tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN January 6, 2023 5:00pm-6:00pm PST
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>> reporter: as the players now shift their focus from that traumatic moment to future games -- >> we're going to use all the positives to help us win. >> reporter: erin, it was great to hear from those doctors, from the hospital just yesterday. you can hear it's still busy behind us. but if you think about this and looking at the buffalo bill's twitter page they've been giving out a lot of information. going to share this picture of the assistant athletic trainer, and he's the man credited with going out there and helping do that cpr immediately when the situation took a turn. it's great to be able to share this picture because obviously there are so many people giving him credit to where we are right now. >> saving a life. thank you so much. and we're two hours away from the house reconvening to continue voting for speaker. it is going to be a crucial vote and i'll be back here at 10:00 with jake tapper for our special coverage.
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"ac 360" meantime starts now. and good evening. it is another night of drama and uncertainty in washington tonight. in a little less than two hours the house will reconvene and test congressman's kevin mccarthy confidence he can win the remaining hold outs he need to become speaker elect and avoid this fate for a 14th straight time. >> a majority of the votes cast, a speaker has not been elected. >> after that losing effort which saw him flip 15 no votes over to his side, the house adjourned to allow time to deal with the rest. what exactly got him this far is unclear. we know some of the proposed concessions or at least one he made has many democrats concerned it could lead to a government default. we're in territory unchartered
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since the 1850s. this is also taking place on the second anniversary of the attack on congress. president biden honoring defenders of democracy in both parties and law enforcement heroes of that day, and remembering those whose lives were lost. at the same time kevin mccarthy was courting the support of lawmakers, some of whom denied the outcome of the election. many voted just hours after the attack against certifying election results or down-playing what happened. some notably mccarthy holdouts, andy biggs even sympathized with members of the mob now facing trial or some members. t two years ago tonight members voted to overturn election results and nearly all of them are back on mccarthy's side. so with the next vote a couple hours away our correspondent have been working their sources. before we go to cnn's manu raju, the six remaining republicans who voted no in the last go
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around, andy biggs, matt gaetz, bob good, and matt rosen dale. what is the latest? >> reporter: right now mccarthy's team is confident tonight will finally be the night the 14th ballot, the longest speaker's election in more than 100 years that he'll be elected speaker of the house, but they've moved behind the scenes to work over those six members in the past couple of hours. looking at a combination of flipping him to vote for him or changing the voting threshold altogether. how do they do that? by convincing some of them to vote, quote, present prch this is the math. 214 members voted for kevin mccarthy in the last ballot. if all memberserize present and in attendance and voting for a specific candidate that means 218 votes need to get there. he will get to 216 we know that because two of the his supporters have been out of town for various family and medical issues. now they're coming back into town tonight. that'll get them back up to 216.
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some of those votes could come from members flipping. if three of them vote present it would bring him down to 216 votes, or if he's able to flip one of those members and a couple vote present he could win with 217 votes. if he is lucky to flip two of them he would get the magic 218 votes without having to flip all of them to present. all of those discussions have been taking place behind the scenes for the last several hours. already they're preparing for a very late night. they're preparing for victory and after victory expect a mccarthy speech on the house floor. and following that they'll have to adopt a rules package that will govern how the house will have to operate. that rules package has been part of the negotiations for the last several days and includes some major concessions mccarthy had to make to potentially win tonight, one of which would give any single member of the house the ability to vote to oust a sitting speaker, something that could put his speakership in
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jeopardy if he strays from the party line or strays from what some of the hard right members had asked mim to do. a lot of issues here still at play, anderson, but nevertheless mccarthy confident they'll get there tonight. >> you were putting on the screen other proposed concessions in pretty small writing. what else stands out to you? there's something about the debt ceiling as well. >> that's going to be a huge issue this year. the country has never defaulted on its debt and it's a possibility this year. this is narrowly divided house. and of course democrats in the white house. dealing with some of the debt ceiling will be hugely complicated especially given the assurances that mccarthy made to the hard right members of his conference, the assurance he made was any debt ceiling increase would be coupled with spending cuts. that is a red line for senate democrats and for the white house that have called for simply allowing the debt ceiling
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to be increased without any ties to it. so those are negotiations that will have to happen over the course of a year. if mccarthy were to stray for that that could also potentially put his speakership in jeopardy, so those issues will be significant. also they looked at ways to cut overall domestic discretionary spending. watch for that to be an issue especially this could affect some defense programs. already some on the right are concerned about that. also give more members on that forright freedom caucus say on key committees which sets the parameters before debate on legislation. all those issues mccarthy has to debate to get to where he is today, pairly getting the votes on the speaker of the house on the 14 ballots which they believe they'll get to tonight. >> we'll be checking in with you over the next two hours. coming up next right now let's go to cnn's melanie zunona also on capitol hill. mccarthy's strategy is to get
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the holdouts to vote present. >> lauren boebert is definitely one of his staunchest critics. she's been the one of the people getting up and nominating other people besides kevin mccarthy. she's complaining about donald trump calling these members and trying to get them to flip their vote and said he needs to stop calling. she also in a conference meeting earlier this week stood up and dropped a swearword because she was so frustrated. now we're hearing she might be the next to vote present, and that is key because it could could give kevin mccarthy the threshold he needs to vote speaker. previously we were only hearing two other names. two present votes wouldn't have been enough for him to get there, so if he can get three members to vote present he will clench the speakership. and so this just suffers a window into the pressure campaign. that was part of the mccarthy strategy all along.
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they were going to pick-off as many as they could with the concessions and rule changes. >> you reported that several members have made some personal sacrifices just in order to make tonight's vote happen. >> extraordinary lengths i would say some of these members have gone to. that's because the attendance has been so key since the margins are so, so slim here. democrats have been doing everything they can to make sure all their members are here and present and voting against mccarthy. and mccarthy has been doing everything he can to make sure all his supporters were there voting present for him. but there were a number of absences. leslie hunt just had a baby a few months ago and spend time in the nicu. he had to fly back tonight to be there for the vote. ken buck he also had a medical procedure that was preplanned. he flew back to colorado. now he's also on the way back for the vote tonight. and then there's also a democrat who got surgery literally this
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morning, anderson, came straight to the capitol afterwards and was still wearing hospital slippers, so i think it really offers a glimpse into the personal toll that this drawn out fight has taken on these members and just how extraordinary this one in a century speakers fight has really been. >> melanie, appreciate it. a lot to watch for over the next several hours. joining us now south republican dusty johnson. you voted for him 13 times. how confident are you when the house reconvenes at 10:00 he will be the speaker of the house tonight? >> well, i've been telling people for three days that we were making progress with negotiations. i've been in those rooms. i felt, anderson, that there were people of good faith sitting at the table trying to get to yes. now, a lot of people said kevin mccarthy is never going to get there, you guys are wasting your time, but we are close. i wouldn't want to speculate on a time line other than to tell you i continue to feel we're
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making progress. and frankly some of the rule changes that have been made are the right things to do anyway. >> do you think he'll win in the first vote back, or do you think it's going to take multiple votes? >> i wouldn't want to speculate as to time line. that's the thing about breakthroughs. you never know when they're going to happen. we've continued to make progress in a slow and study way, and i think that's going to continue to happen tonight. >> you think they'll continue to vote to try to get it there no matter how long it takes tonight? >> real life happens, melanie did such a good job giving your viewers a sense of premature babies and medical issues and surgeries, and those don't stop. kevin hern who's a republican vote for mccarthy he has a memorial service for his mother tomorrow night, and we're going to continue to have those things crop up. and i think republicans are going to be committed to making sure kevin mccarthy is elected at some point in the next two hours. i would note, anderson, for your viewers real life is going to continue to happen for house members over the course of the
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next two hours week in and week out. anytime anybody gets the sniffles that's going to impact the math on the house floor. >> congressman, you're a supporter of mccarthy. you're also pragmatic. you want to get stuff on capitol hill. you are not on an extreme i think it's fair to say. are you concerned at all about some of the things that have been conceded? obviously you said some of the rule changes make sense to you. do you you worry about even as a supporter of mccarthy about one person being able to bring a vote on whether or not he should no longer be speaker? >> you're right, i do view myself as a pragmatic conservative. and my colleagues do, too. i was elected as the chairman of the main street caucus that is between 70 and 80 pragmatic conservatives. there is a little bit of concern, anderson, about these rule changes, but i think in the media it's largely been blown up. the changes come in three ways. number one to increase transparency and accountability
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a lot of members are supportive of those. i'll give you one example. a bill should not be voted on until there's been 72 hours for members and the public to review it. that makes a lot of sense to me. number two, an understanding that the house is stronger if you have all the views on all committees. that is going to give house freedom caucus members more of an opportunity to serve on committees where they've been underrepresented in the past. and then number three a return to fiscal sanity, that has gotten a lot of attention today, but the reality is we are $33 trillion in debt. so some of these budgetary control mechanisms agreed to are really, really important for this country. >> there isn't -- the majority republicans in the house as you know is a slim one, so on many issues there's going to need to be negotiations. there's going to need to be compromise with democrats. the more power that those in the freedom caucus, perhaps, or in the farther right side of it
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have, i mean is there going to be compromise? is that going to be possible? >> there is going to need to be some give-and-take because there's also a united states senate, and the american people although i'm not very happy about it, put chuck schumer in charge of the u.s. senate or gave him enough numbers so he could be in charge. but i think we want to focus on leverage here, which you have a conservative house majority, we are going to startatio negotiat at a stronger place than when we had a nancy pelosi u.s. led house. no member i'm talking to feels like we're going to be able to make drastic changes overnight. we didn't get into this country's problems overnight. it's going to take us some time, but i think what conservatives like myself want to see is movement in the right direction. we want to bend some of these curves in a way that doesn't continue to put us so much deeper in debt. and i think if we can bend those curves, and if we can convince
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the senate it's the right thing to do, this is going to be -- the 118th could be a very fruitful congress. >> back to the votes, finally, do you think enough holdouts could be persuaded to vote present? we know that's part of the mccarthy team strategy, thereby lower the number of votes needed to win. >> yeah, i wouldn't want to disclose kind of the up to the minute movement of members because i don't want to blow the whole gosh darn thing up. i've been involved in a number of negotiations over the last few years and anytime anything leaks out, because frankly you just had a couple of really good capitol reporters on the air, and they break a lot of news that isn't all that good to happen. but when it happens it does blow leaks up. >> it was a good conversation. thank you. >> thank you. >> as we look ahead to the next vote tonight we're getting the bipartisan band back together. i don't know if you all have
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left this building. is it going to work out? >> i think the gosh darn thing is going to get through is what's going to happen. yeah, it seems pretty clear. and i said earlier when we were together earlier i thought that what would happen is some of these holdouts would end up voting present so they could say i didn't vote for kevin mccarthy and yet enable him to get -- to lower the threshold that he needs to lower for his 216 votes to carry. that is how pelosi got elected speaker in 2021. i do think you heard a little bit of concern on the part of the congressman. i think you speak to republicans in congress and out of congress privately, there's a lot more concern about the -- about the leverage that these freedom caucus representatives have -- have shown here. and the price that kevin mccarthy had to pay to win speakership, you know, he's a
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person of great ambition, not huge fixed principles when it comes to politics or philosophy. and now he's tethered by these agreements that he's made. so it doesn't bode well for a real productive or harmonious two years. >> speaking of the agreements that have been made, one republican -- >> that whole list -- >> yeah, one republican tonight, representative tony gonzalez, has already tweeted that he's not planning to support the rules package, which is the framework by which you would put these agreements into place. and so i guess one thing we're watching so mccarthy presumably gets elected, he'll be sworn in as speaker by the dean of the house, hal rogers of kentucky. he'll then swear in the whole congress. they then go through the rules, and this is the next key vote. how many people are like tony gonzalez who say, well, i don't like what was negotiated? i would be stunned if mccarthy's conference turned down a rules
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package that was so hard to turn the rubex cube here, but the fact he's already laid down that marker raised my eyebrow. >> what i was going to say it does make you wonder with that split are you they going to try to use some sort of time in terms of debate on this rules package to continue to socialize it among the members, because one of the things we've been talking about, remember, is how many of these members have actually seen the list we have seen but the real fine details -- >> okay, i may have an answer to your question. i was reading a release from tom emers, the whip, who said at approximately 1:45 to 2:15 a.m. this morning we'll be voting on the rules package. so assuming they come in at 10:00 and they have the votes teed up, mccarthy is speaker -- >> i hope they do. because we want the rule in place where the representatives can review bills for 72 hours before they consider them. so they ought to rush it through in the middle of the night. >> that wasn't in the rules
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package. my point is to karen's point they have to do some arm twisting presumably, and none of this is a done deal, right? when kevin walked back and told manu, i got this, i can count heads i was kind of taken aback. >> do you think they'll be able to do it tonight? >> i don't think we know the answer to that, and i don't think they know the answer to that. let's remember the way things have been going the last few day. we don't know it's done until it's actually sealed, done, the ink is dry. >> david, are you concerned about the concessions? >> i'm not concerned about the concession. i think david axelrod and i were talking about this before. i think as soon as this is over and tomorrow they look forward to the hunter biden laptop investigations, the border investigations, the mayorkas impeachment i think this is all ancient history and the republican family is back together again. this is my opinion, one man's opinion. i think they move quickly and
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there will be a crisis come august when you've to get a debt ceiling. that's going to require real cooperation and i think will require democrats to get it through. >> the republican family sees like the borges right now. >> the idea of holding flat the defense spending, which, you know, look, we're in the middle of a war. we've given away a lot of military equipment to a country -- i've heard some grumbling about the idea we would agree to right now not increase defense spending. >> that'll come up in the budget. that's the '24 budget because the appropriations process is done. they're nauticaing money from this year. presumably budgeting, and i'm not sure hal rogers and the other folks are going to want to go along with that. >> karen, what are you hearing from democrats? they've been enjoying this spectacle over the last several days. the reality, though, if this ends it's going to be a different congress they're
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facing. >> i wouldn't necessarily say enjoy. i think democrats also recognize at a point this is on all your houses. at some point the american people are looking at this. the american people will look at this and say this is dysfunctional congress, and they won't necessarily distinguish between it's the democrats, it's the republicans. now, of course democrats are doing everything they can to make sure you know where the dysfunction is anything. and, look, i think democrats also recognize this deal whatever it ends up being is going to be quite fragile and there's going to be a lot more of the spotlight on the republican dysfunction over the next days, weeks, two years. >> i would say not necessarily so. this will be the last peaceful day in the biden administration white house because when the oversight starts, oversight by -- kevin mccarthy gets in by a majority of one vote or two votes, it's going to feel equally as painful if he had 300 votes. >> let me just say about that, i think this is -- if, in fact, the most rabid voices in that
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caucus are leading the charge here and they go overboard, this is precisely what people feared when they voted last november and why kevin mccarthy is struggling now because he didn't elect as many people as he thought. this is vote against election deniers, against trumpism and general extremism. if they feel this is a search and destroy mission i think they're going to pay a price for that. >> i think there's going to be robust oversight on the border, fentanyl, withdraw from afghanistan, on weaponization of the doj and fbi. those are things republicans want to see take place. it's a matter of is it an 8 or an 1 on -- >> it doesn't have a legitimate legislative purpose because one of the things republicans have complained about when there was robust oversight of donald trump was it was political and vindictive, and what was the legislative purpose? i think republicans on their
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oversight they've got to make the connection. we're looking into this because we need to change that, so whatever that law happens to be. so i think as long as they're making those legislative connections. i do expect the first sets of legislation to be around repealing the 87,000 irs agents, maybe something on pro-life. you know, there's some other legislation priority -- >> informative because the senate is not going to embrace those things. >> again, some of the republican members earlier this week said they didn't want to be messaging bills. those are going to be performative messaging bills, quite frankly. >> i think if the group that drove this whole deal this week that become prominent figures in the next two years a lot of those moderate republicans, senate right republicans closely in swing districts, contested districts are going to have a real hard time in '24. so kevin mccarthy will be celebrating tonight but he's not going to be celebrating in august and he may not be speaker in september and they may not be
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in the majority in 2025. >> this has been a victory for the 20 holdouts. it's been a victory for the house freedom caucus, for those who are probably more on the extremes, no? >> yeah, and i think some of the things being discussed open votes on the floor, going out for an amendment. most americans look at that and say what's wrong with that? what's wrong with having 72 hours to look at a bill, what's wrong with these spending reforms? i don't think they're all that radical. now, placing and changing committee ratios, making sure there's certain house freedom caucus people, three freedom caucus that goes to the floor, certain things like that are a bit different. but i think what was given up is not really that shocking. it shouldn't be to america. >> it's a victory to some of these conservatives who wanted these reforms. it was not a victory for the matt gaetz faction. >> you know he comes out of this -- >> chip roy looked good. >> but these folks who have been on the floor, you know, matt gaetz the other day saying we're
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going to take kevin mccarthy out of here in a straitjacket, this is a defeat for that kind of activity in this conference. and it was a victory for the people who wanted to -- whatever you think of the rules, whatever you think of outcome here, there were people who tried to get to an outcome, and then there were bomb throwers, and the chaos caucus -- >> the outcome they came to embrace many of the goals of the people you call bomb throwers, and it basically emasculated the speaker or the speaker to be if he is to be, and he's going to be the weakest that we've seen in a very long time. >> everyone, stick around. we're going to see all of you again shortly as we wait to see what happens as the house comes back in session at 10:00 p.m. other big stories we want to tell you about in a moment. the evidence idaho authorities released they say points to bryan kohberger, this man, in the murders of those four college students in idaho. our gary tuchman is on the ground there and walk us through how it all fits together, the evidence presented thus far. also the latest on buffalo
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witness testimony. gary tuchman is in idaho tonight. he joins us now with a ground side perspective on how all that evidence may fit together. gary, talk about what you found. >> reporter: well, anderson, authorities have uncovered a lot of evidence in this case including an interview with a witness, a housemate who survived this rampage, referred to as d.m. in the affidavit. in the probable cause affidavit a moskow, idaho, police corporal said after finding the victims who were killed i noticed what appeared to be a tan leather knife sheath leaning on the bed. they uncovered a single match of dna on the knife sheath. according to the affidavit when police arrived they went through that door where the christmas wreath is. on the second floor to the right of the door is the bedroom
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where -- were killed. also on the second floor to the left of the back of the house according to the affidavit that's where the witness d.m. was. and finally on the third floor where that window right there according to the affidavit that's where kaylee gonclaves was. it appears koberinging has been here meantimes before. the affidavit reporting that his cellphone was detected before the murders. >> it wouldn't necessarily be suspicious bryan kohberger trove past this house 12 times over five months if these were busy or prominent streets or streets on a way to another neighborhood. but to come here you have to be looking for it. it doesn't connect to anywhere else. these roads are winding, they're
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narrow, they're curvy. in short it seems difficult to accidently end up here. the affidavit states that one of the students who survived would the initials d.m. heard crying and opened her door three times. she saw a figure clad in black clothing and a mask that covered the person's mouth and nose walking towards her. d.m. described the figure as 5'10" or taller, male, not m muscular but athleticically billed. she locked herself in the room after seeing the male. she did not state -- police asked law enforcement agencies it be on the lookout for a white hyundai elantra that had been seen near the murder site. four days later police discovered a white elantra in the parking lot across the state line. according to the affidavit it was registered to kohberger who lived up these stairs in this
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townhouse complex. police acquired his driver's license information, and they say according to the affidavit that it was consistent with d.m.'s description of the man he saw who was wearing black clothing and a mask. >> the affidavit does not contain information about motive or if the alleged killer knew any of victims, but authorities could very well have leads about those topics that are not being publicly released yet. >> gary, when is the suspect's next appearance in court? >> reporter: kohberger will be appearing in the courthouse behind me next thursday, anderson, for a status hearing to discuss scheduling. it's expected he'll be arraigned within the next two weeks where he'll issue a plea. anderson? >> gary, appreciate it. thank you. i'm joined now by john miller, cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst. a retired fbi special agent. john, one of the victim's fathers states to cnn he believes the suspect was hunting the victims.
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the word stalking was used i think in the affidavit. what do you make of what's come out of that evidence so far? >> i think what the affidavit tells us is about cellular telephone records and tower hits. it tells us about the number of times the car is seen there. so what you get from that, and mary can explain more about hunting behavior is the term. he's there 12 times at that area between august and the time of the murders, which is a long time to be kind of looking at your victims. during times suspects tend to fantasize not just about surveillance but fantasize what the crime is going to be like and how it's going to occur. you've got the cell records place him there, and then you have his car going by there numerous times not just on the night of the murder where it passes four times before the crime but a car that fits the description of his car as
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detected on video other times before. so if this individual is the killer he's been thinking about this and working on this for a long time. >> the father of one of the victims also mentioned he has no information suggesting the suspect was in contact with the victims. have you seen cases where an offender targets people he has no connection to especially over the course of months, just watches, chooss to watch somebody and eventually act? >> sure, absolutely. that's a way to access a victim. you just see them and you follow them to their home or to their office. so you know now where you can come back the next day and maybe follow them again. so you don't necessarily have to have an encounter at a pub or at a restaurant. you can just casually see someone along the street and then follow them, and they would never know. and then coming back on 12 separate occasions, that makes total sense to me because as john was pointing out, that's
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the way that they collect intelligence about what is going on in the house, who's coming and going, what doors do they come in from, who else is there, what are the other cars around? so in a case like this you have to have a realtime intelligence before you can make a safe entry. >> i also want to ask you about the knife sheath where the suspect's dna was found. you say you don't believe it's the dna that led to the arrest. >> that's right. i think that normally dna is the kind of evidence that can lead to the identity of the suspect. but, you know, you have to rely on this huge database called c codis which has over 14 million profiles. but if kohberger never committed the kind of crime, a felony that would cause him to end up on a database, if he's not there, then searching a database with that evdenchiary profile doesn't
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get you anyplace. i believe it was the vehicle and the cellphone, the combination of the two and tracking that vehicle all the way to pennsylvania and then going through the trash, finding an abandonment specimen, and that specimen was similar to the profile -- the evidentiary profile of the sheath. it was similar but not exactly the same. just eyeballing it one could see right away it was a fraternal relationship. in other words, the dna that came out of that trash in all brightville, pennsylvania, that dna came from the father of bryan. and so at this stage what they need to do is have a cheek swab from bryan kohberger and compare it to the dna from the button on -- and then it's an absolute match. >> and they were able to do that as soon as they had a warrant. >> they did that with the arrest. so when they do the arrest of
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bryan kohberger they're walking with three warrants, one to search this house in pennsylvania, two to search that car, the white elantra in the driveway, and three to take care and a swab from you for dna to confirm the familial match that had already been made. one thing on top of what mary ellen said when you talk about the stalking, the hunting behavior is this isn't your father's serial killer. today a lot of what mary ellen referred to as intelligence gathering if you went on the instagram page -- and i did -- of kaylee or matty there's hundreds, hundreds of pictures of where they went. by the way, i'm slightly exaggerating but not by much they're almost inducernable because almost all their pictures are together. i would guarantee you the
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suspect in this case is someone who spent a great deal of time on their social media which was open to anybody. you could really get in depth there. >> mary ellen john raises an interesting point and i hadn't thought much about this how social media, instagram, people documenting their lives it does aid who wants it follow somebody and maybe feel part of their life. >> right. and they would never know. they would have no information about who that person is. and if they intended to hurt them or to kill them, they simply would not know. so that could have been played and probably did play a critical role in this case to give the offender a great deal of information about them. and, again, i think knowing what their hours were, where their rooms were located, how you got access to that house, i think the offender was probably doing a pretty darn good job of developing intelligence. >> john, the killings were
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thought to have occurred i think between 4:00 and 425 a.m. authorities weren't called until around noon. we know the person known as d.m. by their initials saw killer around 4:00 a.m. does that time line make sense to you? >> it makes sense. i mean the question everybody is struggling with whether it's the father of kaylee and others is why didn't the witness who saw the murderer leave, call the police at that point? but that's in hindsight. we won't know that until she testifies at trial, but you can surmise she heard krieg from upstairs, the dog barking, she heard a male voice say it's okay i'm here to help you. she heard part of what might have been an argument. i mean it's possible she thought i don't know what's going on up there, but, you know, maybe somebody had an argument with somebody and this guy's leaving, i'm going to lock my door and go to bed. the killer literally returns to the scene in the morning to kind
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of check it out according to the affidavit, and the police haven't even been called yet nor have the murders been discovered. it's a very strange story. >> john miller, appreciate it. thanks so much. coming up medical update on bills safety damar hamlin breathing on his own, now talking and what he said with dr. sanjay gupta next.
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well, we fell in love through gaming. but now the internet lags and it throws the whole thing off. when did you first discover this lag? i signed us up for t-mobile home internet. ugh! but, we found other interests. i guess we have. [both] finch! let's go! oh yeah! it's not the same. what could you do to solve the problem? we could get xfinity? that's actually super adult of you to suggest. i can't wait to squad up. i love it when you talk nerdy to me. guy, guys, guys, we're still in session. and i don't know what the heck you're talking about. just look around. this digital age we're living in, it's pretty unbelievable. problem is, not everyone's fully living in it. nobody should have to take a class or fill out a medical form on public wifi with a screen the size of your hand. home internet shouldn't be a luxury. everyone should have it and now a lot more people can. so let's go.
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the digital age is waiting. we'll return to the speaker's vote shortly. right now the latest on demar hamlin. four days after the buffalo bills safety collapsed on the field after a brutal hit led to cardiac arrest, hamlin has had his breathing tube removed and now able to talk. he surprised his team today with a face time chat. here's the bills head coach on that emotional moment. >> the thing that makes me laugh is he did this to the guys, you know, right away. he flexed -- he flexed all of them, i guess, and he's just got some staple things that they know him for and he does. and he pedestrian made the heart symbol probably more than
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everything and then gave a thumbs up so -- and then some were in the midst of that and it was a really hard to hear, but as you imagine he said i love you, boys. and of course i think that got the guys. >> one teammate told reporters seeing hamlin and hearing him talk took them from the saddest you can really feel to the happiest, that's a quote. the bills say doctors believe hamlin is progressing remarkably. the nfl said during the games this weekend teams will show league wide support for hamlin. for more on what his medical condition i'm joined by chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. when you hear hamlin was actually able to speak to teammates, make this face time call, in a spence pretty remarkable. >> it is remarkable. you know, and doctors i think are hesitant to use terms like that often because you want to take each patient individually, but 2 1/2 days after that cardiac arrest on the field, minutes of cpr, defibrillation.
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his lungs were so affected they had to put him in a prone position, those are signs he was quite ill as the doctors have been very transparent about. but then overnight seemed to have a significant improvement and, you know, lots of obviously progress today. so it's pretty remarkable, and it bodes well i think going forward. >> and the milestone of having someone's breathing tube removed, uwhat's the standard fr that? >> two important standards for that. one i guess obvious, they're breathing on their own. they don't need assistance to breathe anymore. last night we talked about the fact once the fluid, if you think about the lungs being sponges of fluid, fill those sponges they become boggy, hard to ventilate. they're in good enough shape now they could have the breathing tube out. the second thing a bit more subtle but someone could have good functioning lungs so conscious or sedated they can't protect their airway. so he's got to be awake enough to protect their airway.
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that's the standard for taking the breathing tube out and you passed that test today. >> as you said it's been really days since hamlin was resuscitated. what do doctors look for now in terms of his recovery, in terms of the next steps? >> one of the big things we did learn over the next day his central nervous system, brain and spinal cord appear to be working really well. funny when you hear coach mcdermott doing this sign, as a neuro surgeon i think, okay, that's giving indication what a spinal cord can do, how he's responding to commands, and it's all very good. but other organs, the liver, the kidney, there's still going to be testing as we heard from the doctors on what may have been the genesis of all this as well. we still don't know. is there some pre-existing condition that could have predisposed him to this. pretty clearly it was related to the hit he took on the field. but then we heard he had a pulse for a period of time after that,
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and he became pulseless while they were assessing him on the field. what causes all that, that's going to be part of the investigation going forward. >> so there's no way to know a time line for him actually getting out of around the clock care? >> well, you know, when you're in the -- in the icu you're getting around the clock care, and once you're off the breathing machine and not requiring medications to sort of stimulate your heart, he's probably going to go to the general care floor, which is still in the hospital but not icu care. and once he's able to essentially do things independently, walk around, be able to feed himself, do all those sorts of things independently, that's usually a sign that, you know, he can be out of the acute care hospital. he may still need some rehab, you know, just even a few days you may need some conditioning, but i would say within the next few day. and look, you and i were talking last night and these things are measured in weeks as opposed to hours and days. but he clearly is recovering
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quickly. a 24-year-old guy who's a professional athlete has that physiology it's clearly so far working in his favor. i think the doctors are going to stay cautious but moving along quickly. >> coming up more revelations on prince harry's new memoir before it even hits book shelves. to an issue about his military service. that's next. intelligent technology. courageous performance. discover a new world of possibilities in the all-new lexus rx. ner lose your edge. mckenzie: eliza, she's the little ray of sunshine. her laugh is full of joy and love.
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continuing to watch developments on capital hill. we're waiting the house to be back in session which is expected in just over an hour, kevin mccarthy is focussing on holdouts, hopes to have a vote before the night is over. we're also following the details that came out about prince harry's memoir which goes into book stores tuesday. i spoke with the duke of sussex in a 60 minutes interview that airs sunday night on cbs. a number of details have already leaked from a number of publications in various parts of the world. details about an altercation
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between prince harry and william in an argument. senior correspondent foster joins us now. >> reporter: from the serious sot salacious, harry's memoir released. we learned that he lost his virginity to a woman when he was 17. "one of my mistakes was let ting happen in a field just behind a busy pub. harry opens up about princess diana's death, he visited the site and the car crash that killed high school mother. according to an excerpt in people magazine. and thought driving the tunnel would bring an end to the pain, the decade of unrelenting pain, he writes. by harry's own admission, he may be oversharing but that's what makes this book remarkable. and that's brits are simple that tick." >> he's showing that he's a
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real person and he's not afraid to embrace that, i think that's pretty brave. >> he's a good person at heart, even though i don't know him. >> i think more people should be like harry. >> the tabloids are having a field day and harry is not surprised. it was a newspaper that ex-positioned his relationship with meghan, and since then it's been war. >> i had no idea the british brew press were so big gotted. >> and he killed as a soldier in afghanistan has created a back-lash among some of thinks comrades. >> sanding and saying, i killed 25 taliban, he has concerns about his security and makes a public announcement is worse. >> harry completed two tours in afghanistan. it's this criticism that may sting him the most. and there are more revelations to come. two big
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interview this weekend, another on monday, all part of the buildup to the official book launch tuesday, anderson. >> max, thank you so much. i'm one of those interviews. program note, join me monday night on this program for a special report on prince harry his life and the riff between him and the royal family and other details from his book. that special includes my conversation with the prince for sunday's edition of "60 minutes". watch that on cbs. the 360 special on harry airs monday night. 8:00 p.m. on cnn. don't go anywhere because the house of representatives will gavel back. the question is will kevin mccarthy's gruelling battle finish in triumph. the answerer we don't yet know.
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