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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ the barnes firm injury attorneys ♪ breaking news tops the hour. turns out the former president is not the only one with classified documents problem. the current president has one as well, stemming from his time as vice president. they were discovered last fall in a private office in washington, that he used as part of his relationship with the university of pennsylvania, where he was an honorary professor from 2017 to 2019. attorney general garland has asked a u.s. attorney to investigate. republicans are reacting. so far the former president and the democratic chairman of the house committee has called this, quote, a problem and deep concern. evan perez share it is biline of the story. he joins us now. what more do you know about the documents that were found? >> anderson, we know at least some of the documents were
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classified at a level tssci, which stands for sensitive compartmented information. this is information that comes from spell jens sources and is designed to be kept in secure locations, one of which presumably is not a office in the vice president's -- what was then the vice president's office at the penn biden center. so, that's the reason why this is now being looked into by the justice department, by the u.s. attorney, john laush in chicago. he's a trump appointee who's been kept on doing various investigations. and now he and the fbi are going to take a look at this. they're doing a review to see -- do a damage assessment, so to speak, which is a standard way of handling these types of things. according to the white house, they're cooperating they say this was found back in november, as the president's legal team was trying to close down this office at the university of
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pennsylvania and that as soon as they determined these documents were, they say, fewer than a dozen, they turned it over to the national archives, which then asked the justice department to look into it. >> now, a number of republicans and others are making comparisons to the former president's issues with classified documents and the search at mar-a-lago. how does it compare? how does it differ? >> there's some big differences, right? according to the biden white house, they're saying there are fewer than a dozen documents. in the trump investigation, which is still an ongoing investigation, we have seen from court documents that we're talking over 300 documents, including 92 that were at the highest level of classification. so, that's part of what is a big difference here. another difference is that the archives, the national archives and the fbi and the justice department went around with various routes with the trump legal team over a period of months, trying to get them to
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turn over the information, to turn over the documents, and the former president was refusing. in the end, they carried out that extraordinary search we saw at mar-a-lago because the justice department said it found indications, or evidence, that people were moving boxes out of this secure location that these documents were supposed to be held. that's a vast difference from what the white house is describing happened here, which is that the president's legal team found these documents. they say they turned them over to the national archives the following day, anderson. >> evan perez, appreciate it. thanks. president biden is in mexico tonight, where he was asked about the story. >> can you comment on the documents, sir? >> so, with that non-answer, let's go to cnn's phil mattingly. while the president did not address this tonight, what is the white house saying about these documents? >> anderson, i think we should probably get used to non-answers, in part because this is a white house and a president that have gone to great lengths not to have the
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perception of trying to get involved in anything the justice department does. that will certainly be the case here. however, they did put out an on the record statement that is very detailed in its time line. that detail carries some intent behind it implicitly in the sense of just how sharply it diverges from what the former president is dealing with right now. in that time line noting that these documents were discovered as this office was being closed out. a call was immediately placed to the counsel's office. that was the first time that president biden became aware the documents existed, still does not know what the documents entailed up to this point. by the next morning, the archives was at the penn center picking up those documents. as this review goes on, white house officials say they are going to continue to cooperate. the president's lawyers have continued to cooperate. another critical difference they made clear is that these documents were never requested. they were never sought. they were turned down for those.
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they were found and immediately turned over. in terms of how much more we're going to hear from them at this point, it seems like very little, despite a very politically toxic issue, anderson. >> what's the reaction or has there been reaction from the former president? >> i'm intrigued by the question, has there been reaction. yes, the president very quickly posting, when is the fbi going to raid the many homes of joe biden, perhaps even the white house? to some degree, you expect republicans, as evan was laying out, but also the former president to talk about this repeatedly. and that has certainly been the case. in the president's statement he underscores one of the critical differences here. the reason why the fbi raid occurred is because the documents were not turned over, despite requests, despite turning over some of the documents. some still remained at mar-a-lago. that has not been the case, at least as white house officials have laid things out up to this point. this underscores a reality that white house officials are keenly aware of. this is becoming a political issue very quickly, already has to some degree.
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that is part of why the statement that was released by the counsel's office was so detailed. it's something they're going to have to grapple with in the weeks ahead. >> we're joined by elliott williams, also senior legal analyst, elie honig, also jamie gangel, who did some of the reporting on this, and david axelrod. elie, let's talk about, legally, how big of a deal is this? >> potentially a very big deal both for joe biden and for donald trump. there's a lot we need to know, anderson, and the details matter. there could be a lot of differences between the scenarios. did joe biden know? what was the purpose? how did the documents get there? how many were there? were they cooperative or obstructive? on paper, those could make the difference between something that is criminal or not criminal. we don't live on paper, nor do prosecutors. and you have to look at this -- i look at this through a political lens and a reality lens, which is is merrick garland, who is going to have the say here, who is known for
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nothing if not being averse to politics. he wants nothing that appears to be political. is he going to give his own boss, the person who put him in the position as attorney general, a pass and at the same time try to lock up the person who's running against him? >> he appointed a trump-appointed prosecutor, didn't he? >> he did. he kept on a trump-appointed u.s. attorney from illinois, who's sort of serving almost as a special counsel here. but ultimately, the end decision, the bottom line, do i indict or not, going to merrick garland's call. >> david, what is your reaction as someone who worked in the obama/biden administration. what do you recall about how that administration handled classified documents? >> look, i don't know exactly how this went down. we all were very well informed about how to handle documents. everyone had saves with classified information was stored. even documents that weren't classified, we were lectured all
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the time about the handling of those and what we could and couldn't take with us when we left the white house. so, i don't know how exactly this happened. i mean, it sounds, in the telling, a lot more benign than what we know of what happened with president trump in that the biden folks found these documents and immediately notified authoritys that they had them. but in the mishmash of today's politics and what aboutism, i'm sure that this will become fodder for those who want to blunt the threat to donald trump. >> elie, the national archives referred them to the doj for further investigation. what questions need to be answered right now? i mean, elie covered some of them. >> i think it all gets down to intent, anderson. look, someone who accidentally commits an offense for the most part and for most crimes is not and should not be charged with a crime. let's go back to former
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president trump. if he truly was inadvertent in the retention of the documents, he shouldn't be charged with a crime either. the problem for the former president is that there's a growing body of evidence that number one, he or others around him sought to obstruct the investigation into the retention of documents or number two, aided in the retention of the documents. what the justice department needs to look into is number one, who might have touched or been around or known about the documents. number two, why did they get there in the first place? and how? and number three, was some of this accidental. we all, picking up on david's point, as former members of the administration or government employees, are given instruction as to how to retain documents, what to do with them when they're in our care. but certainly mistakes happen. if they do, they shouldn't be charged as crimes. but again, once -- we have to find out more as to sort of what went behind all of this before charging the decision.
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>> jamie, at this stage, how big an issue do you think this could become for the biden administration? obviously republicans -- you've heard from republicans on capitol hill who have been commenting about this. >> look, this is no question a political gift to donald trump and a political gift to the republicans up on the hill. and they are going to talk it and run with it. i just want to go back to something that david axelrod said, the mishmash of politics. i think there's going to be more mash than mish here. but i spoke to a source -- >> which is worse? >> i'm not sure. we will see. but i spoke to a source very familiar with how the national archives has worked with situations like this in the past. and this is not a political person. this is a professional person. and they pointed out, you know what? the reality is, this happens.
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former high level officials i know, a former president of the united states, a former director of the cia, who i've known for years, have told me they have found something in their homes afterwards. it can be an honest mistake. so, you know, to elliott's point, what was the intent? to -- you know, there does not seem to be obstruction here. they couldn't have been more cooperative. i am told that if there was not the mar-a-lago documents situation that the national archives might very well not have referred this to the justice department. but they felt they had to simply because of what was going on with donald trump. >> so, elie, how long does an investigation like this go on for? >> i think you need to move quickly here. i think in both instances. we're not that far away from the 2024 campaign coming into focus here. but i think we need quick answers. merrick garland, i've been
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critical. i'll remain critical. he's moved very slow. we're two years out from january 6th. we're more than a year out from the trump mar-a-lago documents sort of coming to the attention of the archives. we can't let this linger. i think we need clear answers. and i think that's why merrick garland has deputized in one case a special counsel and another case a trump appointed special attorney, a, to give himself a little bit of political cover, but, b, because we need people who are focused on getting us answers quickly. >> legal reasons and ethical reasons president biden wouldn't comment. but how long can the president not make some sort of comment about this? >> oh, i think he'll be pressed on this, and he'll have to -- he'll have to speak to it. i thought elie made a really good point earlier. you know, i think merrick garland prides himself on making decisions based on the law. and that's who he is. but you can't isolate yourself from the political environment. and should they move on trump, even though the circumstances
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appear to be much different, you know the reaction that it's going to ingender, that there are two standards here. so, whatever biden says, this changes the discussion, i think. and it probably changes the decision making in the justice department. >> yeah, i mean, elliott, how does it change the decision or complicate the special counsel's investigation of the former president? >> well, look, anderson, there two answers to that. someone ought to be charged with a crime if the facts in the law indicate that a conviction could be sustained in front of i jury, right? the justice department theoretically operates independent of politics. the simple fact is, we live in the real world, right? and in the real world, there are political implications to actions. and as everyone in this panel has said today, there's going to be political questions. you can already see jim jordan, the incoming chair of the house judiciary committee, salivating over the prospect of saying that donald trump was targeted and
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how political the process was. even setting aside the fact that the two scenarios, are just different based on the information that's available on the record right now. so, the simple fact is the justice department needs to be prepared to answer the political question, even if it doesn't or shouldn't play into the question of guilt or innocence. >> elliott williams, elie hoenig, david axelrod, thank you. a live reaction from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle and more on the impact it could have on the president. later a live report from brazil, after yesterday's attack on the government by supporters of its defeatedment. her stack of hats grew. she even served turkey l legs with what's on tap, all while wearing a viking hat.. then she found a placece. her many hats would be embraced, and she couldn't hide the excitement from her face. so, polly traded in her hats to help earn her grad cap!
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mar-a-lago. he side stepped that question saying it was the democrats who played their hands on that issue, given that now that these classified documents were found with president biden. now, he was also asked whether or not there should be any investigation into this manner, and he didn't say directly. he said, there's a difference between donald trump and joe biden. donald trump was only in political office for one term. joe biden was in for 40 years. others went further, suggesting there could be some sort of investigation. james comer, who's the chairman of the house oversight committee told me he plans to send a letter to the national archive to try to understand those documents that apparently may have been mishandled. i also talked to jim jordan. he would not say whether or not he plans to press ahead with any investigation. he did say, wouldn't it be nice if the country would have known there were classified documents before the midterm elections, since apparently these were discovered on november 2nd, anderson. >> what are democrats now
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saying? >> not every democrat is quick to rush to defend joe biden. adam schiff, who was the chairman of the house intelligence committee under the democratic control of congress told me that obviously if there are classified documents anywhere they shouldn't be, that's a problem and a deep concern. he went on to say, he wants to learn the facts of the situation. that's a similar thing jim hines, also a member of the house committee, he told me this. >> classified information needs to stay in secured spaces. we'll wait to see the facts. classified information needs to be in secured spaces. >> reporter: now, the house oversight committee's ranking member, jamie raskin, says the president appears to have taken immediate and proper action to notify the archives. he also have confidence the attorney general took the appropriate steps to make sure there was careful review. we're seeing some defense from the democrats about the president's actions. a lot of people learning about the situation, but it's not the
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last thing republicans will ask about it. >> thank you. perspective from chief political correspondent dana bash, cnn political commentator, scott jennings, also audi cornish, host of "the assignment" podcast. dana, from your sources, what are you hearing on capitol hill tonight? >> a lot of democrats keeping their patter dry, kind of like what you heard from congressman hines of connecticut, a member of the intelligence committee. not so much about the process that the biden white house, i guess it was, or his attorney, took in returning the documents. but the question of why they were there in the first place. because it is true that you're not supposed to take classified documents. and there could be a lot of explanations for it. but right now, the question is, why? and we don't know the answer. but that's one thing. but the real question right now
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is the political one, which i know you were talking about with the panel beforehand. and there's an old adage, if you're explaining, you're losing. i'm not so sure you can say that this applies. but it's pretty close right now when you're talking about something as heightened and as potentially toxic as this issue is because of what happened in mar-a-lago. they are not the same. but when it comes to politics, you can bet we're going to hear a lot of trying to conflate the two. >> audi, does it change the calculus for republicans looking to do oversight in the biden administration in congress? it obviously is another thing that they can point to. >> yeah, it's another number in the calculus. one of the things that happened in the negotiation for speakership for kevin mccarthy is the idea that the hardliners could have a subcommittee that would focus on the weaponization of the federal government. it's going to investigate a number of intelligence agencies. but it also has the irs on that list i. has the fbi on this
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list. if anything, i think it's going to coalesce around an idea that is kind of calcified within this part of the republican party, that the federal government has been weaponized against conservatives and republican politicians and any chance they have to, what they think, will expose that in some way. they're going to take. one thing i just want to add. it will be interesting to see if the media has learned anything from the situation with the justice department and hillary clinton's emails in terms of trying to kind of create, if not false equivalency, trying to compare things so much that you sort of confuse the audience about what's going on and why. it'll be interesting to see what lessons we have taken away from that period and how it will apply to this next couple of months. >> scott, how do you see this being handled by republicans in capitol hill? >> i think every republican in the capitol is feeling like the michael scott paper company sauntering back into dunder mifflin tonight. well, well, well, how the
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turntables. dana had it exactly right. the political usefulness for the republicans, as people attack donald trump about his issues. i get it and they're not the same. and yes, there will be conflation here. but the political usefulness of this cannot be underscored, cannot be overstated enough. i mean, to give republicans this talking point for the rest of their natural lives almost exonerates trump in terms of debates and what comes up. i mean, if this ever comes up and somebody brings it up, you're always going to have this retort. by the way, everybody in politics is laughing their rear end off tonight that this happened to joe biden given how strident his commentary was in attacking donald trump about this in the first place. so, yeah, it's a big deal politically. >> scott, i haven't seen you change-upper in quite a while. >> oh, i'm perfectly -- i'm perfectly happy for the justice department to investigate this and get to the bottom of both
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cases. i think classified material ought to be taken care of. and i think people who have been all over donald trump about this ought to have the wherewithal to be all over joe biden about it too. >> one thing to keep in mind though is the former president is in trouble for claiming that he turned in documents, that he did not, ignoring subpoenas. some of his lawyers are accused of saying that they signed off on certifying that they had documents, that they didn't, or had documents and it turned out there were more documents. so, some of this is about how you react to something. do you react with obstruction? do you react by stiff arming federal agencies? that's something that i think has to be a part of this conversation because it's not just about where are random boxes. >> but dana, to scott's point, in a debate, those details are easy to brush over. and the headline is, it's the same thing, look, this guy did it too. >> they are easy to brush over.
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and that's where i go back to the potential pitfall for joe biden if you're explaining you're losing. however, it really doesn't -- and we'll see where this goes, and we'll see where the mar-a-lago investigation goes. now, both are before the department of justice. it is very, very different. and if joe biden is able to explain it in a cogent way, if he gets to that point, if they're on a debate stage, then it should be a no brainer for people to understand the difference because of what audi said, which is what i was going to mention. it's just not the same when it comes to obstruction, which seems to be the bigger issue here. people -- they're not supposed to take classified documents. sometimes it happens by accident. but the question is when you are told about it or when you learn about it, how do you feel with it? and these two, president and former president, dealt with it
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in very, very different ways in these two situations. >> we've already seen the former president responding to this on social media, asking when the fbi will perhaps raid the white house. i mean, obviously he's going to make this an issue as much as he can. >> yeah. and another question republicans are going to ask about this is, this was discovered, i think, the day before the election. we're just now finding out about it after the election a couple months later. why? i mean, if i were jamie comer, the congressman who runs the oversight committee, that would be one of the first questions i would have is, why is it when something happens to joe biden, it's able to hold inside these agencies for a couple of months. when something happens to donald trump, we know about it within five minutes? that's getting to the core of what republicans are asking. why are the things that happen to trump or any other republican weaponized instantly and anything the democrats do, magically, time passes. i think it's a fair question and one you're going to hear trump and his allies and republicans
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in congress ask. >> isn't it more noticeable when your resort is raided by the fbi as opposed to when the national archives actually calls up -- >> or when you ignore a subpoena by months. that's many, many months. >> of course. if i were in donald trump's position, and i'm not and you know where i stand on his nomination for '24. if i were in his position, i would say, yeah, it is more noticeable when my house is raided. why wasn't it noticed that these documents were sitting in boxes in joe biden's office? why doesn't anybody know about that? every time somebody has a retort on this, there is a political answer for it that's pretty easy. and most people aren't going to be into the weeds on this thing. they're going to say, he has a point. >> scott jennings, dana bash, audi cornish, appreciate it. up next, the latest on the supporters who attacks the supreme court and presidential palace all in the same day. ahead.
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violent attack on congress, supporters in brazil stormed the supreme court, and presidential palace. the losing candidate jair bolsonaro says he's currently hospitalized in florida. the newly elected brazilian legislator called for his extradition. >> reporter: a stunning attack on brazil's seat of power, as thousands of supporters of former for right president jair bolsonaro broke through security cordons in brazil, roaming congress, destroying invaluable works of art, simply running riot through brazil's halls of power. it seems eerily similar to the insurrection in the u.s. capitol two years ago. one week earlier, the scenes were of democratic triumph, as
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bolsonaro's left wing rival, luis da silva. bolsonaro never explicitly conceded, and underneath did his most ardent followers. >> this, this is my hero. i'm at his home, our home, a bolsonaro supporter says from inside the presidential palace. protesters dressed in the colors of the brazilian flag, now a symbol of bolsonaro's far right movement. unfailed banners from the congressional building rooftop, demanding the result of brazil's most fraught election in a generation be overturned. security forces used tear gas and stun grenades to regain control of the congressional building, the supreme court, and presidential palace. but by the time they did, the damage had already been done. the president's chief of communications showed
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destruction inside his own office. >> translator: it's unbelievable what was done in the palace. look at the state of rooms, equipment, computers. look at this. >> reporter: world leaders condemned the attack as an assault on democracy. brazil's new president pinned the blame on his predecessor, accusing him of riots through social media from florida. he promised no stone will be left unturned, vowing to find those responsible. >> translator: we will find out the final seers and they will pay with the force of the law for the irresponsible gesture, this antidemocratic gesture of vandals and fascists. >> reporter: bolsonaro denounced the actions from the u.s. the former president already facing at least four supreme court investigations. the latest scenes will only add to further calls at home into bolsonaro's influence on his base.
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a conservative fire brand politician who, for years, has been taking cues from the trump playbook, pushing election fraud conspiracies and casting doubt on the integrity of the electoral system. >> and issa suarez joins us from brasilia, brazil's capital. what happens to bolsonaro now? >> reporter: that is a big question. what i've been hearing behind closed doors is perhaps we'll be looking at further investigations. it's something of course that we've been hearing from several senators. but speaking -- hearing from the justice today, i don't think we're there yet. he said that basically bolsonaro bears political responsibility for what unfolded here in the three branches of power in brasilia. but he said he has no legal grounds as of yet to investigate him. so, it's very critical right now. what he did lay out very clearly, you heard in that piece, very much that the
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rhetoric that we've been hearing from bolsonaro for years, denying elections, throwing into doubt the electoral system in brazil, questioning the supreme court. he said that was very much part of what fuelled and what stoked the protests here on sunday. and i think there's something that he said that will resonate with those in the u.s., given everything that happened the last two years in the insurrection. i'm just going to read it out. he said, words have power, and these words turned into hate, which turned into destruction. it is a political responsibility with the aim, he said, of a coup d'etat. we start hearing calls in brazil from of course members of congress asking for bolsonaro to be extradited. but as you know, the u.s. state department has not received any official extradition requests. thank you. a mother of three has been missing since new year's day.
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anna walsh has been missing for eight days. investigators are looking for her remains, digging through trash at a transfer station north of boston. investigators revealed a bloody knife was found in the basement of the walsh home. her husband has not been named a suspect, but he has been questioned in connection with the case. randi kaye has details. >> it's not normal that she's missing. so, we automatically feel that she's in danger by the mere fact that she's missing. >> reporter: 39-year-old anna walsh hasn't been seen since new year's day. that's when police say a family told them she left for boston's logan airport, bound for d.c. >> the cell phone has been off since the first of the year. detectives are working the electronic forensics, debit cards, credit cards. none of these things have been active since the first of the year. >> her husband and her employer
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reported her missing on wednesday, january 4th. there is no record of her on a flight to d.c. searches of the woods and surrounding areas near her home turned up nothing. >> she would not by her own choice go a day without speaking to her husband or children. that's very out of character. >> days after her disappearance, a bizarre twist. police say her husband, who they thought had been cooperate, misled investigators. two law enforcement sources briefed on the investigation tells john miller that brian walsh did internet searches on how to dispose of a body and dismember a body. that knowledge led police to get a search warrant for the home, which culminated in brian walsh's arrest yesterday. at his arraignment in court this morning, he pleaded not guilty, but prosecutored shares disturbing details about
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evidence they say police found during the search of the couple's home. >> during that time, blood was found in the basement area as well as the knife, which also contains blood. >> prosecutors also listed cleaning supplies brian walsh allegedly bought in the hours after his wife's disappearance. >> he's on surveillance at that time purchasing about $450 worth of cleaning supplies. that would include mops, bucket, tops, drop cloths, as well as various kind of tape. >> reporter: according to court documents, brian walsh had said he was running errands for his mother on the afternoon of january 1st. but court documents obtained by cnn show on january 7th, investigators reviewed surveillance video from the two stores he said he visited for his mom. police say they did not see him on the video and found no evidence he went to those stores. >> brian, what do you want the public to know about this case?
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>> reporter: his whereabouts that day are important, given that's the day his wife disappeared. court documents show investigators later discovered surveillance video of him at a home depot in rockland, massachusetts, wearing a black surgical mask, blue surgical gloves, and making a cash purchase. court records show investigators believe brian walsh tried to mislead investigators and purposely gave them false information so they would travel far away in an attempt to corroborate his story. randi kaye, cnn. >> cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, john miller, has been getting a lot of this intelligence for us. he joins us now. some of the details you first reported, he was googling how to dispose of 115-pound woman's body? >> yeah, and i mean, you would think that that's pretty poor trade craft, if you're planning to cover up a crime. but i would also say, having been involved in actually very
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similar investigations, when people think they erase their search history or they delete things, there are forensic ways to find things that people think are long gone. so, it's not clear if efforts were taken to cover electronic tracks or not. but what we do know is from the court filings is allegedly he is not where he said he was when they went back through those places and reviewed the video. he is where he never said he was, buying cleaning supplies to the tune of $450 and drop cloths that you would use to spread out to, you know -- >> it doesn't look good. >> it's not a good look for somebody who is the person reporting somebody missing after -- >> so, when someone gets -- he's charged with misleading investigators. obviously they clearly are looking into more. is the reason to charge somebody initially with that just to get them in custody so they're not trying to run away or do
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something else? >> that's right. that's a holding charge. it's something that actually has a potential 10-year sentence. so, it's a serious charge in massachusetts because they understand it's about influencing the cover-up of a crime. but you have a layer of stories here. here's an individual who is curr currently, the husband, awaiting sentence in an art fraud, involving, you know, andy warhol paintings and others that were sold fraudulently. they turned out to be copies. he pled guilty. the complaint outlines that his wife, you know, was aware of things going on there. if he were to be released on the misleading police charge, the u.s. marshals would probably come in and violate his probation, awaiting sentence, because you're not supposed to get arrested. but the real bull's eye here, anderson, is what's happening up at that peabody, massachusetts, transfer station where they have mapped out the grid of where his trash went, where the trash
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where they put the crime scene tape around the place where his mom lives and that trash went, and isolated the dates. they've targeted those spots. and they're going to be looking there. so, we could have developments over the next couple of days. >> john miller, really incredible details. thank you so much. bills safety damar hamlin back in buffalo, getting treatment at a hospital. the latest did good news on his health next. united healthcare medicare advantage. ♪wow, uh-huh♪ now she's got a whwhole team to help her get the most out ofof her plan. ♪wow, uh-huh♪ with coverage that's better than ever r for dental... ...vision... ...prescription drugs and more. advantage: me! can't wait 'til i turn 65! aarp medicare advantage plans, only from unitedhealthcare. take advantage now at uhc.com/medicare hi, i'm jill and i've lost 56 pounds on golo. hi, i'm barry and i've lost 42 pounds. jill and i are a team. i usually jump on board. to do something,
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after last night's game. >> it was in the opening kick back, he is going up and down from the chair. i think a set of every alarm in the icu in the process. he was fine, it's just an appropriate reaction to very excited play. >> what do you make of his progress? >> -- >> a lot of people deal sudden cardiac arrest. there's not a lot of daytona 24 your professional athlete i go through something like this. if you look at data and hospitalization cardiac arrest, i mean the numbers are gonna be very different. he had cardiac arrest outside the hospital. essentially, it was like being in the hospital for him because he had such quick care. within seconds, as you remember anderson there able to restore his heart rhythm on the field and so it's pretty fast. but also the fact that he was in critical condition, still in
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