classified documents from joe biden's team as vice president found at his private office in washington, dc that he used after vice president and before he became president of the united states, fewer than a dozen documents were found by biden's own attorneys a couple months ago they turned them over to the national archives with referred to the justice department and now attorney general merit garland is asking a trump appointed u.s. attorney to investigate, that's the brought outline. let's bring in senior white house correspondant traveling with the president in new york city and evan perez let's get more details on this story, what you're hearing from your sources tonight >> john, what we know is that these documents we don't know what is in the documents but we know that they were classified at the level of tfsci, sensitive

compartment, which is close government secrets the reason this is reviewed by prosecutors at the justice department by the u.s. attorney in chicago john lou, and the fbi, they do damage assessment to see whether in six years these documents were held in a location that is not secure, whether there's any damage that's been done to national security. of course, this, the white house said that the white house is cooperating with this review being done by the national archives and the justice department, and they say this is obviously something that even the former president -- even the president was not aware of until these documents were found by his legal team as they were trying to shut down this think tank office he set up as he left office in 2017. >> the fact that the documents

are there is news and notable and also, insofar as we know details of the story so far, somewhat different context wally than the case of the documents at mar-a-lago, the documents subpoenaed twice and then there was a search warrant for them, talk to us how these cases differ insofar as we know at this point. >> there's a major distinctions, let's start with the number of document, according to the white house, we're talking the biden documents we're talking about fewer than a dozen documents in the case of former president trump, right now, the fbi and the justice department says they found at least 300 documents that were recovered from mar-a-lago. in the case of joe biden's legal team, they say that they found these documents and immediately turned them over to the national archives, of course, we know john, that it took months of wrangling between the archives and fbi and the justice department to try to get trump to turn over the government

documents that he had kept, and of course, even after they said that they had turned over everything, we know that the fbi says that they obtained information that documents were being moved from a room they were supposed to be kept and that's prompted the extraordinary circumstance that you saw that raid, that search that happened at mar-a-lago back in august, and of course, that prompted, of course, an obstruction of justice investigation, which is still ongoing, it's being handled by a special council, no indication in the case of biden documents no indication there's anything beyond this review investigation being done by the fbi and u.s. attorney there in chicago, john >> and our senior white house correspondent in mexico city with president biden first of all it's great to see you mj , what is the administration saying so far about all of this? >> well, john, here in mexico city, the news of these classified documents ended up

coinciding with president biden's bilateral meeting with his meeks counterpart behind me at the palace and right behind me we saw the president not at all engage reporters in the room who tried to ask him about these developments take a look. >> the documents, sir? >> and you know, senior official who is traveling here with the president told me earlier this evening he is staying focused on the summit that none of this affects his trip, as far as this official is concerned, this is not an issue that come up between the president and his advisors while he has been here, but of course, the reality is that this is an issue going to be waiting for the president as soon as he returns home that is tomorrow and i think it's important to note, you know, if you look to at the statement that we got from the special council's office sort of laying out what

they know and sort of the timeline, they were clear to point out that one, they immediately informed the archives as soon as they were found and two they're cooperating both with the archives and doj. all of this, of course, is trying to serve the purpose of the white house trying to show that there's no sort of effort to interfere with anything that the doj might be doing. >> you know president biden just wrapped up a meeting with the mexican president, this is his first, follows by the way his first visit to the border as president, what was he hoping to accomplish >> really significant trip particularly if you remember fact that this is at first time that a u.s. president is visiting mexico since 2014 that would have been obama there was so much attention in the relations of course during trump years but there has been plenty

of moments of forensic shun under president biden of watch as well we know that immigration has been probably the biggest issue looming over the visit i think the visit clearly came over a moment when it was clear that president biden really is wanting to depend on and lean on cooperation really from partners like mexico as he tries to deal with this issue of the record number of migrants trying to come no u.s. across the u.s. border the announcement last week on essentially expanding title 42, that included an important agreement from the mexico side. so we obviously know that this was a topic of discussion tonight when the two leaders met and it's also going to continue when there are meetings happening involving the canadian prime minister as well, so immigration is a top issue but also just more broadly speaking issues of trade and other areas of economic cooperation as well, john. >> no doubt the president will face a lot of questions on all of this and the documents

tomorrow during these. mj in mexico city and president in work, back to both of you, joining me senior analyst, and ceo of all in together. i want to start with the documents, elly. and again, the investigation will determine how they got there. who put them there. who knew they were there, whether joe biden knew they were there or not and that may determine whether this is something at all or worth further investigation but, and but, for merrick garland, how does this change his life? >> big winner here is donald trump, let's be clear, it's a wind fall for donald trump yet again, here's why, if we were to take all relevant factors that a prosecutor would be looking at and list them in a checklist, number of document, level of classification, were they cooperative, some would be bad for joe biden, some would be neutral, more would be worse for donald trump safe to say based on what we know now, let's

remember who makes the decision, yes, we have this u.s. attorney from illinois doing the investigation on one hand special council doing the other elevation, ultimately merrick garland makes the ultimate decision, now, is merrick garland, the famously cautious, famously allergic to politics, going to end up in a situation where he gives the current president his current boss a pass but he in diets not just the former president but the guy running against his own boss now, i don't know merrick garland but what i'd know that's difficult to say >> what you just heard was the sound of a lot of people, mostly democrats throwing things at their tv right now, saying he's playing what aboutism now, what donald trump did the limited amounts we know in both cases is very, very different, he was subpoenaed several times he turned it over. he obstructed did this and that allegedly. how can you say that this is now the case that merrick garland would treat them similarly.

>> it's not what aboutism. it's real worldism. merrick garland, the idea of prosecutor, which in many ways merrick garland is would not take into account anything other than the documents on his desk the hard legal analysis but that's not we live in reality and waft think about merrick garland certainly thinks about how will this look and received, how is this going to impact the way people regard the justice department? i guarantee you he's thinking about that >> also beyond a reasonable doubt issues if he presses charges. the political side of this, republicans, some are saying, ok, you know, this is now a thing. we're going to look into this, don't they then, those same republicans have an issue if they were silent about donald trump or wouldn't they also have to say if biden does it and it was bad, it's bad when trump did it do. >> we're talking about something

hip production increase, it's something they're not that interested in or bothered by and finding this majority which i think i do i have no doubt they will make a lot of this, let me be real fair here, this might be very bad, classified documents should be handled very, very carefully i don't care if you have an r extra name or d extra name, this could be bad. it could be a mistake, that happens, it could be someone did something stupid, we don't know yet. we need to know more. but one thing we do know is the ways in which these two gentlemen handled these classified documents in the wake of revelations that they were not where they needed to be, and if the classified documents system is basically an honor system, we trust that you'll keep them where they need to be and not take them to your home or office, one man has acted honorably. and one man has not acted honorably. one man has said look, i found these things that you didn't

even know i had and i want you to now do what's right with them and another man made people run around in circles looking for them and insisted he didn't have them. those are the facts that we have now, and we need to know more, we should take a skeptical eye, just as skeptical eye as we did to the documents trump took. >> politically biden is about to come back to a very different work than he left before he went to mexico i mean, the reality is that the first time in his presidency he's facing the opposing party in a leadership role in the house, and part of their obligation is investigations and they're clearly going to take that seriously. we had over the weekend members of the republican caucus say they were already planning to impeach biden on what grounds, we don't know but it's clearly high on their list. and this is absolutely red meat. they will spend the next two years screaming about this in the same way that hilary's e-mails, despite various other

points and other people in the trump administration who handled e-mails in a similar manner it doesn't matter, because it plays to the bays it plays to this what aboutism which is part of what made the politics of this republican conference work. we do this again and again. >> but so far you got boxes like jim heinz democrat who said yeah, we should look at this, not doing the republican which was there's nothing to see here trump is perfect and this is all political. >> the republican tactic i think we saw an interesting example earlier tonight, we have a republican congressman with erin burnett, yes, there do appear to be differences then he did said what's good for the goose is good for the gander, a human response, one of the reasons we wanted you to come in if you think it's somehow connected let me know, cnn got a report that joe biden is perhaps moving ever closer to announcing that he is going to run for reelection, normally for an incumbent president this would be a nonnews story, but joe biden it is more of an issue of because of his age and answered

questions about running against somewhat differently than other presidents in the past. what do you make of the win he may think he has at his back after the mid-terms and where he is >> he does think he has wind at his back, he had a pretty extraordinarily last two years legislatively, more accomplishments than i think anyone would have expected with such a narrow marginn the senate. particularly and few incumbent presidents don't see themselves running for a second term, last time we had an incumbent not run again with linden johnson and he made commitments to the country were more important than politics, i don't think there's any time, i don't think there's any world in which joe biden doesn't run again, and even in this, the context of this noise, which is how he's going to see it he's mostly been teflon the last years everything republicans try to throw against him have not stuck we saw

evidence of that in the mid-terms. democrats came close, 6,750 votes from having held on to the majority, republicans won three million more votes in the mid-terms overall with just 6,000 more votes, would have actually gotten them five more seats, some of those races were that close, he locks at the maps, look at states like michigan, et cetera that have governor blue than they were in 2020 and he would be crazy not to one and one of the reasons pelosi stepping down, there's a big bench democrats want a new generation, if he's doing it again he'll have to make big investment into the next generation in his party. >> thank you all. the atlanta area special grand jury investigating whether former president trump and his allies violated the law in efforts to overturn the 2020 election has completed its work, what legal risks could there be now for put the former president and his inner circle? ♪. ♪. ♪. u won't take a time-out one dose of ubrelvy works fast

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. will former president trump face criminal charges for trying to overturn the 2020 special -- 2020 election, will he do so in georgia? the special grand jury in georgia is done. a judge has the final report detailing an almost 11-month investigation that began after this call became public. >> so look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than would have, because we won the state. >> the georgia grand jury heard from dozens of witnesses that includes some key players who never appeared before the house select committee investigating january 6 folks including trump former chief of staff mark meadows, lindsey graham and former congressman j oh, di

heist we won't know unless or until the judge decides to release the grand jury report a hearing for that isn't for another two weeks, with me cnn political commentator se cup back for more back for more and herndon back for more, elly, legally what's happening in georgia? >> so this is a two-step process and we're now done with stage one, which is the special grand jury, which has been hearing this case, investigating this case since may. now, there's this report, and the first question is there we see this report? the judge will have this hearing on it i'm sure that media organizations will say yes, you should release it to the public, it will be really interesting to see what the da takes as a position. if she's a serious prosecutor and i believe she is, she has to fight against releasing this, it's an ongoing vwhy tip your play book to the other team and you have to be respectful of the rights of the accused and possibly being investigated, either way, it will then be his

decision, do i want to now pursue an actual indictment in which case she will go in front of a regular grand jury and if she wants to get an indictment i'm quite sure she will because virtually any prosecutor can indict virtually anybody on virtually anything. >> you broke georgia law. georgia law is what she will say. >> yes. she can only indict for violations of georgia state law. >> steady herndon, if she does say you, former president trump broke georgia state law, i'm pressing charges. describe to me the scene we will be living through. >> my, it's hard to fathom. i was thinking about this today, if 2023 what could feel like a static political year, we don't have elections what is the earth shattering events in politics that could happen this year, this the question about the donald trump indictment, i don't think we can say the traditional scandal rules would apply, we have seen stick with him through

every activity and turn even through the losses. it would feel the republican party is in this moment they're looking for in any type of excuse, a lot of members to cast trump at least a foot away. you would think, that if this were to come down, it would be that kind of final straw a lot of folks need, the problem is for the voters, they may not think the same way >> you're so right in the real world. >> in the real world. >> but you have to think with everything trump is the upsidedown so i think if he did get indicted, that's a big if, by the way, i think that might jump start what has been a lack luster start to a presidential campaign. >> it's a held of a kickoff. >> in normal world it would be perilless but in the upsidedown his voters see him as victim, this is proof of the deep state that he promised and all the factors that are rigged against him, and actually, my infuse

this campaign with energy. >> if you think back to august 8 last year the day mar-a-lago was searched that was the best day we've had politically. >> i was with all last year, i was with you all last year in the indictment and helping had my politically certainly the fund raised a lot off of mar-a-lago. after the mid-terms, there has been a quantifiable and qualified kind of not move away from donald trump but a feeling he's just not moving the party forward, i don't think this will be -- i don't think we'll ever see a republican party that cast him that talks about him in had the language that democrats talk about him but would an indictment create an opening four republicans at a minimum? i do think it would loosen some stuff. >> big difference to all of these questions, dan, to years ago was ron desantis. we now exist in a world republicans where ron desantis there and there's an option for some people if they want to choose someone other than donald trump, what does merrick garland think of this >> if i'm merrick garland i'm

begging, praying that the da diets donald trump because it's a pressure release valve. all the people who were on merrick garland, where are you? where is merrick garland? sleeping taking too long, all of a sudden of that political pressure gets diverted he's at least charged. >> for all the time i said to you he is above the law, show me where trump has been held accountable for one thing ever, this that is what merrick garland probably hears every single day from folks like us and also folks inside his own orbit so this would be some, as you say a pressure relief. >> you made a really good point in the beginning, if there is an indictment, oh huge if, reaction will be through the roof both ways, you'll see unfettered joy from people who believe donald trump evaded the law too long and you're going to see fury, real anger from the other side, it's so important to keep in mind i've said this 1,000 times

i'll say it again an indictment is the start of case, it's not the end. table can say turn. >> there will be fury if not an indictment, this is situation either way this goes it is both unfathomable see it play out and we've to get end this car to not go through, that big reaction. >> it's 20 for merrick garland in terms of the federal cases we keep bringing up ron desantis, at what point does a desantis do something more than just stay silent on a subject like this? at what point does he decide to put a little body english into it and say, by the way, there's a lot of investigations into this guy >> the day he decides i'm going to run for president is the day he should probably decide to take off the governor, no punt intended you saw that >> i got it of the. >> you know, i think he's been keeping his powder dry and waiting to see if trump really goes down, remains kind of

relevant, new pull-out from cbs says 60 soming is 60 percent of republicans believe we as a party should be loyal to trump i think he's reading all of that and wondering ok, if it's my time to take this man on, then and only then will it make any sense for me to criticize him because i will need his voters. >> great to see you all tonight thanks so much. so, seems like we're now intimately aware of prince harry's feelings about the royal family due to the extensive media blitz due to his book being published. i don't think it's out yet, we know everything in it is there a chance he will regret being so open? next, thoughts of patty davis, daughter of former president ronald reagan. ♪. ♪.

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. did you know that prince harry has a new book coming out? bet you did he's been talking a lot about it including with anderson cooper on 60 minutes saying that ka met la parker bowls leaked stories. >> with her on her way to become queen consort there would be bodies left in the street because of that >> the prince speaking multiple outlets on both sides of the atlantic he still has love for the royal family. >> but what people don't know is the efforts that i've gone to resolve this privately. both with my brother and my father.

>> he said tried to make things right with them. >> i love my father, i love my brother, i love my family. >> harry and meghan may be the only people in this country who know what it's like to have your family drama come with the baggage of being royal, but my next guest has some idea. patty davis was in her 20's when her father, ronald reagan was first elected president and a new opt ed in the new york times she regrets the tell all she wrote about her family. book she's happy she wrote is her new one floating in the deep end and patty davis joins me, i am so happy to see you. the opt ed that you read over the weekend it really made me stop and think honestly. in the gist of it is if you had a chance to speak to harry you would tell him you're going to regret this book. why? . >> well, to be clear, i don't know that he would listen to me

or to anybody else. at the time that i wrote my auto biography we're not going to say the title of because i've written many books since, but at that time anything short of jesus himself coming back and saying don't do this or budah, or some other master, i wouldn't have listened to somebody, it's like you're on this emotional river, right, that's your experience, and your, as he calls his his truth, and you can't see anything else, you're not really thinking logically, because i think for most people listening to what harry says about i love my parents, my family, i want to a reconciliation you don't put this book out where i call my father a villain and making accusations many people will go

there's no logic here, when you're in that emotional rush of your own situation and your own experience and your own kind of victimation really , you're not thinking logically, you're not taking a step back and looking at the whole picture. that takes some distance, that takes some reflection, that takes some silence hence the title of my opt ed, so i don't think, even if i had met him and tried to say something, i don't think he would have listened. >> let's put it this way, what if he's right? what if everything he says is right and true in this book? >> i would still say the same thing. because it's only a narrow part of the story, you know, like i said in that opt ed is truth is bigger than just your own truth, there's a bigger story there. i think he had -- he would have had a really interesting story to tell as he had talked to his

father, talked to william and i don't know if they would have talked to him but i'm sorry, someone else is joining our interview here, she does that, sorry about that -- you know, there's a bigger story here of the history of the monarchy, and you know what? why is charles the father that he was? who couldn't embrace his son after diana died? how was he parented by his father? by phillip? there's always a larger story, but again, you have to take a step back, the doesn't really matter if you're right in what you're saying, there's more to say that just your on perspective. but that takes -- like i said, it takes some stepping back and distance, it's kind of like you don't go into a museum or art gallery and stand six inches from a painting to experience it. you stand back from it, well the same is true about life. >> so he's writing about a

family, it's his family, but it's not just any family in this case. it's the royal family, these people are going to be you know, sovereign, his father is now king, he's head of state. does harry as a british citizen have an obligation, could he argue? could he argue i have an obligation to reveal these people to the world they're in these positions of power? >> well, who asked him to do that. where do you take on that obligation? that's sort of like you know, i have this reaction whenever i hear people say, i want to set the record straight. i have this sort of knee-jerk reaction, who asked you to? there's something aggressive about that, it's like you're wrong i'm right i'm going to set this straight. who asked you to? how about looking at the whole

picture. and there's a lot of really significant things that he can say, but i think it has -- it would have been better if it -- if he had taken some time and looked at it from a broader perspective. frankly it would have been a more interesting story. like i said i'd be very interested in how do william process all of this? how did charles process this generationally he was raised the same way but that was a different generation. the monarchy will have to update itself a little bit and not be so stiff upper lip and we don't talk about things, charles would have a perspective on that i think. >> you're opt ed begins with you describing i guess in a way it's fair to say you apologized to your father for the book. >> i did.

>> do you think that harry owes his father and his brother an apology? >> i would suggest that would be a good idea. yeah. because you know, it's again, we get back to the logic or lack of, you know, i mean, he's saying i tried my best privately to whatever, you know, bridge these differences or gaps or whatever, and it didn't work out the way i wanted, so i decided to just tell the world everything. it doesn't really track but if you're in a completely emotional state and only looking at your own experience, your own story, it makes sense to you. it made sense to me to just tell everything to the world. then it took some distance to realize that didn't make a lot of sense.

>> patty davis it's great speaking with you, and your cat, the opt ed made me think it's not often i read something like that over the weekend i stopped for a minute and process it. i appreciate the work you've done it's terrific talking to you, thank you. >> thank you so much. could the parents of a 6-year-old boy who allegedly brought a gun to school and shot his teacher, could the parents face charges themselves? the latest on this case just ahead. ♪. ♪. ♪. good thing gertrude found delsym. now what's going around is 12-hour cough relief. and the giggles. the family that takes delsym together, feels better together.

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police in newport news, virginia, say a gun a six your boy allegedly used to shoot his teacher in school last week was legally purchased by the child's mother. >> we determined that the firearm was in the residence where they lived, and the child had obtained that firearm placed it in his backpack and brought it to school. >> police say they are still investigating whether the parents of the 6-year-old will be charged with something, the child is under a temporary detention order, the teacher was shot in the chest through her hand, she is listed in stable condition, with me is john miller law enforcement and intelligence. john, there's a 6-year-old who shot someone appears to have shot someone here, this is a complicated tragic case. >> so for police, it's really not a classic criminal matter that you would have if anybody else had shot somebody.

when you have a 6-year-old, this isn't somebody to bring to trial, not somebody who can assist in their defense or understand the process. so in the virginia system, you've got the juvenile delinquent who commits a crime, you got a child in need of supervision, who can't be handled by their parents, you have a child in need of services. this is one of those things where police and the social services agencies are going to have to get into the home, access the family, figure out questions like was there a degree of negligence that a gun was somewhere a child had access to it? that also can be complicated there's no law in virginia regulating the storage of firearms in the home even with children, so we know from prior studies that have been done you think you have a hiding place no one knows about the and if there's a kid in the house they will find it. >> legally speaking, what charges could the parents face >> obviously ultimate nightmare

sincere for all involved. the child will not be charged for the reasons john said, with respect to the parents, some states new york and new jersey being two examples have specific laws about the way you must store a gun, must be locked up. sometimes must be unloaded that kind of thing, virginia does not have those laws, however, virginia, like virtually every state does have injure child endangerment laws, i was involve in tangentially in a case in new jersey horrible case where a 4-year-old found his father's loaded rifle under abide and accidentally shot and killed a 6-year-old, that father was prosecuted under a very similar child endangerment law, pled guilty and was sentenced to three years. so it will depend on the specifics of how the gun was stored. definitionally if a 6-year-old is get ahold of a gun and out of a house wasn't that stored incorrectly. >> you would think so, right, if it was locked up safe and secure, i think definitionally a 6-year-old would not be able to. >> what i mean we're dividing is

a question of moral and responsibility versus legal kulp ability but i think elliot is right we've had cases in new york city where 99% of guns you'll find in a residential home in new york city will be legal weapons, there's a, in 8.6 million here, in virginia it's the opposite. almost impossible to have an illegal gun unless possessed by an illegal felon or some other prohibited class but i think the direction they will go is what services are needed for the family, for the child, then legally, where is the line between that endangering welfare of a minor by having a weapon that has been seeing as accessible as the child? where is that line, that will be hard in place like virginia. >> what happens to the 6-year-old. >> he's -- i mean, police department said he's in custody, which means they've taken him away from the family and put him with social services for the

time being. it's all going to depend on what is that assessment that both the police and the social services agency do at the home to see what are the conditions there? what is the parenting? they will assess this kid's entire world before they decide a direct to take. >> what aspect of this case is the reporting is that it was an intentional act. that's rare in these cases. that's the language is different than something i've heard before. the police sort of said this was not an accident and most of these case, they're all horrible but usually it's an accidental discharge or they were playing with the gun bus this sounds like -- the reporting what the police said there was some sort of disagreement or something between the student and the teacher. so that makes it different to me. >> that's a whole other question about the world we live in, which is if you're six years old, and you know, what you're seeing in the computer games are point of view active shooter games call of duty, you name it, what you're seeing on the tv is

the hero comes out with the pistol and shoots everybody and that's how problems are solved in the entertainment world. that's a very impressionible mind and when the object of that is right there in the home, you can see where the line between what's fantasy, what'sral, and what are real consequences will be blurred in mind of a 6-year-old. >> thanks so much next a powerful storm bringing torrential rain and flooding to central california we'll check in with the weather center to see where the storm is headed next. ♪. ♪. ♪. go into protect mode. nothing kills more viruses on more surfaces than lysol disinfectant spray. ♪

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across central california, roadways under water there, a swollen creek in santa cruise at san jose washed out a local bridge, we have more dramatic pictures these are from monte ceto ellen degeneres post this to twitter >> this next to the house ever flows, ever. probably about nine feet up and going -- (inaudible) evacuate. mother nature. >> probably shouldn't be standing that close, rescue workers pulled people to safety from the rising waters up and down the california coast. derek joins us from the weather center, what's ahead. >> it's feast or famon for california, one hand fire and switch of a switch, floods and landslides shall that's what

we're uncovering and, active and ongoing now north to south and some of the things we've seen in venturea, we've seen cars submerged there's a ground stop for some flights coming out of lax, there's been mud slides, less than slides, even the mandatory evaluations in santa barbara, here's a look at the radar, you can see how extensive this storm system is let's focus into los angeles which, by the way has a flash flood warning until 12:00 a.m. local time, for the county of los angeles including downtown, some of the radar estimates just outside of los angeles into venturea and mountains now regions, ten inches of rain, with this initial round of atmospheric moisture spread in more rain but there's back side, we'll start to reign that rainfall overnight and focus attention on this next storm system which will bring another oscillating round of

strong rain and heavy precipitation from north to south once again overnight and into the day on tuesday, we can't rule out the possibility of water spouts and tornados with some of these thunderstorms that will move on shore with this next round of storms. as high wind warnings and feet measured are -- snow measured in feet for the mountain overpasses >> not used to seeing pictures like this from these locations, thanking so much >> and thanks to you for watching, our coverage continues. ♪ ♪. ♪. ♪. . for people with skin.

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