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viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. just ahead on "cnn newsroom," president biden at the border, yet he somehow managed not to meet any migrants. we will look at how he's dealing with an issue that's angering both the right and the left. insurrection in brazil. scenes eerily similar to those on january 6th in washington. and tributes across the country interest u.s. football's damar hamlin. we will bring you highlights from a game that couldn't have been scripted any better for his buffalo bills as he fights to recover from his cardiac arrest. good to have you with us. one of the most controversial issues he faces back home will be front and center when u.s. president joe biden attends a
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regional summit. mr. biden has arrived in mexico city where he will meet with his counter parts from mexico and canada later today. they will cover a number of pressing topics including the recent surge in migration. the president addressed that issue on sunday when he visited the u.s. border in el paso, texas. he spoke with workers at a migrant processing center, but notably he did not appear to meet with migrants themselves. a senior administration official told cnn that was completely coincidental that the center did not have any that day. mr. biden also inspected the iron fence between mexico and the u.s. and pledged more government support. it comes as he faces criticism for failing to address the spike in border crossings. >> the president who caused the chaos at the border needed to be here. it just so happens he's two
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years and about $20 billion too late. unless we can enforce the immigration laws already enforced in the united states of america contained in the letter provided to the president today. >> back in washington u.s. house republicans face a new hurdle following last week's grueling fight to elect a new speaker. it's an important vote on the rules package, which establishes the rules and committees for the 118th congress and how congress will govern over the next two years under republican control. the rules package includes some of the concessions kevin mccarthy made in order to win enough support from his fellow republicans to secure the speakership. one major concession allows for any lawmaker to call for a vote to remove the speaker at any time. some republicans worry it will weaken mccarthy's hand. >> certainly it's going to be a challenge to have a conference full of independent thinkers
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with a thin majority. >> well, meantime the new house democratic leader hakeem jeffries says he's ready to work with republicans in the wake of mccarthy's chaotic scramble to the speakership. >> we look forward to trying to find some reasonable republicans who are willing to break from the extreme element of their conference to do the business of the american people. >> and joining me now from los angeles cnn legal analyst and civil rights attorney areva martin and political commentator and radio show host mo kelly. good to see you both. >> good evening. >> hi, rosemary. >> mo kelly, it took kevin mccarthy 15 votes to eventually win the much coveted seat of house speaker. what can we expect from that vote do you think?
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>> well, i would expect more chaos. dr. king said it best that a genuine leader is a molder of consensus not a searcher for consensus and right now kevin mccarthy doesn't have unity within his own conference and i'm not sure they respect him or even like him. if anything he's made what i would call a devil's grand bargain with the freedom caucus and i'm not so sure thoey're going to stay within the bargains, the concessions he's made. >> take us through the concessions made by mccarthy to that small band of extreme right-wing republicans. did he give away too much power rendering himself essentially a lame duck? >> yeah, it seems that way, rosemary. we don't know all the particulars about what the deal is, and i think mo is right when he says the deal was made basically with the devil. what we do know, however, though is that the extremist in the republican party now have more
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control than they've ever had, and they've vowed to use that power to do things such as make it very difficult for the government to raise the debt ceiling, which could cause the incredible economic turmoil not only in the united states but across the world. they have vowed to make cuts to programs like social security and health care, and they've also vowed to engage in what we know to be these very baseless investigations. they call it investigating the weaponization of the fbi. they're going to not only try to investigate the fbi but also the justice department, and potentially those investigations that are going on in the justice department against donald trump will become the subject of the republicans as they setout on this course to, you know, engage in these endless investigations. so i think we have a lot more turmoil ahead of us. >> president joe biden visited
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the border sunday, his first time there as president. what did it actually achieve if anything considering he didn't meet with any migrants? >> let's be honest the immigration issue is a losing issue for the democrats. and i think to be fair some of that is the democrats fault. we can go back to former president barack obama who campaigned not once but twice two different times on immigration reform, comprehensive immigration reform. he never attempted it in earnest and never got it done. and now it falls to joe biden. without comprehensive immigration reform it'll not get better for him or the country more broadly. there's the issue of the migrants at the border right now, the issue of undocumented people within america from years past and the issue of people who have yet to come to the border and the democrats don't seemingly have any answers or options right now. >> and areva, president biden's trip to the border came as this humanitarian crisis is
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worsening, migrants sleeping on the cold streets of el paso. but did mr. biden see the real crisis given he didn't actually visit migrants, he didn't talk to migrants on the streets, but instead saw a much more sanitized version of the situation at the border, didn't he? >> yeah, despite what may have happened on this one trip no doubt joe biden has a very clear understanding about the gravity of the migrant crisis that the u.s. is facing. but i don't think it's fair to try to place all the blame on democrats with respect to the immigration issues that we currently face in the united states. the republicans like to complain a lot. they like to make theater and drama with the immigration crisis like sending immigrants to the vice president's house, sending them to washington, sending them to new york, sending them to other states. but they do very little. when they had control of the house, when they had donald trump in the white house, they took very little actions to actually do anything with
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respect to the immigration crisis. so i don't think we should blame the democrats without looking at the blame that should be placed on the republicans as well. and given how fractured the republican party is at this point, we should not expect there to be any efforts on the part of the republicans to address not only the immigration issues but other issues such as the economy, voting suppression. there's so many issues important to the american people. if they cannot elect a leader without 15 attempts and without almost coming to blows on the floor of the u.s. congress, i don't think we should expect anything from the republican-led congress. >> and mo, next the president goes to mexico for a summit he'll meet with our country's leader and others to discuss the border and drug smuggling and improving security at the border. what do you expect to come out of that summit? >> very little. i would expect a press conference and acknowledge what areva said, it is true. it's not just the problem of the democrats. the republicans did have an opportunity to address this and
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failed to do so. but to answer your question, rosemary, directly, i don't think much will come out of it. because, yes, there's something we can do possibly with our allies to make sure fewer people will approach the border, but we still have to deal with the issue inside america because people are going to come seeking asylum and more. and our laws have not changed so there's no reason for their behavior to change approaching the border. >> what do you think at the border and is there any political will to help the more desperate migrants waiting anxiously at the border for some movement on title 42? >> sadly, rosemary, i don't think there's a will in the country to do anything. and as long as we remain as fractured as we are between democrats and republicans and republicans in their own party i don't think you're going to see much movement as it relates to the immigrant crisis. hopefully they'll continue to be humanitarian efforts to help people coming into this country, and hopefully we'll stop with the hypocrisy, all these attacks
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on immigrants but yet no recognition of the tremendous role they play in the building and sustaining of so many industries in this country. >> many thanks to you both for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you. well, mr. biden also reacted to protests in brazil that are drawing comparisons to the january 6th riots at the u.s. capitol. a top brazilian official says the riots in brazil are now over after hours of hundreds of supporters of the former leader jair bolsanaro stormed key government buildings. unrest spilled into the night with police using tear gas to disperse the crowd. earlier they breached security barriers and broke into the congress, the presidential palace and the supreme court. one official says at least 400 people have been arrested. world leaders are condemning the violence and expressing their support for brazil's newly elected president. president biden called the situation an assault on
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democracy and on the peaceful transfer of power in brazil. well, brazil's supreme court has now ordered the armed forces to dismantle all camps belonging to bolsanaro's supporters across the country within 24 hours and is calling on police to arrest any protesters still left inside. cnn's rafael romo is tracking developments and has more now on the unrest in the capital. >> reporter: brazil boiling over. supporters of former brazilian president jair bolsanaro stormed key buildings sunday reaching barriers and temporarily occupying the country's congress, presidential palace, and supreme court. masses of protesters flooded the country's seat of power, many dressed in the colors of brazil's flag, yellow and green, fueled by anger and distrust over bolsanaro's defeat in a runoff election last october where he loss by less than 2
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percentage points to desylva. protesters threw objects while clashing with police. this is one protester was seen sitting at the desk of brazil's congress president. cnn brazil reports the floor of the congress building was flooded after the sprinkler system activated when protesters attempted to set fire to the carpet. by evening police began dispersing the rioters from buildings and arrested hundreds of people who were detained in buses before being taken to the police station. president luna desylvia who was iginaugurated just a week ago described the events as barbaric and vowed to punish the people responsible. >> translator: those people that we call fascists, we call them everything that's abominable in politics. they invaded the government headquarters and they invaded the congress like vandals destroying everything in their
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path. >> reporter: the president also blamed his predecessor for the lack of security in the capital where bolsanaro's supporters have been camped out for over a week. bolsanaro who's currently in florida denounced what he called the degradations of public buildings in a tweet adding that peaceful and lawful demonstrations a part of democracy. but critics say he may have stirred up the crowds with repeatedly saying without evidence he questioned the country's electronic system. last year's presidential election is still unfinished business for some brazilian and a sign just how divided the country is. rafael romo, cnn, atlanta. the nfl's buffalo bills treated fans to an absolute thriller in their first game since teammate damar hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest last week. they defeated their division rivals, the new england patriots 35-23 on sunday, and hamlin got to see it all watching the game from his hospital bed in
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cincinnati while tweeting out his support. hamlin was in the thoughts and prayers of nfl fans and players throughout the country as they each did their own tribute to hamlin during the last week of the regular season. for highlights and details from the bill's emotional victory, here's coy wire. >> reporter: this was no longer just a game, this was a celebration of life as the bill's head coach sean mcdermott described it, buffalo's first game since number 3 damar hamlin suffered cardiac arrest on the field this week and the power of 3 was everywhere, players holding flags, wearing patches, fans holding hand crafted signs. and damar's image popped up on the jumbo tron, also a powerful moment when the medical and training staff who pounced into position to save damar's life were honored given an ovation as
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loud as i've ever heard. and on the opening play of the game, goose bumps. here's what happened on the field since -- >> cuts it back to 25 and got an alley to the 40, 50, down to the 40, 35, 20, 15, 10, 5. 96 yards. >> reporter: it had been three years and three months since the bills had lost done that taking a kick off for a touch down. hamlin watching from the hospital tweeting god behind all this, no coincidence. but that wasn't all. naheme himes would return another kick off for a touch down for a second game. bills would go onto win 35-23. next stop playoffs. here's the bills star
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quarterback josh allen with his reaction to that new touch down on the opening play of the game. >> it was spiritual, it really was. bone chilling, like it was special. the whole way i think the nation came together in support of damar and, you know, we've had a lot of talks that maybe we wouldn't have had without something like this happening. i've been told by kevin kerns it's been three years and three months since the last kick off return, so pretty cool. >> reporter: there's something pretty cool happening here in buffalo. it's been an emotional roller coaster for this team, from this city. to the tears of fear to start the week to the tears of joy and outpouring of support we see now. but one heart may have stopped that made the whole world come together to boat as one the toy
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emergency declaration. >> we're anticipating some very intense weather coming in tomorrow, tomorrow evening in particular into the early hours of tuesday morning. and that's the imperative that we're trying to express here is the seriousness of purpose in terms of just being safe and being thoughtful. >> officials in san francisco are concerned more rain could cause sinkholes and mudslides. >> reporter: this is the calm before the storm. the problem is less and less time between these storms. officials here in san francisco telling people to be ready for power outages and for possibly very dangerous driving conditions. the ground is already saturated, so when you add more rain to all of this, there's the possibility of mudslides and even sinkholes, two things that have already happened here in san francisco. officials also say they're very concerned about communication and outages there.
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here is the executive director of san francisco's department of emergency services. >> many of the infrastructure for even communications that's our cell and internet is underground. and so as we get more inundation from the rain, we're seeing more failure around those what we call lifeline systems. >> reporter: and last week downtown san francisco had the wettest ten-day period on record since 1871. we are expecting more rain over the next couple of days. already meteorologist saying they saw about a foot of rain since december 1st. now they're saying 3 to 5 more inches in the next five days. many people here especially near the ocean already preparing with sandbags. but the reality is a lot of people in this area just don't know how to deal with this amount of rain. camila bernal, cnn, san francisco. >> meantime weather officials say the multiple storm systems have set the stage for what
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could become a high impact event. cnn meteorologist derek van dam explains. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. anytime you hear the national weather service from san francisco use the term high impact event, you know the storm means business. just look at this water vapor imagery. here's the state of california. it looks like mother nature is about to go bolling and about to throw a strike into california. it's literally directing a plume of moisture into the central and northern portions of of the state, and this will not be a 12-hour event. we're talking about 48 hours or more of relentless rain and snow as well as wind. weather prediction center picking up on that. they have increased their area of coverage of a moderate risk. that's a level three of four for flash flooding from san francisco southward into los angeles, and by the way that extends into tuesday for southern california in and around l.a. about 30 million people impacted by this with flood alerts
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stretching from north all the way to south as this plume of moisture oscillates from the north to the south from monday into the day on tuesday. and then another round of precipitation sets up behind it. i'm showing you these rainfall totals over the past two weeks just to hammer it home to you it's been extremely wet for california lately. so cumulatively any additional rain will lead to, well, let's see excessive runoff. let's say high river flows, right? well, that's in fact the forecast for these rain gauges. anywhere you see that shading of purple they're anticipating major flood stages for some of the rivers in and around central california. rainfall totals here with this latest atmospheric river event 4 to 6 inches right along the coast, and snowfall will be measured in feet. if you are traveling along interstate 80 from reno to sacramento, for instance, find alternative plans because it'll
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be next to impossible. and by the way those totals in that mountain those are not typos, over 90 inches, maybe 5 feet or more in those locations. it's not only rain, not only snow. the vulnerable areas, the high altitudes of the sierra, nevada mountain range could see wind gusts in excess of 100 miles per hour and make travel virtually impossible for those locations. of course this amount of rain has done quite a dent in our drought. brazil's government buildings are now skew after brazil arrested hundreds of protesters who violently stormed those buildings. we'll have more from sao paolo after the break. stay with us.
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welcome back, everyone. well, more now on one of our biggest stories this hour. brazil's president has visited the presidential palace and the supreme court and he is vowing to punish hundreds of protesters hours after supporters of former president jair bolsanaro breached security barriers and stormed into both of those buildings as well as congress. some smashed windows and used furniture as barricades against security force. police used tear gas to get things under control and have arrested at least 400 people. president lula de silva called the unrest barbaric, and bolsanaro also denounced what he called the invasions of public buildings. and now the supreme court has ordered all bolsanaro's camps to be abolished and protesters
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there to be arrested within 24 hours. let's get more now from cnn's -- parallels have been made between what happened in brazil's capital sunday and what played here in the united states capitol on january 6, 2021, with far right supporters of former president bauls noro storming the capital, protesting the election results. while the leadership style of bolsanaro has actually been compared to that of donald trump, bolsanaro did actually condemn the violence. is it fair to say this was brazil's january 6th or not? >> reporter: the moment is different, but definitely, yes, i should say it's our january 6th. it's good to be talking with you here. actually i dare to say what he faced yesterday is even worse
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while you have like two years ago not just because the national congress was stormed but also the presidential palace and the supreme court like they get attacked and this main building was invaded by these people. actually it start 3:00 p.m. on sunday here, people that support jair bolsanaro they didn't accept he lost the election last october. and then they invaded the three buildings that is located in brazil -- the capital of brazil. for those who don't know the place this building is located in the same square. in english it means three
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powers, and people were there and at the beginning they couldn't repel these people. they failed. and after a long day police could clear this building, and president de silva, he wasn't at the capital. it was on the other side of the state and intervention after terrorist attacks and for that reason we have at least 300 people was arrested until now. but actually police are investigating to identify more people that we actually know that participated and invaded the capital of brazil.
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these people support bolsanaro they were camping at the capital of brazil since last october when he lost the election. >> all right, and many thanks for bringing us up-to-date. ukraine is denying claims from moscow hundreds of ukrainian soldiers were killed in a recent air strike. that story and more straight ahead in a live report. so u bring ubrelelvy. it can quickly stop migraine in its tracks s within 2 hours.. without worrying if it's too late or where you u are. unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks a protein believed to be a cause of migraine. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. most common side effects were nausea and tiredness. migraine pain relief starts with u. learn how abbvie can help you save. ask about ubrelvy, the anytime, anywhere migraine medicine.
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line. also on sunday ukraine and russia exchanged 100 prisoners of war 15 from each side. this is the 36th such swap. meantime ukraine is dismissing moscow's claims that a russian strike killed hundreds of ukrainian soldiers in cr krematorsk. ukraine says there's no evidence to back up russia's claims that a large number of key soldiers were killed in a russian attack. what more are you learning about this? >> well, independent journalists, rosemary, have been to the scene and visited this supposed set of barracks that russia claimed it hit. it also claims that 600 soldiers of the ukrainian army were killed in this particular strike, and independent journalists and various observers have said, well, there's no evidence that
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soldiers were actually sleeping there and there's no evidence of casualty, blood on the scenes, and there's also no evidence that these particular missiles, rockets, if you like, actually hit the buildings at all. it seemed as though some of them actually missed their original target. this claim appears to be rubbish by ukraine and appears to have been confirmed by various supporters including as you said by cnn. the question is why would russia put forward these claims? well, it might well be for their domestic political audience because remember just a week or so ago on new year's day russia eventually had to admit that 89 of its soldiers had been killed after a strike by ukraine on barracks where they were staying or an encampment, if you like. many of them were constripts if not most of them, and there was this embarrassing incident where russia appeared to initially blame these particular soldiers for having been detected saying they had been using their cellphones in a manner they
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weren't supposed to be doing and such their positions were detected. that was swiftly rebuffed by ukraine as well. there's a bit of propaganda and disinformation game going on here. as of course, the west continues and ukraine continues to be on high alert for a mobilization of russian counter offense now that this unilateral cease-fire has come and gone over the course of the orthodox christmas rebuffed again by ukraine as a ploy to regroup and rearm by moscow and also people looking further afield as the anniversary of this invasion gets going. obviously there's concerns that there should be some accountability for russian troops for their actions there, and that is why we're now seeing talk of a big meeting at the international criminal court and various justice ministers set to take place in the u.k. in the next couple of months, rosemary. >> nina, thanks for that report, appreciate it. for our international viewers "world sport" is up next.
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support for protesters in iran. this as international outrage grows over tehran's bloody crack down on descent. the iranian government killed two -- people say the brutally must stop. >> they're just protesting and fighting for freedom, and they're just killing them. they're executing people just because they're fighting for freedom. >> it is beyond belief the things they're doing to these young human beings who are only merely asking for basic rights, for freedom just to breathe, freedom to just have the right to live, not to be hassled every time you go especially as a
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woman. >> hollywood stars are also slamming the iranian government. more than 50 have called have an end to executions in an online campaign. here's a clip from their video. ♪ joining me now from new york an iranian american actress and activist. thank you so much for talking with us. >> thank you. >> now, we just saw a portion of your social media video which includes more than 50 hollywood stars including kate blanchered, jason momoa, samuel l. jackson and others in a call to end the execution of iranian protesters fighting for freedom in their country. what all do you think this video
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can achieve? what's your hope here? >> well, we want to draw attention to the cause in the broadest possible way by using the power of celebrity voices. and, you know, the islamic republic thinks it can get away with this because historically it has. and by making a video like this and getting celebrities involved, we're letting them know the international community is watching them. >> and if iranian authorities are watching you right now, what is your message to them about the ongoing execution of these protesters who are just fighting for freedom in their own country? >> you know, what i would say is their previous tactics that may have worked in the past, they're no longer effective. they've shutdown the internet. they don't allow foreign journalists in. but this movement has still been sustained by the iranian
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diaspora at large and obviously by the people in the streets who have not backed down. in fact, every -- every tactic they seem to be employing seems to embolden the iranian people even more. >> so what would you like to see the international community do to help pressure iran, to stop these executions? do you think enough is being done at this juncture? >> well, i think that the average person can, you know, just post and hashtag and share and help spread the word. that really does achieve a lot. and if also helps keep this in the conversation and put pressure on politicians. and what politicians really should be doing is sending a much stronger signal to the islamic republic of iran. they should be recalling their ambassadors. they should be downgrading diplomatic relations with iran. these are the kinds of things they should be doing to send a very strong message that this will not be tolerated. >> so you don't feel enough is
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being done at the international level then, that individual nations are doing enough? >> no, not enough, not at all. the iranian government -- i mean tonight there are two more protesters that are -- there are reports they're at imminent risk of execution. you know, large crowds have driven to the prison. they're chanting for everyone you kill a thousand will spring up in its place. you know, they're trying everything they can right now as we speak to stop two executions from happening. and the message from the international community has not -- has not been strong enough and clearly has not deterred the ira. >> and what do you plan to do next to keep fighting for protesters and keep this issue front and center? >> i mean for the last several months every iranian in the diaspora has become and all of
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time that we can to this movement. i plan to continue to keep a spotlight on the executions as much as i can using the resources available to me, as somebody who works in hollywood, somebody who works in this medium and, you know, continue to do as much as i can to keep spreading this message. >> do you think the day will come sooner rather than later freedom for the people of iran? >> i think the day will come. i cannot speak to the timing of it. but we feel very, very hopeful. this is the first time in 43 years that something like this even seems remotely possible. >> thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. well, prince harry is revealing more about his relationship with his family ahead of the release of his
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memoir "spare." the duke of sussex says he hasn't spoken to his brother, prince william, and father king charles for a while now. he also says he's changed since he met wiz wife meghan markle, the duchess of sussex, but he's happy he did. >> a large part of it for the family but also for the british press and numerous other people is like he's changed, she must be a witch. he's changed. as opposed to, yeah, i did change. i'm really glad i changed because rather than getting drunk, falling out of clubs, taking drugs i have now found the love of my life, and i now have the opportunity to start a family with her. >> and for more we want to go to cnn's bianca nobilo who joins us live from london. it's certainly proving to be a tell-all book, isn't it? what other details of his life is prince harry sharing with the
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world? >> reporter: plenty, rosemary. and it's not harry's life we hear throughout the book in these interviews references to prince william as well, how they both dealt with their mother's death, how they both wanted to further investigate the circumstances of that, and then how their relationship de deteriorated as time goes on. we hear more in these interviews about the overarching concern of prince harry, and that is the british press and tabloids as the chief an tagnist in his life that he triattributes most of h difficulties in his life. he discusses how right from the beginning there was skepticism when it came to prince william and the princess of wales. take a listen. >> well, they've shown absolutely no willingness to reconcile up until this point and i'm not sure how honesty is
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burning bridges. you know, silence only allows the abuser to abuse, right? so i don't know how staying silent is ever going to make things better. that's genuinely what i believe. american actress, right? and that was playing out in the british press in the media at the time as well. so, you know, the fact that i had that in the back of my mind and some of the things my brother and sister-in-law, some of the ways they were acting or behaving definitely felt to me definitely that stereotype was causing a bit of a barrier to them in really sort of introducing or welcoming her. >> what do you mean specifically? >> well, american actress, divorced, biracial. there's all different parts to that and what that can mean. but if you are like a lot of my family do, if you're reading the press, the british tabloids at the same time as living the life, then there is a tendency where you can actually end up living in the tabloid bubble rather than the actual reality.
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>> rosemary, the anguish harry speaks about his mother death is still palpable today as you might expect. and obviously the paparazzi and press' involvement in that. perhaps something in which people in the united kingdom are struggling with, though, how prince harry says he would love to have his father and brother back and rebuild relationships and he doesn't intend through this book or media blitz to do anything damaging to his family, but i think you and the viewers and i know dramatically the nature of these stories is damaging to the british monarchy and their reputation. >> yeah, most definitely. it's hard to understand how he can ever really build a bridge between himself, his brother, and his father. bianca, with prince harry and his wife meghan talking so much about wanting this private life why are we seeing so many
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private details being shared? how does he explain that apparent contradiction? and will the royal familsilent blitz, do you in the two interviews we've seen with itv or "60 minutes" although there appears to be an admission harry and meghan weren't in fact seeking privacy but more to have control over their own story. some of the contradictions or confusion people are pointing to, though, is the fact for example harry explains one of the things in which he and his wife found so hurtful is the palace wouldn't speak out to did dispel negative or untrue stories appearing in the press about harry and meghan. however, something which we had that was new in one of these interviews was the fact addressing those particularly incendiary remarks thin oprah winfrey when meghan spoke about a member of prince harry's family expressing concerns of
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how dark their child's skin would be he and meghan didn't in fact view that as racism, they thought it would be an unconscious bias at most, so they hadn't spoken out to address all the racist allegations which then unfurled about the royal family. there were contradictions about whether the royal palace would speak out. it feels like the communication strategies from both of these camps is so different now, and the royal family are likely not to want to fan the flames of these scandals. >> just such a massive chasm between the two camps. thank you for joining us. i'm rosemary church. i'll be back with more news after a short break. you're watching cnn. it was just so easy to find a car withinin my budget. i'm just happy i was able to pick this baby. good on ya! we'll drive you happy at carvana.
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