unprecedented pressure and threats, including armed protesters outside her home. we the people honor the undaunted and unflinching michigan secretary of state, jocelyn benson who continues her exemplary public service to endorse free and fair elections in our nations. [ applause ] russell bowers. [ applause ]
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an artist, rancher, and fourth generation arizonan, rusty bowers represented the people of arizona for almost two decades, rising to become speaker of the house. in a dire hour of our democracy, he put country before party by refusing attempts to decertify the 2020 election and overturn the will of the people. he endured menacing protests, including at his home and eventually lost an election because of his courageous actions. we the people honor rusty bowers, a public servant guided by a deep faith and unbreakable oath to god, family, and country. [ applause ]
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harry dunn. [ applause ] a champion college football lineman, harry dunn has put his protective instincts to a higher purpose as a u.s. capitol police officer. on january 6, 2021, he rushed to protect injured fellow officers fighting back insurrectionists. his powerful testimony describing violence and stinging racism will lay bear the facts for history. on behalf of officers battling lasting trauma, he's easing the stigma around mental health in our country. for protecting citadel, we honor
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harry a. dunn. caroline edwards. [ applause ] the granddaughter of proud military veterans, caroline edwards left a corporate career to follow in their footsteps serving our nation. on january 6, 2021, she helped stop advancing insurrectionists even after being knocked unconscious in the mob's first brutal surge. she has also fought for colleagues as a police union board member and peer counselor, and her congressional testimony will help ensure their valor is never forgotten. for her courageous defense of our democracy and service to fellow officers, we the people honor u.s. capitol police
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officer caroline edwards. [ applause ] michael fanone. [ applause ] the grandison of a police officer, michael fanone was born to protect and seven. he took an off-duty call to the capitol on january 6, 2021, helping to drive insurrectionists away from a key tunnel and facing vicious attack. he immediately became one of the day's most outspoken truth seekers. for his absolute courage in protecting the capitol and our democracy, and his tenacious search for accountability, we the people honor former
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metropolitan police department officer michael fanone. [ applause ] ruby freeman. [ applause ] inspired by the voting rights legacy of atlanta, she viewed her civic duty as a fulton county election worker as a sacred mission to ensure the people of georgia could exercise their fundamental right to vote freely and fairly. in the 2020 election, she upheld that sacred mission despite an orchestrated campaign to overturn the election and that targeted and threatened her and her family. to the nation, she bore witness of the trauma and tragedy of
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that experience, and today we the people honor lady ruby freeman as part of our nation's voting rights history. [ applause ] aqu aqui aquilinog gannell. after coming here from the dominican republic, he served in the u.s. army and then in the u.s. capitol police. on january 6, 2021, he courageously stood firm at the doors of the capitol as insurrectionists stormed the entrance, sustaining serious injuries as he protected members
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of congress and defended our democracy. he later testified publicly to ensure our nation and history never forget. for patriotism that puts love of country before self, we the people honor u.s. capitol police sergeant aquilino a. gannell. [ applause ] eugene goodman. [ applause ] an army combat veteran and a u.s. capitol police officer, eugene goodman embodies fierce public service. in the breach on january 6, 2021, he made himself a target
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to divert insurrectionists away from the senate chamber, enabling the former vice president, lawmakers, and staff to escape safely. in the face of a clear and present danger, he did his duty, and he did not flinch. for his valor and for ensuring the constitutional order, we the people honor u.s. capitol police officer eugene goodman. [ applause ] [ applause ] danielle hodges. a virginia national guardsman and metropolitan police department officer, daniel ho
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hodges dedicated his life to serving his community and our nation. on january 6, 2021, he fought to push surging insurrections away from a key tunnel into the capitol. returning to the line, even after being brutally crushed and beaten. his courageous testimony helped ensure that we never forget or let such an attack happen again. for his hero ism and unwavering commitment to the truth, we the people honor metropolitan police department officer daniel hodges. [ applause ] dr. serena livengood, accepting on behalf of her loved one. [ applause ] the proud son of a u.s. senate
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sergeant-at-arms, howard liebengood left a career as a race car driver to follow in his late father's footsteps, protecting the democratic institutions they both revered. he died after battling insurrectionists at the capitol and staying on to restore security in the crucial days after january 6th. his painful loss helped change the law to better honor the unimaginable sacrifice that too many officers and their families face. for his deep dedication and selfless service, we the people honor u.s. capitol police officer howard c.liebengood. [ applause ] andraya shaye moss.
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[ applause ] inspired by the stories her mother told her about the movement for voting rights in america, shaye moss pursued a career as an election worker in fulton county, georgia. because of her dedicated service, she faced death threats, harassment, and intimidation by those seeking to overturn the outcome of the 2020 election. she would later testify to the nation about her pain and resolve. today, we the people honor shaye moss for helping to ensure that the american people have a voice in the destiny of our nation. [ applause ] al
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albert schmidt. [ applause ] a former federal civil servant and the city commissioner of if i would, albert schmidt has spent his career on the unsung, yet necessary task of making democracy work for the people. in the 2020 election, despite intense political pressure, he did what he had always done, ensured the integrity of the election and faithfully overawe the nonpartisan counting of the ballots. we the people honor albert schmidt for protecting every american's sacred right to vote and to have that vote counted. [ applause ] >> charles and gladys sicknick, accepting on behalf of brian d. sicknick. [ applause ]
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a new jersey air national guardsman who served two tours overseas, brian sicknick was a u.s. capitol police officer devoted to serving our nation. for over a decade, he guarded the capitol, including on january 6, 2021. he lost his life protecting our elected representatives, upholding the will of the american people, and defending our constitution. his heroism, courage, and character set an example for generations of americans to come, and will never be forgotten. for his service and his ultimate sacrifice, we the people honor u.s. capitol police officer brian d. sicknick. [ applause ]
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erin smith accepting on behalf of jeffrey l. smith. [ applause ] a 12-year veteran of the metropolitan police department, officer jeffrey smith dedicated his life to public service. on january 6, 2021, as he fought the violent mob, officer smith sustained devastating head injuries from multiple assaults inside and outside the capitol. he died after protecting congress, guarding the capitol, and preserving our democracy. his passing sparked changes in the law that honor the silent injuries of our fallen officers. for his extraordinary heroism, pure courage, and unwavering
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devotion to the nation, we the people honor metropolitan police department officer jeffrey l. smith. [ applause ] >> well, as i said at the outset, this is a warranted, in some senses overdue, but also incredibly difficult for the families, and particularly the families of those who lost a hero defending our democracy, and -- but i tell you people who will go through unfortunately,
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similar losses are going to look at y'all and say, that's the grace in dignity that i want to display. so really, thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you. i want to thank you again for your service and sacrifice, and may god bless your families. may god protect our troops. thank you all very much. [ applause ] >> please remain in your seats as the president, vice president, second gentleman, and recipients depart. >> a touching moment just now at the white house. president biden honoring the heroes of the insurrection and the long battle to undo democracy itself, including the officers who stood up to the mob
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during the capitol siege as well as various election officials and other elected officials who helped preserve american democracy on january 6th and the days leading up to it. while you were watching president biden, the house wrapped up its 13th vote. ballot number 13, and they, again, did not elect a speaker of the house. no one got enough votes. right now, they are all voting on a motion to adjourn. that is -- that's the motion right now being voted on. let's get right to cnn's manu raju. we have been doing the math and it seems like the task will be much easier for kevin mccarthy to become the speaker if these two house republicans buck and hunt who are absent right now for personal reasons, if they return. tell us what's going on. >> reporter: this is exactly why the house is voting to adjourn right now, to give time for those members to return. buck has a flight arriving back
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into washington around 9:00 p.m. they plan to come back at 10:00 p.m. that would give kevin mccar thir two additional votes. that doesn't mean he will get there. there's already a furious effort under way right now to get the other remaining holdouts. the two most viewed as gettable is matt rosendale and elijah crane. both of them are under -- being lobbied by the membership of the top leaders to break ranks, and i'm told that the concerns are political. crane in particular is concerned that if he backs mccarthy this could hurt him in a potential primary bid. mr. mccarthy, do you think you have the votes to be elected speaker tonight? >> yes. >> you do? >> yes. >> you'll be able to flip rosendale and crane? >> i'll have the votes. >> what were their concerns? well, there you have it. he said, yes he's got the votes
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to become elected speaker if you are still with me here, jake. >> yep. >> reporter: he says he has the votes to be elected speaker. that is news. he has not been saying that so far. in fact, for some time, kevin mccarthy has been saying that it's unclear when he would be elected speaker. there's no time frame. that's when he said last night. that's what he said this morning. now you have kevin mccarthy saying that tonight he will have the votes to be elected speaker of the house, and that would mean that you have to flip some members somehow, someway. those remaining holdouts, elijah crane as well as matt rosendale of montana. both had expressed concerns about the politics of supporting mccarthy. crane of potential primary impacts he could have. rosendale is eyeing a potential senate run in montana. he wants to stay to the right in any potential opponent there. one montana opponent, ryan zinke, also supporting mccarthy. you get the sense of the
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politics there, but mccarthy doesn't seem too concerned. i asked him about rosendale and crane, and he didn't quite say how he plans to get those members, but there's lots of different scenarios in which you can get some. some may vote present to lower the voting threshold, and these two to spupport mccarthy are essential. this is an historic speaker's race. more than 100 years here that he will finally get the votes to be elected speaker after we've seen it's been 100 years since we have had multiple ballballots. >> it is huge news and a lucky friday the 13th for kevin mccarthy as of right now. not just luck, but obviously a lot of wheeling and dealing and negotiating. right now, kevin mccarthy is within grasp of the house speakership. he has 214 votes. he only needs to flip two rebels
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i'm anderson cooper in new york. you're watching kcnn's special live coverage. voting right now on the house floor. mccarthy allies trying to buy more time and adjourn the house until tonight at 10:00 p.m. the battle for speaker now a battle of attrition. kevin mccarthy flipping 15 republican rebels, all of them today. just how much closer he is to the speaker's gavel than he was this morning. this was ballot number 11.
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last night the number holdouts was 20 strong, and one present vote. then there was ballot 13, and one more rebel defected to the mccarthy camp. now that leaves six never kevin voters. lauren boebert, matt rosendale, eli crane, and others. let's go to manu raju. you caught up with mccarthy and he told you directly he has the votes. >> reporter: that is a much different tone that he has struck over the past several days. he has always been confident that he'll get there, but he has refused to put a time frame on it, suggesting this could drag on for days and this could go on for long. he would stick to it for as long as possible, but right there for the first time, kevin mccarthy is saying he has the votes to be elected speaker and he'll be elected tonight. >> do you think you'll have the votes to be elected speaker tonight? >> yes. >> you do? you'll be able to flip rosendale and crane? >> i'll have the votes. >> what were their concerns?
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>> i counted. >> reporter: those two members i referred to, and crane is an incoming freshman. rosendale is a republican member from montana. both of them voted for jim jordan in this -- these past ballots. they are the ones who are the subject of a pretty swintense campaign, the lobbying campaign to win over at this moment. i'm told they have been concerned about the politics of supporting mccarthy, particularly crane saying that may not be good to support him, especially if he faces a primary in the next cycle. rosendale, somebody who is eyeing a senate bid in 2024, and a potential opponent, ryan zinke supports mccarthy. perhaps there are political issues there that they need to sort them out, but they believe they can, and there are different it rations of how they can get there. maybe they can convince one or two of them to vote present. that could change the calculus and lower the voting threshold.
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218, if all 234 members are voting present or in attendance, that is what the magic number is, 218. they expect two absent members who are gone today to come back and vote. ken buck of colorado as well as wesley hunt who is an incoming freshman, and we have the leader again here. leader mccarthy -- leader mccarthy. he didn't stop this time, but we tried. the reporters are chasing him down as you can see. he's coming back and forth here, anderson as he is very confident he has the votes, but a very big moment i have to say in a really messy beginning to the beginning of the 118th congress. they have not been able to do anything. it's been paralyzed. they could only elect a speaker or vote to adjourn. that's all they could do at this moment until they elect a speaker. they are voting to adjourn the house right now to give them time to allow those absent members to return, and then when we come back at 10:00 p.m., we'll see if they're able to
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elect kevin mccarthy who is confident he has the votes now, anderson. >> i appreciate it and all your work throughout this whole week. thank you very much. back to the panel here. you know, david irwin, you talked about this is the process of grinding people down. >> here we go. we're watching. we're watching them get ground down heres right? we're down to crane and rosendale. we watched the video of crane saying, look. i've got no perthing personal against mccarthy. did i vow to my constituents that i wouldn't support kevin? i talked to representative zinke, a former navy s.e.a.l., and he supported him and we're talking to him, and so i think, you know, crane is actually gettable. i'm not sure about rosendale. scott's, you know, they have been working there. maybe in montana, who knows? >> david urban, but david astro? >> what if those guys vote
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present? what if those guys vote present? do they -- would that be adequate? i mean, he could fulfill -- i remember back in 2021 when nancy emppelosi was re-elected with 2 votes. there are a couple of members present that pledged not to vote for pelosi, but they're present, but reduced the number of votes that she needed. maybe that's what's going on here. you know, i just -- i'm -- the other thing that's rattling around in my head is something rahm emanuel used to tell me when he was white house -- >> clean it up. >> it's completely clean. he used to say, nothing gets things going in the house more than the smell of the jet fuel. it's friday afternoon. >> yeah. >> people want to go home, and it seems clear that he's close. so, you know, i think there's a lot of pressure to get this done. >> well, and that's the big --
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sorry to say. this is the big part of this as you say. now we are at the moment where the numbers are creating the pressure. who's the one or two people who are going to keep us here over the weekend? >> let's listen to kevin mccarthy. >> we'll come back. i believe at that time we'll have the votes to finish this once and for all. it just remiends me of what my father always told me. it's not how you start. it's how you finish. >> what was the breaking point in the negotiations? >> i think getting together, and just finding the ability to how are we all going to work together? it's a tight majority. i think at the end of the day, we'll be more effective, more efficient, and definitely the government will be more accountable. >> how do you expect to govern this way? it has been taking this long to get the conference united. >> see, this is a great part. because it took this long, now we learned how to govern. so now we'll be able to get the
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job done. thank you all very much. see you later. >> kevin mccarthy speaking. they have adjourned now until 10:00 p.m. tonight. that will allow some time not only to allow in david urban's terms, grind down the holdouts, rosendale in crane in particular, and also allow republicans to get back who have not been here today. scott jennings? >> first of all, we just have to acknowledge how far kevin mccarthy has come in a short period of time. i mean, i know he was joking about it early eier, but he is comeback kid. we were sitting here 24 hours ago and it was not clear if he was going to be able to get anywhere near the votes and this morning it seemed like the negotiations hadn't quite produced a deal. he defied expectations when the group of the roy people started coming over. it's obviously that these negotiations were in good faith, and they did work, and that his personal engagement really mattered.
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so i have to say even though a lot of people have taken a lot of shots at mccarthy from across the spectrum this year and called into question his political acumen or his ability to fill these shoes, he's come a long way in a short period of time, and he and his deputies deserve a lot of credit for figuring it out in a group of people who are not easily sold. >> i'll grant you that, but i would say there's two key questions. at what cost have we gotten to this point, and what is left to give to get these last two votes and that's what we're going to be be looking for tonight. >> i think today is a sad day. it's the second anniversary of january 6th. kevin mccarthy has gotten much closer to cobbling together a very precarious leadership position, ruling over a house of representatives of which there are six holdouts who frankly are totally unapologetic about the actions from two years ago, and
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over a house of representatives that have a lot of republicans who did not vote to certify the election two years ago in the wake of the destruction of the capitol in which they were in. the side by side of these moments in or horse race counting, of kevin mccarthy's, you know, modicum success versus president biden giving 12 medals -- presidential medals to the heroes on that day are frankly a really stark contrast and reminder of what the stakes are in this country, and how precarious that leadership will be in the house of representatives, and the caliber of individuals that's in there right now, and i think this is not a successful day for republicans. this is not a great day for the country, but it's good we took the moment to be -- to commemorate and remember those who gave their lives on that day, and the sacrifice to get to this moment. >> just now the house adjourning as kevin mccarthy is inching closer to claiming the speaker's gavel. team mccarthy's strategy now, get donald trump to lean on the
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leader mccarthy until 10:00 p.m. to flip a few more never kevin hkevin holdouts. the top sources tell cnn congressman matt rosendale of montana, and incoming congressman eli crane of arizona, they're also waiting for two congressmen who are it of town for personal reasons to return so as to allow him the margin he needs to become speaker. let's go live to melanie zanona. mel, kevin mccarthy sounding more confident and more assured and even definitive that he has the votes and will be speaker and it will happen tonight. >> reporter: yeah, jake. i would say the most definitive and the most confident we have heard kevin mccarthy throughout this entire saga. he says he will the votes and he will have them tonight. he says it's not about how you start start. it's about how you finish. first, we need to get two members back. that would be ken buck and wesley hunt, two republicans who were supporting kevin mccarthy, but they were absent.
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that was hurting his threshold that he needs. they are expected to come back later tonight. that is why they adjourned. they will come back later tonight at 10:00 p.m., but they have a little more work to do because they have to flip at least two of the six remaining holdouts and i'm told there is going to be a big focus on freshman eli crane from arizona as well as matt rosendale from montana, and some of the concern from these members is that voting for kevin mccarthy is going to play poorly for them back in their very conservative districts. part of the pitch to them is going to be convince them otherwise, and apart of that strategy could rely on donald trump. up until this point, he has not moved the needle although he has been making calls trying to get people to support kevin mccarthy, but now he his expectd to make one last effort. we're told the trump and mccarthy camps have been in contact, and they're going to try to put pressure on these folks and say, it's not going to hurt them back in their districts. matt rosendale is someone to watch because he wants to run for senate in montana.
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you would have to go through a red primary there. so whatever trump says to him, maybe he offers to help him out or endorse him. we don't know, but that will come into play potentially and could be a key into unlocking some of these votes. one other thing i want to go back to about the absences, jake, we need to point out the personal toll this is taking on some of the numbers. they have gone to great lengths to help mccarthy lock down the speakership. he's coming back just to be here for this vote tonight. just a glimpse into just the personal sacrifices that a lot of these members are taking as they hope to lock things down, jake. >> all right, mel. thanks so much. let's bring in congressman french hill of arkansas. he's a republican been voting for mccarthy, what now? 13 times in 13 times you voted. >> i think so. at least. >> every time we should say. you have been meeting with the mccarthy holdouts. there are six left. who is most likely to flip? is it rosendale and crane as
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melanie just reported? is one of the possibilities getting some of these individuals to at least vote present, which would bring down the standard of the threshold that mccarthy needs to reach from 218 to perhaps 217 or 216? >> yeah. jake, it's good to be with you. it's a good day for kevin mccarthy and our efforts to elect kevin as the next speaker of the house. we picked up 15 votes this afternoon in the vote series. that gives the momentum back to him. you're right in terms of what we have to do between now and 10:00 tonight. we're going to work hard at it. i think all six deserve the opportunity to hear from mccarthy's supporters, that we would urge them to change their vote and support kevin, but we need two of them plus the two that we get back, our members who are out of town. >> as a tip, as an observer, i don't think gaetz is gettable, but that's for you to decide.
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one of the things that i'm hearing from some individuals like yourself, mccarthy supporters, people who support governing, is they're worried about what has been conceded. some of the negotiations, obviously, seem reasonable, having 72 hours at the least between introducing a bill before voting on it. but there's some talk of freezing spending at fiscal year 2022 levels, which would actually bring down the defense budget significantly. a lot of members of the house armed services committee are worried about that. do you know all the concessions that have been made? >> look, there are three areas where leader mccarthy worked with the non-mccarthy group to get to an agreement. one was on rules. you referenced that. the rules that we've agreed to are exactly the house rules, as approved and passed by the house conference, with one exception,
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that was to add the motion to vacate the chair to one member. let me remind you that's been the rule in the house since 1910. every speaker has had that rule and the house rules except for nancy pelosi. that's the first group. secondly is spending. trying to get control of spending after this avalanche of fiscal stimulus coming from the pandemic and to the biden administration, we want to try to curtail and reform spending and there are spending agreements in this package that would encourage more members to offer amendments on the floor to reduce spending, to have a budget resolution that has an aspirational goal for some departments of trying to go back to fy '22 which was considered sort of a baseline for conversation, and then finally, jake, our participation in the committees, leader mccarthy wants all of the standing committees of congress to fully reflect all of the mixed view and viewpoints of the house republican conference. so those were the three areas
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where we've reached agreement last night and you saw the movement with 15 members switching their votes in support of kevin this afternoon. >> mccarthy recently said this was all a great experience, i know he's that kind of guy, putting a positive spin on thing, i wouldn't expect anything else, and i don't mean that in a derisive way, but he's saying this is a positive experience, we've learned how to govern, but a cynic might say you've learned how to govern, what does that mean, ten people take you hostage and you give them everything they want? >> i understand that cynical view and i don't see it that way. i don't believe the speakership has been permanently weakened in some way. these are rules that a vast majority of the house republicans prefer. this is a spending direction, spending control program that vast majority of house republicans support, and so this personnel issue of making sure all wings of the republican party are adequately represented on the committees, i think is where a lot of the emphasis was and i think that's what leader
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mccarthy has guided as a solution. i believe that just as speaker pelosi had a very narrow margin in the last congress, kevin mccarthy will face the exact same thing this congress, and it starts this week working together to build that consensus. >> you got one more ballot to win, congressman. >> right. >> this evening. you're going to win it, yes? >> i'm convinced we're going to win it. we're going to work hard between now and 10:00 to make that happen. >> is it going to be those two members flipping and voting for mccarthy or three or four members of these holdouts voting present? >> you never know what the mix will be. that's what makes it exciting. it's perfect for a high school project. >> okay. well, i graduated from high school in 1987, but i appreciate it. >> good to be with you, thanks. >> a historic week in congress, might actually end tonight. kevin mccarthy says he has the votes to win the speaker's gavel. more special coverage on "the lead" after this quick break.
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"the this is cnn breaking news. and welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. it is day four of this protracted and dysfunctional standoff over the house speakership and for the first time this week we are getting signals that we may, in fact, be nearing the finish line. right now the had house is adjourned until 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight. just moments ago, republican leader kevin mccarthy confidently told cnn he will, he will have the votes, to be elected speaker tonight. that prediction coming following